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BREAKING: Shift of Earth's magnetic north pole impacts Tampa airport!

 
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My Dad would always have his bed placed in such a way that his head was North.

I wished I had asked why ....



Some people claim to sleep better that way. Something to do with being in alignment with the poles/magfields.
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No shit!!

I pulled my tomato plants and all the roots went north direction. Just yesterday I learned water exposed to the positive pole of a magnet makes it grow faster and healthier at magnetage.com under magnetic water section.

I to of wondered if sleeping direction makes a difference.
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If you're "thinking for yourself" about "physical pole shifts" but you're not doing any of those "evil calculations" then you're not going to get very far in finding out the truth. Suit yourself though, no one forced you to read my posts or reply to them.
 Quoting: Astronut


I admit I was always a looser in math in school and I hated it.

Today there are theories about the universe which are not mathematically proved (not yet). This great american scientist who proved the antimatter particles couldn't even explain his own math.

I think the deeper you dive into the truth the more and more the boundary of math and belief is blurry.

We are at the beginning. The fact that an empty vacuum contains energy, action, and intelligence (if you don't like the word it is ok), points to something much bigger than what can be explained with math and "tests". And maybe it can be explained with mathematical equations but at one point in time math will loose its meaning because those things you grasp with you spiritual mind and not with a piece of paper and a pen.
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Also at magnetage.com they say magnets also lose their charge. Is earth?
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I disagree. I think it advanced the subject, though perhaps not in the way you would have liked. Math is the language of science. How dare someone use it.

True, I personnaly like to read your threads.


But the Mayas were able to put up a calender predicting solar cycles, eclipses and they weren't for sure no mathematic geniuses.

There is in my eyes more to it than mathematic.
 Quoting: ^àTOn^

Quite the contrary, the Maya had their own system of mathematics, a base 20 system, and by carefully arranging the segments of time they used they could roughly calculate astronomical events without needing to use fractions:
[link to tribes.tribe.net]
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I found this artical from July 2009....


Stansted Airport in Essex has renamed its 3,000m (9,750ft) runway because the position of the Earth's magnetic North Pole has moved.

The runway was known by pilots and air traffic controllers as 23/05 because of its location and compass heading.

The magnetic North Pole drifts naturally, and every 50 years its position alters significantly.



[link to news.bbc.co.uk]
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You can thank me for the telescope club sticking on you LOL.

You seem to think it's a clever insult. You can go on thinking that for all I care. It's as idiotic as "insulting" me by calling an "amateur backyard astronomer." So please, by all means, continue to show your ignorance by attacking me for being in a "telescope club."

The shift may be survivable too by the way.

Earth's rotational energy is 2.1 x 10^29 joules. To flip it over you'd have to apply a large fraction of that number, which itself is about 100 million times the entire nuclear arsenal present on earth. Let's figure out just how much you need though:

The 2010 earthquake in Chile shifted our axis by an undetectable 2.7 milliarcseconds. The energy in that quake was 238 megatons or 1.00x10^18 Joules. To shift the earth 180 degrees would require an energy output of about 6.48x10^26 Joules (1.55x10^11 megatons). That's ten thousand times the energy of the asteroid impact believed to have killed the dinosaurs. The global nuclear arsenal is about 5000 megatons. You're therefore talking about energy equivalent of 31 million times the global nuclear arsenal. That is not survivable.
 Quoting: Astronut



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I found this website with a lot of information about the airports changing their runways.It seems that they anticipated having to change just not this soon.

[link to www.airliners.net]
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There it is, in your face.
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Quite the contrary, the Maya had their own system of mathematics, a base 20 system, and by carefully arranging the segments of time they used they could roughly calculate astronomical events without needing to use fractions:
[link to tribes.tribe.net]
 Quoting: Astronut


True, and I am not at all against the scientific comunity nor am I against math. Quite the contrary: the advances made in the last century are amazing and the discoveries make your head turn.

The consequences of these discoveries though open up a world, if you think about it, where still one day maybe you can explain it in math formulas but you can never test it.

The only way to do some "tests" is to find beings living in an energy life form who are ready to share their being with you. And still after, putting this into math is quite hard.

Did you know that there are books written in the 18th century which describe in detail the physical advancemement of our scientific comunity ? Did you know that there are beings living on the sun ? Read Lorber. If you are a researcher he might give you some ideas.

peace
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[link to tribes.tribe.net]

Interesting read. Why don't we use the mayan way to calculate as an alternative system ? Seems that the results are slightly not the same with our gregorian way ?
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...

agreed, although I would not call it stupidity, just lack of knowledge. As a pilot this is something I have to deal with constantly, dealing with magnetic variation

Wow, you're a pilot too Janey? Which types of aircraft are you certified for? Just curious.


sorry for the late reply, I just saw your question. Yes, I learnt to fly whilst in the Police/security services. Hence working as a military/aviation journalist since leaving the services. I am currently qualified on the Boeing 737/747/757 and 767
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Wow! That's very, very cool!
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I admit I was always a looser in math in school and I hated it.

Today there are theories about the universe which are not mathematically proved (not yet). This great american scientist who proved the antimatter particles couldn't even explain his own math.

I think the deeper you dive into the truth the more and more the boundary of math and belief is blurry.

We are at the beginning. The fact that an empty vacuum contains energy, action, and intelligence (if you don't like the word it is ok), points to something much bigger than what can be explained with math and "tests". And maybe it can be explained with mathematical equations but at one point in time math will loose its meaning because those things you grasp with you spiritual mind and not with a piece of paper and a pen.
 Quoting: ^àTOn^

+1
"We don't inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children"--Native-American proverb

People were created to be loved while things were created to be used. The reason the world is in chaos is that, things are being loved and people are being used

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yea sure and all that water in australia is also BS ah?



Source: [link to www2.tbo.com]

TAMPA - Scientists say the magnetic north pole is moving toward Russia and the fallout has reached -- of all places -- Tampa International Airport.

bsflag
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I must confess i luv my daily doses of doom etc, but having been in aviation for over 25 yrs, pilots, air traffic contollers and virtually everyone associated with airport operations all know that the compass re-designation of the runways happens at airports around the world, and has been ongoing for years and years and in itself, is not unusual at all. My point is that all this doom is a little missleading and shouldn't be "sold" as it is, Periodicaly it must be done when there is enough change to the magnetic north to keep navagation safe etc. The way this article "sells it" makes it sound like ......OMG .....DOOM !! DOOM!! Geesh :-|
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You know that that peace thing like this does not mean peace it means death :) it should be upside down.

most people dont know that

Quite the contrary, the Maya had their own system of mathematics, a base 20 system, and by carefully arranging the segments of time they used they could roughly calculate astronomical events without needing to use fractions:
[link to tribes.tribe.net]


True, and I am not at all against the scientific comunity nor am I against math. Quite the contrary: the advances made in the last century are amazing and the discoveries make your head turn.

The consequences of these discoveries though open up a world, if you think about it, where still one day maybe you can explain it in math formulas but you can never test it.

The only way to do some "tests" is to find beings living in an energy life form who are ready to share their being with you. And still after, putting this into math is quite hard.

Did you know that there are books written in the 18th century which describe in detail the physical advancemement of our scientific comunity ? Did you know that there are beings living on the sun ? Read Lorber. If you are a researcher he might give you some ideas.

peace
 Quoting: ^àTOn^
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[link to tribes.tribe.net]

Interesting read. Why don't we use the mayan way to calculate as an alternative system ? Seems that the results are slightly not the same with our gregorian way ?
 Quoting: ^àTOn^

Because a base 20 system without fractions isn't as accurate with the kind of rounding they had to do and thus requires correction just to keep it consistent with the observed positions of the planets etc. It simply wouldn't be workable for the kinds of things modern astronomers need to calculate.

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Taken from: Evidence for God
Please explain what is true and what is not, Thx.

Never mind that the next Venetian alignment is actually, on June 5-6, 2012, and that the alignment will produce a gravitational interaction on the order of your neighbor's Toaster Strudel. This is real science, man! The other probable causes of these disasters relate to the earth's precession, a 26,000 year cycle that just happens to coincide with the 12/21/2012 date (how it coincides we aren't sure, but we want to throw it in so that nothing is left out). In addition, our Solar System crosses in and out of the galactic plane every 33 million years. Coincidentally, the Sun will be at the exact center of the galactic plane on December 21, 2012 (or maybe it already happened 3 million years ago - but who's counting). At the same time, there will be a massive pole shift caused by the galactic alignment between the center of the galaxy and the Sun that will cause massive earthquakes, volcanoes, and tsunamis. What fun!
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excellent post and many others on this thread....thanks to all and good luck my friends - we are going to need it.
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Also at magnetage.com they say magnets also lose their charge. Is earth?
 Quoting: Agent 1136764


To get a straight answer,interesting:

[link to www.phy6org]


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Also at magnetage.com they say magnets also lose their charge. Is earth?


To get a straight answer,interesting:

"The exploration of the Earth's magnetosphere"

[link to www.phy6org]


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1187902

hf
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They wont pin this because it actually is real news. Make it up then youll get a pin.
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gwdance
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You can thank me for the telescope club sticking on you LOL.

You seem to think it's a clever insult. You can go on thinking that for all I care. It's as idiotic as "insulting" me by calling an "amateur backyard astronomer." So please, by all means, continue to show your ignorance by attacking me for being in a "telescope club."

The shift may be survivable too by the way.

Earth's rotational energy is 2.1 x 10^29 joules. To flip it over you'd have to apply a large fraction of that number, which itself is about 100 million times the entire nuclear arsenal present on earth. Let's figure out just how much you need though:

The 2010 earthquake in Chile shifted our axis by an undetectable 2.7 milliarcseconds. The energy in that quake was 238 megatons or 1.00x10^18 Joules. To shift the earth 180 degrees would require an energy output of about 6.48x10^26 Joules (1.55x10^11 megatons). That's ten thousand times the energy of the asteroid impact believed to have killed the dinosaurs. The global nuclear arsenal is about 5000 megatons. You're therefore talking about energy equivalent of 31 million times the global nuclear arsenal. That is not survivable.
 Quoting: Astronut



Your talking about surface energy now aren't you, Your own Little quotes about earth spinning should tell you something about physics, Your scientific calculation of energy that is required to shift the earth is so stellar, But how much less energy would be required at the core to achieve the same effects, So what if your wrong.
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yea sure and all that water in australia is also BS ah?





Source: [link to www2.tbo.com]

TAMPA - Scientists say the magnetic north pole is moving toward Russia and the fallout has reached -- of all places -- Tampa International Airport.

bsflag

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bs
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WOW - would like to say PIN but it already is.
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But how much less energy would be required at the core to achieve the same effects
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It wouldn't be less; you'd be applying force from the center of the object instead of at the surface, so it would actually be more if anything. The earth's angular momentum is immense, and a large part of that is going to have to be overcome in order to "pole flip" the earth. There's no getting around it.
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laugh
thank GLP for Astronut
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ASTRONUT OF 13 YEars old... why dont you go hang out somewhere else
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ASTRONUT OF 13 YEars old... why dont you go hang out somewhere else
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Throwing your toys out of the crib and demanding I go "hang out somewhere else" isn't exactly a mature response. You're obviously upset that I debunk bullshit, but your response just makes it all the more worth it. It tells me I'm a threat.
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You guys know nothing about physics nor have a clue about elctromagnetism. The magnetic field around Earth is disrupted all the time from the cosmos, which includes our sun(Normal). Read up on the sun and how it works, dark energy, Einsteins biggest blunder, theory of relativity, electromagnetism, thermodynamics, quantum mechanics, the big rip, oh and be able to explain how matter of the universe works and maybe you can talk! Also, theories are as close to truth as you get in science.
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This thread made it into the news:

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"At the risk of sounding like a moran [sic], is this why the sun is setting in a more south westerly direction as opposed to due west?" asks one poster on the Godlike Productions forum.

At The Truth Behind the Scenes, there's jubilation that the government's evil conspiracy is no longer working: "Finally, something that the government cannot debunk, cover up, twist, or spin! Whatever happens to us, denizens of the planet Earth, the truth will out!"

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