Man Cures Cancer with Apricot Seeds - FDA Arrests Man for Big Pharma | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 576059 United States 01/07/2011 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cure your own cancer, but DO NOT TELL ANYBODY HOW YOU DID IT !!! Kidding... his mistake was selling it as a cancer cure, you can sell it, but never promote anything as a cure for anything, that's big pharma territory and they'll squash you like a bug! |
czygyny User ID: 418932 United States 01/07/2011 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dry reading, but is good information about the vitamin B17 which is the substance that cured him, and it is found in apricot seeds among other stone fruit pits, and from which Latrile is derived: [link to users.navi.net] Kletos, Eklektos & Pistos |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1122898 United States 01/07/2011 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | >never promote anything as a cure for anything, that's big pharma territory and they'll squash you like a bug! That's right. Isn't it ironic and hilarious that the very people who CAN'T AND WILL NEVER CURE ANYTHING, JUST POISON YOU(big pharma), are the very people who somehow obtained the right (of course illegally) to say..."no one else has the right to cure you, even if somebody else has something better and safer, only we can claim that, yet we are the least likely to entity to cure ANYTHING, and most likely will kill you with poisons phony pills and vaccines". INSANE! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 764206 United States 01/07/2011 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dry reading, but is good information about the vitamin B17 which is the substance that cured him, and it is found in apricot seeds among other stone fruit pits, and from which Latrile is derived: Quoting: czygyny[link to users.navi.net] Thanks for the article - great stuff! I have G. Edward Griffin's book on B-17, "World Without Cancer." |
BrekkyGuy User ID: 1215187 Australia 01/07/2011 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only a 'drug' can 'cure'. Any other remedy or treatment resulting in an ailment being fixed must be termed as 'spontaneous remission' True story. and that's why big pharma can do what they wish with those that claim a 'cure' 'They' own that word.... I used to consider myself indecisive, but now I'm not so sure |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1166366 United States 01/07/2011 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well guess it goes without saying, that we should never consider anything "a cure" I've heard of this type of semantic "gridlock" in other situations as well You just have to be careful before you set out to make a profit that you jump through all of the right hoops |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1157608 United States 01/07/2011 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The word 'cure' is legally defined. Quoting: BrekkyGuyOnly a 'drug' can 'cure'. Any other remedy or treatment resulting in an ailment being fixed must be termed as 'spontaneous remission' True story. and that's why big pharma can do what they wish with those that claim a 'cure' 'They' own that word.... ^^This^^ The shills to come with the cyanide angle I'm sure. [link to www.amazon.com] |
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what? User ID: 1178128 United States 01/08/2011 06:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | >never promote anything as a cure for anything, that's big pharma territory and they'll squash you like a bug! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1122898That's right. Isn't it ironic and hilarious that the very people who CAN'T AND WILL NEVER CURE ANYTHING, JUST POISON YOU(big pharma), are the very people who somehow obtained the right (of course illegally) to say..."no one else has the right to cure you, even if somebody else has something better and safer, only we can claim that, yet we are the least likely to entity to cure ANYTHING, and most likely will kill you with poisons phony pills and vaccines". INSANE! It is not insane if you follow the philosophy of Jesus Christ, it makes total sense. Good point you brought up, thanks. Remember my friends, now and in the very near future, what is hidden will be revealed to all. The darkness is about to have a great flashlight set upon it, watch the bugs scatter. This is in all matters great and small, near and far, personal to international intrique. It is time for time. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1137049 Netherlands 01/08/2011 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to en.wikipedia.org] Toxicity The metabolism of amygdalin produces hydrogen cyanide, a potent toxin. Beta-glucosidase, one of the enzymes that catalyzes the release of cyanide from amygdalin, is present in human small intestine and in a variety of common foods. This leads to an unpredictable and potentially lethal toxicity when amygdalin or laetrile is taken orally.[10][18][19] Ingestion of purified amygdalin or apricot seeds can cause severe toxicity and death due to cyanide poisoning.[14] Numerous case reports in the medical literature describe serious cyanide poisoning in patients who ingested laetrile as a cancer treatment.[7][20] Blood cyanide concentrations may be measured as a means of confirming the diagnosis in hospitalized patients or to assist in the forensic investigation of a fatal overdose.[21] Some laetrile promoters have claimed that the cyanide generated by laetrile is harmlessly detoxified by the mitochondrial enzyme rhodanese. However, these claims are false, as regardless of the level of rhodanese present, the body's available stores of cystine, cysteine, and other sulfates necessary to detoxify cyanide are rapidly depleted in laetrile poisoning.[7] U.S. Department of Justice United States Attorney -- Eastern District of New York One Pierrepont Plaza Brooklyn, New York 11201 Mailing Address: 147 Pierrepont St. Brooklyn NY 11201 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE July 22, 2003 Peggy Long, U.S. Attorney's Office: 718-254-6267 Jason Brodsky, FDA Office of Public Affairs: 301-827-6242 President of Queens Firm Found Guilty of Criminal Contempt For Violating Court Order Not to Market Bogus Cancer Cure Over the Internet ROSLYNN R. MAUSKOPF , United States Attorney for the Eastern District of New York, and MARK B. McCLELLAN , M.D., Ph.D., Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), announced today that a federal jury in Brooklyn, New York has convicted Jason Vale, president of the Queens based company Christian Brothers Contracting Corporation ("Christian Bros."), of three counts of criminal contempt in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 401(3). On April 20, 2000, in a civil suit brought by the United States against Vale and his company Christian Bros., the Honorable John Gleeson entered a preliminary injunction ordering Vale and Christian Bros., during the pendency of the civil suit, not to directly or indirectly sell, distribute, package, label, or promote Laetrile., also known as amygdalin, "Vitamin B-17," or apricot pits. On November 16, 2000, Judge Gleeson ended the civil suit by permanently ordering Vale and Christian Bros. not to sell, distribute, package, label, or promote Laetrile. For years before the civil suit was brought, Vale, through Christian Bros., had sold Laetrile over the Internet in order to cure and prevent cancer, having saturated the public with a massive Internet and "spam" E-mailing marketing campaign which guaranteed persons a cancer free life if they used his products. Laetrile is not approved as a drug for the treatment and prevention of cancer and evidence introduced during the civil suit demonstrated that Laetrile has no known effect on cancer and that it is highly toxic, breaking down in the human body into cyanide gas. Moreover, when cancer patients take Laetrile they often forego conventional medical therapies until it is too late for these therapies to be effective. An undercover investigation conducted by the United States Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of New York and by FDA's Office of Criminal Investigations demonstrated that Vale set up a shell corporation in Arizona through which he continued to sell Laetrile in complete disregard for the Court's injunctions. Although Vale announced over the Internet that he had stopped selling Laetrile because the court had ordered him not to sell it, he continued to tout Laetrile as a cure for cancer and further announced that there were other companies that still sold it. If customers called Christian Bros. and tried to purchase Laetrile, Vale and his employees told them that, although Christian Bros. no longer sold Laetrile, the customers could purchase Laetrile from a wholly unrelated company at a toll free number which he and his employees gave to them. The undercover investigation demonstrated that the toll free number rang inside Vale's own house and that Vale would send the Laetrile to customers from his house under the name of his Arizona shell corporation. Vale and his employees would stamp a Phoenix Arizona "return address" on these outgoing packages which was in fact nothing more than a mailbox which was rented in Phoenix Arizona with Vale's own credit card. A search warrant executed at the defendant's house during the undercover investigation demonstrated that after the preliminary injunction the defendant had stored in his basement ready to be shipped to customers around the world enough Laetrile to supply a single person for over 242 years. The jury announced the guilty verdicts on July 21, 2003, following the conclusion of a week long trial. During the trial, supporters of Vale had handed out leaflets to persons who entered the courthouse, including a number of the jurors who were deciding the contempt case against Vale. The leaflet told jurors that they had a constitutional right to ignore the evidence and the Court's instructions if they so chose. This incident was one of the factors taken into consideration by Judge Gleeson in ordering Vale held without bail pending his sentencing. United States Attorney ROSLYNN R. MAUSKOPF stated that "This office will not tolerate any disregard for the lawful orders of this Court. Nor will it tolerate fraud, especially when it foists dangerous products on a vulnerable public." Commissioner McCLELLAN stated that "The FDA takes seriously its responsibility to protect patients from unproven products being peddled on the internet by modern day snake oil salesmen such as the defendant in this case. There is no scientific evidence that Laetrile offers anything but false hope to cance patients." United States Attorney ROSALYNN R. MAUSKOPF wishes to thank the Office of Criminal Investigations of the Food and Drug Administration for its unstinting efforts to investigate this matter and assist in its prosecution. Sentencing is scheduled for October 24, 2003 at 2:00 p.m., before United States District Court Judge John Gleeson in Brooklyn. The government's case was prosecuted by Assistant United States Attorneys Charles S. Kleinberg and Patricia Pileggi. Marc L. Caden, Associate Chief Counsel to for Enforcement, is assigned to the case from the FDA. Defendants Name: Jason Vale DOB: 1968 Residence: 82-50 235th Street Bellrose Manor, New York 11427 Name: Christian Bros. Contracting Corp. Bus. Add: 82-50 235th Street, Bellrose Manor, New York 11427 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1006073 Netherlands 01/08/2011 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to en.wikipedia.org] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1137049Toxicity The metabolism of amygdalin produces hydrogen cyanide, a potent toxin. Beta-glucosidase, one of the enzymes that catalyzes the release of cyanide from amygdalin, is present in human small intestine and in a variety of common foods. This leads to an unpredictable and potentially lethal toxicity when amygdalin or laetrile is taken orally.[10][18][19] Ingestion of purified amygdalin or apricot seeds can cause severe toxicity and death due to cyanide poisoning.[14] Numerous case reports in the medical literature describe serious cyanide poisoning in patients who ingested laetrile as a cancer treatment.[7][20] Blood cyanide concentrations may be measured as a means of confirming the diagnosis in hospitalized patients or to assist in the forensic investigation of a fatal overdose.[21] Some laetrile promoters have claimed that the cyanide generated by laetrile is harmlessly detoxified by the mitochondrial enzyme rhodanese. However, these claims are false, as regardless of the level of rhodanese present, the body's available stores of cystine, cysteine, and other sulfates necessary to detoxify cyanide are rapidly depleted in laetrile poisoning.[7] U.S. Department of Justice United States Attorney -- Eastern District of New York One Pierrepont Plaza Brooklyn, New York 11201 Mailing Address: 147 Pierrepont St. Brooklyn NY 11201 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE July 22, 2003 Peggy Long, U.S. Attorney's Office: 718-254-6267 Jason Brodsky, FDA Office of Public Affairs: 301-827-6242 President of Queens Firm Found Guilty of Criminal Contempt For Violating Court Order Not to Market Bogus Cancer Cure Over the Internet ROSLYNN R. MAUSKOPF , United States Attorney for the Eastern District of New York, and MARK B. McCLELLAN , M.D., Ph.D., Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), announced today that a federal jury in Brooklyn, New York has convicted Jason Vale, president of the Queens based company Christian Brothers Contracting Corporation ("Christian Bros."), of three counts of criminal contempt in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 401(3). On April 20, 2000, in a civil suit brought by the United States against Vale and his company Christian Bros., the Honorable John Gleeson entered a preliminary injunction ordering Vale and Christian Bros., during the pendency of the civil suit, not to directly or indirectly sell, distribute, package, label, or promote Laetrile., also known as amygdalin, "Vitamin B-17," or apricot pits. On November 16, 2000, Judge Gleeson ended the civil suit by permanently ordering Vale and Christian Bros. not to sell, distribute, package, label, or promote Laetrile. For years before the civil suit was brought, Vale, through Christian Bros., had sold Laetrile over the Internet in order to cure and prevent cancer, having saturated the public with a massive Internet and "spam" E-mailing marketing campaign which guaranteed persons a cancer free life if they used his products. Laetrile is not approved as a drug for the treatment and prevention of cancer and evidence introduced during the civil suit demonstrated that Laetrile has no known effect on cancer and that it is highly toxic, breaking down in the human body into cyanide gas. Moreover, when cancer patients take Laetrile they often forego conventional medical therapies until it is too late for these therapies to be effective. An undercover investigation conducted by the United States Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of New York and by FDA's Office of Criminal Investigations demonstrated that Vale set up a shell corporation in Arizona through which he continued to sell Laetrile in complete disregard for the Court's injunctions. Although Vale announced over the Internet that he had stopped selling Laetrile because the court had ordered him not to sell it, he continued to tout Laetrile as a cure for cancer and further announced that there were other companies that still sold it. If customers called Christian Bros. and tried to purchase Laetrile, Vale and his employees told them that, although Christian Bros. no longer sold Laetrile, the customers could purchase Laetrile from a wholly unrelated company at a toll free number which he and his employees gave to them. The undercover investigation demonstrated that the toll free number rang inside Vale's own house and that Vale would send the Laetrile to customers from his house under the name of his Arizona shell corporation. Vale and his employees would stamp a Phoenix Arizona "return address" on these outgoing packages which was in fact nothing more than a mailbox which was rented in Phoenix Arizona with Vale's own credit card. A search warrant executed at the defendant's house during the undercover investigation demonstrated that after the preliminary injunction the defendant had stored in his basement ready to be shipped to customers around the world enough Laetrile to supply a single person for over 242 years. The jury announced the guilty verdicts on July 21, 2003, following the conclusion of a week long trial. During the trial, supporters of Vale had handed out leaflets to persons who entered the courthouse, including a number of the jurors who were deciding the contempt case against Vale. The leaflet told jurors that they had a constitutional right to ignore the evidence and the Court's instructions if they so chose. This incident was one of the factors taken into consideration by Judge Gleeson in ordering Vale held without bail pending his sentencing. United States Attorney ROSLYNN R. MAUSKOPF stated that "This office will not tolerate any disregard for the lawful orders of this Court. Nor will it tolerate fraud, especially when it foists dangerous products on a vulnerable public." Commissioner McCLELLAN stated that "The FDA takes seriously its responsibility to protect patients from unproven products being peddled on the internet by modern day snake oil salesmen such as the defendant in this case. There is no scientific evidence that Laetrile offers anything but false hope to cance patients." United States Attorney ROSALYNN R. MAUSKOPF wishes to thank the Office of Criminal Investigations of the Food and Drug Administration for its unstinting efforts to investigate this matter and assist in its prosecution. Sentencing is scheduled for October 24, 2003 at 2:00 p.m., before United States District Court Judge John Gleeson in Brooklyn. The government's case was prosecuted by Assistant United States Attorneys Charles S. Kleinberg and Patricia Pileggi. Marc L. Caden, Associate Chief Counsel to for Enforcement, is assigned to the case from the FDA. Defendants Name: Jason Vale DOB: 1968 Residence: 82-50 235th Street Bellrose Manor, New York 11427 Name: Christian Bros. Contracting Corp. Bus. Add: 82-50 235th Street, Bellrose Manor, New York 11427 Well, that can still be true, BUT! We are free to kill our selves using very toxic but legal products such as nicotine and alcohol, but when it comes down to curing your self from something that is in a way maybe equal toxic but probably helping to fight cancer you are doing something illegal??? That doesn't make the slightest sense and smells like 1st class criminal business. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1006073 Netherlands 01/08/2011 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fucking Laetrile Tards... Quoting: Cyanide Shill 1221965+1 IT'S LOADED WITH DEADLY CYANIDE!!! right, you should know hat your bionic big mac burger is filled with, it will look the same even after 10 years, no rotting no nothing. Have a nice (and happy) meal! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1006073 Netherlands 01/08/2011 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fucking Laetrile Tards... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1006073+1 IT'S LOADED WITH DEADLY CYANIDE!!! right, you should know hat your bionic big mac burger is filled with, it will look the same even after 10 years, no rotting no nothing. Have a nice (and happy) meal! bionic burger: Thread: The Bionic Burger! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1123488 United States 01/08/2011 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I applaude his efforts but ya can't go selling stuff online to tens of thousands of people and claim it cures something. Still the ridiculously high bail and prison sentence is enough to make me a believer in apricot seeds. I'll now make sure to have a supply on hand if I ever get cancer. Sometimes these idiots dig their own graves with their punishments.. kid of like making holocaust denial illegal. How stupid can they get? Now everyone knows about the seeds. What did they accomplish? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1123488 United States 01/08/2011 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can't claim to 'cure' anything. At best you can claim it 'treats' but only with the FDA's blessing. That's why everyone has disclaimers on their products. At best he should have said the seeds appeared to bring his cancer into remission and then added the usual disclaimer. It's just what happens when you try to do thing in this system without protecting your ass legally. |
Norwegian Hemp User ID: 1221008 Norway 01/08/2011 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are lots of bogus cancer cures out there. The only one I believe in is cannabinoids. I know some of u will say "one more dope-head that want his drug legalized" but do a search on pubmed.com using cancer and cannabinoids as search-string, and u can see for yourself... right from the source. Problem is they cant patent it as it is and need to make a synthetic drug to do any money on it... HEMP OIL CURES CANCER!!! Well, it has this side effect... it may make u start to think! I guess there are zillions of threads about this here on GLP but... |
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