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Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida
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DELTA FORCE (E - - - - -)
7/25/2005 11:00 AM
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Any duststorm from the Middle East has the possiblilty of carrying "depleted" uranium from Iraq to the US. If this storm originated completely in the Sahara, them perhaps there will be no DU in the dust.
However this story is getting wide coverage and may be a diversion from focusing on the rising levels of DU in the atmosphere. If there is DU in the dust then the major effect will be respiratory problems. There will also be "excess deaths", especially for those with weakened immune systems.
Have out war chickens come home to roost?
How to tell if DU is in the dust: Obtain an inexpensive Geiger counter that will interface with your computer. Record the background before, during, and after the dust event. For Florida, the background should be 15 to 18 counts per minute provided you are not near a phosphate mine. If the counts rise to 20 to 22 (or above) counts per minute duck and cover. STAY indoors, use air filters if you have any; it is possible that electrostatic filters will be the best protection.
Interesting coincidence: The Israeli astronaut on the last shuttle mission was measuring/studying the dust in the Sahara. Was this a study of fallout transport from a nuclear war in the Mid East to the US? |
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Watching
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
HMMM....that is an interesting thought...you might be on to something.... |
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Dr P
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
There are few good things one can say about woo-woos, but they are imaginative! |
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Dr P
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
Too bad their imaginations are not constrained by reality! |
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Her Majesty
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
interesting read op |
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BlueDolphin
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
Delta, I thought the same thing when I heard about this cloud.... After all, Depleted Uranium does have a 4 billion year half- life...Oh, what those scum are doing to our poor Planet..Mercy Mercy Mercy...   |
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Dr P
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
Blue Dolphin, hydrogen has an infinite half life. Why aren´t you in a panic about it? Perhaps now you will be... |
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BlueDolphin
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
Dr P, Hydrogen is not going to lodge in lung tissue and cause cancer. Depleted Uranium can and does.  |
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Delta Force
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
to Blue Dolphin. |
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Dr P
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
Depleted uranium is just barely more dangerous radiologically than hydrogen. But why should I bother? Who cares what an insignificant crackpot thinks about anything? |
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Shadow
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
Uh oh, Nigeria has WMD
lol |
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BlueDolphin
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
That´s right Dr P, who cares.... But we let you post here anyway !!  Who loves ya baby....you cantankerous curmudgeon of callousness you....????  THE FACTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES ----> Depleted Uranium is DEADLY DANGEROUS and not supportive of life on Earth. |
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von Doom
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
Blue Dolphin please do not waste your time arguing with Dr.P
That manchild is a tiresome bore. |
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Delta Force
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
to Blue Dolphin. |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
Isn´t this cloud passing over several countries before arriving here in the States? What effect has it had on these countries, if any? |
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RaDiCaL
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
I´m not saying that DU is in this cloud, but don´t let anybody tell you that DU is safe.
[link to www.risq.org]
Depleted Uranium:
Scientific Basis for
Assessing Risk
July 2003
RECOMMENDATIONS
Debate over the use of depleted uranium munitions, sometimes fierce and politicized, has continued since the 1991
Gulf War. The purpose of this report was to review some of the key, and most recent, research applicable to the
issue and reach some conclusions and recommendations for the future.
From a review of the research, both independent and government sponsored, several conclusions can be drawn:
• The virtually unanimous conclusion of all investigative and scientific bodies that have looked into this issue is
that DU fragments and contaminated equipment should be cleaned up and civilian access, especially from
children, should be prevented.
• Lab research on alpha emitters, conducted by several major universities, show unusual levels of cellular and
chromosome damage as a result of exposure to even low levels of alpha radiation.
• Animal research involving implanted depleted uranium shows clear health risks, including tumors and
reproductive effects.
• Children, because they are extremely sensitive to both chemical and radiation toxicity, are particularly at risk
of harm from exposure to depleted uranium.
Based on all the available data, Nuclear Policy Research Institute makes the following recommendations:
• Immediate urine samples should be taken from civilians in affected areas and soldiers who may have come
into contact with DU. These samples can be taken at minimal cost and will allow a base for future research.
• The occupying forces must take action immediately to prevent further civilian exposure to contaminated
equipment and ordinance, through cordoning off damaged tanks, removing intact fragments, and placing
warnings in Arabic.
• The occupying forces must lay out an immediate schedule for the remediation and cleanup of contaminated
equipment, buildings and other locations where depleted uranium may be found.
• Independent epidemiological research is urgently needed to address the health problems reported in
southern Iraq.
• Long term monitoring must be put in place to monitor for migration of DU into the environment, water
supplies and milk; and long term studies must be conducted on the population in areas where DU was used
in 2003.
Finally
• Given the potential long-lasting risk to noncombatants, the Pentagon should investigate alternative sources
of ammunition (such as tungsten) and immediately halt the production, sale and use of depleted uranium
munitions. |
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Shadow
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
I´m not sure that the countries it passes over have a national weather service...Senegal, Mali, Gambia, Guinea... |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
Yellow cake tastes good with the right frosting!!!! |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
We have alot of wind in Florida. Hopefully that means the cloud will pass quickly. |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
Im only responding to the first post and havent read the rest.
You are worried about it comeing over the sea. WHO GIVES A FUCK, its your countrys waste anyway, thats back where it belongs.
What about the people in Iraq and Afghanistan who live where they shoot that stuff. |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
Dr P you are such an ass. |
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I´m not a nuclear playboy Woo
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
uhhhh, the _reason_ they use DU is because it´s heavier than lead. That means that it´s going to settle out of any purported dust cloud before most anything else.
I guess a good, strong, _constant_ wind still might carry it a ways. |
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Dr P
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
Radical, the garbage you cut-and-pasted sounds much more "scientific" than anything you could possibly make up...but it´s garbage all the same. |
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RaDiCaL
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
Dr. P tell that to the Nuclear Policy Research Institute.
I´m sure that they are very interested in hearing from you. Your insights into this area of investigation are sure to change their opinion on the subject. Your skillful debate will undoubtedly cause them to cast all scientific fears aside.
Now go peddle your pompous ass elsewhere. You have outworn your welcome here. |
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Amber Optics
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
One of the fortunate characteristics of having a very high atomic number (Uranium is 92) is that you have a very dense molecular weight. There´s a better chance of iron particles floating over here than Uranium... and iron has atomic number 26. Uranium is close to 4 times heavier than iron. When´s the last time you saw a cloud or iron blow through your town? |
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Amber Optics
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
Too bad I was wrong about Uranium particulate... it can blow around in the dust. Uranium eventually becomes lead. Here is an example of lead particulate...
"The effect of airborne lead particle size on worker blood-lead levels: an empirical study of battery workers."
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
Uranium can, in fact, blow over in the dust. All we are is dust in the wind here people. |
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Dr P
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
Radical, your "welcome" is worth considerably less to me than the proverbial bucket of warm spit. As for the Nuclear Policy Research Institute, I wouldn´t expect an ignoramus like you to know that the sole purpose of this "institute" is to concoct lies for left-wing rabble-rousers. These lies do not, of course, have to bear intelligent examination, since they are only meant for people as ignorant as you. |
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RaDiCaL
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
Just for clarification...
I´m not so worried about uranium in this dust as I am the bacteria.
[link to www.phschool.com]
´Though scientists have known that intercontinental dust plumes can ferry bacteria and viruses, "most people had assumed that the [sun´s] ultraviolet light would sterilize these clouds," says microbiologist Dale W. Griffin, also with the USGS in St. Petersburg. "We now find that isn´t true."´
However, I have to tell ya that the idea of uranium dust blowing back to the USA seems very ironic... almost karmic. |
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Delta Force (E - - - - )
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
to RaDiCal. |
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RaDiCaL
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
Dr. P., just what are you a doctor of... Proctology??
No doubt you´re very gifted.
What? Now you´re an Expert on the Experts?
I´m not here to defend any particular research group. The point is that some research has been done and more is being done. There are real long-term concerns. Your bogus attempts to pat us on the head, give us a cookie, and tell us to go back to sleep will not work on this issue.
I´m just saying don´t let anybody tell you that DU is safe. Anybody. Most Especially You. |
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Dr P
12/8/2005 10:13 AM | | Re: Depleted Uranium in Sahara Cloud headed for Florida | Quote |
I am very gifted, Radical, and I am an expert on a number of things. And I have better things to do than bandy words with an ignorant crackpot like you. Fortunately, you and your ilk have no influence on anything that matters. |
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