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Moon is wrong in the sky tonight

 
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Only on GLP can a perpetual defender of all things weird in the sky say without hesitation that a PhD is wrong. lol


I'd be willing to say it any place if the evidence showed it. Not all astronomers watch or care about the sky.
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wtf
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Saw it low and "red" tinted last night, looking like a smiley. My boyfriend even said it looked odd. It faded and was west at an odd time...strange. I thought I was just seeing weird shit, but it really is strange...

SE Michigan here.


Also noticed two "lines" in the sky tonight. Between dusk and night time. I was out shopping and by the time I got home there would have been no way to get a clear pic of them...one of them was going west to about northeast. The other -- Southwest to Northeast. It was strange no doubt...these were not contrails nor chemtrails. They were SOLID lines but faint in the sky...
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It's supposed to be like that.

Here's a screenshot from skyview cafe

[link to picasaweb.google.com]

skyviewcafe.com


According to this astronomer, it should only happen once every 7-14 months. Happens a lot more frequently now.


Q: How often does a 'Dry Moon' happen with the horns of the Moon pointed straight up?

A 'Dry Moon' requires that the Moon's orbit be nearly perpendicular to the horizon above the setting Sun. On February 8, 1997 this condition was satisfied from some locations on the Earth.

-- snip --

The Moon visits the same RA as the Sun once each month. To be there within a few days after New Moon happens about once every 29/2 or 29/4 months or once each 7-14 months I would estimate depending on whether you choose a 2 or 4 day old crescent phase.

[link to www.astronomycafe.net]
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Hey, great thread I think,....ya...I think....

Anyhoos..... so like can you give me the 'Dry Moon' totals based on a 2 day old crescent phase? Great man, thanks an alls, it's just that I too calculated the rough amoount based on that dry crusty old moon cheese man freakazoid phase and i just wanted to be sure I got my figures similar to yours.

Yeah, like thanks pal, ya.









Meantime... moshpit

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please go see a doctor
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why is this happening? why are people just noticing this now?? i'm one of them!!!!!
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Only on GLP can a perpetual defender of all things weird in the sky say without hesitation that a PhD is wrong. lol


I'd be willing to say it any place if the evidence showed it. Not all astronomers watch or care about the sky.


wtf
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It's true. One doesn't have to look at the sky to study star formation. Or do the math and physics. Solving problems is different from skywatching.
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please go see a doctor
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moshpit

... dude I'm sorry I couldn't hear ya over all that noise man!

I mean, can you dig that sht?

moshpit moshpit moshpit moshpit moshpit
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Reality420 predicted the alarm here: Thread: WTF The sun set DUE WEST tonight and rose this morning in the SOUTH SOUTH EAST !!! (Page 16)

"I disagree Postman. The Moontards show a strong attraction to summer when the full moon skims low above the horizon.
"OMG!!! Go out and look at the moon!!!!!!!! It's too low!!!!!!!!!!"

They also like the Jan - May season when the crescent is more or less pointing straight down in the evening.

Year after year after year."
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Look at it this way: the part of the Moon closest to the Sun is lit. If, from your perspective, the Sun is below the Moon then the bottom of the Moon will be bright.
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Here's a great quote from "Popular Astronomy" in 1909

"Now it is a fact not generally known that the crescent moon always appears "upon its back" in spring, near the vernal equinox, and "upon its end" in autumn, near the autumnal equinox."

[link to books.google.com]

Weird. Seems like something in our orbit has changed since 1909. We're 3 months early for our moon to be "on its back".

I'm guessing those who lived by the stars in 1909 know more than a professional debunker in 2010.

Thanks for playing.
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And yes, it is "on it's back" now.
And once again, just like ever other year it was predicted.
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Here's a great quote from "Popular Astronomy" in 1909

"Now it is a fact not generally known that the crescent moon always appears "upon its back" in spring, near the vernal equinox, and "upon its end" in autumn, near the autumnal equinox."

[link to books.google.com]

Weird. Seems like something in our orbit has changed since 1909. We're 3 months early for our moon to be "on its back".

I'm guessing those who lived by the stars in 1909 know more than a professional debunker in 2010.

Thanks for playing.
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And here's a shot of the Moon in San Jose on 1-14-1910


[link to picasaweb.google.com]

Same thing.

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Re: Moon is wrong in the sky tonight
Here's a great quote from "Popular Astronomy" in 1909

"Now it is a fact not generally known that the crescent moon always appears "upon its back" in spring, near the vernal equinox, and "upon its end" in autumn, near the autumnal equinox."

[link to books.google.com]

Weird. Seems like something in our orbit has changed since 1909. We're 3 months early for our moon to be "on its back".

I'm guessing those who lived by the stars in 1909 know more than a professional debunker in 2010.

Thanks for playing.


And yes, it is "on it's back" now.
And once again, just like ever other year it was predicted.
 Quoting: saros136


Except it's predicted on the Spring equinox. Did that move to January 10th? No? Thanks.

So are you the new professional GLP "nothing to see here" shill? Did DrPostman need help? You're all over the compass threads and the moon threads, do you feel the need to show us the error of our ways? Does it destroy you to see people wasting their lives worrying about something that you can't seem to see?
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You're right. What I said doesn't defend me there.

But put this in context: most of the tilted crescent Moon claims do not involve wet moons. They're mostly by people who do not think the Moon tilts at all. Introducing the wet moon label shows it does without requiring them to believe in technology or debunkers, and tilts much more at that. There is no precise definition of a wet moon-can it be 8 degrees away from horizontal?-and even with a precise standard, there's the problem of a Moon appearing wet just from some places.. San Jose shouldn't have a textbook wet moon this year, but should come pretty close on Feb 5, 6, and 7. (Near the setting of the Moon).

What all astronomers would have agreed to in 1909 was that predictions of the celestial bodies were very accurate, even before their lifetimes. It was not necessary to find observer reports to see if an eclipse happened on some past date...and calculating the tilt of the crescent on the Moon is no different. A calculation shows what will happen, no ifs, ands, or buts. And so the successful prediction here is enough to show all is well.

No, I'm not the new pro. I'm actually in a limited role. I completely ignore most threads. I knew that the tilted moon alarms would sound, over and over. It's easy to make ironclad proof it's expected; I just decided to help. But lucky for those who do not want me, I won't hang here as long as I did in the heyday of the debunker's epic battle against the believers of GLP, Nancy Lieder, and the prediction of a May 15, 2003 PX pass and disaster. But they also offered more of a fight than the recent ones do, and it was exciting. It was where I learned about the tilted crescent controversy and Katkam, what prompted me get my first books on how astronomical predictions were made, and what proved to me the need for objective evidence minimizing or eliminating the roles of perception and memory.

And no, it doesn't destroy me that people worry so much. I'm resigned to the fact that it will always be around, just like PX will always be about to arrive, and the Sun is always brighter than ever and setting farther south/north than ever. It bothers and annoys me, but not more than a lot of other things.