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BREAKING: Shift of Earth's magnetic north pole impacts Tampa airport!

 
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Show me a statistically significant correlation between magnetic pole reversals and extinction events.
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Why would anyone want to waste their time bothering to show you?

For those who truly want to LEARN about the effect of magnetic pole reversals on our planet, get Robert Felix's book "Reversals and Evolutionary Leaps". For the rest of you ..

GO BACK TO SLEEP .. NOTHING TO SEE HERE!

One can also check out some of the recent reviews of the book like this one below.

Bookviews.com puts Magnetic Reversals and Evolutionary Leaps at the top of their November "Picks of the Month"
[link to www.evolutionaryleaps.com]

2 Nov 08 - "As we begin the holiday season of Thanksgiving, Christmas and Chanukah, there are any number of wonderful books that would make great gifts.

"By far one of the most extraordinary books about a scientific phenomenon to come along in a long time is Robert W. Felix’s Magnetic Reversals and Evolutionary Leaps.

"In essence, while Darwin intuited how species evolved, he was unaware of the enormous impact of cyclical magnetic reversals. Briefly stated, new species occur spontaneously when magnetic reversals occur. They also account for mass extinctions which are the rule, not the exception, and have been occurring for the 3.5 billion years of life on Earth.

"These geomagnetic reversals also occur in synch with ice ages and they happen fast!

"Felix, the author of Not by Fire but by Ice, a book that reveals why they occur and how they have affected life on Earth, writes in a manner that even someone with little or no science knowledge can understand. He writes about those major geomagnetic and solar events that have transformed and will transform life on Earth."

See entire review: [link to www.bookviews.com]
You can always tell a SHILL by how many posts they make on things they don't believe in.
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DOOM!! Rings around Uranus captured in rare photo
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Very interesting thread.

And now it's been activated.

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Show me a statistically significant correlation between magnetic pole reversals and extinction events.

Why would anyone want to waste their time bothering to show you?

For those who truly want to LEARN about the effect of magnetic pole reversals on our planet, get Robert Felix's book "Reversals and Evolutionary Leaps". For the rest of you ..

GO BACK TO SLEEP .. NOTHING TO SEE HERE!

One can also check out some of the recent reviews of the book like this one below.

Bookviews.com puts Magnetic Reversals and Evolutionary Leaps at the top of their November "Picks of the Month"
[link to www.evolutionaryleaps.com]

2 Nov 08 - "As we begin the holiday season of Thanksgiving, Christmas and Chanukah, there are any number of wonderful books that would make great gifts.

"By far one of the most extraordinary books about a scientific phenomenon to come along in a long time is Robert W. Felix’s Magnetic Reversals and Evolutionary Leaps.

"In essence, while Darwin intuited how species evolved, he was unaware of the enormous impact of cyclical magnetic reversals. Briefly stated, new species occur spontaneously when magnetic reversals occur. They also account for mass extinctions which are the rule, not the exception, and have been occurring for the 3.5 billion years of life on Earth.

"These geomagnetic reversals also occur in synch with ice ages and they happen fast!

"Felix, the author of Not by Fire but by Ice, a book that reveals why they occur and how they have affected life on Earth, writes in a manner that even someone with little or no science knowledge can understand. He writes about those major geomagnetic and solar events that have transformed and will transform life on Earth."

See entire review: [link to www.bookviews.com]
 Quoting: upstateny


That!

And here again;

Alexander Fefelov, a senior spokesman for the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, said that planet Earth would have its magnetic and geographic poles relocated during the upcoming years.

“Planet Earth on the orbit is a round object in weightlessness. The planet may suddenly change its axial inclination from time to time. It happens once in 23,000 years. The pole displacement angle may reach 30 degrees. The South Pole used to be located in the area of Easter Island before the latest displacement, whereas the North Pole was located in the Himalayas. That is why mammoths, rhinoceroses and saber-toothed tigers used to inhabit Arctic latitudes. It was a very sudden displacement of poles. Archeologists still uncover animals with indigested herbal food in their stomachs, which means that the animals died as a result of fast freezing, so to speak,” the scientist said.

Who needs more proof - should go to look somewhere else. Perhaps outside this box and the telescope! yoda
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Had some trouble with my digital GPS compass yesterday - it could not locate north correctly.

Anyone else had the same things?
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The Pleistocene era would be the obvious example. this( magnetic pole reversal) was observed in Japan in the 1920's. The team discovered that the deposits had a polarization flip as they cooled.
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Perhaps I should have been more specific; I'm asking for a correlation analysis showing a significant correlation between pole reversals and extinction events. Here is a list of geomagnetic pole flips in millions of years, I can find no significant correlation to recent extinction events:
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Yeah I've landed on that runway about 50 times..

Its called magnetic deviation and its been going on for millions of years.

It will hit a point though when it will start to slide at a very fast rate. We are juuuust about there. We are way overdue.
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This is more evidence of Global Warming® ...of course.
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This is better proof that we are doomed.
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Why would anyone want to waste their time bothering to show you?
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That tells me there is no statistically significant correlation, certainly none that you're capable of showing.
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Are you for real?
Look at the recent changes in our own solar system. Look at the changes on the rings of Saturn and the surface of Jupiter.

Look at the reports form voyager One and Two as well as reports from the Russian Space program

and NASA.

Once you read those documents the only conclusion is that we are in for one hell of a ride.

Pop quiz.
What's missing in this picture and when did it go missing?
:jup1973:
Did earth rip apart shortly after this picture was taken?



I doubt if the earth will rip apart...lol...I do believe that the at some point in time changes in our solar system will disrupt the ecosystems on earth and change the pecking order as we have seen happen over the course of millions of years.

This is all new territiry for many and all we can do at this point is follow up on educated premises.

Even with all of our technology we are at the mercy of mother nature.

We are using our latest know how to build underground bunkers as well as various seed vaults. We all know something will happen...when and how drastic is the big topic of discusion of course.

By the sway I enjoy your posts...i mostly lurk.
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Ditto for me AstroNut.I really enjoy your posts. thumbs
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Better get on board the 2012 change train!

takes 2000 years according to the cali professor, so dooooooom wiiilllllllll beeeeeeeee veeerrrryyyyyyy sssslllloooooowwwwwww!
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whatever. how's this?, it started 2000 yrs ago.


anyway..this thinking comes from the old theories that everything goes slooooooooowwwwww..which has been proven wrong over and over..but you know, it takes awhile for boxheads and sheeple to change their thinking..

and then you also have scientists saying,"it wont happen for another 100 to 1 million" just as long as its beyond their lifetime..scared little shits, arent they?
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Of course it is well known among geologists that we have magnetic flips every so many years as well as extinction events.
Show me a significant correlation between magnetic pole reversals and extinction events.


Study the ice core data sets

Show me a statistically significant correlation between magnetic pole reversals and extinction events.
 Quoting: Astronut

Are you addmitting it is possible for a pole reversal event? .Extinction events all set aside.
Did you look into core samples?
Maybe you should point your telescope down and see whats there
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whatever. how's this?, it started 2000 yrs ago.
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This is key here.

Yes, we began going in the wrong direction 2000 years ago.

The time has come to make things right again.

and then you also have scientists saying,"it wont happen for another 100 to 1 million" just as long as its beyond their lifetime..scared little shits, arent they?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 788508


Lol.

Yes indeed.

Science isn't what it used to be.

That's for certain.

How can any Scientist be so bold to claim they know what would happen 100 million from now in a world such as are's where everything is so unpredictable?

Any Scientist making claims such as these is completely full of shit.

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Alexander Fefelov, a senior spokesman for the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, said that planet Earth would have its magnetic and geographic poles relocated during the upcoming years.
 Quoting: dc 1219276

Yay, more physical poleshift bullshit.
“Planet Earth on the orbit is a round object in weightlessness. The planet may suddenly change its axial inclination from time to time.
 Quoting: dc

LOL, someone doesn't know basic physics. Weightlessness does not affect inertia or mass. The amount of force required to change the planet's axial tilt significantly, let alone by 30 degrees, is truly staggering.
Archeologists still uncover animals with indigested herbal food in their stomachs, which means that the animals died as a result of fast freezing, so to speak,” the scientist said.
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No, that does not mean they died by freezing, in fact it's consistent with preservation via landslides of mud followed by freezing within the tundra. Earth's climate does not maintain a constant temperature. In fact, the famous Berezovka mammoth was buried in a landslide, indeed it was putrified when it was uncovered, yet grasses were still recovered from its gut from a time when they were plentiful in that location.
"When one looked at the body one had the impression that it must have suddenly fallen into an unexpected fissure in the ice, which it probably came across in its wanderings, and which may have been covered with a layer of plant-bearing mould. After its fall the unlucky animal must have tried to get out of its hopeless position, for the right forefoot was doubled up and the left stretched forward as if it had struggled to rise. But its strength had apparently not been up to it, for when we dug it out still farther we found that in its fall it had not only broken several bones, but had been almost completely buried by the falls of earth which tumbled in on it, so that it had suffocated."
-Siberian Man and Mammoth by E. W. Pfizenmayer
Who needs more proof - should go to look somewhere else. Perhaps outside this box and the telescope!
 Quoting: dc

Why should I look somewhere else when it tells me quite clearly that nothing is out of place?
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Are you addmitting it is possible for a pole reversal event?
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Stop putting words in my mouth. I'm asking you to support your claim, it's not my job to do it for you. I'm already well aware that physical pole flips do not happen in the absence of planet-shattering collisions, the kind you might find in the early solar system, but if such a thing had happened in the past it would have extinguished all life on earth, period, and it would have left a tell-tale sign of our diurnal rotation being opposite of most planets in the solar system. I don't swallow your bullshit which is why I'm telling you to support it with evidence yourself.
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Alexander Fefelov, a senior spokesman for the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, said that planet Earth would have its magnetic and geographic poles relocated during the upcoming years.

Yay, more physical poleshift bullshit.
 Quoting: Astronut

sockpuppet

Do we all need more proof that you are nothing more but a troll?! Think not.

so I won't feedtroll and you stay away and quote those who are in you league! The tely club
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Do we all need more proof that you are nothing more but a troll?! Think not.
 Quoting: dc 1219276

Anyone who thinks physical poleshift claims are bullshit is a troll? Interesting way to ignore anyone who doesn't agree with you.
you stay away and quote those who are in you league! The tely club
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No, I'll continue quoting whoever I want. That's the beauty of an open forum.
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Alexander Fefelov, a senior spokesman for the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, said that planet Earth would have its magnetic and geographic poles relocated during the upcoming years.

Yay, more physical poleshift bullshit.
sockpuppet

Do we all need more proof that you are nothing more but a troll?! Think not.

so I won't feedtroll and you stay away and quote those who are in you league! The tely club
 Quoting: dc 1219276

You can thank me for the telescope club sticking on you LOL. The shift may be survivable too by the way.
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But the NMP drifts from year to year as geophysical processes within Earth change.

[link to www.scientificamerican.com]
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finally, someone on GLP who is not a total idiot!
ive been telling people this forever.
nobody listens.
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You can thank me for the telescope club sticking on you LOL. The shift may be survivable too by the way.
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Don't know what to thank you for scratching

Of course that the shift may be survivable.

It was before it will be in the future!
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But the NMP drifts from year to year as geophysical processes within Earth change.

[link to www.scientificamerican.com]


finally, someone on GLP who is not a total idiot!
ive been telling people this forever.
nobody listens.
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Finally :rollingeyes:

As long as it comes from scientific american, than is OK.

But please pay attention;
According to some recent models, plumes of less dense fluid form at the inner core boundary and subsequently rise within [a cylinder] whose central axis is the Earth’s rotation axis. Such plumes undergo a strong helical motion due to the Earth’s rapid rotation, a phenomenon also observed in laboratory experiments with water. In the core, helical plumes advect and twist the magnetic field lines, forming what scientists call "polar magnetic upwellings."

in other words - they still know shit about it!

and again, from another source (which some do not recognize because it's coming from Russia, but forgeting that without Russia they will now stay at home with their broken spaceshit shuttles)

The displacement of poles can result in the disappearance of the atmosphere, which in its turn will cool the planet to 273 degrees below zero Centigrade. The biosphere of the planet will virtually be killed in this case; only those located close to the Earth’s axis will survive the disaster.

Doctor of Physical and Mathematic Sciences, Vladimir Kuznetsov, said that planet Earth had experienced 16 polar displacements in 4 million years. “There is no chance that the Earth’s magnetic field will disappear. The planet will always have the radiation shield. Even a possible change of the poles will not be able to make the magnetic field vanish. The planet will not be frozen. The geomagnetic field does change, but it is not dangerous. Even if the poles drift hundreds of kilometers away, there will be no threat to humanity posed.

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Who cares what people are speculating in this thread or how some act as if they know exactly what will or will not happen. Bottom line is this:

Nat Geo said the last full reversal was 780,000 years ago.

So, NOBODY ALIVE TODAY has more than a guess- based on our current, limited, changing-every-day science- as to what exactly is happening. So everyone is free to speculate all they want because NOBODY actually knows what to expect, how fast it happens for sure, whether it will accelerate 40 miles/year one year then 100 the next- we have no freaking clue. Anyone claiming it can't happen is full of it because it can (proven by past records), it has before (proven) and NOBODY ALIVE TODAY WAS ALIVE THEN TO WITNESS THE LAST ONE.
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Unless you were alive back then OR or science is all knowing (and it's NOT) then nobody can make claims about what IS happening or what MAY happen...we're all in the dark, just guessing, including scientists. Those who think otherwise are running off of know-it-all ego and are no different than those who claimed at one time that the earth was flat. We may be watching something unfold we've never seen before, instead of acting like a fool who claims to know it all maybe sit back and try to learn along with the rest of us. Nobody knows anything for sure if weren't alive then, have zero written evidence about the last time and all we have to go by are studying thin layers of rocks which is far from being an exact science.

[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
The shift is likely a normal oscillation of the Earth's magnetic field, Stoner said, and not the beginning of a flip-flop of the north and south magnetic poles, a phenomenon that last occurred 780,000 years ago.
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Hi it is Txheat from Voice chat, I am pretty sure this confirms my theory on why the Fish and birds are dying. Being that they do not know where to migrate anymroe because of a pole shift. So they are dying of cold weather but they can not help it happening because they do not know other places to go.
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NASA info.

[link to www.nasa.gov]
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Thanks,sweet info.
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Why would anyone want to waste their time bothering to show you?

That tells me there is no statistically significant correlation, certainly none that you're capable of showing.
 Quoting: Astronut



Why waste your time with facts and figures, mathematical evidence, and logical reasoning? When you can just categorically deny whatever evidence undermines your self-fulfilling fear/faith/ascension-based beliefs. Science is just a bunch of theories, like gravity and nuke-u-ler energy. Or as the great war President George W. Bush once said, "The facts may change, but my beliefs never will".
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You can thank me for the telescope club sticking on you LOL.
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You seem to think it's a clever insult. You can go on thinking that for all I care. It's as idiotic as "insulting" me by calling an "amateur backyard astronomer." So please, by all means, continue to show your ignorance by attacking me for being in a "telescope club."
The shift may be survivable too by the way.
 Quoting: AC

Earth's rotational energy is 2.1 x 10^29 joules. To flip it over you'd have to apply a large fraction of that number, which itself is about 100 million times the entire nuclear arsenal present on earth. Let's figure out just how much you need though:

The 2010 earthquake in Chile shifted our axis by an undetectable 2.7 milliarcseconds. The energy in that quake was 238 megatons or 1.00x10^18 Joules. To shift the earth 180 degrees would require an energy output of about 6.48x10^26 Joules (1.55x10^11 megatons). That's ten thousand times the energy of the asteroid impact believed to have killed the dinosaurs. The global nuclear arsenal is about 5000 megatons. You're therefore talking about energy equivalent of 31 million times the global nuclear arsenal. That is not survivable.
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Why would anyone want to waste their time bothering to show you?

That tells me there is no statistically significant correlation, certainly none that you're capable of showing.



Why waste your time with facts and figures, mathematical evidence, and logical reasoning? When you can just categorically deny whatever evidence undermines your self-fulfilling fear/faith/ascension-based beliefs. Science is just a bunch of theories, like gravity and nuke-u-ler energy. Or as the great war President George W. Bush once said, "The facts may change, but my beliefs never will".
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Astronut fucking u guys up with some damn truth. Notice how all the idiots shutup when presented with actual scientific facts

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