COMPOUND BOW'S, HELP PLEASE.........

I have over 2000 dollars in my competition scope, but I don't think I could see that far with it.

what scope are you useing ?i have a toxonics nail driver with a extra large 4 times mag lens.about $1000 new.

You can probably get a decent new PSE for under 300$ at dicks. 70# is plenty....its a little too much actually, Ive had better luck killing things set back to 60# instead of having a thru and thru the arrow breaks off inside and the deer stops a lot quicker.

[Mathews Z-7 is an awesome bow as well. I would have bought the Z-7 but I never buy first year bows. I like to give them a year or two to work out the kinks. The Z-7 had some derailment problems due to cam depth as well as some trouble with their risers when they cut them which caused the limbs to tweak on a few. I may buy the Z-7 in 2011. Best selling bow on the market right now...

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i have nothing againt mathews but there entire 2011 line up is just z-7 copys.the top of the line one they want $2000 for.ummm fuck that..
bowtech release a new bow very soon that i cant wait to see.
and apa{not many ppl know about them}have some damm fine bows out this year.
code red are the best dropaway rests.
and fobs are great for hunting{just thought id throw that in for the never ending bow thread}
p.s everyone its 3 in the morning here in aus and op is probley fast asleep by now.

Z-7 is replacing the Reezen and while it is a great bow, I went with the Monster 7 and can't say I am the least bit disappointed...

I shot the Bowtech Assassin, which I think is the New Bow from Bowtech you are talking about. It is like a step up from the Soldier and I may replace my soldier with it. Very nice bow and very light, while a bit more forgiving than the Soldier...

3 best drop away rests are as follows IMHO...

Rip Cord Code Red

Vapor Trail Limb Driver

QAD - Similar to the code red, great rest, but more stuff for ice etc to screw up than the Code Red

Of course, can;t forget a simple and reliable rest...

The Trophy Ridge Whisker Biscuit.

You can probably get a decent new PSE for under 300$ at dicks. 70# is plenty....its a little too much actually, Ive had better luck killing things set back to 60# instead of having a thru and thru the arrow breaks off inside and the deer stops a lot quicker.

I would not recommend having Dicks tune your bow if you buy one there. Take it to a local pro shop...

[Mathews Z-7 is an awesome bow as well. I would have bought the Z-7 but I never buy first year bows. I like to give them a year or two to work out the kinks. The Z-7 had some derailment problems due to cam depth as well as some trouble with their risers when they cut them which caused the limbs to tweak on a few. I may buy the Z-7 in 2011. Best selling bow on the market right now...

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i have nothing againt mathews but there entire 2011 line up is just z-7 copys.the top of the line one they want $2000 for.ummm fuck that..
bowtech release a new bow very soon that i cant wait to see.
and apa{not many ppl know about them}have some damm fine bows out this year.
code red are the best dropaway rests.
and fobs are great for hunting{just thought id throw that in for the never ending bow thread}
p.s everyone its 3 in the morning here in aus and op is probley fast asleep by now.


No derailment problem, just a little sensative to torck,
the extreme is awesome

[Mathews Z-7 is an awesome bow as well. I would have bought the Z-7 but I never buy first year bows. I like to give them a year or two to work out the kinks. The Z-7 had some derailment problems due to cam depth as well as some trouble with their risers when they cut them which caused the limbs to tweak on a few. I may buy the Z-7 in 2011. Best selling bow on the market right now...

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i have nothing againt mathews but there entire 2011 line up is just z-7 copys.the top of the line one they want $2000 for.ummm fuck that..
bowtech release a new bow very soon that i cant wait to see.
and apa{not many ppl know about them}have some damm fine bows out this year.
code red are the best dropaway rests.
and fobs are great for hunting{just thought id throw that in for the never ending bow thread}
p.s everyone its 3 in the morning here in aus and op is probley fast asleep by now.


No derailment problem, just a little sensative to torck,
the extreme is awesome

Had 3 shooters from our range that had the Z-7 derail while stored in the case...

Mathews has resolved this already, but just an example as to why I wait a few before buying and this is regardless of Manufacturer. No matter what, you will have a few kinks in the first run Likely I will pick up either the Z-7 2011 or the Bowtech Destroyer 350(Derailment issues too btw). May even get the assassin...

Both companies make some really nice bows...

[Mathews Z-7 is an awesome bow as well. I would have bought the Z-7 but I never buy first year bows. I like to give them a year or two to work out the kinks. The Z-7 had some derailment problems due to cam depth as well as some trouble with their risers when they cut them which caused the limbs to tweak on a few. I may buy the Z-7 in 2011. Best selling bow on the market right now...

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i have nothing againt mathews but there entire 2011 line up is just z-7 copys.the top of the line one they want $2000 for.ummm fuck that..
bowtech release a new bow very soon that i cant wait to see.
and apa{not many ppl know about them}have some damm fine bows out this year.
code red are the best dropaway rests.
and fobs are great for hunting{just thought id throw that in for the never ending bow thread}
p.s everyone its 3 in the morning here in aus and op is probley fast asleep by now.

Z-7 is replacing the Reezen and while it is a great bow, I went with the Monster 7 and can't say I am the least bit disappointed...

I shot the Bowtech Assassin, which I think is the New Bow from Bowtech you are talking about. It is like a step up from the Soldier and I may replace my soldier with it. Very nice bow and very light, while a bit more forgiving than the Soldier...

3 best drop away rests are as follows IMHO...

Rip Cord Code Red

Vapor Trail Limb Driver

QAD - Similar to the code red, great rest, but more stuff for ice etc to screw up than the Code Red

Of course, can;t forget a simple and reliable rest...

The Trophy Ridge Whisker Biscuit.


yes, moster 7, we have sold the most of them over all the monster models....the Z7 extreme is hot too.

[Mathews Z-7 is an awesome bow as well. I would have bought the Z-7 but I never buy first year bows. I like to give them a year or two to work out the kinks. The Z-7 had some derailment problems due to cam depth as well as some trouble with their risers when they cut them which caused the limbs to tweak on a few. I may buy the Z-7 in 2011. Best selling bow on the market right now...

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i have nothing againt mathews but there entire 2011 line up is just z-7 copys.the top of the line one they want $2000 for.ummm fuck that..
bowtech release a new bow very soon that i cant wait to see.
and apa{not many ppl know about them}have some damm fine bows out this year.
code red are the best dropaway rests.
and fobs are great for hunting{just thought id throw that in for the never ending bow thread}
p.s everyone its 3 in the morning here in aus and op is probley fast asleep by now.

Z-7 is replacing the Reezen and while it is a great bow, I went with the Monster 7 and can't say I am the least bit disappointed...

I shot the Bowtech Assassin, which I think is the New Bow from Bowtech you are talking about. It is like a step up from the Soldier and I may replace my soldier with it. Very nice bow and very light, while a bit more forgiving than the Soldier...

3 best drop away rests are as follows IMHO...

Rip Cord Code Red

Vapor Trail Limb Driver

QAD - Similar to the code red, great rest, but more stuff for ice etc to screw up than the Code Red

Of course, can;t forget a simple and reliable rest...

The Trophy Ridge Whisker Biscuit.


yes, moster 7, we have sold the most of them over all the monster models....the Z7 extreme is hot too.

I love that bow. Had it since October...

Guy that owns the shop was asking me what the hell I was shooting at when I was there a week ago. I told him I was testing a theory. He asked me what theory and I replied that I was wondering if an arrow striking the head of a strike anywhere match would create enough friction to light it off

He looked at me and asked how many I had hit. I had fired three shots from approx 17 yards at that point and replied 3... He then asked me if I noticed all the hay bales around and made me sign up for a shoot in Feb...

Pretty funny. I really like the HHA sights too btw

[Mathews Z-7 is an awesome bow as well. I would have bought the Z-7 but I never buy first year bows. I like to give them a year or two to work out the kinks. The Z-7 had some derailment problems due to cam depth as well as some trouble with their risers when they cut them which caused the limbs to tweak on a few. I may buy the Z-7 in 2011. Best selling bow on the market right now...

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i have nothing againt mathews but there entire 2011 line up is just z-7 copys.the top of the line one they want $2000 for.ummm fuck that..
bowtech release a new bow very soon that i cant wait to see.
and apa{not many ppl know about them}have some damm fine bows out this year.
code red are the best dropaway rests.
and fobs are great for hunting{just thought id throw that in for the never ending bow thread}
p.s everyone its 3 in the morning here in aus and op is probley fast asleep by now.

Z-7 is replacing the Reezen and while it is a great bow, I went with the Monster 7 and can't say I am the least bit disappointed...

I shot the Bowtech Assassin, which I think is the New Bow from Bowtech you are talking about. It is like a step up from the Soldier and I may replace my soldier with it. Very nice bow and very light, while a bit more forgiving than the Soldier...

3 best drop away rests are as follows IMHO...

Rip Cord Code Red

Vapor Trail Limb Driver

QAD - Similar to the code red, great rest, but more stuff for ice etc to screw up than the Code Red

Of course, can;t forget a simple and reliable rest...

The Trophy Ridge Whisker Biscuit.


yes, moster 7, we have sold the most of them over all the monster models....the Z7 extreme is hot too.

I love that bow. Had it since October...

Guy that owns the shop was asking me what the hell I was shooting at when I was there a week ago. I told him I was testing a theory. He asked me what theory and I replied that I was wondering if an arrow striking the head of a strike anywhere match would create enough friction to light it off

He looked at me and asked how many I had hit. I had fired three shots from approx 17 yards at that point and replied 3... He then asked me if I noticed all the hay bales around and made me sign up for a shoot in Feb...

Pretty funny. I really like the HHA sights too btw

[Mathews Z-7 is an awesome bow as well. I would have bought the Z-7 but I never buy first year bows. I like to give them a year or two to work out the kinks. The Z-7 had some derailment problems due to cam depth as well as some trouble with their risers when they cut them which caused the limbs to tweak on a few. I may buy the Z-7 in 2011. Best selling bow on the market right now...

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i have nothing againt mathews but there entire 2011 line up is just z-7 copys.the top of the line one they want $2000 for.ummm fuck that..
bowtech release a new bow very soon that i cant wait to see.
and apa{not many ppl know about them}have some damm fine bows out this year.
code red are the best dropaway rests.
and fobs are great for hunting{just thought id throw that in for the never ending bow thread}
p.s everyone its 3 in the morning here in aus and op is probley fast asleep by now.

Z-7 is replacing the Reezen and while it is a great bow, I went with the Monster 7 and can't say I am the least bit disappointed...

I shot the Bowtech Assassin, which I think is the New Bow from Bowtech you are talking about. It is like a step up from the Soldier and I may replace my soldier with it. Very nice bow and very light, while a bit more forgiving than the Soldier...

3 best drop away rests are as follows IMHO...

Rip Cord Code Red

Vapor Trail Limb Driver

QAD - Similar to the code red, great rest, but more stuff for ice etc to screw up than the Code Red

Of course, can;t forget a simple and reliable rest...

The Trophy Ridge Whisker Biscuit.


yes, moster 7, we have sold the most of them over all the monster models....the Z7 extreme is hot too.

I love that bow. Had it since October...

Guy that owns the shop was asking me what the hell I was shooting at when I was there a week ago. I told him I was testing a theory. He asked me what theory and I replied that I was wondering if an arrow striking the head of a strike anywhere match would create enough friction to light it off

He looked at me and asked how many I had hit. I had fired three shots from approx 17 yards at that point and replied 3... He then asked me if I noticed all the hay bales around and made me sign up for a shoot in Feb...

Pretty funny. I really like the HHA sights too btw

People think the old Robin hood Splitting arrows is bullshit,but any archer knows it's quite common!

[Mathews Z-7 is an awesome bow as well. I would have bought the Z-7 but I never buy first year bows. I like to give them a year or two to work out the kinks. The Z-7 had some derailment problems due to cam depth as well as some trouble with their risers when they cut them which caused the limbs to tweak on a few. I may buy the Z-7 in 2011. Best selling bow on the market right now...

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i have nothing againt mathews but there entire 2011 line up is just z-7 copys.the top of the line one they want $2000 for.ummm fuck that..
bowtech release a new bow very soon that i cant wait to see.
and apa{not many ppl know about them}have some damm fine bows out this year.
code red are the best dropaway rests.
and fobs are great for hunting{just thought id throw that in for the never ending bow thread}
p.s everyone its 3 in the morning here in aus and op is probley fast asleep by now.

Z-7 is replacing the Reezen and while it is a great bow, I went with the Monster 7 and can't say I am the least bit disappointed...

I shot the Bowtech Assassin, which I think is the New Bow from Bowtech you are talking about. It is like a step up from the Soldier and I may replace my soldier with it. Very nice bow and very light, while a bit more forgiving than the Soldier...

3 best drop away rests are as follows IMHO...

Rip Cord Code Red

Vapor Trail Limb Driver

QAD - Similar to the code red, great rest, but more stuff for ice etc to screw up than the Code Red

Of course, can;t forget a simple and reliable rest...

The Trophy Ridge Whisker Biscuit.


yes, moster 7, we have sold the most of them over all the monster models....the Z7 extreme is hot too.

I love that bow. Had it since October...

Guy that owns the shop was asking me what the hell I was shooting at when I was there a week ago. I told him I was testing a theory. He asked me what theory and I replied that I was wondering if an arrow striking the head of a strike anywhere match would create enough friction to light it off

He looked at me and asked how many I had hit. I had fired three shots from approx 17 yards at that point and replied 3... He then asked me if I noticed all the hay bales around and made me sign up for a shoot in Feb...

Pretty funny. I really like the HHA sights too btw

People think the old Robin hood Splitting arrows is bullshit,but any archer knows it's quite common!

we sell more arrows that way, so we encourage tight grouping, and love the robin hoods.

we sell more arrows that way, so we encourage tight grouping, and love the robin hoods.

Guy that owns the indoor range we go to has what he calls a Bionic Deer

Taunted me when I was first getting back into it and said he doubted I could kill it. Deers vitals were covered with a .5" thick steel plate with a 2" hole in front of the heart. Fired the first one and torqued the bow on release and watched said arrow explode just a hair into the steel area. Fired the second one and nailed it.

I asked him how many arrows he sells that way.

Just had a guy robin hood his arrow yesterday. New shooter and he thought he had lost both arrows and was bummed as they cost him about 15.00 each. We saved the one arrow for him and put the other one in the KIA bin

Reading this thread, the idea of maintenance i cant do myself puts me off ever buying a compound.

Now im not sure i actually want one, if it was like a 1000 dollar hoyt i might understand taking it to a pro to be properly cared for, like you might for a 2000 dollar gibson guitar, but i just want a 200-300 dollar bow, if i cant set it up and tweak it all myself i dont see the point really.

Imagine having a rifle you couldn't clean, set up the scope and press bullets for, or a guitar you cant restring on your own, seems like too much effort.

Maybe im missing something, why cant i buy a bow and set it up and adjust it for relative comfort.

Reading this thread, the idea of maintenance i cant do myself puts me off ever buying a compound.

Now im not sure i actually want one, if it was like a 1000 dollar hoyt i might understand taking it to a pro to be properly cared for, like you might for a 2000 dollar gibson guitar, but i just want a 200-300 dollar bow, if i cant set it up and tweak it all myself i dont see the point really.

Imagine having a rifle you couldn't clean, set up the scope and press bullets for, or a guitar you cant restring on your own, seems like too much effort.

Maybe im missing something, why cant i buy a bow and set it up and adjust it for relative comfort.

Reading this thread, the idea of maintenance i cant do myself puts me off ever buying a compound.

Now im not sure i actually want one, if it was like a 1000 dollar hoyt i might understand taking it to a pro to be properly cared for, like you might for a 2000 dollar gibson guitar, but i just want a 200-300 dollar bow, if i cant set it up and tweak it all myself i dont see the point really.

Imagine having a rifle you couldn't clean, set up the scope and press bullets for, or a guitar you cant restring on your own, seems like too much effort.

Maybe im missing something, why cant i buy a bow and set it up and adjust it for relative comfort.

Reading this thread, the idea of maintenance i cant do myself puts me off ever buying a compound.

Now im not sure i actually want one, if it was like a 1000 dollar hoyt i might understand taking it to a pro to be properly cared for, like you might for a 2000 dollar gibson guitar, but i just want a 200-300 dollar bow, if i cant set it up and tweak it all myself i dont see the point really.

Imagine having a rifle you couldn't clean, set up the scope and press bullets for, or a guitar you cant restring on your own, seems like too much effort.

Maybe im missing something, why cant i buy a bow and set it up and adjust it for relative comfort.

You can, you just need to know what you are doing and have the right tools to do it, just like you would for firearms...

if you are looking in the 300.00 range, then perhaps the Bowtech Soldier is your best best. I have this bow and use it for a pack bow as it has a short ATA and is lightweight...

However, the best best for least maintenance and ease of use is a recurve or longbow. Simple, fun to shoot and only maintenance you need to do is to clean it and replace the string every so many years...

[Mathews Z-7 is an awesome bow as well. I would have bought the Z-7 but I never buy first year bows. I like to give them a year or two to work out the kinks. The Z-7 had some derailment problems due to cam depth as well as some trouble with their risers when they cut them which caused the limbs to tweak on a few. I may buy the Z-7 in 2011. Best selling bow on the market right now...

___________________________________________________________


i have nothing againt mathews but there entire 2011 line up is just z-7 copys.the top of the line one they want $2000 for.ummm fuck that..
bowtech release a new bow very soon that i cant wait to see.
and apa{not many ppl know about them}have some damm fine bows out this year.
code red are the best dropaway rests.
and fobs are great for hunting{just thought id throw that in for the never ending bow thread}
p.s everyone its 3 in the morning here in aus and op is probley fast asleep by now.

Z-7 is replacing the Reezen and while it is a great bow, I went with the Monster 7 and can't say I am the least bit disappointed...

I shot the Bowtech Assassin, which I think is the New Bow from Bowtech you are talking about. It is like a step up from the Soldier and I may replace my soldier with it. Very nice bow and very light, while a bit more forgiving than the Soldier...

3 best drop away rests are as follows IMHO...

Rip Cord Code Red

Vapor Trail Limb Driver

QAD - Similar to the code red, great rest, but more stuff for ice etc to screw up than the Code Red

Of course, can;t forget a simple and reliable rest...

The Trophy Ridge Whisker Biscuit.


yes, moster 7, we have sold the most of them over all the monster models....the Z7 extreme is hot too.

I love that bow. Had it since October...

Guy that owns the shop was asking me what the hell I was shooting at when I was there a week ago. I told him I was testing a theory. He asked me what theory and I replied that I was wondering if an arrow striking the head of a strike anywhere match would create enough friction to light it off

He looked at me and asked how many I had hit. I had fired three shots from approx 17 yards at that point and replied 3... He then asked me if I noticed all the hay bales around and made me sign up for a shoot in Feb...

Pretty funny. I really like the HHA sights too btw

People think the old Robin hood Splitting arrows is bullshit,but any archer knows it's quite common!

Good Bows here....
[link to www.borderbows.com]

Good Bows here....
[link to www.borderbows.com]


yea, and if you buy online then at least go to a pro shop for a correct measure on draw length. When you buy a bow, it needs to be exact draw cam, or adjustable cam for your proper length. And if you are going to shoot with a release, then get measured for release, fingers measure if a little different.

Good Bows here....
[link to www.borderbows.com]


yea, and if you buy online then at least go to a pro shop for a correct measure on draw length. When you buy a bow, it needs to be exact draw cam, or adjustable cam for your proper length. And if you are going to shoot with a release, then get measured for release, fingers measure if a little different.

Yeah, but some of these one piece recurves are pretty straight forward.they just shoot.

I bought an Excalibur, it's kick ass!

[link to www.excaliburcrossbow.com]

Reading this thread, the idea of maintenance i cant do myself puts me off ever buying a compound.

Now im not sure i actually want one, if it was like a 1000 dollar hoyt i might understand taking it to a pro to be properly cared for, like you might for a 2000 dollar gibson guitar, but i just want a 200-300 dollar bow, if i cant set it up and tweak it all myself i dont see the point really.

Imagine having a rifle you couldn't clean, set up the scope and press bullets for, or a guitar you cant restring on your own, seems like too much effort.

Maybe im missing something, why cant i buy a bow and set it up and adjust it for relative comfort.

Good Bows here....
[link to www.borderbows.com]


yea, and if you buy online then at least go to a pro shop for a correct measure on draw length. When you buy a bow, it needs to be exact draw cam, or adjustable cam for your proper length. And if you are going to shoot with a release, then get measured for release, fingers measure if a little different.

Yeah, but some of these one piece recurves are pretty straight forward.they just shoot.

Looking on Ebay, does anybody know what to look for in terms of quality? I dont want anything too pricey, mid range cost...... Untill I get a gun I want one of these, Any info welcome