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Evidence For Polar Shift Causing The Animal Death

 
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I don't doubt that there is a polar shift, and I believe we have yet to see the major consequences for that, but if these animals died from the magnetic shift of the poles, wouldn't all birds and fish that have magnetite have died all over the world? That is, the animal kill woould be much more massive.
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I wouldn't presume on it being a reversal so soon though, this could just be a fluctuation.
Different animals have different amounts of magnetite in their biology and depend on magnetic fields to different degrees. Which is why you see migratory species like Turtle Doves dying in Italy and Red-winged black birds in Arkansas. The two most mysterious cases in my opinion, which is why it's good to distinguish what biological similarities there are.

I think it is the case that too many people are grouping unrelated natural deaths with the more mysterious cases as if they hold the same merit. In this article they claim Billions of birds are shown to die every year....
[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
The thing that makes these cases special is the mysterious group deaths of falling out of the sky from eye-witness reports.
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@Rhodes....and all...

Still at work but I'm very curious about your response to this question I've also asked elsewhere.
What's happening here...


A) This is just our human brains pattern seeking..and there is no connection here between recent events and earths magnetism.

B) There is a connection, however due to the sciences having veered off into very very unique and specific specialities... the different branches have not collaborated information and have not found out this link.

OR...

C) 'They'...mysterious they....Governments I guess, know of this fluctuation in the field and do see the havoc that is starting to happen, but are trying their best to keep it hushed up?

If you have a D, E, F. that's find too.

bye..should be working..bad girl hahaha.

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@Rhodes....and all...

Still at work but I'm very curious about your response to this question I've also asked elsewhere.
What's happening here...


A) This is just our human brains pattern seeking..and there is no connection here between recent events and earths magnetism.

B) There is a connection, however due to the sciences having veered off into very very unique and specific specialities... the different branches have not collaborated information and have not found out this link.

C) 'They'...mysterious they....Governments I guess, know of this fluctuation in the field and do see the havoc that is starting to happen, but is trying it's best to keep it hushed up?

If you have a D, E, F. that's find too.

bye..should be working..bad girl hahaha.
 Quoting: platobird


[link to www.nytimes.com]
I suggest you read this very good article in 1992 of the works of Dr. Joseph Kirschvink pioneering magnetite in the human brain, I'm sure you will thoroughly enjoy it.
Who knows what else he has discovered by 2010 that hasn't made it through the peer-review process yet, would be interesting if someone in California could get in touch with him to give his opinions on the recent events.

[link to www.gps.caltech.edu]

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@Rhodes....and all...

Still at work but I'm very curious about your response to this question I've also asked elsewhere.
What's happening here...


A) This is just our human brains pattern seeking..and there is no connection here between recent events and earths magnetism.

B) There is a connection, however due to the sciences having veered off into very very unique and specific specialities... the different branches have not collaborated information and have not found out this link.

C) 'They'...mysterious they....Governments I guess, know of this fluctuation in the field and do see the havoc that is starting to happen, but is trying it's best to keep it hushed up?

If you have a D, E, F. that's find too.

bye..should be working..bad girl hahaha.


[link to www.nytimes.com]
I suggest you read this very good article in 1992 of the works of Dr. Joseph Kirschvink pioneering magnetite in the human brain, I'm sure you will thoroughly enjoy it.
Who knows what else he has discovered by 2010 that hasn't made it through the peer-review process yet, would be interesting if someone in California could get in touch with him to give his opinions on the recent events.

[link to www.gps.caltech.edu]
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Magnetite, in minuscule amounts, was found all over the brain, said Dr. Kirschvink and his co-authors, his wife, Atsuko Kobayashi-Kirschvink, and Dr. Barbara J. Woodford of the University of Southern California. Most regions of the brain had five million magnetite crystals per gram of tissue. The tough membrane that covers the brain had 100 million crystals per gram. Each human brain on average contains seven billion particles of magnetite, weighing a total of one-millionth of an ounce.

Magnetite interacts over a million times more strongly with external magnetic fields than any other biological material, Dr. Kirschvink said, including the iron in red blood cells. If only one cell in a million contains magnetite, he said, magnetic fields could exert an effect on the tissue.

For instance, if the magnetite were coupled to channels that let substances pass through cell membranes and the crystals began to oscillate during exposure to an external magnetic field, Dr. Kirschvink said, one could imagine all sorts of biological effects, including the promotion of cancer.

"It's very interesting work," said Dr. Charles Rafferty, who is in charge of studying health effects of magnetic fields at the Electric Power Research Institute in Menlo Park, Calif. "It does provide a possible link for biological effects."
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I updated the original posts for anyone that wanted more information on Magnetite/Maghemite in the human brain, while there is no evidence to support extrasensory perception or navigation like I said before, there is a possible connection to health effects more-so I would presume in Birds.

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Thanks Rhodes for taking my interest in human magnetite seriously. There is quit a bit of interesting research being done on magnetism on the human brain.
You didn't answer my a) b) or c) question? No opinion on that question?
No matter, although I'm improving on posting and moving up from completely computer illiteracy...I'm happy when I see someone else who is.

There's another avenue of thought happening, regarding earth's magnetism and animal deaths. I'm going to try to put two maps below. It's to do with the declination. Note the 0 declination lines. Bermuda triangle fans claim that compasses get mixed close to the 0 point. There likely wrong because the line doesn't neccessarily match up..even though it varies widely from year to year. Anyway. Here's the maps. You decide for yourself.

Errrrrr this site is different from last. how do I move picture.

Check it out yourself than please. Here's links.

[link to theglobalawakening.files.wordpress.com]

[link to www.geomag.us]

[link to www.compassdude.com]


Hope you check those out Rhodes, whether you see a connection or not?
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This idea was formed by someone else on another link...but I feel it bears investigation. Solar Magnetic Flux??

Look at the shape of the anomaly closely?? See below 1,2,3,4, go to third picture and look at the shape of the anomoly... You decide.


[link to www.newsnet5.com]

[link to media2.newsnet5.com]

[link to www.vets.ucar.edu]

[link to media2.newsnet5.com]


Somebody please tell me how to cut or drag a picture here? errrrrrrr

[link to media2.newsnet5.com]


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Thanks Rhodes for taking my interest in human magnetite seriously. There is quit a bit of interesting research being done on magnetism on the human brain.
You didn't answer my a) b) or c) question? No opinion on that question?
No matter, although I'm improving on posting and moving up from completely computer illiteracy...I'm happy when I see someone else who is.

There's another avenue of thought happening, regarding earth's magnetism and animal deaths. I'm going to try to put two maps below. It's to do with the declination. Note the 0 declination lines. Bermuda triangle fans claim that compasses get mixed close to the 0 point. There likely wrong because the line doesn't neccessarily match up..even though it varies widely from year to year. Anyway. Here's the maps. You decide for yourself.

Errrrrr this site is different from last. how do I move picture.

Check it out yourself than please. Here's links.

[link to theglobalawakening.files.wordpress.com]

[link to www.geomag.us]

[link to www.compassdude.com]


Hope you check those out Rhodes, whether you see a connection or not?
 Quoting: platobird


I didn't like the options lol because I'd have to make a tedious reply like this:

A) Human brains are always pattern seeking, just need to distinguish between making ridiculous connections and making good connections.

B) I think there definitely is a connection, how big or small it is I don't know. Changes in the magnetic field and poles don't just happen for no particular reason, the Sun has been going a bit crazy recently and has been muddling it. [link to www.scientificamerican.com]
(even though yes it is generated by the earth's core, but I see that as a constant given the time-scale it has been working)

About scientists....
There is so little known about how animals navigate and it's a fairly new topic of study, so of course they will give answers about areas there is a solid understanding.
Many scientists have a lot of contempt towards each other trying to prove their peers and colleagues wrong, but the controversy is barely reported in the media and only a small amount of people have experience in these types of academic circles.
It's largely a dis-function of the press also as they have to work super fast to compete with other news articles getting information out there first, so just want to get a quick out of context sound-bite from any expert even though he doesn't know enough about it yet. Academics also have extremely bad job security and can't say anything too presumptuous in case it ruins their career and they get fired. There are also extreme bureaucratic restrictions to get around. Largely imposed by governments to make sure taxpayers get their money's worth and also private investors.
I can say whatever I want because I'm still a student lol.

You're very right there is not much of a multi-disciplinary approach but that isn't the main problem, I'm sure many scientists are smart enough to find the link, they are just not in a position to speak.

C) Governments? A bunch of politicians won't know shit about what's going on, they are too busy on other problems. For government funded scientists (almost all) as explained in B.

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This idea was formed by someone else on another link...but I feel it bears investigation. Solar Magnetic Flux??

Look at the shape of the anomaly closely?? See below 1,2,3,4, go to third picture and look at the shape of the anomoly... You decide.


[link to www.newsnet5.com]

[link to media2.newsnet5.com]

[link to www.vets.ucar.edu]

[link to media2.newsnet5.com]


Somebody please tell me how to cut or drag a picture here? errrrrrrr

[link to media2.newsnet5.com]


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I'm not very good at Physics and I'm supposed to be revising for my Biochemistry exam haha. So I don't think I'll even attempt to have a go at making any connections with the workings of magnetic fields, I'm sure the scientists working on it themselves find it hard to understand.
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I'm not very good at Physics and I'm supposed to be revising for my Biochemistry exam haha. So I don't think I'll even attempt to have a go at making any connections with the workings of magnetic fields, I'm sure the scientists working on it themselves find it hard to understand.
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You might want to quick read Paul Brodeur's "Currents of Death" for good evidence that very weak alternating current magnetic fields cause great mischief in human cellular function.
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You might want to quick read Paul Brodeur's "Currents of Death" for good evidence that very weak alternating current magnetic fields cause great mischief in human cellular function.
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I'd take a bit of cancer for powerlines any day of the week.
Although I guess it wouldn't be that difficult to insulate the wires, but that would probably reduce the amount of voltage you could use.
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My question would be if this is true why is only a very very small percent of birds dying. Yeah 10.000 birds seems like a lot but not really when you think there is around 300 to 400 billion in the world.

I think if what your trying to say is true then we would be seeing die offs in the 10s of millions or bigger.
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If anyone could help me out with any more particular symptoms of the dead animals it would be great, because I have so little to work with.
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My question would be if this is true why is only a very very small percent of birds dying. Yeah 10.000 birds seems like a lot but not really when you think there is around 300 to 400 billion in the world.

I think if what your trying to say is true then we would be seeing die offs in the 10s of millions or bigger.
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That appears to be a very big leap of logic and a generalisation. Like I mentioned before, there are many differences biologically between birds and fish, some rely on magnetic fields more than others, plus the effects of magnetic fields would be different in different geographical locations.
So I'm yet to see anything wrong with the hypothesis that only a certain minority of birds or fish are effected, as it seems the most mysterious cases are the ones of migratory species that probably have the highest amount of magnetite.

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Thanks, OP AND others for the various articles, which further explain the connections, especially to the pineal gland, that is SO important in the production of various endocrine used to REGULATE numerous body functions/reaction to external stimuli ( fight - flee reaction comes to mind when adrenolin is released into the blood to instantly give us energy/power ), or even the melatonin for us to sleep.

Through out the microwave over 8 years ago, from reading about caner it induced in first users, and how even water molecules are NOT chemically/physically the same after mirowaving, let alone what it does to food !

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Getting late; even spelled my name wrong above; it's Egale 1 .

One thing that must have been mentioned before but I have NOT read IS, there could be hundreds of thousands of dead birds/fish, etc. where NO HUMANS are there to witness their dying, and with all the snow, COVERED UP !


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One of the most powerful magnets known to mankind is at cern lhc !!!!! Wonder if that one is having anything to do with the augmenting of the Earth's poles ?????????????
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I didn't like the options lol because I'd have to make a tedious reply like this:

A) Human brains are always pattern seeking, just need to distinguish between making ridiculous connections and making good connections.

B) I think there definitely is a connection, how big or small it is I don't know. Changes in the magnetic field and poles don't just happen for no particular reason, the Sun has been going a bit crazy recently and has been muddling it. [link to www.scientificamerican.com]
(even though yes it is generated by the earth's core, but I see that as a constant given the time-scale it has been working)

About scientists....
There is so little known about how animals navigate and it's a fairly new topic of study, so of course they will give answers about areas there is a solid understanding.
Many scientists have a lot of contempt towards each other trying to prove their peers and colleagues wrong, but the controversy is barely reported in the media and only a small amount of people have experience in these types of academic circles.
It's largely a dis-function of the press also as they have to work super fast to compete with other news articles getting information out there first, so just want to get a quick out of context sound-bite from any expert even though he doesn't know enough about it yet. Academics also have extremely bad job security and can't say anything too presumptuous in case it ruins their career and they get fired. There are also extreme bureaucratic restrictions to get around. Largely imposed by governments to make sure taxpayers get their money's worth and also private investors.
I can say whatever I want because I'm still a student lol.

You're very right there is not much of a multi-disciplinary approach but that isn't the main problem, I'm sure many scientists are smart enough to find the link, they are just not in a position to speak.

C) Governments? A bunch of politicians won't know shit about what's going on, they are too busy on other problems. For government funded scientists (almost all) as explained in B.
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Great answer...I agree, I should have made that option D. NOW I say it's a combination of B and D..ha!

Funding dollars.. AND ...REPUTATIONS can be stripped away if a scientist actually comes up with something that disputes long held views. My best example of that is Hugh Everett (wiki him). He was the first to come up with the MWI of quantum physics. He was quickly shunned and ridiculed. The Multiverse is only now, 50 some yrs later, considered a highly plausible explanation for the queer world at the quantum level. Very unfortunate!
If there are scientists out there that are even considering that magnetite and a'magnetic flip' is at the root of these problems ie.. beached whales... lost bees... befuddled birds, fish and crabs....they don't dare to be the first to speak up. Too bad!!!

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bump

Would just like to confirm from anyone with decent knowledge of the magnetic poles and fields, physics in general...
(could possibly give me links)

It's been shown over the years that the field was weakening which I'm not sure exactly what that means as it seems contradictory to my blue stain connection.
If the field is generated by the liquid core like a dynamo, if the magnetism increases does that make the magnetic field expand further into space and if it weakens would it drop closer to earth? Which by faradays law of induction might generate electromagnetic force by that movement onto the birds?
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Please Rhodes please tell be how to bring a picture over here....Funny how I can be so 'bright' in some matters and be a completely freak'n idiot with computers.

Ok...finding out new 'coincidences' about Beebe and bird deaths. Seems that 'fracking'..the process of fracturing rock formations to extract gas...has recently become common in that area of Arkansas. Some are saying it's the uncontrolled releasing of poisonous gas that is killing the birds. Yes..I would say that's one plausible cause.
But on this thread we're talking about how birds use magnetism..so I'll stick with that for now. So first off tolarate the god dam advertising and watch this cnn clip........ [link to www.cnn.com]




And this next link talks about magnetism and earthquakes....

"Scientists began working to understand how magnetism and gravity are related to earthquakes. Magnetism is an attraction to metals such as iron, nickel, cobalt, and their alloys. Its main character is a magnetic force. Though metals are more strongly influenced by magnetism all materials are under its influence to a degree."

[link to www.annalsofgeophysics.net]


So earthquakes= magnetic 'instability= bird's navigation system gone crazy ???? yes ...no...maybe so?

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Please Rhodes please tell be how to bring a picture over here....Funny how I can be so 'bright' in some matters and be a completely freak'n idiot with computers.

Ok...finding out new 'coincidences' about Beebe and bird deaths. Seems that 'fracking'..the process of fracturing rock formations to extract gas...has recently become common in that area of Arkansas. Some are saying it's the uncontrolled releasing of poisonous gas that is killing the birds. Yes..I would say that's one plausible cause.
But on this thread we're talking about how birds use magnetism..so I'll stick with that for now. So first off tolarate the god dam advertising and watch this cnn clip........ [link to www.cnn.com]




And this next link talks about magnetism and earthquakes....

"Scientists began working to understand how magnetism and gravity are related to earthquakes. Magnetism is an attraction to metals such as iron, nickel, cobalt, and their alloys. Its main character is a magnetic force. Though metals are more strongly influenced by magnetism all materials are under its influence to a degree."

[link to www.annalsofgeophysics.net]


So earthquakes= magnetic 'instability= bird's navigation system gone crazy ???? yes ...no...maybe so?
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I think pictures are restricted to paying members.
Interesting connection, I guess I'll look into it, seismic activity comes from the new madrid fault on that area.
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Thank you Rhodes about the picture thing!....I wished I'd asked you that days ago. I just usually think I'm being inept.

Yah...I know your busy, focused on school I take it. You kind of reinforce my analysis of why science hasn't put the picture together. They're all concentrating so specifically on their field of expertise. Hope you're getting A's, even if this stuff pulls you off focus..haha.
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SHORT AND INCOMPLETE ....BUT I give it great credence as it's off of usgs..????????? What are they saying in this link. Do you Rhodes or anyone get it?


[link to earthquake.usgs.gov]

TAKE A LOOK PLEASE...

OHHHHH...and if you keep hearing 'the powers the be' tell you that if earth's magnetic pole flips it would take centuries if not thousands of years to occur...don't take that as a complete given!!!!

[link to www.wired.com]

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BEE COLONY COLLAPSE.......


Just found this article..it's dead on! In my humble opinion..haha!

[link to www.growingproduce.com]


"Getting Lost (bees)
Before you decide we’re crazy, let us explain our logic. Some mysterious phenomenon causes entire, reasonably healthy colonies to abandon their hives. Most experts agree bees communicate amongst each other during a “waggle dance” that explains the coordinates of distant food sources. And, beekeepers all agree they do not know where colonies go when CCD strikes, so they must be lost. Therefore, we should study how bees might become “disoriented.”

Homing pigeons and magnetotactic bacteria have a magnetic compass that enables them to orient themselves. The basis for their ability to do so involves a mineral called magnetite, located in a sub cellular organelle called a magnetosome. It allows them to perceive Earth’s magnetic fields. Both organisms “get lost” when their ability to monitor those fields is interfered with. The most closely studied of the sun’s geomagnetic effects on an organism has been the degradation of a homing pigeon’s navigational abilities during a solar storm. Other migratory animals, notably dolphins and whales, become disoriented and they beach themselves. Thus, circumstantial evidence indicates that changes in earth’s magnetic field can affect a biological system that controls orientation. The sixth sense in such organisms is termed “magnetoception.”

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I sent this to

[link to www.newsnet5.com]

With corresponding links to back up each point. Ya just never know...eh? Eh's because I'm Canadian...eh?

1) Growing problems. Bees(colony collapse), beached whales, dead bats, birds, fish, crabs etc.(might want to add crickets to the list...seems they have a incurable 'virus').. are mysteriously dying.
2) All use the earth's magnetism to navigate via magnetite
3) Magnetite has been found in the beaks of birds
4) Strongly magnetized magnetite turns blue
5) Turtle doves in Italy were found with tinged blue beaks
6) Strange anomoly found on weather map in Beebe at the time of those bird deaths
7) Growing earthquake activity in Arkansas. (Madrid Fault)
8) Electromagnetic variations have been observed after earthquakes for many years now says USGS
9) Earths magnetism's poles are moving and decreasing in strength?
10) Before a magnetic pole shift the magnetism decreases, and becomes 'confused' Instead of 2 magnetic poles...earth could suddenly have 4,6,8?
11) We are presently over 500,000(approx) yrs overdue for a magnetic pole flip.
12) Earths solar shield that protects the planet has recently been found to have large unexpected hole leaving us vunerable to solar activity.

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It frustrates the 'hell' out of me that there isn't one place that has all the 'evidence' compiled. I talk here...and may sound whacky at times...because I talk elsewhere with other links of lines reasoning, yet nowhere do I see rational debate with every piece factored in!! Errrr...this I say again... is why nothing much definitive gets resolved in science today!!

I'm bringing a small piece of the puzzle over here from another thread. However, without following the whole thread, I don't know whether it will make much sense to anyone here.

Sheeeeeeeeeeet!!! I forgot that I can't move pics. Anyway.

Quote from Chronicnerd..


"Yep... all related...putting together an extensive video that will explain it all and how it could happen.

For the time being...check out this article:
[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]

And this one:
[link to www.cosmosmagazine.com]

Same concept...Magnetic Flux Tubes form on the Sun all the time based on this same theory/concept. The difference is the geomagnetic turbulence that was experienced during this time.

Pretty much, now that I have found all the pieces, I am almost 100% sure a short lived, high energy/magnetic, vortex (tornado) formed just about 5,000-8,000 feet above Beebe, Arkansas at the time of the birds' deaths. This resulted in:

Birds that flew too high got caught in a "suction" that temporarily caused extreme cooling and lack of oxygen...thus they simply fell and were dead prior to hitting the ground.

Birds that managed to stay lower were still confused due to the magnetic field disturbance and were flying into all sorts of buildings, signs, houses, cars, trees, etc...

Some...very few...but some birds managed to live through it.

The video will be done sometime tomorrow and will have all the information contained within it...not just speculative...but based on reports from many sources that are trying to piece it all together as well as information from NASA and other similar sources that talk about this specific phenomena. Of course, "Space Tornadoes" are not something they typically see in focused, low altitude, small, regions closer to the mid-latitude regions of the planet. These are typically seen around the North and South poles and at much higher altitudes."

It's accompanied by my pics and 'chronicnerd' pics. He's much more concerned with the hmmmmm.. 'physics' I guess, of the whole thing. Seems to know his stuff, but has no interest in the biology..ie magnetite as compass..stuff.
Whatever. I can only try.

Last Edited by platobird on 01/16/2011 02:05 PM





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