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BREAKING: Shift of Earth's magnetic north pole impacts Tampa airport!

 
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hehe, no wonder this
Thread: !!! CHECK YOUR COMPASS!!! MINE ARE ALL 180 DEGREES OFF!!!

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One of the many many things I love about GLP is that nothing gets by you guys! The news is always here first. So at the risk of sounding like a moran, is this why the sun is setting in a more south westerly direction as opposed to due west?
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I noticed that as well to im located in ohio
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Wow, just wow. I'm glad I was nice on the "My compass is off" thread. GLP rocks, everyone is so far ahead of the curve!
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Yes, but that night I noticed a lot of people were using a Iphone / Driod / or other GPS compass, which have had glitches for years now and a whole variety of things like house wiring, electronic devices, etc. throw them off. Threads like that have been around forever, so i didn't pay much attention.
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hehe, no wonder this
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One of the many many things I love about GLP is that nothing gets by you guys! The news is always here first. So at the risk of sounding like a moran, is this why the sun is setting in a more south westerly direction as opposed to due west?
 Quoting: Ellie Mae Clampet

No, the sun is right where it should be.
Thread: Come see live video of the moon, stars, and a telescopic sunrise! (Page 2)
It's called seasonal change; the sun doesn't set or rise in the same place every day, it appears to move along the ecliptic over the course of the year. At winter solstice, the sun will rise and set at about the point where -23.44 degrees declination meets your local horizon (if indeed it meets it at all depending on your location on earth). For most of those of us living in the northern hemisphere that will mean the sun sets in a south westerly direction.
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TAMPA - Scientists say the magnetic north pole is moving toward Russia and the fallout has reached -- of all places -- Tampa International Airport.
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the magnetic north is constantly in variance and affects all airports as aircraft land with magnetic heads.

As an example, Manchester Airport in the UK has renamed their runways 24L and 24R to 23L and 23R due to magnetic shift quite recently. (If you are unaware the two digits of a runway number reflect the rounded magnetic heading of a runway, so runway 24 is 240 degrees or thereabouts, runway 23 is 230 degrees or thereabouts)

Most approach charts for airports give magnetic variance as a value on the chart, for example +2 degrees per year.

The famous "Miami Nines' at Miami Airport renumbered quite recently too to account for mag var.

The mag var affects airports as aircraft land using magnetic headings. The only time we fly on true heading is over the Polar regions.

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It's not only the magnetic pole that shifts. The Inuit eskimo elders confirmed last year that the Earth is physically shifting as well...

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1160448

I confirmed that the earth is not physically shifting...

Here it is, a photo from mid-November of this year.
[link to www.flickr.com]
Astrometry reveals that at 1:1 scale, the image angular resolution is 51.32 arcseconds per pixel:
[link to www.flickr.com]
Polaris coordinates precessed to 2010 are 02h 43m 44.22s, 89d 18' 25.7" so it should have an offset from the north celestial pole of 2494.3 arcseconds. I measure Polaris to be 48.5 pixels offset from the north celestial pole in this image.
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
That equates to an offset of 2489.02 arcseconds, well within the resolution of the photo itself. It doesn't get more accurate than that using this technique. Conclusion? The north celestial pole is right where it should be.
 Quoting: Astronut


That's quite in contradiction to Igloolik elder Augustine Taqquraq's claim that the sun is "44 degrees off" documented here:
[link to www.isuma.tv]
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And all of you people thought I was nutty when I told you that when we took off from Tampa Airport on Sunday that our pilot was correcting more then usual right after our takeoff.
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TAMPA - Scientists say the magnetic north pole is moving toward Russia and the fallout has reached -- of all places -- Tampa International Airport.
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they are repainting a runway!!!!!
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TAMPA - Scientists say the magnetic north pole is moving toward Russia and the fallout has reached -- of all places -- Tampa International Airport.

they are repainting a runway!!!!!
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they have to repaint the runway to add the new numbers and markings to represent the magnetic variation,
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TAMPA - Scientists say the magnetic north pole is moving toward Russia and the fallout has reached -- of all places -- Tampa International Airport.

they are repainting a runway!!!!!
 Quoting: cg



Because the magnetic north is in a different spot then it used to be!
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And all of you people thought I was nutty when I told you that when we took off from Tampa Airport on Sunday that our pilot was correcting more then usual right after our takeoff.
 Quoting: Mother Mary


that would likely just be departure vectors for traffic
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should have figured something was up when the Mega Millions winning Numbers just about lost the numbers on "LOST"
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TAMPA - Scientists say the magnetic north pole is moving toward Russia and the fallout has reached -- of all places -- Tampa International Airport.

they are repainting a runway!!!!!



Because the magnetic north is in a different spot then it used to be!
 Quoting: Mother Mary


as I said earlier, it is in constant flux and is quite normal to affect airports. Take runway 27L at Heathrow, it used to be runway 28 in the 1960s and in 10 years time with the mag var will have moved to be runway 26.

Last year the runway heading was 274 mag, this year it is 273 and will be renumbered to runway 26 once it reaches 269 degrees mag,

That said, the true heading is exactly 270, which is static. Airports are always having to renumber runways (and hence repaint the runway markings) to show magnetic variation.

All quite normal
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TAMPA - Scientists say the magnetic north pole is moving toward Russia and the fallout has reached -- of all places -- Tampa International Airport.

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Moving 40 miles a year and when does it figure it will stop? I'm trying to find out if we are going to be the new equator, sorry Europe you are going to be the new North Pole. Sweet does that mean NE United States will be the equator?!! Don't know if my skin can handle that much sun, LOL.

Great find on the story, now they are admitting to it, fantastic!
 Quoting: TM62


You are a complete and utter idiot. The MAGNETIC North Pole is moving (as it always has and always will), which has absolutely nothing to do with the real North Pole. The utter stupidity these threads bring out, it truly terrifying.
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[link to www.ufo-blogger.com]


birds and fish death are from methane released from crevicess in earth, due to increased plate movements, fault lines coming apart

WOW,now that is news planet ripping apart.

Its not ripping apart lol
You would see signs in the Solar system evident in the sky massively long before that happened.
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Are you for real?
Look at the recent changes in our own solar system. Look at the changes on the rings of Saturn and the surface of Jupiter.

Look at the reports form voyager One and Two as well as reports from the Russian Space program

and NASA.

Once you read those documents the only conclusion is that we are in for one hell of a ride.
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Moving 40 miles a year and when does it figure it will stop? I'm trying to find out if we are going to be the new equator, sorry Europe you are going to be the new North Pole. Sweet does that mean NE United States will be the equator?!! Don't know if my skin can handle that much sun, LOL.

Great find on the story, now they are admitting to it, fantastic!


You are a complete and utter idiot. The MAGNETIC North Pole is moving (as it always has and always will), which has absolutely nothing to do with the real North Pole. The utter stupidity these threads bring out, it truly terrifying.
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agreed, although I would not call it stupidity, just lack of knowledge. As a pilot this is something I have to deal with constantly, dealing with magnetic variation
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--and NASA.

Once you read those documents the only conclusion is that we are in for one hell of a ride.
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yes, and NASA;

7 years ago!!! [link to www.nasa.gov]

Sometimes the field completely flips. The north and the south poles swap places. Such reversals, recorded in the magnetism of ancient rocks, are unpredictable. They come at irregular intervals averaging about 300,000 years; the last one was 780,000 years ago. Are we overdue for another? No one knows.

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Are you for real?
Look at the recent changes in our own solar system. Look at the changes on the rings of Saturn and the surface of Jupiter.

Look at the reports form voyager One and Two as well as reports from the Russian Space program

and NASA.

Once you read those documents the only conclusion is that we are in for one hell of a ride.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1208973

Pop quiz.
What's missing in this picture and when did it go missing?
jup1973
Did earth rip apart shortly after this picture was taken?
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hehe, no wonder this
Thread: !!! CHECK YOUR COMPASS!!! MINE ARE ALL 180 DEGREES OFF!!!

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One of the many many things I love about GLP is that nothing gets by you guys! The news is always here first. So at the risk of sounding like a moran, is this why the sun is setting in a more south westerly direction as opposed to due west?

No, the sun is right where it should be.
Thread: Come see live video of the moon, stars, and a telescopic sunrise! (Page 2)
It's called seasonal change; the sun doesn't set or rise in the same place every day, it appears to move along the ecliptic over the course of the year. At winter solstice, the sun will rise and set at about the point where -23.44 degrees declination meets your local horizon (if indeed it meets it at all depending on your location on earth). For most of those of us living in the northern hemisphere that will mean the sun sets in a south westerly direction.
 Quoting: Astronut

This I believe is true astro guy.

Of course it is well known among geologists that we have magnetic flips every so many years as well as extinction events.
The question being posed among those who study such things would be when and how fast do these events occur.

Catyclysmic geology as first proposed around Einstiens time seems to indicate that they happen quickly as fossil evidence seems to show this.
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No, the sun is right where it should be.
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No, it depends on where you live and how the earth is shifting. Maybe you live on the axis-point where nothing or almost nothing is changing. On the north- or southpole the diffence would be much bigger.
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Of course it is well known among geologists that we have magnetic flips every so many years as well as extinction events.
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Show me a significant correlation between magnetic pole reversals and extinction events.
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Are you for real?
Look at the recent changes in our own solar system. Look at the changes on the rings of Saturn and the surface of Jupiter.

Look at the reports form voyager One and Two as well as reports from the Russian Space program

and NASA.

Once you read those documents the only conclusion is that we are in for one hell of a ride.

Pop quiz.
What's missing in this picture and when did it go missing?
:jup1973:
Did earth rip apart shortly after this picture was taken?
 Quoting: Astronut



I doubt if the earth will rip apart...lol...I do believe that the at some point in time changes in our solar system will disrupt the ecosystems on earth and change the pecking order as we have seen happen over the course of millions of years.

This is all new territiry for many and all we can do at this point is follow up on educated premises.

Even with all of our technology we are at the mercy of mother nature.

We are using our latest know how to build underground bunkers as well as various seed vaults. We all know something will happen...when and how drastic is the big topic of discusion of course.

By the sway I enjoy your posts...i mostly lurk.
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No, it depends on where you live and how the earth is shifting.
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Astronomy fail. A shift would induce an equal angular shift in the apparent position of the sun regardless of one's location.
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agreed, although I would not call it stupidity, just lack of knowledge. As a pilot this is something I have to deal with constantly, dealing with magnetic variation
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Wow, you're a pilot too Janey? Which types of aircraft are you certified for? Just curious.
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Of course it is well known among geologists that we have magnetic flips every so many years as well as extinction events.
Show me a significant correlation between magnetic pole reversals and extinction events.
 Quoting: Astronut


Study the ice core data sets
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Of course it is well known among geologists that we have magnetic flips every so many years as well as extinction events.
Show me a significant correlation between magnetic pole reversals and extinction events.
 Quoting: Astronut

The Pleistocene era would be the obvious example. this( magnetic pole reversal) was observed in Japan in the 1920's. The team discovered that the deposits had a polarization flip as they cooled.

This period is known for its glacial cycles and the extiction events connected to many large North American mammals such as the Giant Sloth, Mammoth etc.

Notice that during the flip the continetal plates were stable.

Sorry for spll errors etc ..small keyboard and in a hurry.



Evidence shows dramatic climate change though.
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Of course it is well known among geologists that we have magnetic flips every so many years as well as extinction events.
Show me a significant correlation between magnetic pole reversals and extinction events.


Study the ice core data sets
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Show me a statistically significant correlation between magnetic pole reversals and extinction events.
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TAMPA - Scientists say the magnetic north pole is moving toward Russia and the fallout has reached -- of all places -- Tampa International Airport.
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I have to admit I am intrigued by the Inuit observations.

My eldest is working on her masters concerning glacial till on Ellsmere up in northern Canada.

I try not to discount Inuit or First nation observations when they depend upon the sun and moon for direction.

When I was working in northern Saskatchewan I had many interesting dicusions with first nation trappers concerning climate change.

for the most part they believe it to be a natural cycle as do i

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