BREAKING NEWS: New 9/11 Murder? Was John P. (Jack) Wheeler III About to Blow a Whistle? | |
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| Oiled in Florida User ID: 1007476 01/05/2011 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wheeler got the same "suicided" treatment as Matt Simmons. They both knew too much. Last Edited by Oiled In Florida on 01/05/2011 07:03 PM |
| Josey Wales (OP) User ID: 1038822 01/05/2011 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is extremely relevant, as this is the type of person who you would never expect to end up in a landfill. He was murdered, for what reasons remain unclear. But this is an extremely high profile Department of Homeland Security type of guy. He worked for Mitre Corp. Warren Buffet owns Mitre. Mitre Corporation has "super user" status with a host of government agencies, which means it has global control and oversight of such computer networks such as; NORAD FAA The Pentagon Network And countless others; His murder is something everyone needs to look into, if for nothing else then the ultra high profile nature of this particular murder. Full story and research articles here: [link to letsrollforums.com] Other 9/11 Links: [link to letsrollforums.com] Josey Wales --- |
| Josey Wales (OP) User ID: 1038822 01/05/2011 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent article. This guy was high on the totem poll! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1155369Individuals at this level don't end up in garbage cans unless a point is being made... Exactly! Anyone who thinks this murder isn't highly significant it blind or stupid. Josey Wales -- Last Edited by Josey Wales on 01/05/2011 07:53 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 919411 01/05/2011 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Video Released In Murder Mystery Of Delaware War Vet" WILMINGTON, Del. (CBS) – Eyewitness News has obtained exclusive surveillance video of a former presidential aide that was taken two days before his body was found dumped in a Delaware landfill. The body of John Wheeler III was found in the Cherry Island landfill in Wilmington on New Year’s Eve. The video shows a man that appears to be Wheeler entering the lobby of a parking garage at 5th and King Streets in Wilmington on December 29. An employee of the parking garage said Wheeler look disheveled and said he was looking for his car. The employee also said his right shoe, which appeared to be broken, was in his right hand. “From the way his shoe looked, I would say that it looked like somebody done something to him,” the worker told Eyewitness News. The video then shows the man getting on an elevator and walking around for 20 minutes. After that, he talked to a supervisor before he was escorted out the pedestrian door. Investigators said Wheeler was last seen at 10th and Orange Streets in Wilmington around 3:30 p.m. on December 30. A day later, police were called after Wheeler’s body was dumped out of a garbage truck into the Cherry Island landfill. Investigators said Wheeler’s car was found in its normal parking location in a garage across from the Wilmington train station. more at link... [link to philadelphia.cbslocal.com] |
| Josey Wales (OP) User ID: 1038822 01/05/2011 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As for the 'accidental' discovery of the body. The body was meant to be found as a warning to the others. Its not plausible that sanitation workers would simply have come upon it that way, unless it was intended. [link to www.mitre.org] MITRE's Dave Kaplan, Lead Information Systems Engineer, onsite at the WTC cleanup. His view looks south from Vesey and West Streets. To the left of the photo is the damaged WTC building #6. The MITRE Corporation brought its technical and command and control Intelligence expertise to the rubble of New York City's World Trade Center towers shortly after the September 11 terrorist attacks. A quickly assembled group consisting of MITRE employees from Massachusetts and New Jersey, as well as the U.S. Army Communications-Electronic Command (CECOM), went to the rubble of the World Trade Center (WTC) towers with cellular location equipment, infrared cameras, and prototype mapping products. (seen below) They came well prepared. These maps were made to be used for above ground search and for below ground rescue operations. Original link: [link to letsrollforums.com] There is far more then meets the eye here! This man was murdered in a brutal manner, and dumped into a landfill as a warning to others. But who? Josey Wales -- |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1185535 01/05/2011 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember the Joe Stack thread. They have satellites that can see a news headlines a couple days in the future. They could have taken him out a day or two before he actually acted because that would have been headline news. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1189738 01/05/2011 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember the Joe Stack thread. They have satellites that can see a news headlines a couple days in the future. They could have taken him out a day or two before he actually acted because that would have been headline news. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1185535 |
| Josey Wales (OP) User ID: 1038822 01/05/2011 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember the Joe Stack thread. They have satellites that can see a news headlines a couple days in the future. They could have taken him out a day or two before he actually acted because that would have been headline news. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1185535They can do all sorts of things; The question is why did they murder him? And who murdered him? You can make a short list of the 50 most powerful people when it comes down to a nuclear crisis; This mans name would be among the top 5! Original link: [link to letsrollforums.com] Josey Wales --- More 9/11 links: [link to letsrollforums.com] |
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| Planet Xtra User ID: 1172855 01/06/2011 12:47 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mainstream news coverage on this is weak. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1155369As is news in general. They never tell us "The Truth" or what we Need to hear. They'll more than likely blame it on the cold weather and Fireworks ![]() |
| susano User ID: 1216262 01/06/2011 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember the Joe Stack thread. They have satellites that can see a news headlines a couple days in the future. They could have taken him out a day or two before he actually acted because that would have been headline news. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1185535Oh, come on! 5 stars for OP |
| susano User ID: 1216262 01/06/2011 01:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Video Released In Murder Mystery Of Delaware War Vet" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 919411WILMINGTON, Del. (CBS) – Eyewitness News has obtained exclusive surveillance video of a former presidential aide that was taken two days before his body was found dumped in a Delaware landfill. The body of John Wheeler III was found in the Cherry Island landfill in Wilmington on New Year’s Eve. The video shows a man that appears to be Wheeler entering the lobby of a parking garage at 5th and King Streets in Wilmington on December 29. An employee of the parking garage said Wheeler look disheveled and said he was looking for his car. The employee also said his right shoe, which appeared to be broken, was in his right hand. “From the way his shoe looked, I would say that it looked like somebody done something to him,” the worker told Eyewitness News. The video then shows the man getting on an elevator and walking around for 20 minutes. After that, he talked to a supervisor before he was escorted out the pedestrian door. Investigators said Wheeler was last seen at 10th and Orange Streets in Wilmington around 3:30 p.m. on December 30. A day later, police were called after Wheeler’s body was dumped out of a garbage truck into the Cherry Island landfill. Investigators said Wheeler’s car was found in its normal parking location in a garage across from the Wilmington train station. more at link... [link to philadelphia.cbslocal.com] Good article and tragic. Reading the comments now... |
| Josey Wales (OP) User ID: 1038822 01/06/2011 03:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mainstream news coverage on this is weak. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1155369Weak? It was barely mentioned as a sound byte as they rolled to the next BS story. Non existent is more like it; Like they wish it wasn't there and wish they didn't even have to mention it. And as we look further into his death, it gets weirder; Wheeler's death is the second time a murder has hit close to home for his current wife. In 1995, Klyce's sister, Emily Klyce Fisher, was brutally slain in her home in one of Memphis' toniest neighborhoods. Investigators later linked the murder to Fisher's drug-addled son, who had bragged about the valuables in the family safe to the men later accused of killing his mother. Klyce was Wheeler's third wife, friends say. Wheeler also had a very public romance with McDonald's founder Ray Kroc's daughter Linda Smith in the '80s, two associates confirmed. Smith could not be reached for comment. Original link: [link to letsrollforums.com] Josey Wales --- |
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| Josey Wales (OP) User ID: 1038822 01/06/2011 04:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I read the Lets Roll thread and all of the Examiner articles. Lots of weirdness around this case. Quoting: susanoYa, check this for weirdness; Good find Pic Pac; Start watching for the Wheeler footage caught on tape prior to his death around 1:23; He is holding his shoe and acting as though he is in a state of dementia. He also appears to be not wearing his show because of a possible injury to his foot, as he appears to be limping. And at one point, at around 2:20-2:25 he looks out of the doorway as though he were frightened or afraid, fearful, but appears to last only a moment. Original link: [link to letsrollforums.com] Ex-Presidential Aide's Murder Mystery Deepens Josey Wales --- |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 718510 01/06/2011 04:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd be interested to know if the old dude had alzheimers or some other degenerative disease like that, and maybe just wandered off into the wrong place and got himself offed by some street scum. Of course they'd never publish his medical status most likely, but the way he was acting would indicate something along those lines. |
| Desert-Rose-8 User ID: 1219289 01/06/2011 04:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has anyone mentioned that before his body was found, witnesses who saw him alive said he seemed to be disoriented, almost suffering dementia? Drugged or ill? The videos didn't seem to show he had any bruising, but he was disheveled. Wheeler mentioned his BRIEF CASE had been stolen so she didn't know where he had parked his car. Men, when you get a parking stub, don't you put it in your wallet rather than into a brief case? This is especially strange because the police reported his care was found in its "usual" place in the parking garage. Hummm, someone robbing him wouldn't want papers in a brief case but they would want his wallet, money, and any jewelry. The fact he was IDed so quickly would seem to indicate he had ID still on him because he had not been reported missing yet. If the parking stub WAS in the wallet, that would account for the police statement the care was found where expected. Little clues. Tonight they announced he had been dropped off to see his Mother. When I go to see my mother, I don't take a brief case. Does it seem strange to anyone else but ME? No one has reported the cause of death. Does anyone know? ![]() Last Edited by Desert-Rose-8 on 01/06/2011 04:44 AM |
| Josey Wales (OP) User ID: 1038822 01/06/2011 04:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has anyone mentioned that before his body was found, witnesses who saw him alive said he seemed to be disoriented, almost suffering dementia? Drugged or ill? The videos didn't seem to show he had any bruising, but he was disheveled. Quoting: Desert-Rose-8Wheeler mentioned his BRIEF CASE had been stolen so she didn't know where he had parked his car. Men, when you get a parking stub, don't you put it in your wallet rather than into a brief case? Hummm, someone robbing him wouldn't want papers in a brief case but they would want his wallet, money, and any jewelry. The fact he was IDed so quickly would seem to indicate he had ID still on him because he had not been reported missing yet. Tonight they announced he had been dropped off to see his Mother. When I go to see my mother, I don't take a brief case. Does it seem strange to anyone else but ME? No one has reported the cause of death. Does anyone know? That's the weird thing. They say he was brutally murdered but haven't yet said how. I know this is SOP in most murder investigations, but this old fella really had a bad day of it didn't he? He apparently hurt his foot, was mugged for his brief case, but not his wallet, and then wandered off for a little more torture and death. What an absolutely shitty day And then this MAJOR CFR player ends up being tossed into a landfill. Who had very close ties with Henry Kissinger. Who was supposed to be the first Chairman of the 911 Commission/Coverup. Original link: [link to letsrollforums.com] Josey Wales --- Last Edited by Josey Wales on 01/06/2011 05:15 AM |
| Desert-Rose-8 User ID: 1219289 01/06/2011 04:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd be interested to know if the old dude had alzheimers or some other degenerative disease like that, and maybe just wandered off into the wrong place and got himself offed by some street scum. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 718510Of course they'd never publish his medical status most likely, but the way he was acting would indicate something along those lines. According to his friends, he had emailed them as usual and no one reported he was incapacitated in any way. In fact, he was working on getting ROTC back in universities and still was active in the Viet Nam War Memorial. The hints at arson does not fit his long career, self-discipline and persona. He had lots of contacts and his lawyer was handling the zoning issue. This smacks of something dark. |
| Josey Wales (OP) User ID: 1038822 01/06/2011 05:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd be interested to know if the old dude had alzheimers or some other degenerative disease like that, and maybe just wandered off into the wrong place and got himself offed by some street scum. Quoting: Desert-Rose-8Of course they'd never publish his medical status most likely, but the way he was acting would indicate something along those lines. According to his friends, he had emailed them as usual and no one reported he was incapacitated in any way. In fact, he was working on getting ROTC back in universities and still was active in the Viet Nam War Memorial. The hints at arson does not fit his long career, self-discipline and persona. He had lots of contacts and his lawyer was handling the zoning issue. This smacks of something dark. Another few odd things I have noticed about this mans brutal murder; 1. The police seem to want to place him on or near Amtrak 2. The police early on ruled out his home as a crime scene 3. His neighbor reported an incendiary being thrown through his window (I think the night the music played) ** He was in a heated dispute with his neighbor through court; Now we have learned that around the evening of the 28th, his music was playing loudly, and left on for 3 days, which was not his custom. Very loud, to the point the neighbors could hear it through both his walls and theirs. Then his neighbor reports an incendiary thrown through his window. ( to confuse the situation and point police in the wrong direction perhaps?) And why are the police so hell bent on ruling out his home as a crime scene, when everything in the case points out that his home was at one point, indeed a crime scene? Original link: [link to letsrollforums.com] Someone should also get the names of the detectives on this case because they are not acting a honest brokers of the truth here, IMO,. Josey Wales --- Last Edited by Josey Wales on 01/06/2011 05:05 AM |
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| Josey Wales (OP) User ID: 1038822 01/06/2011 05:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | perps cracking under pressure, Quoting: Douglass Firthere will be more of this to come! Indeed. In the old Soviet Union this murder would be the equivilent of them finding Defense Minister Andropov in a Moscow dumpster. Yes, indeed, there will be more to come. Josey Wales --- |
| Josey Wales (OP) User ID: 1038822 01/06/2011 06:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, indeed, that didn't take long; This just in; Apparently it looks like they are moving towards perhaps blaming Wheeler for being an arsonist; This has just taken a weird turn folks! Apparently they are going to go with a story that Wheeler was an arsonist and that he wasn't too good at it since he left incriminating evidence of his crimes in his own home. Police spokesmen are feeding information to the news media indicating that evidence of five incendiary devices were discovered in the neighbors unfinished house and evidence of the same devices has also been found in the Wheeler home. U.S. News & World Report: Slain lawyer may have tried arson - Published: Jan. 5, 2011 at 11:25 PM WILMINGTON, Del., Jan. 5 (UPI) -- John P. Wheeler, the former presidential aide found dead in a Delaware landfill, may have tried to destroy a house being built across from his, police said. A police source told The Philadelphia Inquirer incendiary devices were found at the house and evidence has been found linking Wheeler to the attempted arson. Wheeler had unsuccessfully tried to stop construction of the house on the grounds that it would block the view of Delaware Bay from his house in the historic district of New Castle. Read the rest of this latest development here: [link to letsrollforums.com] Josey Wales --- |
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