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Why Is Gifford Subscribed To Loughner's YouTube?

 
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any suggestions why there is no mug shot of loughner yet?
 Quoting: fishy indeed 1224198

[link to tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com]

check out what the fourth poster down in the replies says about that....

"I don't understand how Internet scrubbing works. Last night someone posted a link to the shooter's web accounts. I saw two very early videos of Loughner and a friend as tweens talking about doing a posting every week in lieu of keeping a journal. Then there was a posting of Jared going on about a new haircut. At that point he appeared to have moles on his face. I hit a favorite on one of the sites and got a posting of a portly man ranting about how calling folks who criticized Obama racists was just fomenting racial tension. His eyes bulged every time he felt he was making a point. And then I hit, IIRC, one of the suggestions at the side of the You Tube post and got a college age kid who looked somewhat like Jared but didn't have moles being interviewed during a haircut in a barbershop about his political views. I couldn't tell what the camera angle was nor if the speaker was aware of the camera which was placed so that the speaker was full face while the barber was mostly in profile. Now I can't find any of these. Did anyone else see them? And who and why and how were these sites scrubbed? "
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any suggestions why there is no mug shot of loughner yet?


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 Quoting: fishy indeed 1224198
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Rep. Gabrielle Giffords was one of 19 Democrat Congressmen that voted against Nancy Pelosi as the new Minority Leader.


Perhaps they're worried that someone will ID him
as a Pelosi-hired Hitman.





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Monarc programing one of the favorites of Loughner's was the wizzard of oz!!
[link to www.apfn.org]
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Excelent link
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Married to her hubby 3 years but have only spent a few weeks together.


If you ask me, they BARELY knew each other.

And other thing?

That sounds a whole lot like "leading a fake life"...

Like an agent lifestyle.

agent



I agree, MO. So many things about this case are truly bizarre. I still think a lot of this is smoke and mirrors for the real hit on the judge ...
Thread: UPDATE!!! Sherrif Mack: Assassinated Judge Roll was Top Constitutionalist; Real Target?
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Agreed
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Maybe this will help people out:

Alice in Wonderland

[link to causapatet.blogspot.com]
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`motion.
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I agree, MO. So many things about this case are truly bizarre. I still think a lot of this is smoke and mirrors for the real hit on the judge ...
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Maybe this will help people out:

Alice in Wonderland

[link to causapatet.blogspot.com]
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I would love to read that, but his background gets in the way.
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Married to her hubby 3 years but have only spent a few weeks together.


If you ask me, they BARELY knew each other.

And other thing?

That sounds a whole lot like "leading a fake life"...

Like an agent lifestyle.

agent



I agree, MO. So many things about this case are truly bizarre. I still think a lot of this is smoke and mirrors for the real hit on the judge ...
Thread: UPDATE!!! Sherrif Mack: Assassinated Judge Roll was Top Constitutionalist; Real Target?

Agreed
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have you seen the parents of the 9/11 girl on TV? they are obvious plants. how can u give an interview right after losing your child so tragically. does she exist even?
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i just heard on the NBC special on this, "that he fired round after round from an extended clip." he bought his gun from a chain sporting goods store. would they even sell an extended clip there???
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Wanted to post these links again, because I think they are extremely pertinent to all of this ...........

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CIA Asset Susan Lindauer blows the whistle on 9/11, Iraq
Sunday, January 09, 2011


[link to mikephilbin.blogspot.com]

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One of the fiercest gun-control advocates in Congress, Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.), pounced on the shooting massacre in Tucson Sunday, promising to introduce legislation as soon as Monday.

[link to www.politico.com]

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From above link, Page 2

Another vocal supporter for gun control, Illinois Rep. Mike Quigley, told POLITICO that he hopes “something good” can come from the Arizona tragedy – perhaps discussion on a new assault weapon ban, sales at gun shows and tracing measures.

[link to www.politico.com]

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Guns will be strictly controlled, even if they can't play off this tragedy enough to gain enough votes, they will find a way.
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Wanted to post these links again, because I think they are extremely pertinent to all of this ...........

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CIA Asset Susan Lindauer blows the whistle on 9/11, Iraq
Sunday, January 09, 2011


[link to mikephilbin.blogspot.com]

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 Quoting: Tumbleweed Hippy
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I suspect Rep. Gabrielle Giffords was going to
Whistleblower on the secrets hidden by the
Democratic Congress for the last four years.



Pelosi, Reid and the rest have a lot of skeletons that are
about to be investigated by the new Conservative Congress!






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i just heard on the NBC special on this, "that he fired round after round from an extended clip." he bought his gun from a chain sporting goods store. would they even sell an extended clip there???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1170889


In Arizona, it is "legal" to carry open or concealed without a permission slip from the government. It doesn't matter if he had a 30 rd mag or a 10 rd mag ... you can swap mags in 1 second.
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Well, that's that, the unpin says it's time for this thread to die.

But it had over 20,000 views before doing so!

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i just heard on the NBC special on this, "that he fired round after round from an extended clip." he bought his gun from a chain sporting goods store. would they even sell an extended clip there???


In Arizona, it is "legal" to carry open or concealed without a permission slip from the government. It doesn't matter if he had a 30 rd mag or a 10 rd mag ... you can swap mags in 1 second.
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but can you buy the extended mags at the sports store they said he bought it at?
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Well, that's that, the unpin says it's time for this thread to die.

But it had over 20,000 views before doing so!
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I think it still deserves to continue to be pinned. It's been a fascinating thread. Thanks OP.
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I don't know if it's already been posted or mentioned but if you notice, Gifford's page was logged into recently since the shooting... they obviously added psychos page to keep an eye on it. That isn't HER youtube... one of her helpers is in charge of it.
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I don't know if it's already been posted or mentioned but if you notice, Gifford's page was logged into recently since the shooting... they obviously added psychos page to keep an eye on it. That isn't HER youtube... one of her helpers is in charge of it.
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They can keep an eye on his page easily without the riduculousness of the appearance of her subscribing to him.
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Caught this in another thread.

At the shot congresswoman's YouTube, she has a subscription to her own shooters webpage. Why?

Gifford's YouTube, subscriptions in bottom left corner:

[link to www.youtube.com]

And with that, why is this ONE YouTube page of the shooter still available, when everything else of him has been taken down? This, the shooters YouTube page, is also the one page that the MSN reference to endlessly.

Any ponders?

Thanks to AC fishy indeed for the find.

 Quoting: Tumbleweed Hippy



Check her Budget committee testimony, and you will see why this Rookie was sent a Bourne Identity style assassin! The powers at be DON'T want to stop Illegal immigration or drugs from coming in!
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I don't know if it's already been posted or mentioned but if you notice, Gifford's page was logged into recently since the shooting... they obviously added psychos page to keep an eye on it. That isn't HER youtube... one of her helpers is in charge of it.


They can keep an eye on his page easily without the riduculousness of the appearance of her subscribing to him.
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Very true.. but who says they're being ridiculed. I think it's a damn good idea to have it out in the open. No conspiracy.. just a bad idea.
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Gifford's other subscribe is Congressman Ike Skelton , on his friends list is this ..... watch this !!!

[link to www.youtube.com]

That persons profile says this about himself .......

" ...... I.'VE GOT TORTURED FOR A LONG TIME FROM CRIMINALS CHINESE GOVERNMENT AND S.KOREAN GOVERNMENT AND CHONGRYON IN TOKYO Minand in Tokyo ....."

Is this guy next, this time in China?

wtf?
 Quoting: Tumbleweed Hippy


Look at thatnose under the ski mask. That dude isn't Asian!
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Caught this in another thread.

At the shot congresswoman's YouTube, she has a subscription to her own shooters webpage. Why?

Gifford's YouTube, subscriptions in bottom left corner:

[link to www.youtube.com]

And with that, why is this ONE YouTube page of the shooter still available, when everything else of him has been taken down? This, the shooters YouTube page, is also the one page that the MSN reference to endlessly.

Any ponders?

Thanks to AC fishy indeed for the find.

 Quoting: Tumbleweed Hippy



You all seem anxious to find conspiracy. I'd suggest you pay better attention to the facts like the Gifford page states the user is 27 yrs old and obviously means an aid who may be as removed from the actual person as a volunteer.

While it is sad that anyone was shot the tragedy of deaths on top of it is only overshadowed by the hypocrisy of those who would use a tragedy to further their goals whether in government or those looking for fault within the government.

In truth everyone is responsible for their words and actions and that goes for Palin and Alex Jones types as well who is only inciting the simple minded and goading them into actions that fills someones agenda. Who or what entity that is may never be known or may be as obvious as the money trail.

The point is, leave intelligence gathering to those better equipped in the logic department otherwise you perpetuate the half-truths that have distorted this countries reality.

Conjecture belongs in the mind of the conjurer not for public dissemination when the public at large are unable to distinguish opinion from reality.

The end result of an internet run amuck will be restrictions and when that happens free access to actual real-time information becomes a thing of the past. You are all responsible for your words and the net makes those words eternal... while the technology is still allowable for the masses... or would you rather the net become restricted like the freedom oppressed nations instead?

A kill switch has been talked about for some time, don't give them the need as motivation

Food for thought
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The real target is our guns, anyhow ...

And our Interwebz !!!

We could no longer congregate and discuss like we are now.

We would no longer know what they do, as a whole.
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Aint no one taking our guns or our web. They are testing the fences, just like mandated vaccines, corexit, cap & trade, health care etc, but its only a test.

Some of you really need to step back, take a real close look at how mighty, powerful and pissed Americans are. 250,000,000 armed people, American people, aren't someone you just false flag to death.
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Those in power are aware of this fact. Why else would they have built hundreds of detention centres (concentration camps to some) and why would they be militarising the Police Forces and building up the numbers by importing non-American militia ?
They know that you guys are pissed off and armed!
Whether it's a false-flag or not you must treat it as if it is because they're going to use it and ride it into the ground in their attempts to disarm and GAG the American people.
Please keep your cool, don't play into their hands, their house of cards is about to collapse soon without the need for violence.
However YOU MUST KEEP YOUR GUNS just in case and, of course,[youtube] your FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
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A lot of... slower people on GLP are still under the impression that there's a good side and a bad side.

Sigh... So much work to be done before any real change will happen

Don't fret there, Canada...

... Most "people" here are really paid shills. Their job is to create the illusion that we're stupid.

I'm not stupid.

I know the left wing of the bird and the right wing of a bird is still the same bird.

I protest and don't vote... haven't done so for 23 years.

Just say no. Say no to voting.
Say no to scare mongering.

Enjoy life. Stop watching the news. It's a whopper of a lie.

Must watch 17-minute video as proof of 60 Minutes faking the Israel/Palestine conflict:



Direct link: [link to www.youtube.com]
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Great a Zionist shill here to give us his hasbara's worth.
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I think for the record that we the people were the target. The deaths were probably useful enough to someone in each case on its own but over all the real reason will have been the usual Hegelian dialetic and the solution of decreased freedom, increased invasion of our privacy and further erosion of liberty on all fronts. Designed not to make our lives safer, but to make our masters' lives easier.

Sucks to be trapped among the sheeple when you can see the man behind the curtain so clearly now.
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Look at the date to reveal january 10, so that website was put together by an impostor. Jared lee's site
was put together octuber 25, 2010.

There is however something very interesting ; Jared's videos
were climbing through the roof hitting close to 2 million hits 3 weeks ago despite the poor visuals or production quality of his video.. i did like his music however.

HOw IS THIS POSSIBLE?

Are we talking precognition on the part of viewers or

Jared's possession of a powerful hit generated software?

Please reply
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i viewed it only moments after the tragedy, he only had 300 hits.





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