BREAKING: Shift of Earth's magnetic north pole impacts Tampa airport!

Had some trouble with my digital GPS compass yesterday - it could not locate north correctly.

Anyone else had the same things?

Perhaps I should have been more specific; I'm asking for a correlation analysis showing a significant correlation between pole reversals and extinction events. Here is a list of geomagnetic pole flips in millions of years, I can find no significant correlation to recent extinction events:
0.78
0.9
1.06
1.19
1.78
2
2.08
2.14
2.59
3.05
3.12
3.22
3.33
3.59
4.17
4.29
4.47
4.64
4.81
4.89
5.01
5.25

Yeah I've landed on that runway about 50 times..

Its called magnetic deviation and its been going on for millions of years.

It will hit a point though when it will start to slide at a very fast rate. We are juuuust about there. We are way overdue.

This is more evidence of Global Warming® ...of course.

This is better proof that we are doomed.

That tells me there is no statistically significant correlation, certainly none that you're capable of showing.

Ditto for me AstroNut.I really enjoy your posts.

whatever. how's this?, it started 2000 yrs ago.


anyway..this thinking comes from the old theories that everything goes slooooooooowwwwww..which has been proven wrong over and over..but you know, it takes awhile for boxheads and sheeple to change their thinking..

and then you also have scientists saying,"it wont happen for another 100 to 1 million" just as long as its beyond their lifetime..scared little shits, arent they?

Are you addmitting it is possible for a pole reversal event? .Extinction events all set aside.
Did you look into core samples?
Maybe you should point your telescope down and see whats there

This is key here.

Yes, we began going in the wrong direction 2000 years ago.

The time has come to make things right again.



Lol.

Yes indeed.

Science isn't what it used to be.

That's for certain.

How can any Scientist be so bold to claim they know what would happen 100 million from now in a world such as are's where everything is so unpredictable?

Any Scientist making claims such as these is completely full of shit.

~Zeus

Yay, more physical poleshift bullshit.

LOL, someone doesn't know basic physics. Weightlessness does not affect inertia or mass. The amount of force required to change the planet's axial tilt significantly, let alone by 30 degrees, is truly staggering.

No, that does not mean they died by freezing, in fact it's consistent with preservation via landslides of mud followed by freezing within the tundra. Earth's climate does not maintain a constant temperature. In fact, the famous Berezovka mammoth was buried in a landslide, indeed it was putrified when it was uncovered, yet grasses were still recovered from its gut from a time when they were plentiful in that location.
"When one looked at the body one had the impression that it must have suddenly fallen into an unexpected fissure in the ice, which it probably came across in its wanderings, and which may have been covered with a layer of plant-bearing mould. After its fall the unlucky animal must have tried to get out of its hopeless position, for the right forefoot was doubled up and the left stretched forward as if it had struggled to rise. But its strength had apparently not been up to it, for when we dug it out still farther we found that in its fall it had not only broken several bones, but had been almost completely buried by the falls of earth which tumbled in on it, so that it had suffocated."
-Siberian Man and Mammoth by E. W. Pfizenmayer

Why should I look somewhere else when it tells me quite clearly that nothing is out of place?

Stop putting words in my mouth. I'm asking you to support your claim, it's not my job to do it for you. I'm already well aware that physical pole flips do not happen in the absence of planet-shattering collisions, the kind you might find in the early solar system, but if such a thing had happened in the past it would have extinguished all life on earth, period, and it would have left a tell-tale sign of our diurnal rotation being opposite of most planets in the solar system. I don't swallow your bullshit which is why I'm telling you to support it with evidence yourself.

Do we all need more proof that you are nothing more but a troll?! Think not.

so I won't and you stay away and quote those who are in you league! The tely club

Anyone who thinks physical poleshift claims are bullshit is a troll? Interesting way to ignore anyone who doesn't agree with you.

No, I'll continue quoting whoever I want. That's the beauty of an open forum.

You can thank me for the telescope club sticking on you LOL. The shift may be survivable too by the way.

finally, someone on GLP who is not a total idiot!
ive been telling people this forever.
nobody listens.

Don't know what to thank you for

Of course that the shift may be survivable.

It was before it will be in the future!

Finally :rollingeyes:

As long as it comes from scientific american, than is OK.

But please pay attention;
According to some recent models, plumes of less dense fluid form at the inner core boundary and subsequently rise within [a cylinder] whose central axis is the Earth’s rotation axis. Such plumes undergo a strong helical motion due to the Earth’s rapid rotation, a phenomenon also observed in laboratory experiments with water. In the core, helical plumes advect and twist the magnetic field lines, forming what scientists call "polar magnetic upwellings."

in other words - they still know shit about it!

and again, from another source (which some do not recognize because it's coming from Russia, but forgeting that without Russia they will now stay at home with their broken spaceshit shuttles)

The displacement of poles can result in the disappearance of the atmosphere, which in its turn will cool the planet to 273 degrees below zero Centigrade. The biosphere of the planet will virtually be killed in this case; only those located close to the Earth’s axis will survive the disaster.

Doctor of Physical and Mathematic Sciences, Vladimir Kuznetsov, said that planet Earth had experienced 16 polar displacements in 4 million years. “There is no chance that the Earth’s magnetic field will disappear. The planet will always have the radiation shield. Even a possible change of the poles will not be able to make the magnetic field vanish. The planet will not be frozen. The geomagnetic field does change, but it is not dangerous. Even if the poles drift hundreds of kilometers away, there will be no threat to humanity posed.

:dubya:

Who cares what people are speculating in this thread or how some act as if they know exactly what will or will not happen. Bottom line is this:



Unless you were alive back then OR or science is all knowing (and it's NOT) then nobody can make claims about what IS happening or what MAY happen...we're all in the dark, just guessing, including scientists. Those who think otherwise are running off of know-it-all ego and are no different than those who claimed at one time that the earth was flat. We may be watching something unfold we've never seen before, instead of acting like a fool who claims to know it all maybe sit back and try to learn along with the rest of us. Nobody knows anything for sure if weren't alive then, have zero written evidence about the last time and all we have to go by are studying thin layers of rocks which is far from being an exact science.

[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
The shift is likely a normal oscillation of the Earth's magnetic field, Stoner said, and not the beginning of a flip-flop of the north and south magnetic poles, a phenomenon that last occurred 780,000 years ago.

Hi it is Txheat from Voice chat, I am pretty sure this confirms my theory on why the Fish and birds are dying. Being that they do not know where to migrate anymroe because of a pole shift. So they are dying of cold weather but they can not help it happening because they do not know other places to go.

Thanks,sweet info.

Why waste your time with facts and figures, mathematical evidence, and logical reasoning? When you can just categorically deny whatever evidence undermines your self-fulfilling fear/faith/ascension-based beliefs. Science is just a bunch of theories, like gravity and nuke-u-ler energy. Or as the great war President George W. Bush once said, "The facts may change, but my beliefs never will".

You seem to think it's a clever insult. You can go on thinking that for all I care. It's as idiotic as "insulting" me by calling an "amateur backyard astronomer." So please, by all means, continue to show your ignorance by attacking me for being in a "telescope club."

Earth's rotational energy is 2.1 x 10^29 joules. To flip it over you'd have to apply a large fraction of that number, which itself is about 100 million times the entire nuclear arsenal present on earth. Let's figure out just how much you need though:

The 2010 earthquake in Chile shifted our axis by an undetectable 2.7 milliarcseconds. The energy in that quake was 238 megatons or 1.00x10^18 Joules. To shift the earth 180 degrees would require an energy output of about 6.48x10^26 Joules (1.55x10^11 megatons). That's ten thousand times the energy of the asteroid impact believed to have killed the dinosaurs. The global nuclear arsenal is about 5000 megatons. You're therefore talking about energy equivalent of 31 million times the global nuclear arsenal. That is not survivable.

fireworks

trucks

Astronut fucking u guys up with some damn truth. Notice how all the idiots shutup when presented with actual scientific facts

Science can do this:

Test known equations.

If science can't test for it, then it must not exist.

Until science can test for it.

Therefor

Science cannot answer every question.
It can only formulate answers for data known.




Science IS faith based.

Faith that your test now, won't fail in the future. Hence forming a theory. We have many scientific theories, that have survived due to our not being able to challenge it with our KNOWN current knowledge / test.

If there is a test devised in the future, that disproves that theory, then a new one is made. The joy of science.

So to say that it is not possible due to the laws of physics.
Is to purpose that our laws of physics aren't just theories, that haven't been disproved.

The future does this wonderful thing for science. Introduces new scientific fact to adjust our proven theories, of dis-proven theories.


The future could produce an event that produces enough force to fit your mathematical equation.

The joy of it is you don't know.

i agree that science has become religious to many

the leaders of science are people dressed in those white coats called scientists and instead of the people investigating themselves they must always get their truths from scientists

The series BBC ATOM - Key to the cosmos is an awesome series that touches on the scientific process of ever change and discard of disproved scientific thought that was once held on to be the only proof.


The series ends in the highlight that we don't know shit.

[link to www.youtube.com]

We've only begun to dig deep.

LOL, sorry but that is funny.




There is much more energy in the solar system and galaxy than ten thousand times the energy of the asteroid impact believed to have killed the dinosaurs. Obviously a terrestrial energy would have a hard time impacting a geographic shift of the polls. We can only see a portion of what is out there in the heavens with our tools. It is fun to speculate on that unknown. You should let folks enjoy it from time to time.

The claim was that it was a survivable event. It is not. Please do show us verifiable evidence that something is about to hit the earth with that level of force, otherwise there is literally no reason to believe it. It's an incredible claim requiring extraordinary proof.