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Dont Go to the Light When you Die, Its a Trap..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
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See A Fucking Dead Stick Reptoid Need to Keep Balance Sometime ...!


His Right about that Light ....! He have to PUT some TRUE to Attract what HE WANTS.!

You want my Reaction AL N'est-ce pas ...! lol


Remember AL MY Heart is center-fulcrum-being, going inward. Bidirectional...!

I will PUT your frequency on MY ALTAR dear friend and intone a name in a certain diatonic sequence, in a certain key...!

and I wont do my meditations and invocations setup in layers and levels of 3.

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life has always been about choice. when you die, christ and satan will be standing there beckoning you to come to them.
The lords children knows his voice. tounge
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If you see a Light when you die, its a trap ! Its a trap to catch your soul to be recycled for reincarnation, the veil of forgetfullness will be put over you and you will continue the cycle

The other death is a black void, a vacuum back to source, into Gods Bosom... for remembrance and resurrection

Live well. Love abundantly. And have faith in God that you may be remembered.

We are all on the evolution of the soul until our last incarnation.

-Al


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There's no such thing of after death choice to those people who didn't wakened their consciousness. In another words, 95% of mankind. Most of us are stuck in the Samsara Wheel, the cycle of Karma and unless we get out of this mechanic process, we will ALWAYS return in endless lives. Only awake masters can "reincarnate", choosing the places where they wanna born, the family, the body anatomy they wanna have and so. We, ordinary sheeple can't chose anything. We are attached to the Karma acquired in the past lives, that automatically put us in specific conditions in the next life. This is Gnostic wisdom and also a doctrine of Ayurvedic scriptures.

 Quoting: UndercoverAlien


Undercover, I know this, thank you, There is no choice. All is in Divine and Perfect Order...When its one time to awaken after many Karmic soul lessons, they will escape off the wheel.

Im just having fun with a light tabloid headline, I know what I believe, People will find the truth....
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Light has a frequency

Wouldn't you want to go to the color with the highest frequency?

Look at the colors in a rainbow.

The color with the highest frequency is violet.

What makes the most sense to me is to go to the VIOLET LIGHT.

Ultraviolet!

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 Quoting: Open Your Eyes

in the absence of light, conscious man has 360 degree of perception.

violet is the fastest light wave perceivable by the limits of human organ of sight.
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Light has a frequency.

Wouldn't you want to go to the color with the highest frequency?

Look at the colors in a rainbow.

The color with the highest frequency is violet.

What makes the most sense to me is to go to the VIOLET LIGHT.

Ultraviolet!

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 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Thing is, all creation is held together by the combination of chords being sung by the Singer at the Galactic Core.

This entity, upon which this galaxy and all others revolve as systems, is singing.

That song is creation. Each planetary Lord is also singing.

The Sun sings, constantly, in different notes. Hence the different colors - echoes in light matter of that sound frequencies..

Sound is what all existence is built upon. All codes in creation ARE MUSICAL COMPOSITIONS, exactly like a modern score.

Each of us is built with seven notes, sounding OUR chord. You change the notes by dint of character and releasing your Inner Divinity.

everyone chimes their own chord, that is THEM. Even reptoid, if you don't mind distorted freqs. Reptoids are the heavy metal songs of the universe...!
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So My religion of choice is that music. My currency of choice is knowledge. my politics of choice is none. my society of choice is utopian though we know it will never be.

You may hate us. You may dismiss us. You may misunderstand us. You maybe unaware of our existence. We can only hope you do not care to judge us, because we would never judge you. We are not criminals. We are not disillusioned. We are not drug addicts. We are not naive children...

We are one massive, global village that transcends man-made law, physical geography, and time itself. We are The Massive. One Massive. We were first drawn by the sound. From far away, the thunderous, muffled, echoing beat was comparable to a mother's heart soothing a child in her womb of concrete, steel, and electrical wiring.

We were drawn back into this womb, and there, in the heat, dampness, and darkness of it, we came to accept that we are all equal. Not only to the darkness, and to ourselves, but to the very music slamming into us and passing through our souls: we are all equal. And somewhere we could feel the hand of God at our backs, pushing us forward, pushing us to push ourselves to strengthen our minds, our bodies, and our spirits.

We seek to relinquish our inhibitions, and free ourselves from the shackle's and restraints you've put on us for your own peace of mind. We seek to re-write the programming that you have tried to indoctrinate us with since the moment we were born. Programming that tells us to hate, that tells us to judge, that tells us to stuff ourselves into the nearest and most convenient pigeon hole possible. Programming that even tells us to climb ladders for you, jump through hoops, and run through mazes and on hamster wheels. Programming that tells us to eat from the shiny silver spoon you are trying to feed us with, instead of nourish ourselves with our own capable hands.

Programming that tells us to close our minds, instead of open them. Until the sun rises to burn our eyes by revealing the dis-utopian reality of a world you've created for us, we dance fiercely with our brothers and sisters in celebration of our life, of our culture, and of the values we believe in: Peace, Love, Freedom, Tolerance, Unity, Harmony, Expression, Responsibility, Sexual Expression and Respect. Our enemy of choice is ignorance. Our weapon of choice is information. Our crime of choice is breaking and challenging whatever laws you feel you need to put in place to stop us from celebrating our existence.

That music will never stop. The heartbeat will never fade. That music will never end.


A Human Message to ALL Those Dead Stick Reptoid OUT there...!
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Wow, you said it PERFECTLY ! You have all the words of my fellows..

"All is in Divine and Perfect Order"

and

"We are all in this together"

I am trying to accept the duality by my path of knowing myself.. Ive forgiven many when I realized it was myself I was looking at..Im sure Ive played all roles, in another time, another place
I was given the gift to remember who I was . And yes. you know why Im here now. so that others may remember too.

hf

Can you make a account here btw, so we can keep track of eachother?

I have such wise souls popping in and out, and I miss them when I dont see them around..

Im still a baby/child... tounge

I signed in so you can know who I am when I post to your threads. I don't have a paid account, thinking about it though.

You said, "I am trying to accept the duality by my path of knowing myself.. Ive forgiven many when I realized it was myself I was looking at..Im sure Ive played all roles, in another time, another place". It's pretty amazing when you realize when you are looking at yourself. I alway say, forgiveness is a double edges sword. In the end, the understanding shows you there really was no reason to have to forgive, you just accept. To need to forgive means a belief that one has transgressed upon you. To understand means you are aware of a persons place on the ladder of soul evolution and understand their actions.

Soul evolution is my thing. I've been working on the understanding of soul initiation and evolution for about 13 years. It took me through many of the religions over that time and now I am simply of the mindset that religion is a means to take one to a further stage of evolution. It's sad that other's put down one religion over another. They are all doing the same thing, they simply don't see that. So, I understand when you claim you are Judism/Christian (was that right)oriented. One can find the good in any and the bad as well. It is what you make it. They are all stepping stones in soul evolution. At some point you find your way to the core of your soul and none of it seems to matter any longer...only that you are continuing to grow and figure out what it takes to be done.

I wasn't busting on you for saying this is your last lifetime. I believe the same for myself. I am tired, but still feel the need to make the best of this life, so not in a big hurry but still looking forward to peace. For years I felt totally done with being trapped in a body and then something came along to make this life far more meaningful. Now I feel a sense of wanting to stick this last lifetime out. It does leave me wondering why, however. I was good and ready, so this tells me there is a reason I needed to be hooked into staying around for a while. I'll know when it happens.

I've read quite a few of your posts and I have to say, you have guts and can take the heat Al. It's been nice talking.



Oracle, very lovely to give your thoughts, "Trapped is most definately the word" Yes ! when one loses the vanity and more. One is willing to sacrifice their life . But you do find meaning and find out how many you effect for the better. How many lives you touch, how much family and friends need you.....

Perhaps we still feel a new destiny calling,, we know we were meant to be different creatures, a new creation.

You did the best in studying most faiths. Then you see the overall possible unity of humankind... its potential..

Do you know much about the stars and their 88 constellations? Each tell a story, from a Ship, to a man, to a manger where each of the Sun Gods were born, to a woman and a child, it really tells it all. To me its the glue of all faiths.

Right now I see how Orion is almost aligned with Regulus, You follow your eye on the 37 degree of Regulus and go up and you see the Lion Heart, and the Lion of Judah. followed by. Cancer the Manger, and then Orion and the Belt stars of the Three wise men at 31 degrees. a diagonal straight line Its pretty cool !

Give it another look with the stars.. the Pagan and Greek Religions and the Judaic and Christian religions is all degrees of wonder and awe when you see the story of our Gods and our origins...

One day we'll be up there... hf

As Above,
So Below...
 Quoting: AL MURREDIN

Al, I don't get into astrology too much. I often wonder why. Once upon a time, I recognized that at some point in the soul evolution our destiny is no longer guided by the stars. That is the point in which we begin creating our own destiny.

The only items that have been of importance to me over the years is that I am a Leo and I have a stong sense of awareness of Sirius. However, lately, I have had strong urges to watch the night sky. Two months ago, I could visually see the Pleiades in the Taurus Constellation with no visual aide. That was amazing to me, for a reason I do not understand.

I have a three year old, whom was an unexpected and wonderful surprise addition to my life. Her IQ is way up there and her interest in the moon and the stars is nothing short of amazing. This past summer we spent many nights outside laying in the grass and watching the stars. Her desire and need to be outdoors is sometimes overwhelming. She has such a connection to the elements. I don't second guess why she was brought to me. Exploring the stars was not on my top ten list until she brought that to me. Now I just sit back and wait for these awarenesses to present itself to me. Eventually all the puzzle pieces come together.

About religion, recently I read an great article about the myths of the Egyptian Gods and Goddesses came from an ancient way of describing the activity of the stars and the solar system. I had a great desire to learn about the Ancient Egyptian deities at one point, but it is another shell that has been left behind. Still I cling to keeping intact, a room in my home that is dedicated to the Egyptian art I have collected (inexpensive of course). Some would think that gauging ones life by their surrounding is odd, but if you think about it, you live the way you think, which includes your physical surroundings. Currently, my desire is for a clutter free environment, with colors that feel loving and soothing. When one is in a religios state of mind, surrounding oneself with a lot of clutter that reminds us of the old world objects, seems important. Think about that and see what you come up with. The simple things are the ones that make you say hmmm sometimes.

It's odd the way my home reflects so many elemants of different religions, like a shrine. However, I am slowly having the urge to let these items go a few at a time, a sign that organized religion is no longer guiding me. What is most amazing to me is how people balk at paganism. Those that do could not have studied this religion at any point in their lives. Unfortunately, I think that many look at the people who represent these religions rather than the actual facts behind it. People are not as much as a gauge about the meaning of any particular religion as one would think. People are so programmed to deliver their own agenda and in the end, the true meaning of the different religions go to the wayside. Paganism is a big example of this. It is such an easy religion (I use the word religion loosly) to understand and one I went through fairly quickly.

In the end, I believe I kept the understandings from all the religions, that meant something to me. The things I could not believe were discarded. I think our Creater wants us to explore and find the goodness in these thoughtforms for just that purpose. It is how we make up the energy of our soul, which is the same energy that we will be taking back with when we become one with the Source, after completing our stages of soul evolution. When you think of life in this manner, it gives a new perspective to our journey, rather than bringing fear, contempt and judgement into our reality. We can't take these things with us when our cycles of the experiences of incarnation are complete so why incorporate them into our lives once consciousness awareness allows for us to see things clearly.

Be well, Al.
Kindness is in our power, even when fondness is not. --Samuel Johnson
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So My religion of choice is that music. My currency of choice is knowledge. my politics of choice is none. my society of choice is utopian though we know it will never be.

You may hate us. You may dismiss us. You may misunderstand us. You maybe unaware of our existence. We can only hope you do not care to judge us, because we would never judge you. We are not criminals. We are not disillusioned. We are not drug addicts. We are not naive children...

We are one massive, global village that transcends man-made law, physical geography, and time itself. We are The Massive. One Massive. We were first drawn by the sound. From far away, the thunderous, muffled, echoing beat was comparable to a mother's heart soothing a child in her womb of concrete, steel, and electrical wiring.

We were drawn back into this womb, and there, in the heat, dampness, and darkness of it, we came to accept that we are all equal. Not only to the darkness, and to ourselves, but to the very music slamming into us and passing through our souls: we are all equal. And somewhere we could feel the hand of God at our backs, pushing us forward, pushing us to push ourselves to strengthen our minds, our bodies, and our spirits.

We seek to relinquish our inhibitions, and free ourselves from the shackle's and restraints you've put on us for your own peace of mind. We seek to re-write the programming that you have tried to indoctrinate us with since the moment we were born. Programming that tells us to hate, that tells us to judge, that tells us to stuff ourselves into the nearest and most convenient pigeon hole possible. Programming that even tells us to climb ladders for you, jump through hoops, and run through mazes and on hamster wheels. Programming that tells us to eat from the shiny silver spoon you are trying to feed us with, instead of nourish ourselves with our own capable hands.

Programming that tells us to close our minds, instead of open them. Until the sun rises to burn our eyes by revealing the dis-utopian reality of a world you've created for us, we dance fiercely with our brothers and sisters in celebration of our life, of our culture, and of the values we believe in: Peace, Love, Freedom, Tolerance, Unity, Harmony, Expression, Responsibility, Sexual Expression and Respect. Our enemy of choice is ignorance. Our weapon of choice is information. Our crime of choice is breaking and challenging whatever laws you feel you need to put in place to stop us from celebrating our existence.

That music will never stop. The heartbeat will never fade. That music will never end.


A Human Message to ALL Those Dead Stick Reptoid OUT there...!
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Wow, did you write that or was it a quote from something already written? I don't use the term Utopia much, but it feels good to think of that lately.

Great post!
Kindness is in our power, even when fondness is not. --Samuel Johnson
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Light has a frequency.

Wouldn't you want to go to the color with the highest frequency?

Look at the colors in a rainbow.

The color with the highest frequency is violet.

What makes the most sense to me is to go to the VIOLET LIGHT.

Ultraviolet!

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 Quoting: Open Your Eyes

That is a great thought!

I have been very attracted to the color of the light frequencies for a while. For the past five years I feel I am always seeking a light frequency that is the color of cobalt blue...it would remind you of a blue neon light. Do you have an understanding of why I would be attracted to that.

My understanding is that I was preparing for an event in my life. I was surprised by an unexpected event three years ago, the arrival of my wonderful three year old daughter who is adopted. She is wonderfully intellegent but has some specific sensory difficulties. This color of blue light is very calming to her. I am fortunate that when LED lights become an everyday item. Christmas lights in this color are an easy find, so I have no problem bringing this into her environment.

However, I still feel there is more to this. Can you elaborate more?
Kindness is in our power, even when fondness is not. --Samuel Johnson
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i for one, upon that moment of my soul passing to another realm, i shall choose going towards the light! i do not prefer nor require you or anyone else to suggest otherwise!

al, you speak often of your 'tutors'/'mentors' ... i strongly sense that you have been 'groomed' by nasty tricksters or for some reason, you have consciously chosen the dark ways of manipulation, cleverly done mind you, ... in your threads and your postings you are like a manical chef of a wannabe guru recipe (for lack of a better word), your ingredients include a little bit of truth, along with a missmash of either self delusion or the conscious effort/intent to guide those towards darkness, and frankly its warped, ... you also speak often of 'know thyself', yes wise words, but also include 'to thy own self be true' (meaning, listen to ones own heart & soul) and i just don't get you ... we, all of us, here on this realm, are under the influences of many laws, all one has to do to understand this is simply to observe ... especially karma, ie, cause and effect, and i strongly sense that you would be better informed and knowledgeable if you observe this particular one, for starters! you play a clever game, but a nasty one that leads those influenced by you go astray, off target, aka what the word 'sin' actually means ... so for you to suggest or state to others to go towards the darkness rather than light ... has very heavy consequences of your actions, be advised!

this is all i have to say.
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This bears repeating. Read and heed.
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Stop preaching the devils deception. There is no such thing as reincarnation, the scriptures are clear , we die once and then judgement.
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Best re-read your scriptures and look up your history. The only reason reincarnation is no longer a part of your church is because it was taking away power from Rome, nuff said, folks like you have a way to go before opening your eyes, go back to sleep in the mean time. hf
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[however, you're you are not clear of GOD.

explain what do you think is GOD


god is the uncreated and the spirit is not matter so spirit is not compromised once the spirit is realized as to be from the uncreated god and separate from the soul you may be able to go into the darkness from what all comes from the uncreated anti matter and avoid the kinematic cycle
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Undercover, I know this, thank you, There is no choice. All is in Divine and Perfect Order...When its one time to awaken after many Karmic soul lessons, they will escape off the wheel.

Im just having fun with a light tabloid headline, I know what I believe, People will find the truth....
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There you go AL. All is divine in perfect order. We are all one.
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First off there is NO "judgment"........and secondly, you have had as many lives as a tree has leaves!
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WHAT YOU MUST KNOW BEFORE YOU DIE!

(Some of the sources: Silver Birch (9 transmitted books), Arthur Findlay, Anthony Borgia, Lord Dowding, Sir William Crookes, Sir Oliver Lodge, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Leslie Flint, Ivan Cooke, George Meek, Dr Carl Wickland, Sir William Crookes, Dr Robert Crookall, Sir William Barrett, the Rev. C Drayton Thomas, Geraldine Cummins, FWD Myers, Arthur Ford, Johannes Greber, George Anderson, Charles Hapgood, Allan Kardec, 'White Eagle Group', Emmanuel, Joe Fisher, Dr Ian Stevenson, Emmanuel Swedenborg, Martin Ebon, Robert James Lees, Ruth Montgomery, Stainton Moses, Ursula Roberts, Elisabeth Kubler-Ross, Jane Roberts, Helen Greaves and Fransesco Coll I.P.Movement).

- Moments after you will cross over you will be met by someone who had already passed on and with whom you have a heart to heart connection. Someone you can trust, someone who is most certain to be a loved one, someone you can feel most comfortable with. This meeting is meant to make your transition as smooth as you will allow it to be. We are informed that many times average decent folk, especially those who have been 'spiritual' (not necessarily 'religious' - see below) when on earth, will experience a smooth, conscious transition. Only our own limitations, our own prejudices, our own encumbrances will restrict the otherwise smooth transition. For these reasons at the time of crossing over we should always have an open mind and NOT have the mind rigidly set on some expectations taught by uninformed dogmatists on earth.

At this time you will remember all experiences you had when you visited the afterlife. We are credibly informed that during sleep we experience out-of-body experiences. For the average decent open minded person, the transition ought to be a most wonderful spiritual experience. There is NOTHING to fear, NOTHING to be terrified about and certainly EVERYTHING for you to look forward to. Why? Because information transmitted from the otherside consistently tells us that for the average decent folk there will be much beauty, much peace, much light and love. In fact, we are told by some of the highest credible sources including Silver Birch, that we do not have the vocabulary to describe the enormous beauty, peace and love we will be experiencing once we cross over.

When we cross over we will still have free will which is critical to our continuous refinement. We will still be in a position to continue to refine in mind, 'body' and spirit. We will still have the potential to raise our 'vibrations' of the soul to graduate to a higher realm where there will be higher levels of ecstatic experiences far more intense than the one we initially entered. The afterlife is divided into different realms (afterlife worlds)- from the lowest darkest vibrating realm to the highest. We are credibly informed that the average decent person will go to the 'third level.' There will be venues of all kinds of learning. Artists will be able to continue to refine their skills to create enormous inspired beauty. Musicians will be able to perfect their skills and refine their creativity with added inspiration to produce the most heavenly music. Whoever you are, whatever you desire, you will have specialists who will assist in your endeavor to perfect your skills. We will have opportunities to continue to follow the dreams we had on earth and have other opportunities do creative and other things that perhaps we were not able to do on earth. Also we will be enjoying perfect health - the cripple will walk again, the blind will see again, those with any physical or mental problems on earth will be perfectly normal again. The greater and the lesser will be judged ONLY by the level of spirituality (level of vibrations at the time of crossing over) which will be indicated by the brightness of one's own aura which surrounds the body. But one thing is certain, we will find ourselves in a most friendly environment where we will be able to continue to refine with much grace and inspiration - even if it takes eons of earth's time to reach our goal - the highest spirituality. We have an eternity to continue to improve, to progress, to refine in mind and spirit.

There is some concern by a number of people about the 'lower' realms. Let's clarify this. As stated at the time of the crossing people will have the accumulated "vibrations" from their lifetime on earth. The level of vibrations of average decent people will usually qualify them to go to the 'third realm' described above. But there will be some others who will NOT automatically end up in the third realm.

First, there will be some who get stuck for an indefinite period of time between the earth plane and the third realm - this will be a most serious problem. These may be hard core skeptics and others who had rigid, inflexible negative beliefs and who obstinately refused to believe that the afterlife exists. When these closed minded skeptics and debunkers of the afterlife find themselves in the afterlife they will refuse to believe they are 'dead' because they will still have a body (the duplicate of the body they had on earth- they will be able to see, hear and feel things- everything will be just as solid as on earth.). But they will know that something is very seriously different - when they try to talk to people on earth, no one responds to them because people on earth generally cannot see them, cannot hear them, cannot detect their presence. This refusal to believe that they have crossed over will cause confusion in their mind and this confusion could last for more than a thousand years by earth's time - even thousands of years. It is only when they admit they were wrong that they will be able to progress. That is why the state of mind at the time of crossing over ought NOT be rigid. The afterlife consequences are ENORMOUS and we must find the time to learn more about the afterlife. It will be critical to keep an open mind and to allow for the unexpected - especially for those whose environment was dogmatic about what to expect and what NOT to expect in the afterlife.

Secondly, the minority of people who were deliberately cruel, willfully evil, and knowingly selfish would have lower vibrations compared to the average decent person. Those with the lowest vibrations will find themselves in the lowest vibrational afterlife realm where conditions are horrendous. Information transmitted from the otherside tells us in crystal clear terms that this lowest vibrational realm is so horrible we do not have the vocabulary to describe the heinous conditions. Some from the otherside - such as Hugh Benson in the Anthony Borgia afterlife books, have tried but the description was limited because our vocabulary is restricted. He said words to the effect this lowest realm is dark, very cold, putrid in the extreme and inhabited by horrible entities who deliberately give each other horrible experiences.

But NOBODY sends people to this realm. It's all governed by the law of physics- the law of attraction -like level of vibrations attracts like level of vibrations. And if someone from the earthplane crosses over with extremely low vibrations (lowest spirituality), he/she will automatically be attracted to the lowest vibrating realm which can accommodate his/her level of vibrations. No one with lowest vibrations is able to inhabit the higher vibrational realms.

The Law of Cause and Effect also becomes operational. 'You reap what you sow' is a most powerful inevitable law. No one escapes this law; no one can erase the law of retribution. But there is also the Law of Progress which means that even if it takes eaons of time - thousands of years in earth's time, all those who crossed over to the afterlife and who send themselves in the lowest realms will at one time or another come back to the light of the higher realms.

How can we raise the level of our vibrations to maximize the afterlife on crossing over and have a smooth transition? Highly credible transmitted information tells us that 'service' - unselfishly helping others who are in genuine need is the most powerful, guaranteed way of raising your vibrations - raising your spirituality. Note very carefully: you do NOT have to be religious at all to raise your vibrations, i.e. to become more spiritual. As a matter of fact there are those who are atheists, agnostics and certainly non-religious who by conduct and example are very 'spiritual.' So that although religious people may be spiritual some 'religious' people may NOT be so spiritual. Being religious does not automatically mean being spiritual. Religious beliefs are irrelevant to having higher vibrations. It is not what we believe but what we DO on this planet earth that will definitively determine what is going to happen to us when we inevitably cross over.

Death-bed repentance. Whether we are aware of it or not, the universal Law of Cause and Effect operates all the time and no one on earth has the power to suspend its operation. If we willfully said or did something that hurt and injured others, only those injured will have the power to forgive us. And the burden will be carried into the afterlife until there is forgiveness. There cannot be further refinement or progress until we are forgiven either on this earth or in the afterlife. It is fundamentally wrong to believe that confessing your 'sins' to a priest will completely free you from all guilt, from all negative consequences when you cross over. It is far better to seek out the person and make amends while you are still alive. There have been innumerable experiences of people who crossed over seeking forgiveness from people who still reside on the physical earth-plane. This is because there cannot be individual progress in the afterlife until all is forgiven.

Mind is king in the afterlife dimension. We on earth do not really know how powerful the mind will be when we cross over. Transmitted information from the highly credible sources reminds us that the afterlife is governed by the 'mind'. In afterlife travel for example, we only have to think of a place anywhere to go - any place on earth or in the afterlife and we get there instantly by the power of the mind.

Love we are informed is 'the most powerful force in the universe.' Just because we cross over does not mean love is lost or is terminated. Love survives physical death and true love will mean you will never be separated from your loved ones. True unconditional love will usually mean unconditional forgiveness. This will lead to a higher level of vibrations, of spirituality and will be instrumental in graduating to higher afterlife realms where conditions are too beautiful for us on earth to imagine - something to look forward to being there.

CRITICAL: if when crossing over you see powerful light - GO TOWARDS THE LIGHT- but usually the LIGHT comes towards you if you are destined to proceed to the next stage of your spiritual development - to a higher realm. One member of my own family moments before dying stated she was seeing powerful LIGHT. She said, "Where is this light coming from?" Then she passed on calmly and peacefully.

Victor Zammit April 2004
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Is there a doom on the other side? At least, a small doom?
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ALWAYS go toward the light!
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"Remember your dream is your only scheme so keep on pushing"

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Alot of great responses here...
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Is there a doom on the other side? At least, a small doom?
 Quoting: 33°N

Tonight at 11...


"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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See A Fucking Dead Stick Reptoid Need to Keep Balance Sometime ...!


His Right about that Light ....! He have to PUT some TRUE to Attract what HE WANTS.!

You want my Reaction AL N'est-ce pas ...! lol


Remember AL MY Heart is center-fulcrum-being, going inward. Bidirectional...!

I will PUT your frequency on MY ALTAR dear friend and intone a name in a certain diatonic sequence, in a certain key...!

and I wont do my meditations and invocations setup in layers and levels of 3.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1220320



I want to put on this new heart. Make myself over,. The Golden Man, the Immortal being... hf

The Frequency of Eternal Life...the Lost Fiat.
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The Frequency of Eternal Life...the Lost Fiat.
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The Frequency of Eternal Life...the Lost Fiat.



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Goodness, my friend, its gorgeous, Its my birthchart.
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Secret to life. U must have faith in whatever form it takes, u must be un yielding, absolute, and unwavering it that faith. Share it with others but no faith has ever succeded truely on a spiritual level, through force, so bemindful and respectful with others. Above all, love . Love with every part of ur being, love unconditionaly , and appreciate the gift ur given.

When u die, whatever vision or place u experience, if ur soul is righteous through living a life as said above, light or no light u will be at peice!

I love u, I love u all, I love u because u exist, because u where created and live, no one is imperfect, u have the innate ability for good. They Asked "Who are you" the repley "I am"
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I don't doubt what you say Al, actually i'd prefer to say i'm indifferent to it all, but i'm giving you 1 star just because of how you hijacked walt's thread. sheesh, at least you deserve some credit for actually starting your OWN thread, i suppose... But, still, come on, that shit was annoying.
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The Frequency of Eternal Life...the Lost Fiat.



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Goodness, my friend, its gorgeous, Its my birthchart.
 Quoting: AL MURREDIN


SO you like the picture AL lol


I use this picture on my ALTAR with ALL my Orgone Device ...!


It's a DOOR ..!

lol

Yolgnu.
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Goodness, my friend, its gorgeous, Its my birthchart.


SO you like the picture AL lol


I use this picture on my ALTAR with ALL my Orgone Device ...!


It's a DOOR ..!

lol

Yolgnu.
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Ah nice ! Im going to enter mine this September.=) I hope to work some magick.

Im redecorating my Altar now, setting up a room and a special bed to meditate. Im going to choose colors like a deep burgundy...Excited about this year.

I have a orgone cupcake someone made me..

-Al
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I don't doubt what you say Al, actually i'd prefer to say i'm indifferent to it all, but i'm giving you 1 star just because of how you hijacked walt's thread. sheesh, at least you deserve some credit for actually starting your OWN thread, i suppose... But, still, come on, that shit was annoying.
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I wish someone would hijack my thread and make it their home, lol. instead of posts disappearing into oblivion, ...

Thats what most have said, they want their post kept active and bumped up,

Well, "damned if you do, damned if you dont"
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The Frequency of Eternal Life...the Lost Fiat.



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Goodness, my friend, its gorgeous, Its my birthchart.


SO you like the picture AL lol


I use this picture on my ALTAR with ALL my Orgone Device ...!


It's a DOOR ..!

lol

Yolgnu.



Ah nice ! Im going to enter mine this September.=) I hope to work some magick.

Im redecorating my Altar now, setting up a room and a special bed to meditate. Im going to choose colors like a deep burgundy...Excited about this year.

I have a orgone cupcake someone made me..

-Al
 Quoting: AL MURREDIN



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My altar with all my Didgeridoo and some of my Orgone
Device..!

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:o)

Yolgnu.
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Don't listen to this guy.

If you want salvation and peace, go toward the light.

The black void can only lead to bad things.
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Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
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