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MAJOR MAGNETOSPHERE DOOM!! HUGE SPIKE IN DENSITY OF THE SOLAR WIND!!!!!!!!1

 
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MAJOR MAGNETOSPHERE DOOM!! HUGE SPIKE IN DENSITY OF THE SOLAR WIND!!!!!!!!1
To quell some fear, about the magnetosphere.

Now Since it got pinned I have to update it. sheesh.

This is from yesterday, There have been questions and a lot of answers to them along with more information during posts throughout the thread, I plead with you to read through it all.

First let me remind you that nict is just a computer generated simulation on the magnetosphere and does not show the actual magnetosphere and is not in 3D.

Now a screenshot [link to www2.nict.go.jp]

As we can see there has been a density spike.

The actual readings can be seen here: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] As Nict take their data from the ACE satellite.

Now 50.2 is still quite moderate, especially considering the following;

The magnetic strength of the solar wind is weak as seen on the BzNT and the ByNT graphs on nict.

The velocity is still low.

This means that the storm strength is still low Kp3-4

So yeah.. no DOOM, sorry guys/gals.

I could go into lots of things and wanted to keep this short. Any questions?

P.S. Sorry bout the title.

Oh and Nict [link to www2.nict.go.jp]

And ACE graphical readings. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Last Edited by OTOC on 01/07/2011 04:13 PM
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bump
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boooo

thats no fun at all

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i like the title coming from you lol
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Thanks for the info. I appreciate your clarifying this.

hf
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You are exactly right OP. Case in point, someone was panicking about the 24 hour nict movie last night. I watched it and told them it actually looked quite good, which was true. So just chill lol, we're good.
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boooo

thats no fun at all

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hehehe
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Out of the charts.

Birds and fish felt it first, Katla second.
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To quell some fear, about the magnetosphere.

First let me remind you that nict is just a computer generated simulation on the magnetosphere and does not show the actual magnetosphere and is not in 3D.

Now a screenshot [link to www2.nict.go.jp]

As we can see there has been a density spike.

The actual readings can be seen here: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] As Nict take their data from the ACE satellite.

Now 50.2 is still quite moderate, especially considering the following;

The magnetic strength of the solar wind is weak as seen on the BzNT and the ByNT graphs on nict.

The velocity is still low.

This means that the storm strength is still low Kp3-4

So yeah.. no DOOM, sorry guys/gals.

I could go into lots of things and wanted to keep this short. Any questions?

P.S. Sorry bout the title.
 Quoting: OTOC


Here is a chart that shows last 7 days at once, so it is easy to visually compare now to historical data. At what point is it alarming? 75?
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Here is a chart that shows last 7 days at once, so it is easy to visually compare now to historical data. At what point is it alarming? 75?
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Really depends on all the variables.

With low velocity and a weak magnetic field.. Need at least 100-180 to get anything done!
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To quell some fear, about the magnetosphere.

First let me remind you that nict is just a computer generated simulation on the magnetosphere and does not show the actual magnetosphere and is not in 3D.

Now a screenshot [link to www2.nict.go.jp]

As we can see there has been a density spike.

The actual readings can be seen here: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] As Nict take their data from the ACE satellite.

Now 50.2 is still quite moderate, especially considering the following;

The magnetic strength of the solar wind is weak as seen on the BzNT and the ByNT graphs on nict.

The velocity is still low.

This means that the storm strength is still low Kp3-4

So yeah.. no DOOM, sorry guys/gals.

I could go into lots of things and wanted to keep this short. Any questions?

P.S. Sorry bout the title.
 Quoting: OTOC


No one give a fuck about your misleading opinion , shill.
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On an happier note we will be free very , very soon !
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Sorry, OP is right on this one, unless that mega filament lets go, we're ok, at least for now. Good call OTOC.
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No one give a fuck about your misleading opinion , shill.
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Sheesh, I agree with many many many things the government do and now I'm a shill!

Bah, Just because I've been brainwashed all my life, ever since I was a young english child growing up in the prison that was hong kong, because my family were posted there for military reasons of which I can not say....

Born under the green sky that was the great auroral storm of 1989 and have huge chunks of memory missing, but always remembering the oath I made to the great ones of the stone.

And suddenly I'm a shill?!

Utter nonsense.
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Latest peak reached 65.0 ppcm3
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Not a severe solar storm however if there's a breech in the magnetosphere then we're all being slowly irradiated.

I've read theories about this potentially being behind the bird kills.
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OOOPS! I just crapped my pants, thanks OTOC!
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And what is your opinion about the birds thing ?
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Now 70.8 ppcm3

Still no problems, Just remember it's still a weak magnetic field attached to it and it's still moving quite slow.

But looking mainly at the magnetic field.

That's the bit which interacts with our magnetosphere, so if that is still weak, it will take a huge amount of density with a high velocity to make any real impact.

And the fac that it's northerly orientated acts to charge the magnetosphere and in a way strengthens it, unless a hole appears somewhere and all the particles that are being 'held' by the magnetosphere decide to rush into the ionsphere over the south pacific ocean or somewhere. Then there is nothing at all to even concern yourself about.

Unless you're near the poles, Grab some nice pics would ya!
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And what is your opinion about the birds thing ?
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It's your basic localised supercharged low pressure bubbles, due to the magnetic fluctuations causing high energy particles to stream into minor holes in the lower magnetosphere.

The supercharged particles are heated from the energy and a lot become ionised and spread out to cause a relatively small sphere of low pressure and little oxygen, most the oxygen will be ionised and useless anyway.

Can only be sustained via a constant input of energy and so most are short-lived.

Nothing sinister, the low pressure knocks them out cold from lack of oxygen.
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What would be a dangerous and very doomy level?
What would it look like and read like?
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What would be a dangerous and very doomy level?
What would it look like and read like?
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High velocity, Strong southerly magnetic field orientation, high density combined.

Nict would probably read this as completely white, including the wings for a long stretch and a long widish white tail.

It would be torn back so most of the pressure simulation would appear behind the earth about 80% with on the simulation the pressure pretty much touching the earth.

Also noting that directly infront of the earth (the left side on nict) with the southerly stripping away layers of magnetism it would appear more flat than most would expect.

But nict is only a simulation and only goes so far. What you want to look at is the actual numbers.

Need something like 180ppcm3 780km/s -35BzNT.

That you would really notice. Anything less than that really isn't all too damaging.
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completely normal... said Kevin Martin
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And what is your opinion about the birds thing ?


It's your basic localised supercharged low pressure bubbles, due to the magnetic fluctuations causing high energy particles to stream into minor holes in the lower magnetosphere.

The supercharged particles are heated from the energy and a lot become ionised and spread out to cause a relatively small sphere of low pressure and little oxygen, most the oxygen will be ionised and useless anyway.

Can only be sustained via a constant input of energy and so most are short-lived.

Nothing sinister, the low pressure knocks them out cold from lack of oxygen.
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Didnt understand most of it, but thanks anyway.
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So you are saying that is normal?
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whew Thats a relief, thanks.
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No one give a fuck about your misleading opinion , shill.


Sheesh, I agree with many many many things the government do and now I'm a shill!

Bah, Just because I've been brainwashed all my life, ever since I was a young english child growing up in the prison that was hong kong, because my family were posted there for military reasons of which I can not say....

Born under the green sky that was the great auroral storm of 1989 and have huge chunks of memory missing, but always remembering the oath I made to the great ones of the stone.

And suddenly I'm a shill?!

Utter nonsense.
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shocked
what??
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So you are saying that is normal?
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Completely.

Depending on your perception of 'normal'

If you consider 'normal' to be not getting hit by any real solar wind or just the 'background noise' then no to you it isn't normal.

But if you consider normal to be being hit by solar wind every so often and it not doing anything to the magnetosphere which it cannot easily handle, then yes it is normal.
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OTOC, what is your opinion about the fish thing?

Also - I haven't ask you lately - how's your earthquake prediction software going? Any progress in past 6 months?
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OTOC, what is your opinion about the fish thing?

Also - I haven't ask you lately - how's your earthquake prediction software going? Any progress in past 6 months?
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Lots of progress, begun mapping the US :)

Long way to go though.

Ah the fish, let me think about that one for a while.
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Thanks OTOC - Great post as always, glad you are around.
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