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Why Is Gifford Subscribed To Loughner's YouTube?

 
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Could it be that someone subscribed AFTER the shooting?

I know... none of it makes sense and either way it is bizarre.

I wish we could see when the page became a subscriber.

I have since the start felt like the page was a plant... and the fact that it is still up makes me believe it is indeed FAKE... WHO puts their first middle and last name up on YOU TUBE but not their face???

ALL of it points to handlers and gov. intervention/manipulation in this ugly mess.
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They would have had to have access to her Youtube account via password etc. I believe she must have been a subscriber. Very strange indeed.


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Re: Why Is Gifford Subscribed To Loughner's YouTube?
Her husband is an astronaut. I have a feeling that her husband knew a little ''too much'' and someone made an example of his wife and her co-workers. Maybe her co-workers were told about something that they shouldnt have known eather. Who knows ?
 Quoting: MG-42

Yes, her husband Mark Kelly has been on 3 or 4 missions and scheduled for another in April of this year. He also has a twin brother who is an astronaut as well...

What the hell is going on here?
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Actually the Illuminati have orchestrated this whole thing to clamp down on internet, and guns, and outsiders, and further isolate their purchased senators from the people.

They want the senators to hate and fear the people and smooze over to their corner.

Remember the senate speaker said: "A shot against one is a shot against us all"

Anyone can see where this is going.
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has anyone thought maybe this isnt her real page and the nutcase has made this page just so he could subscribe to himself.
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Nah, it's the real thing. Her website [link to giffords.house.gov] links to it.
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"It's all rigged..."

-Sen. Michael Bennet (D-Colo.)
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The only explanation that isn't conspiratorial in nature would be that Loughner contacted her, or her campaign manager, and SOMEHOW talked them into subscribing to his insane youtube page.

This seems very unreasonable.
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The only explanation that isn't conspiratorial in nature would be that Loughner contacted her, or her campaign manager, and SOMEHOW talked them into subscribing to his insane youtube page.

This seems very unreasonable.
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Yeah, it does.
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Her husband is an astronaut. I have a feeling that her husband knew a little ''too much'' and someone made an example of his wife and her co-workers. Maybe her co-workers were told about something that they shouldnt have known eather. Who knows ?

Yes, her husband Mark Kelly has been on 3 or 4 missions and scheduled for another in April of this year. He also has a twin brother who is an astronaut as well...

What the hell is going on here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1217227




As soon as I found out that her husband is an astronaut for NASA, thats all I could pay attention to. Now I find out his brother is one too... hmmmmmm, something seems VERY fishey about this. And since we have had plenty of high-profile shootings in the past which didnt make any sense, I think we might be able to chalk this one up on the conspiracy chart aswell. Something is going on here.
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OK

That is pretty fucking weird...

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Someone logged in to her youtube account 10 hrs ago... probably a Family Member following the shooter's page.

Or something.

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They were sleeping together. neener2
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One more recap and then I'm done, since people are taking note:

Giffords youtube is subscribed to Jared Loughners youtube.

This screen cap:

[link to img717.imageshack.us]

proves that she must have been subscribed to his page BEFORE the shootings occured (Last login date is "2 days ago", and this was capped yesterday).

So... A congresswoman is subscribed to a mans page which is full of apparently insane rants, which was created no more than 3-4 weeks ago itself. This man ends up shooting her.
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Her husband is an astronaut. I have a feeling that her husband knew a little ''too much'' and someone made an example of his wife and her co-workers. Maybe her co-workers were told about something that they shouldnt have known eather. Who knows ?



Sigh.

I wondered how long it would take.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1223321


lmao

No you didn't. You didn't wonder "how long it would take." You wanted to post it yourself and are kicking yourself for missing the opportunity.
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Why isn't this pinned? IMO this is one of the most important things discovered in this whole ordeal.
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Why does her age say 27 ????
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Someone logged in to her youtube account 10 hrs ago... probably a Family Member following the shooter's page.

Or something.

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 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan



As I said earlier probably her husband trying to make sense of it all.
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OK

That is pretty fucking weird...

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Well I'll be damned. It's our old pal Snake Airlines.

How was your recent training at Quantico or Bohemian Grove or wherever you shills go for your 'education'?
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Caught this in another thread.

At the shot congresswoman's YouTube, she has a subscription to her own shooters webpage. Why?

Gifford's YouTube, subscriptions in bottom left corner:

[link to www.youtube.com]

And with that, why is this ONE YouTube page of the shooter still available, when everything else of him has been taken down? This, the shooters YouTube page, is also the one page that the MSN reference to endlessly.

Any ponders?

Thanks to AC fishy indeed for the find.

 Quoting: Tumbleweed Hippy


The only thing in my opinion that makes sense is that this could be like a "Stevie/Trinity" type of thing where he was stalking her and she subscribed to his account in order to keep tabs on him.....
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Why does her age say 27 ????
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Possibly someone else (campaign manager or something of the sort) set up her YouTube account for her, and just put in his own birth date, not realizing that it would be displayed.

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And again.. No, the subscription was NOT after the shooting occured.

The subscription to his page was without a doubt a minimum of 2 days before the shooting occured. This was not a family member or campaign manager subscribing after the shooting "to research".

This photo is a huge smoking gun, again note the "last login date" of 2 days ago, or Jan. 6 2011

[link to img717.imageshack.us]
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putin

Someone pass the Excedrin...
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One more recap and then I'm done, since people are taking note:

Giffords youtube is subscribed to Jared Loughners youtube.

This screen cap:

[link to img717.imageshack.us]

proves that she must have been subscribed to his page BEFORE the shootings occured (Last login date is "2 days ago", and this was capped yesterday).

So... A congresswoman is subscribed to a mans page which is full of apparently insane rants, which was created no more than 3-4 weeks ago itself. This man ends up shooting her.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1217227



Ok yeah... that's full-on bizarroland (if not Photoshopped).

Last Edited by ScrumpTheTexan on 01/09/2011 11:37 AM
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this is like an episode of the X-files or the outer limits(1995)
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OK

That is pretty fucking weird...

scratching


Well I'll be damned. It's our old pal Snake Airlines.

How was your recent training at Quantico or Bohemian Grove or wherever you shills go for your 'education'?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 982910


Lay off the pipe Cletus...

Your gibbering again...
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This is quite amazing, they either want us to know its false flag or they are REALLY THAT FUCKING LAZY?!
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lmao

No you didn't. You didn't wonder "how long it would take." You wanted to post it yourself and are kicking yourself for missing the opportunity.
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Nope. Even last night I wondered how long it would take for someone to make the leap to the faithful old Capricorn One theory.

Still nice to see evolution in action. rockon
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Her husband is an astronaut. I have a feeling that her husband knew a little ''too much'' and someone made an example of his wife and her co-workers. Maybe her co-workers were told about something that they shouldnt have known eather. Who knows ?



Sigh.

I wondered how long it would take.


lmao

No you didn't. You didn't wonder "how long it would take." You wanted to post it yourself and are kicking yourself for missing the opportunity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 982910




LOL,

Yeah, as soon as I found that out the conspiracy mind just kicked in. Also, Im going to research this further but I doubt we'll be able to get much more info on her husband. Since everything NASA does involves them being tight-lipped.
Or at least they try to be.
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Why does her age say 27 ????
 Quoting: Monthly Cycle 1223217


They use an old mathematical formula.

It's pretty complicated but basically you take the current year and subtract the year that is entered as the date of birth.

The Egyptians and the builders of Stonehenge used similar mathematics.


































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Re: Why Is Gifford Subscribed To Loughner's YouTube?
Ok, so I looked at this with an open mind.

Her current YouTube page has her accessing her channel 10 hours ago. It is currently 11:30 EST on Sunday, so it would be 9:30 MST, which means somebody accessed her channel around midnight on Saturday night (after the shooting).

In short, based on the information available on YouTube, nothing is awry, as it seems very reasonable that somebody in her family could have subscribed after the shooting.

But, the Imageshack file posted here suggests that she was subscribed BEFORE the shooting.

Which creates a few possibilities:

1) The Imageshack file has been altered.
2) The Congresswoman subscribed for some reason.
3) Somebody in her family or staff subscribed.
4) Somebody hacked her account and subscribed.

The Imageshack file does not have a date on it, but if it is real, it had to be created before midnight on Saturday night (when the "last login" date was updated). Assuming whomever took the screenshot did it on Saturday after the shooting, then the last login would have been sometime on Thursday afternoon/evening, which means IF THE IMAGESHACK IMAGE IS GENUINE, either:

1) Someone close to the Congresswoman was aware of Loughlin and interested/concerned enough to subscribe to his channel.

2) Her channel had been previously hacked and the hacker had subscibed her.

I would personally like to see some evidence that the Imageshack image is genuine. It is just too easy to alter an image like that, but if it is genuine, this was not some random act. The Congresswoman or her staff KNEW of Loughlin.

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