What REALLY killed the birds... And the fish. | |
| S'gan-Levi User ID: 1219578 01/06/2011 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's your basic localised supercharged low pressure bubbles, due to the magnetic fluctuations causing high energy particles to stream into minor holes in the lower magnetosphere. Quoting: OTOCThe supercharged particles are heated from the energy and a lot become ionised and spread out to cause a relatively small sphere of low pressure and little oxygen, most the oxygen will be ionised and useless anyway. Can only be sustained via a constant input of energy and so most are short-lived. Nothing sinister, the low pressure knocks them out cold from lack of oxygen, some wake up as they leave the low pressure bubble, but they have already suffered severe internal damage from the lack of oxygen and the sudden low pressure that they cannot continue to fly. so a CME zapped 'em? Revelation 1:7 "Behold, He comes with clouds; and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him. Even so, Amen." Zechariah 12:10 "And I will pour on the house of David, and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look on Me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for Him, as one mourns for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for Him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn." |
| OTOC (OP) User ID: 1216147 01/06/2011 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so a CME zapped 'em? Quoting: S'gan-LeviWell not quite. Many things can cause that effect, from a gamma ray burst, to a magnetic flux tube connection event to the sun combined with a weak point on the magnetosphere, to your background noise of solar particles just finding a crack. To other cosmic rays getting in, To lightning striking through there and many many more. Take your pick. May of not of even been the magnetic fluctuations, but is more likely given the amount of bird deaths. Last Edited by OTOC on 01/06/2011 03:07 PM Solar Storms, Your basic guide: Thread: Solar Storms, Your Basic Guide. AC 1082864 - "This post was sponsored by OTOC. If you watch any doom on November 4, watch katla!" Yellowstone - 2024, some time after june. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1170495 01/06/2011 03:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's your basic localised supercharged low pressure bubbles, due to the magnetic fluctuations causing high energy particles to stream into minor holes in the lower magnetosphere. Quoting: OTOCThe supercharged particles are heated from the energy and a lot become ionised and spread out to cause a relatively small sphere of low pressure and little oxygen, most the oxygen will be ionised and useless anyway. Can only be sustained via a constant input of energy and so most are short-lived. Nothing sinister, the low pressure knocks them out cold from lack of oxygen, some wake up as they leave the low pressure bubble, but they have already suffered severe internal damage from the lack of oxygen and the sudden low pressure that they cannot continue to fly. Good hypothesis |
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| OTOC (OP) User ID: 1216147 01/06/2011 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it's a "basic" occurrence as you say, then why does it not happen with regularity? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 987419It is and has done. Just a bit more magnetically unstable of late so more are reported. Solar Storms, Your basic guide: Thread: Solar Storms, Your Basic Guide. AC 1082864 - "This post was sponsored by OTOC. If you watch any doom on November 4, watch katla!" Yellowstone - 2024, some time after june. |
| Seeker5 User ID: 338949 01/06/2011 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's your basic localised supercharged low pressure bubbles, due to the magnetic fluctuations causing high energy particles to stream into minor holes in the lower magnetosphere. Quoting: OTOCThe supercharged particles are heated from the energy and a lot become ionised and spread out to cause a relatively small sphere of low pressure and little oxygen, most the oxygen will be ionised and useless anyway. Can only be sustained via a constant input of energy and so most are short-lived. Nothing sinister, the low pressure knocks them out cold from lack of oxygen, some wake up as they leave the low pressure bubble, but they have already suffered severe internal damage from the lack of oxygen and the sudden low pressure that they cannot continue to fly. So this is a 'natural' occurrence? Why have we not heard of this many bird deaths before (in such a short period of time)? "Something is going on that we do not understand." John Emmert |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 987419 01/06/2011 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it's a "basic" occurrence as you say, then why does it not happen with regularity? Quoting: OTOCIt is and has done. Just a bit more magnetically unstable of late so more are reported. I'm middle aged and can't think of anything similar in my lifetime. |
| OTOC (OP) User ID: 1216147 01/06/2011 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So this is a 'natural' occurrence? Why have we not heard of this many bird deaths before (in such a short period of time)? Quoting: Seeker5See post above yours. Last Edited by OTOC on 01/06/2011 03:14 PM Solar Storms, Your basic guide: Thread: Solar Storms, Your Basic Guide. AC 1082864 - "This post was sponsored by OTOC. If you watch any doom on November 4, watch katla!" Yellowstone - 2024, some time after june. |
| Sweet.Skitzo User ID: 1010708 01/06/2011 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's your basic localised supercharged low pressure bubbles, due to the magnetic fluctuations causing high energy particles to stream into minor holes in the lower magnetosphere. Quoting: OTOCThe supercharged particles are heated from the energy and a lot become ionised and spread out to cause a relatively small sphere of low pressure and little oxygen, most the oxygen will be ionised and useless anyway. Can only be sustained via a constant input of energy and so most are short-lived. Nothing sinister, the low pressure knocks them out cold from lack of oxygen, some wake up as they leave the low pressure bubble, but they have already suffered severe internal damage from the lack of oxygen and the sudden low pressure that they cannot continue to fly. I love you Again. Total OUtcast |
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| OTOC (OP) User ID: 1216147 01/06/2011 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm middle aged and can't think of anything similar in my lifetime. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 987419Yes given they have been more common recently, but there has been the odd sporadic event of this happening throughout history. Solar Storms, Your basic guide: Thread: Solar Storms, Your Basic Guide. AC 1082864 - "This post was sponsored by OTOC. If you watch any doom on November 4, watch katla!" Yellowstone - 2024, some time after june. |
| OTOC (OP) User ID: 1216147 01/06/2011 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about the fish and such? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1072221Working on that, give me a while. Solar Storms, Your basic guide: Thread: Solar Storms, Your Basic Guide. AC 1082864 - "This post was sponsored by OTOC. If you watch any doom on November 4, watch katla!" Yellowstone - 2024, some time after june. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 987419 01/06/2011 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| OTOC (OP) User ID: 1216147 01/06/2011 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There ya go, added the fish. Solar Storms, Your basic guide: Thread: Solar Storms, Your Basic Guide. AC 1082864 - "This post was sponsored by OTOC. If you watch any doom on November 4, watch katla!" Yellowstone - 2024, some time after june. |
| OTOC (OP) User ID: 1216147 01/06/2011 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm middle aged and can't think of anything similar in my lifetime. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 987419Yes given they have been more common recently, but there has been the odd sporadic event of this happening throughout history. When and where? Bit busy, but looking through google to get some links, problem is that all the recent events are clogging up the search. And furthermore all that which hasn't made it to the internet from before and the early years of when the internet came about. Most will just be in very old newspapers and folklore or just lost to time. Last Edited by OTOC on 01/06/2011 03:55 PM Solar Storms, Your basic guide: Thread: Solar Storms, Your Basic Guide. AC 1082864 - "This post was sponsored by OTOC. If you watch any doom on November 4, watch katla!" Yellowstone - 2024, some time after june. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1200141 01/06/2011 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm middle aged and can't think of anything similar in my lifetime. Quoting: OTOCYes given they have been more common recently, but there has been the odd sporadic event of this happening throughout history. When and where? Bit busy, but looking through google to get some links, problem is that all the recent events are clogging up the search. And furthermore all that which hasn't made it to the internet from before and the early years of when the internet came about. Most will just be in very old newspapers and folklore or just lost to time. just use ADV search on here the first report on GLP was in October 2005 about an event in China, but that event was ACTUALLY in early 2004.. Thread: Mystery as dead birds rain down here's some historical reports.. [link to content.usatoday.com] |
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| OTOC (OP) User ID: 1216147 01/06/2011 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just use ADV search on here Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1200141the first report on GLP was in October 2005 about an event in China, but that event was ACTUALLY in early 2004.. Thread: Mystery as dead birds rain down here's some historical reports.. [link to content.usatoday.com] Thanks, I knew I'd seen it all somewhere before. Solar Storms, Your basic guide: Thread: Solar Storms, Your Basic Guide. AC 1082864 - "This post was sponsored by OTOC. If you watch any doom on November 4, watch katla!" Yellowstone - 2024, some time after june. |
| OTOC (OP) User ID: 1216147 01/06/2011 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Should I sun-screan my cat? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 900227No, unless you think it would be funny :) Solar Storms, Your basic guide: Thread: Solar Storms, Your Basic Guide. AC 1082864 - "This post was sponsored by OTOC. If you watch any doom on November 4, watch katla!" Yellowstone - 2024, some time after june. |
| Global Justice User ID: 1181965 01/06/2011 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| OTOC (OP) User ID: 1216147 01/06/2011 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so, something like betelgeuse then? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1200141No, although there is no reason that it couldn't be a source of this. Solar Storms, Your basic guide: Thread: Solar Storms, Your Basic Guide. AC 1082864 - "This post was sponsored by OTOC. If you watch any doom on November 4, watch katla!" Yellowstone - 2024, some time after june. |
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| Doctor Dream User ID: 1202860 01/06/2011 04:05 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | cool story bro In the beginning was the Word. And the Word was with God. And the Word Was God. [link to www.youtube.com] |
| OTOC (OP) User ID: 1216147 01/06/2011 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so, something like betelgeuse then? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1200141No, although there is no reason that it couldn't be a source of this. oh, right, so you're saying it is GRBs from EVERYWHERE that do this? I'm saying it could be gamma rays from anywhere that can do this. Along with any of the number of other reasons I gave. and more. Solar Storms, Your basic guide: Thread: Solar Storms, Your Basic Guide. AC 1082864 - "This post was sponsored by OTOC. If you watch any doom on November 4, watch katla!" Yellowstone - 2024, some time after june. |
| Global Justice User ID: 1181965 01/06/2011 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And people will blame it on everything but themselves and their own ways of living. Blame it on the moon and the sun and supernovas and the government and whatever the fuck else. All except themselves. and now that you got these home poisons question is .....how are you going to get rid of them if you change your mind and not want them anymore ? Throw them away of course. Somewhere in nature where something else lives. People are retarded. I swear to God people are dumb. |
| OTOC (OP) User ID: 1216147 01/06/2011 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And people will blame it on everything but themselves and their own ways of living. Blame it on the moon and the sun and supernovas and the government and whatever the fuck else. All except themselves. Quoting: Global Justice 1181965and now that you got these home poisons question is .....how are you going to get rid of them if you change your mind and not want them anymore ? Throw them away of course. Somewhere in nature where something else lives. People are retarded. I swear to God people are dumb. Not everyone is as dirty as americans. Solar Storms, Your basic guide: Thread: Solar Storms, Your Basic Guide. AC 1082864 - "This post was sponsored by OTOC. If you watch any doom on November 4, watch katla!" Yellowstone - 2024, some time after june. |
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| 2012Portal 2012Portal - The Mayan Calendar User ID: 519048 01/06/2011 04:10 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A flock of birds getting downed in a storm here or there is normal. Even the odd flock crashing without a clear explanation will happen. Yet this is seemingly (and once again, it may just be the Internets that make it seem that way compared to years past) occurring all over the world in un-related places with various species of birds, fish and crustaceans. Mayan Calendar and 2012- From the love of power to the power of Love - [link to 2012portal.myfeedportal.com] |