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Why Is Gifford Subscribed To Loughner's YouTube?

 
Anonymous Coward
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Why do you think she was subscribed two days ago? There is no proof for that. YT is just unprecise and unreliable with timings as I have shown.

An admin/friend in chrage subscribing to the shooter is not as spectacular but much more likely.
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Re: Why Is Gifford Subscribed To Loughner's YouTube?
So he was sleepwalking
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01/09/2011 03:44 PM
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Re: Why Is Gifford Subscribed To Loughner's YouTube?
Being that the shooters youtube was started in oct 2010 she had to subscribe to him within the past 3 months.
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Re: Why Is Gifford Subscribed To Loughner's YouTube?
Start the fuck reading conspiracy nuts.
She wasnt subscribed before the shooting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1223807

Pardon me for being dense, how do you know this for certain?

I have a youtube channel, and. in order for me to subscribe to a channel, I have to be logged in...

Last Edited by DanfromtheHills on 01/09/2011 03:46 PM
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Start the fuck reading conspiracy nuts.
She wasnt subscribed before the shooting.
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Then explain why it shows her as a subscriber with the last login of 2 days ago
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Why do you think she was subscribed two days ago? There is no proof for that.

There is indeed more proof as opposed to no proof, there is the jpg of her YouTube that shows her subscribing 2 days ago.
 Quoting: Tumbleweed Hippy


That means nothing. Maybe YT had this just not updated or it wasnt registered at all. many users can even upload videos without triggering the "last visit".
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Re: Why Is Gifford Subscribed To Loughner's YouTube?
Has the MSM confirmed another man (supposedly in his 40's) was involved?
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Start the fuck reading conspiracy nuts.
She wasnt subscribed before the shooting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1223807

WTF?

Back in the thread is the goddamn screenshot of her page subscribing to shooter's page two days previous the shooting.
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01/09/2011 03:46 PM
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Re: Why Is Gifford Subscribed To Loughner's YouTube?
How does this Loughner guy get over 2 million hits in 2 months. Am i just crazy, or is that a little strange?

The news story is being posted endlessly on the MSM and on the Internet. There's loads of people who are checking out his YouTube page. I'm sure the visit counts were very low before this whole ordeal started.
 Quoting: MDZhB


I don't know if the youtube link posted at GLP yesterday was his original video or an upload done by someone else, but the vid of him burning the flag only had 341 visits when I watched it.

and I don't know if this means anything but this meeting was just around the corner from where Loughlin lived.
Maybe they were checking his youtube channel to see if he had uploaded any more vids with clues of if he planned on doing anything at the meeting in his home town??

What I find incredible about this though, is they knew he was a person of interest as he'd met her briefly before in 2008, they were worried enough to subscribe to his channel and yet there wasn't much security at the actual meeting....obviously cause he shot so many people.

so what gives with that???
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Re: Why Is Gifford Subscribed To Loughner's YouTube?
Why do you think she was subscribed two days ago? There is no proof for that.

There is indeed more proof as opposed to no proof, there is the jpg of her YouTube that shows her subscribing 2 days ago.


That means nothing. Maybe YT had this just not updated or it wasnt registered at all. many users can even upload videos without triggering the "last visit".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1223807


No you cant....

You have to login to upload and last login means just that, last login...

And how do you subscribe to someone when you arent signed in...

BS
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Re: Why Is Gifford Subscribed To Loughner's YouTube?
Start the fuck reading conspiracy nuts.
She wasnt subscribed before the shooting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1223807

Prove it? You can't!

There is still only 2 options:

1. She was subscribed before the shooting, proof of which being "Last Login: 2 days ago" (Jan. 6) still showing her as subscribed
2. Someone subscribed her within HOURS of the shooting actually occuring, and did not have to physically log into her account to do so (The account was left logged in somewhere - doubtful, as this is a politicians business youtube).

Why would somebody close to her bother to subscribe her youtube not even a day after she's been shot in the head?

Fucking retarded idea that is.
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Re: Why Is Gifford Subscribed To Loughner's YouTube?
Start the fuck reading conspiracy nuts.
She wasnt subscribed before the shooting.

Pardon me for being dense, how do you know this for certain?

I have a youtube channel, and. in order for me to subscribe to a channel, I have to be logged in...
 Quoting: DanfromtheHills

Planting evidence after the fact is Normal operating procedure.
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That means nothing. Maybe YT had this just not updated or it wasnt registered at all. many users can even upload videos without triggering the "last visit".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1223807

That was already rationalized - uploading does not trigger a last visit update. Logging in does.

Or maybe this or maybe that, reachin' aren't ya?

Damn, which agency do YOU work for?
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pin this
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lol you are all idiots. thats not her fuckin youtube account
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Re: Why Is Gifford Subscribed To Loughner's YouTube?
From personal experience, folks, State Reps and other reps have FaceBook pages, and they have also visited the blogs, etc., of constituents.

It's not unusual, and if Giffords is subscribed to the shooter's account, a staffer or aide probably did it.

Remember that the shooter did have personal contact with her as per a woman who was with him at the time.

It's either a hack job or he came on the radar at Giffords office for some reason.
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Did anyone else notice (not sure which video, was last night) that he says in one of his videos, well in the text, something about "sleepwalking."

And goes into details about how he sleepwalks?
 Quoting: 2012Portal

Mind-controlled killer?
It seems the MK-Ultra project is still alive and well.
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01/09/2011 03:49 PM
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Start the fuck reading conspiracy nuts.
She wasnt subscribed before the shooting.

Pardon me for being dense, how do you know this for certain?

I have a youtube channel, and. in order for me to subscribe to a channel, I have to be logged in...

Planting evidence after the fact is Normal operating procedure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1188711

So, some higher up at the Youtube website is screwing with things?
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lol you are all idiots. thats not her fuckin youtube account
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Go on...
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lol you are all idiots. thats not her fuckin youtube account
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1218920

Then why is it linked to on her personal website?

I have lost all faith in this website just based on the past 4-5 hours of discussion.

Thanks OP, thank you to some of the other posters with which I discussed ideas in an effort to get to the bottom of this.

The shills and morons have arrived, but we know what's up.
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lol you are all idiots. thats not her fuckin youtube account
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1218920

Boy you guys are coming out now.

It is indeed her YouTube page, it is even linked to from her own congresswoman site.

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The shills and morons have arrived, but we know what's up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1217227

Indeed

Last Edited by Tumbleweed Hippy on 01/09/2011 03:51 PM
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lol you are all idiots. thats not her fuckin youtube account
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Re: Why Is Gifford Subscribed To Loughner's YouTube?
How does this Loughner guy get over 2 million hits in 2 months. Am i just crazy, or is that a little strange?

The news story is being posted endlessly on the MSM and on the Internet. There's loads of people who are checking out his YouTube page. I'm sure the visit counts were very low before this whole ordeal started.


I don't know if the youtube link posted at GLP yesterday was his original video or an upload done by someone else, but the vid of him burning the flag only had 341 visits when I watched it.

and I don't know if this means anything but this meeting was just around the corner from where Loughlin lived.
Maybe they were checking his youtube channel to see if he had uploaded any more vids with clues of if he planned on doing anything at the meeting in his home town??

What I find incredible about this though, is they knew he was a person of interest as he'd met her briefly before in 2008, they were worried enough to subscribe to his channel and yet there wasn't much security at the actual meeting....obviously cause he shot so many people.

so what gives with that???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 660494

The video of him(?) burning a flag was on a different account. He had it favorited on his own.

I dunno about the view counts. Sometimes they seem to get "stuck" and then will suddenly shoot up. (example: popular video gets uploaded, it has 300 views for a few days, then suddenly jumps to 300,000)
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lol you are all idiots. thats not her fuckin youtube account
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SHE LINKS TO IT FROM HER OWN WEBSITE, MORAN
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there are so many anti conspiracy anti 2012 websites with those members coming here to try to discredit everything

they accuse the conspiracy movement of being cult like yet they are exhibiting cult like behaviors
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The shills and morons have arrived, but we know what's up.

Indeed
 Quoting: Tumbleweed Hippy

Yeah, and not very good ones at that...
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Re: Why Is Gifford Subscribed To Loughner's YouTube?
Start the fuck reading conspiracy nuts.
She wasnt subscribed before the shooting.

Pardon me for being dense, how do you know this for certain?

I have a youtube channel, and. in order for me to subscribe to a channel, I have to be logged in...

Planting evidence after the fact is Normal operating procedure.

So, some higher up at the Youtube website is screwing with things?
 Quoting: DanfromtheHills

Agreed and he was under hypnosis at the time of the shooting the handler left when the shooting started. They are getting sloppy
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lol you are all idiots. thats not her fuckin youtube account
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1218920


Hey moron

[link to www.giffords.house.gov]

Look on the right side of her page, half way down and see the link to HER youtube acct
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Re: Why Is Gifford Subscribed To Loughner's YouTube?
Start the fuck reading conspiracy nuts.
She wasnt subscribed before the shooting.

WTF?

Back in the thread is the goddamn screenshot of her page subscribing to shooter's page two days previous the shooting.

 Quoting: Tumbleweed Hippy

For those of us that are skimming, could you link the page please?
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