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Dont Go to the Light When you Die, Its a Trap..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
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I was kidding. ;p
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If you have karma, desires, addictions, etc to work out you will be forced into the white light, you have no choice.


God hates sin, because sin breaks us and chains us.

Release it all now, while you are living and breathing.
forgive, release, repent and LOVE now............


God doesn't hate sin, you are just not allowed to the next "heaven" if you have attachments.

From the standpoint of the universal law, the Christian's psychology is in effect tricking one into believing they have no karma to work out, because Jesus took all the karma onto himself. The strength of ones belief might very well work in keeping the spirit and soul intact upon the second death...because that's what the white light is, the second death, spirit goes back to work, the soul waits or is put to sleep.


In some ways yes, in some ways not. You have a good point though.
Yes, we believe Christ took the curse/sins upon his shoulders that we are confident in entering into heaven. However, that Is not a free ticket here to do as we choose. if we are truly in "him" we will not be following the world. We are also not living lifes best attached to the world/sin.


I agree so in effect, following Jesus would enable one to work out his own "salvation" - do you believe smaller sins can be looked over, I recall there being a verse by Jesus and Paul stating all men must pass through the fire....hmmm....narrow gate.
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The truth is, I HOPE there is no reincarnation. I cannot say, because I haven't died and I wouldn't want to come back here:-)

Sin is: Everything that keeps you from what God created you to be. To have a beautiful life. To live in harmony, to love yourself and others, to walk in peace. To have confidence and faith in him.
So, YES God forgives all..however, even though he has forgiven- Sin will have a ripple effect...
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its all about energy

and there is alot out there to control this energy
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How about our loved ones who've been mislead by the church, they surely went to the light, I believe you, but will we ever be together again?



If you loved enough, Im sure there is a resurrection, On tombstones our ancestors who were Christians inscribed.

"God remember me"

If you didnt leave enough love and impression, youre likely reincarnated

If you have to let go of some loved ones though, dont worry, They are progressively moving towards their hearts desire and eternal life,

Soul groups stick together thru incarnations anyways...

In the end, youve lost no one. You will all be together and given the answers to the full scope of Gods Plan..

So Al, why would you post this thought? Don't go to the light, it's a trap?

Every soul's journey is unique. Trust me. Telling people to stay away from the light? How do you know that their journey is not to come back again? You interfere with a person's future when you give out advice such as that.

You say this is your last life, yet you speak often of being taught by the masters? A true initiate who is on a quest to return to source, lets behind the need for guidance from the outside. To truly arrive, one must let go of all of their need for assistance from any source but our Source - God. To arrive at completion, one has to learn to go it alone and learn to quiet the mind and soul in order to hear.

I don't think you are listening to that internal source that connects you to the true source. Please don't tell people to stay away from the light. It might be their next journey to do so. Coming back for more learning and remembering is not a trap. If one needs help in such an understanding, he is not ready to move on....so no worries. See it is that simple.
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hehe, Thank you my wise friend,

Me Bad !!! I did a tabloid style post to attract readers, I do teach people on soul progression, evolution, and Alchemy...

I teach them the Divine Order, Will and Processes.. and yes, its all in control of the Divine

I was being gentle is all and wanting to trigger peoples feelings and thoughts. so it becomes their post, their thread, We are all in the ongoing process together, The Tarot, or Royal Road thru the Major and Minor Arcana...

Until the Grand day the Initiate declares...

I travel upon high, I tread upon the Firmament of Nu, I raise a flashing-flame with the Lightning of Mine Eye; ever rushing on in the Splendor of the daily Glorified Ra; giving my life to the dwellers of Earth !

Consummatum Est.
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the mind and soul working together will let you explore the universe

all you need is to have the passion for knowledge

some has the passion for money etc

i have prayed for knowledge
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well this was how i was taught to leave my body i was 14 went atop a mountain and layed down and prayed for 5 hours

then i felt 7 beings of light come all around me i got really scared but was told not to be affraid so i relaxed and layed back down i looked at me feet and it was like a xray i watched my soul start leaving my body it was purw white like i was looking at a xray but with my viens so it started from my feet went up to my knees mid section then atop of my head

next thing i know i was riding a spinal cord from my body upwards to the sky at the speed of light then i asked what do you have instore for me and then jesus in pure white energy larger that the universe out stretched his arms and flew a pure white eagle infront of me, then i rode my spinal cord back to my body , but on the way back there was screaming skulls in pain as i went back to my body

what does this mean i have wondered for ages

and have dreams alot of me climbing to the top to be free
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al any insight on this please
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I have discovered that every choice we make in life,
will have a positive or negative outcome.
We are born protected, with a force that surrounds us.
When we are SINNED upon/or sin on someone..little holes
are poked through that force, and through those holes
everything negative/the adversary comes through and holds
a person with a "stronghold" The adversary is waiting to
tromp on someone and circles looking for an opening.
When we forgive, talk, heal, and ask for forgiveness....
there is no place for the adversary to take hold.
Through prayer, forgiveness, and walking from sin we keep
those dark forces at Bay. Through christs blood and protection, prayed over us..we keep it at bay. Though tempted, we have a way out.

If you want examples where it starts..i will write more.
don't want to bore you.
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I'm laughing my ass off how do you guys know this shit. I know nothing, you know nothing. face it this is just a combination of your religious heritage, fears and dreams. Jesus....God...blahblah....You know there are hundreds if not thousands different religions worldwide. Why should they be less honourable than yours?
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when i was nine this is how i would travel

i would image this around my body in a relaxed state and then my mind would form it into energy and off i would go

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First off there is NO "judgment"........and secondly, you have had as many lives as a tree has leaves!
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One awakens inside the other
To rediscover itself once again
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Don't listen to this guy.

If you want salvation and peace, go toward the light.

The black void can only lead to bad things.
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Yes, being afraid of the dark, I'm generally averse to black voids. Even if OP is correct, the light just leads to reincarnation, which sounds a hell of a lot better than a black void.
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he is not wrong there is a soul catcher
you must not stay head to the center of creation not hang around the earth the light



Some say its Grey Aliens at the other end with the Soul Catcher, Maybe thats why they were created? Each species has a purpose and plan


The archons? Gnostic doctrine teaches that soul must pass 7 heavens successfully to reach "heaven" - I would hope it's not that complicated.
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And you have to pass thru the seven planets as well. and their corresponding metals...
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dangit AL talk to me
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he is not wrong there is a soul catcher
you must not stay head to the center of creation not hang around the earth the light



Some say its Grey Aliens at the other end with the Soul Catcher, Maybe thats why they were created? Each species has a purpose and plan


The archons? Gnostic doctrine teaches that soul must pass 7 heavens successfully to reach "heaven" - I would hope it's not that complicated.



And you have to pass thru the seven planets as well. and their corresponding metals...
 Quoting: AL MURREDIN


Yup the planets each have a guardian.
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How about our loved ones who've been mislead by the church, they surely went to the light, I believe you, but will we ever be together again?



If you loved enough, Im sure there is a resurrection, On tombstones our ancestors who were Christians inscribed.

"God remember me"

If you didnt leave enough love and impression, youre likely reincarnated

If you have to let go of some loved ones though, dont worry, They are progressively moving towards their hearts desire and eternal life,

Soul groups stick together thru incarnations anyways...

In the end, youve lost no one. You will all be together and given the answers to the full scope of Gods Plan..

So Al, why would you post this thought? Don't go to the light, it's a trap?

Every soul's journey is unique. Trust me. Telling people to stay away from the light? How do you know that their journey is not to come back again? You interfere with a person's future when you give out advice such as that.

You say this is your last life, yet you speak often of being taught by the masters? A true initiate who is on a quest to return to source, lets behind the need for guidance from the outside. To truly arrive, one must let go of all of their need for assistance from any source but our Source - God. To arrive at completion, one has to learn to go it alone and learn to quiet the mind and soul in order to hear.

I don't think you are listening to that internal source that connects you to the true source. Please don't tell people to stay away from the light. It might be their next journey to do so. Coming back for more learning and remembering is not a trap. If one needs help in such an understanding, he is not ready to move on....so no worries. See it is that simple.



hehe, Thank you my wise friend,

Me Bad !!! I did a tabloid style post to attract readers, I do teach people on soul progression, evolution, and Alchemy...

I teach them the Divine Order, Will and Processes.. and yes, its all in control of the Divine

I was being gentle is all and wanting to trigger peoples feelings and thoughts. so it becomes their post, their thread, We are all in the ongoing process together,
The Tarot, or Royal Road thru the Major and Minor Arcana...

Until the Grand day the Initiate declares...

I travel upon high, I tread upon the Firmament of Nu, I raise a flashing-flame with the Lightning of Mine Eye; ever rushing on in the Splendor of the daily Glorified Ra; giving my life to the dwellers of Earth !

Consummatum Est.
 Quoting: AL MURREDIN


You've lost the plot Al - best keep that ego in check.
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reincarnation is a way to marginalize the value of life.

Demons are adept at fooling poor humans into thinking they have had past lives. Guess what? Demons where there, they saw the past lives, so they have no problem at all putting thoughts in your head that turn out to be absolutely true. They were there. They remember.

anonstoner
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You ridicule people's beliefs in reincarnation yet you have a firm belief in demons? Get off that pedestal that is called hypocrisy and do some research besides reading that bible of yours. Ridiculous!
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argh wished i could tell you what genetic family a came from we go back 2000 years

is this why i am able to gain knowledge and travel?
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prayed for knowledge since i was out of the womb

was taught how to lay down form a triangle from my mid section to the top of my head and another just above my mid section to just under my feet then inclose it with a circle and us my mind to form energy around it and off i would go leave my body in a ball of pure energy i have traveled alot
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This guy must be an OT VIII. I'll bet he can blow David Miscavige remotely.
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prayed for knowledge since i was out of the womb

was taught how to lay down form a triangle from my mid section to the top of my head and another just above my mid section to just under my feet then inclose it with a circle and us my mind to form energy around it and off i would go leave my body in a ball of pure energy i have traveled alot


This guy must be an OT VIII. I'll bet he can blow David Miscavige remotely.
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lol dont think so i grew up in the woods got a 5 th grade education
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and i dont harm anyone when OBE only protect myself
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AL you there?
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I did not read the whole thread or all posts so I do not know if it was explained.

But, the Light is actually the Sun, and indeed going there once you die is not the most brilliant (pun intended) thing you can do.

Actually you WILL be reincarnated, and reincarnation is what you would WANT to AVOID.

That is simply because of the Trap System, which would be too awful much to get into right here now (I have explained it in my other thread such as here: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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AL you there?
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Hi my friend, Yes, You had a experience for me to read? I think I see it above

Ill tell you what I think... hf
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Stop preaching the devils deception. There is no such thing as reincarnation, the scriptures are clear , we die once and then judgement.
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scriptures... lol.. bsmeter2
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well this was how i was taught to leave my body i was 14 went atop a mountain and layed down and prayed for 5 hours

then i felt 7 beings of light come all around me i got really scared but was told not to be affraid so i relaxed and layed back down i looked at me feet and it was like a xray i watched my soul start leaving my body it was purw white like i was looking at a xray but with my viens so it started from my feet went up to my knees mid section then atop of my head

next thing i know i was riding a spinal cord from my body upwards to the sky at the speed of light then i asked what do you have instore for me and then jesus in pure white energy larger that the universe out stretched his arms and flew a pure white eagle infront of me, then i rode my spinal cord back to my body , but on the way back there was screaming skulls in pain as i went back to my body

what does this mean i have wondered for ages

and have dreams alot of me climbing to the top to be free



al any insight on this please
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Thats really beautiful ! The White animal is a sign of a Great Prophet, like the White Buffalo Calf prophecy fulfilled in Janesville Wisconsin..

The Eagle is a important bird, a Royal bird just like the Ibis or Stork was to the Egyptians,

Youll like this, I think the White Eagle is your souls guardian.. and it was hinting at your destiny

Birds are said to deliver the Souls from the upper atmosphere on their descent into the fetus...

The "guff" is a term the Talmuduses to refer to the repository of all unborn souls. Literally,the word "guff" means "body."

The Talmud says, "The Son of David (Mashiach)will not arrive until there's no more 'soul' in the 'body.'" This means that there are a certain number of souls in heaven waiting to be born. Until they are born, they wait in a heavenly repository called "the body." The Mashiach won't arrive until every single one of these souls has been born into the physical world.

"The birds are the ones who carry the souls from heaven to the newborn babies when the guff is empty, the world is ending"
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AL you there?



Hi my friend, Yes, You had a experience for me to read? I think I see it above

Ill tell you what I think... hf
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ty you i have egyptain ties and viking
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prayed for knowledge since i was out of the womb

was taught how to lay down form a triangle from my mid section to the top of my head and another just above my mid section to just under my feet then inclose it with a circle and us my mind to form energy around it and off i would go leave my body in a ball of pure energy i have traveled alot


This guy must be an OT VIII. I'll bet he can blow David Miscavige remotely.
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not OT VIII tech.. starting with OT IIIX, there's no longer a need for this visualization mechanism.. sorry, you should get yourself to an org if you really want to learn.. hf
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Stop preaching the devils deception. There is no such thing as reincarnation, the scriptures are clear , we die once and then judgement.
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^^^^^^^ Now theres some real bullshit right there !!!!
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I'm laughing my ass off how do you guys know this shit. I know nothing, you know nothing. face it this is just a combination of your religious heritage, fears and dreams. Jesus....God...blahblah....You know there are hundreds if not thousands different religions worldwide. Why should they be less honourable than yours?
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It is known because once the Door is opened, it is shown. Words do get in the way but two or more that utilize the Presence for decrypting the metaphoric display, understanding each other through what's on the other side of the Door, and it is instantaneous and assured.

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that makes since but when i was speaking to them i was giving a since i was free from earthly bounds

i really hope so i am so sick of living in this world when you see and know what it is all about

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