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BREAKING: Shift of Earth's magnetic north pole impacts Tampa airport!

 
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Science can do this:

Test known equations.

If science can't test for it, then it must not exist.

Until science can test for it.

Therefor

Science cannot answer every question.
It can only formulate answers for data known.




Science IS faith based.

Faith that your test now, won't fail in the future. Hence forming a theory. We have many scientific theories, that have survived due to our not being able to challenge it with our KNOWN current knowledge / test.

If there is a test devised in the future, that disproves that theory, then a new one is made. The joy of science.

So to say that it is not possible due to the laws of physics.
Is to purpose that our laws of physics aren't just theories, that haven't been disproved.

The future does this wonderful thing for science. Introduces new scientific fact to adjust our proven theories, of dis-proven theories.


The future could produce an event that produces enough force to fit your mathematical equation.

The joy of it is you don't know.
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i agree that science has become religious to many

the leaders of science are people dressed in those white coats called scientists and instead of the people investigating themselves they must always get their truths from scientists
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The series BBC ATOM - Key to the cosmos is an awesome series that touches on the scientific process of ever change and discard of disproved scientific thought that was once held on to be the only proof.


The series ends in the highlight that we don't know shit.

[link to www.youtube.com]

We've only begun to dig deep.
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So please, by all means, continue to show your ignorance by attacking me for being in a "telescope club."

 Quoting: Astronut

LOL, sorry but that is funny.


The 2010 earthquake in Chile shifted our axis by an undetectable 2.7 milliarcseconds. The energy in that quake was 238 megatons or 1.00x10^18 Joules. To shift the earth 180 degrees would require an energy output of about 6.48x10^26 Joules (1.55x10^11 megatons). That's ten thousand times the energy of the asteroid impact believed to have killed the dinosaurs. The global nuclear arsenal is about 5000 megatons. You're therefore talking about energy equivalent of 31 million times the global nuclear arsenal. That is not survivable.
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There is much more energy in the solar system and galaxy than ten thousand times the energy of the asteroid impact believed to have killed the dinosaurs. Obviously a terrestrial energy would have a hard time impacting a geographic shift of the polls. We can only see a portion of what is out there in the heavens with our tools. It is fun to speculate on that unknown. You should let folks enjoy it from time to time.
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The future could produce an event that produces enough force to fit your mathematical equation.
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The claim was that it was a survivable event. It is not. Please do show us verifiable evidence that something is about to hit the earth with that level of force, otherwise there is literally no reason to believe it. It's an incredible claim requiring extraordinary proof.
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There is much more energy in the solar system and galaxy than ten thousand times the energy of the asteroid impact believed to have killed the dinosaurs.
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Please show verifiable proof that something is about to hit the earth with that level of force. Again, it's like you're not even paying attention to the claim that calculation was refuting. I was specifically addressing the question of survivability, and the answer is that it is not survivable at all. If you think that that level of force is about to hit the earth, then by all means, present verifiable evidence, coordinates, or an orbit for an object that is about to do just such a thing to the earth. Of course this leads to the question of "Nibiru," which has already been debunked because it simply doesn't exist. If it did it would already be having impacts on the positions of the outer planets and it would already have to be well within the inner solar system.

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here you go asking for "Proof"

for a future unknown event. that goes against your known.

e.g.

something that hasn't happened before.
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survivable is a term that can have different meanings.


If i was on a space ship when this "force event" occurred.

I would survive. Hence it's survivable.
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If we gahter all info sources together we may find out for sure that mass deaths are just a part of a more global picture yet to come.
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There is much more energy in the solar system and galaxy than ten thousand times the energy of the asteroid impact believed to have killed the dinosaurs.

Please show verifiable proof that something is about to hit the earth with that level of force. Again, it's like you're not even paying attention to the claim that calculation was refuting. I was specifically addressing the question of survivability, and the answer is that it is not survivable at all. If you think that that level of force is about to hit the earth, then by all means, present verifiable evidence, coordinates, or an orbit for an object that is about to do just such a thing to the earth. Of course this leads to the question of "Nibiru," which has already been debunked because it simply doesn't exist. If it did it would already be having impacts on the positions of the outer planets and it would already have to be well within the inner solar system.


wtf is this shill is talking about. What the fuck nibiru has to do with this thread!?!

HELLO WAKE UP you're dreming darling WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!

And READ with sense. whatever
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here you go asking for "Proof"

for a future unknown event. that goes against your known.
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Yes, I'm asking for proof that an object is about to subject the earth to that level of force. Such an object would have to be extremely massive making it quite hard to miss.
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wtf is this shill is talking about. What the fuck nibiru has to do with this thread!?!
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If you're going to claim that a physical pole shift is pending, then it's going to take "Nibiru" to explain where all that energy comes from.
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survivable is a term that can have different meanings.


If i was on a space ship when this "force event" occurred.

I would survive. Hence it's survivable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1219721

"Survivable" doesn't mean you remove yourself from the situation altogether and, no surprise, you survive, yet that's exactly what you're doing in your example. It's like saying a nose dive with a 747 straight into the ground at maximum velocity is survivable... because you're not on the plane when it crashes.

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That's assuming it has to be an object that fits our scientific view for force output.


What if it is an event/object/possibility, that produces force. In a manner which we haven't observed and recorded?


which you're ruling out, which makes me sad, because you seem to be in the science field.


the UNKNOWN cannot be factored into proof, for a possible future.


SO to say it CANNOT happen.

is like a bible thumper grasping to his book of facts.


Science is dynamic and ever changing due to new discovers of unknown events/data...
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wtf is this shill is talking about. What the fuck nibiru has to do with this thread!?!

If you're going to claim that a physical pole shift is pending, then it's going to take "Nibiru" to explain where all that energy comes from.
 Quoting: Astronut


You don't know what are talking about! You're lost in your imaginations. And I 'smell' sneaky way to turn this thread into your 'waters' where you can talk about objects seen through your telescope. Sorry bye bye go and search for the word nibiru - THIS IS NOT here. Capish?

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Ok i'll survive with in your example.


I have a force field that protects me from your force.


Oh wait you'll say we can't have force fields due to our knowledge of gravity.


Which is further dependent on our now known science.
Discounting change/evolution/unknown/chaos.
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birds and fish death are from methane released from crevicess in earth, due to increased plate movements, fault lines coming apart
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This is just what I was thinking... I even said it to my mom when I was talking to her on the phone yesterday. The reason it came to me was because of a video I was watching that has to do with theories on why the Bermuda Triangle is responsible for so many plane & ship disappearances... same thing -- methane. Birds lose buoyancy & plummet and fish suffocate & die.
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There is much more energy in the solar system and galaxy than ten thousand times the energy of the asteroid impact believed to have killed the dinosaurs.


Since God is a god, that means he's eternal and infinite. Which means the Universe is infinite. Which means all that it contains is infinite. And since the Universe contains sharp cheddar cheese, that means there is an infinite amount of sharp cheddar cheese in the Universe. And since anything is possible, that means it is absolutely possible that a block of sharp cheddar cheese the size of our entire Solar System is RIGHT NOW hurtling towards Earth at the speed of light. PROVE IT'S NOT TRUE SHILL !!
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very interesting story!
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That's assuming it has to be an object that fits our scientific view for force output.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1219721

Handwaving to "magic."
What if it is an event/object/possibility, that produces force. In a manner which we haven't observed and recorded?
 Quoting: AC

Again, you're handwaving to "magic," you're not putting forward a shred of credible or verifiable evidence or even speculation. What if superman shows up and flips the planet with super powers, that's the level of your claim.
which you're ruling out, which makes me sad, because you seem to be in the science field.
 Quoting: AC

You don't even seem to understand what science is, you're clearly only interested in pseudoscience.
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Ok i'll survive with in your example.


I have a force field that protects me from your force.
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More handwaving to magic bullshit.
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birds and fish death are from methane released from crevicess in earth, due to increased plate movements, fault lines coming apart


This is just what I was thinking... I even said it to my mom when I was talking to her on the phone yesterday. The reason it came to me was because of a video I was watching that has to do with theories on why the Bermuda Triangle is responsible for so many plane & ship disappearances... same thing -- methane. Birds lose buoyancy & plummet and fish suffocate & die.
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ME TOO. Glad to see others voice this... what I still don't get is why the birds were flying at night, but that's another post...

But THIS STORY, here and now, pole shift, is ALSO EXTREMELY SIGNIFICANT.

I don't know WHERE, but I have heard tell that in northeastern Oregon there is a spot that geologists have been measuring for pole shift. And they have seen it too... the question is whether they see it as fast as this article claims. I believe this was told to me by an academic, and as such, is probably not widely circulated information.
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Hahahah

the unknown is magic.

LOL

you clearly know nothing of science and its possibilities.
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You don't know what are talking about! You're lost in your imaginations. And I 'smell' sneaky way to turn this thread into your 'waters' where you can talk about objects seen through your telescope.
 Quoting: dc 1219276

If you have a more credible idea for how such a level of force could be imparted to the earth, then by all means let's hear it. So far all I've seen is handwaving to magic. "Something happens that violates what we know about science." Well, I don't believe in magic, but if something is going to violate the laws of physics in that manner I'm open to evidence showing that it will. Instead the evidence shows that the pole is right where it should be and there's no reason to think that will change. It's literally as likely as superman showing up and changing it.
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hahaha

The laws of science are various established scientific laws, or physical laws as they are sometimes called, that are considered universal and invariable facts of the physical universe. Laws of science may, however, be disproved if new facts or evidence contradicts them


What if new facts and evidence presents itself, that hasn't previously.


You're saying that can't happen and it magic.
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Whoa!

The Federal Aviation Administration required the runway designation change to account for what a National Geographic News report described as a gradual shift of the Earth's magnetic pole at nearly 40 miles a year toward Russia because of magnetic changes in the core of the planet.

Yes but it changes every year
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putin


Honestly there are no words...
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Let's talk about science here.

Richard A. Lovett in San Francisco

for National Geographic News

December 24, 2009

Earth's north magnetic pole is racing toward Russia at almost 40 miles (64 kilometers) a year due to magnetic changes in the planet's core, new research says.

The core is too deep for scientists to directly detect its magnetic field. But researchers can infer the field's movements by tracking how Earth's magnetic field has been changing at the surface and in space.

Now, newly analyzed data suggest that there's a region of rapidly changing magnetism on the core's surface, possibly being created by a mysterious "plume" of magnetism arising from deeper in the core.

And it's this region that could be pulling the magnetic pole away from its long-time location in northern Canada, said Arnaud Chulliat, a geophysicist at the Institut de Physique du Globe de Paris in France.

Finding North

Magnetic north, which is the place where compass needles actually point, is near but not exactly in the same place as the geographic North Pole. Right now, magnetic north is close to Canada's Ellesmere Island.

Navigators have used magnetic north for centuries to orient themselves when they're far from recognizable landmarks.

Although global positioning systems have largely replaced such traditional techniques, many people still find compasses useful for getting around underwater and underground where GPS satellites can't communicate.

The magnetic north pole had moved little from the time scientists first located it in 1831. Then in 1904, the pole began shifting northeastward at a steady pace of about 9 miles (15 kilometers) a year.

In 1989 it sped up again, and in 2007 scientists confirmed that the pole is now galloping toward Siberia at 34 to 37 miles (55 to 60 kilometers) a year.

A rapidly shifting magnetic pole means that magnetic-field maps need to be updated more often to allow compass users to make the crucial adjustment from magnetic north to true North.

Wandering Pole

Geologists think Earth has a magnetic field because the core is made up of a solid iron center surrounded by rapidly spinning liquid metal. This creates a "dynamo" that drives our magnetic field.

Scientists had long suspected that, since the molten core is constantly moving, changes in its magnetism might be affecting the surface location of magnetic north.

Although the new research seems to back up this idea, Chulliat is not ready to say whether magnetic north will eventually cross into Russia.

"It's too difficult to forecast," Chulliat said.

Also, nobody knows when another change in the core might pop up elsewhere, sending magnetic north wandering in a new direction.

Chulliat presented his work this week at a meeting of the American Geophysical Union in San Francisco.

And THAT is science. Is it correct? Who knows!
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Hahahah

the unknown is magic.

LOL
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No, what you're describing is magic and trying to label it as just simply "the unknown." You know what I see when I see you do that? I see you expose the fact that you are desperate to invent an excuse by which this ridiculous claim could happen. Being open to the unknown means being willing to follow the evidence wherever it leads, it does not mean handwaving to magical excuses to try to keep absolute bullshit afloat.
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What if new facts and evidence presents itself, that hasn't previously.
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Then present these new facts and evidence. Otherwise you're just handwaving to magic to keep your bullshit afloat.
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Hahahah

the unknown is magic.

LOL

No, what you're describing is magic and trying to label it as just simply "the unknown." You know what I see when I see you do that? I see you expose the fact that you are desperate to invent an excuse by which this ridiculous claim could happen. Being open to the unknown means being willing to follow the evidence wherever it leads, it does not mean handwaving to magical excuses to try to keep absolute bullshit afloat.
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Hmm I don't believe in magic.

I believe in new evidence presenting itself that hasn't before, which pushes science to a new paradigm.

I'm not simply shrugging off a Hypothesis because there isn't evidence to support them yet.

In science, we form a hypothesis, perform tests to prove disprove the hypothesis.

If no test can be derived to test the hypothesis:

1. We don't have the means currently to derive a test.
2. At that point it is determined untestable and "false"

should Evidence present itself

We revisit and revise hypothesis to form theory.

You're saying there is no possibility of unknown evidence presenting itself.

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