Why Is Gifford Subscribed To Loughner's YouTube?

very strange, nice find OP

Surely this matters enough not to fall off the first page again?

Yep, good find. That is interesting and makes one wonder.

Could it be that someone subscribed AFTER the shooting?

I know... none of it makes sense and either way it is bizarre.

I wish we could see when the page became a subscriber.

I have since the start felt like the page was a plant... and the fact that it is still up makes me believe it is indeed FAKE... WHO puts their first middle and last name up on YOU TUBE but not their face???

ALL of it points to handlers and gov. intervention/manipulation in this ugly mess.

He had YOUTUBE propaganda to spread. They want ppl to be exposed to his his fringe insane ideas.

I don't know about the Congresswoman being subscribed to his channel, though. Even with the ppl operating her channel, who would go out of their way to do that??? Psychotic.

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The shooter had been in personal contact with her before as noted in the news. Their meeting was breif, however, perhaps she was convinced enough to subscribe to his account?

That would be the supposed "second suspect".

Last Edited by Tumbleweed Hippy on 01/09/2011 10:05 AM

Meh... the actual, major culprits of this act will not be prosecuted. Their straw men will.

Good find, OP! She is subscribed to two channels.. and one is his??? Very strange indeed!

The find is good

From another thread:

[link to img717.imageshack.us]

It shows her being subscribed to the killer...notice the last login date....2 days ago. So she was subscribed before the shooting.

Did anyone notice that on JLL's channel all the descriptors are written in past tense?

last log in 9 hours ago....

hmmmm

Last google cache on Gifford's youtube page is Dec 2, 2010, 8 days before JLL put up his channel.

I call BS on that google cache. Youtube is crawled constantly.

Gifford's other subscribe is Congressman Ike Skelton , on his friends list is this ..... watch this !!!

[link to www.youtube.com]

That persons profile says this about himself .......

" ...... I.'VE GOT TORTURED FOR A LONG TIME FROM CRIMINALS CHINESE GOVERNMENT AND S.KOREAN GOVERNMENT AND CHONGRYON IN TOKYO Minand in Tokyo ....."

Is this guy next, this time in China?

wtf?

Last Edited by Tumbleweed Hippy on 01/09/2011 10:26 AM

I don't think anything about it. You do realize the congresswoman her self wasn't keeping track of all the social media, they have staffers that do that. They may have subscribed after the fact in case anyone else updates Loughner's channel (if he had accomplices). I'm sure Loughner got a lot of subscribers yesterday.

For Further investigation...

Very - just strange!

Pin! This discovery is a serious development that needs time to investigate.

Can someone post Loughlin's youtube page, FFS?

I can't see who Gifford is subscribed to. That or I can't find it.

There are only 2 subscriptions. Neither being Loughlins. Am I missing something or has it been changed?

Dig up yesterdays threads on it then.

Okay this is f'ing killing me. Where do you see this? I can't see who Gifford is subscribed to. Damnit.

Maybe her husband wanted to see the man who had just shot his wife in the head?

I don't usually comment much but felt I should. Perhaps one of her distraught family members was doing their own investigation into who shot "mom" and isn't particularly internet/youtube savvy and subscribed in order to bookmark who the assailant was. There's an innocuous way of interpreting this too that shouldn't be ruled out.

This is a complete smoking gun.

A) Why would Giffords subscribe to a complete nobody on Youtube, whose videos are all insane rants?
B) Even if there is a reasonable explanation for the above, what are the odds she subscribes to his page within the time range of mid-December when he made his youtube, and (according to last login date) January 6, 2 days before the shooting actually occured?

This needs to get attention, like, this is legitimately newsworthy and damning proof of something more going on.