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!!! ANALYZED DATA SUGGEST mysterious "plume" of magnetism arising from deep in Earths Core !!!

 
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Get a bar magnet. Hold it up, wave it around..
Feel anything? Rigght.
The magnetic field moving around is no big deal. It's a weak force.
We may need to recalibrate our compass some day.
Birds migrate via the stars positions, the sun's ultraviolet light, etc. There's no doom here, sorry.
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But thats just the thing...You feel the effect that other magnet is having on the other and vice versa. You do not feel magnetism yourself. Its a force alright. Electrons are physically in our universe. A Magnetic field is not. What is it? Spooky eh?
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Get a bar magnet. Hold it up, wave it around..
Feel anything? Rigght.
The magnetic field moving around is no big deal. It's a weak force.
We may need to recalibrate our compass some day.
Birds migrate via the stars positions, the sun's ultraviolet light, etc. There's no doom here, sorry.


You need to do a lot more research. Magnetic force is something like 54 Xs that of gravitational force. You think gravity isn't a big deal either?
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What magnetic force is that?
The earth's?

ROFL!

Get the magnet- it's weight (gravity) is much greater than the earth's magnetic pull upon it.
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Prove its been happening forever. Prove that it HAS ALWAYS BEEN a fundmental aspect of thunderstorms. If you can't, than that is merely your opinion and you are full of shit just as much as you say GLPers are.


Well, certainly I'm as full of shit as the next guy tounge

-- But you think the article about the discovery regarding thunderstorms creating anti-matter means that this is something new?

-- Considering that thunderstorms have been around for a billion years or more, don't you think it's more likely that the discovery is what's new, rather than the thunderstorm/anti-matter connection?

-- And you know as well as I that the onus of proof rests with he who asserts the positive. And if y'all are asserting that the T-storm/A-Matter connection is new, then the burden of proof rests with you, does it not?


Thunderstorms have been around, but that does not mean our atmosphere has been the same. There are scientific research papers that show that when we enter interstellar cloud regions Earth's climatology changes. We entered a region recently, and even more recent, have entered a denser region of plasma. THAT affects our climatology as well as climates and atmospheric phenomena on all planets and moons in our solar system.

So, to say that thunderstorms (lightning) reaction to atmospheric conditions have always been the same, well that holds less value than saying that they can change.
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I saw that article too about the massive Plasma cloud that our galaxy has entered into recently.
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Get a bar magnet. Hold it up, wave it around..
Feel anything? Rigght.
The magnetic field moving around is no big deal. It's a weak force.
We may need to recalibrate our compass some day.
Birds migrate via the stars positions, the sun's ultraviolet light, etc. There's no doom here, sorry.


You need to do a lot more research. Magnetic force is something like 54 Xs that of gravitational force. You think gravity isn't a big deal either?
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Let him pick up a strong enough magnet n see if the iron doesn't get sucked out of his blood
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Thunderstorms have been around, but that does not mean our atmosphere has been the same. There are scientific research papers that show that when we enter interstellar cloud regions Earth's climatology changes. We entered a region recently, and even more recent, have entered a denser region of plasma. THAT affects our climatology as well as climates and atmospheric phenomena on all planets and moons in our solar system.

So, to say that thunderstorms (lightning) reaction to atmospheric conditions have always been the same, well that holds less value than saying that they can change.
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-- Yes, I realize that change is the only constant.
-- And I'm sure T-storm characteristics evolved, just like everything else.
-- And I also understand about the interstellar region and its effect upon climatology.

-- But as you know, evolution is a very slow process.
-- So, again, it comes down to the odds, much like an ELE asteroid.
-- Just like a plasma region's possible effect on climate, ELE asteroids do exist, but they are extremely rare. EXTREMELY.
-- Again, once every 50 million years means the odds of one happening this year or next are 50 million to 1. And those are pretty long odds.

-- So I submit that the same is true of the plasma/climate/T-storm connection.
-- And it's difficult to sympathize with the kind of wild conjecture that happens every day here at GLP, when people breathlessly insist that a 50 million to 1 shot is ABSOLUTELY IMMINENT.
-- Especially when they really, really, really, WANT that long shot to come true, for the sake of their ascension.
-- It's just not very credible.
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Was just reading the other day about a b field, something to do with Ed L and the coral castle. He was negating gravity somehow, seems to be related to looping and cancellation ?
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That's just the notation used to keep track of magnetic fields.

For example, in an NMR magnet, the main field is refered to at B0, and any transverse magnetization that results from RF pulses is called B1.
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Get a bar magnet. Hold it up, wave it around..
Feel anything? Rigght.
The magnetic field moving around is no big deal. It's a weak force.
We may need to recalibrate our compass some day.
Birds migrate via the stars positions, the sun's ultraviolet light, etc. There's no doom here, sorry.


You need to do a lot more research. Magnetic force is something like 54 Xs that of gravitational force. You think gravity isn't a big deal either?



Let him pick up a strong enough magnet n see if the iron doesn't get sucked out of his blood
 Quoting: Elqisqeyano

I was in an MRI machine for over an hour couple years ago-
Enormous magnetic field.
Didn't feel a thing. I ain't Iron man, I guess.
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of magnetism arising from deep in Earths Core !!!

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 Quoting: Elqisqeyano
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Interesting concept.

Scientists have feared Gamma Radiation from a Supernova
could destroy Life on Earth from outside our Solar System.
But we may need to look INWARD, not to the stars.

Blood contains iron which is non-ferrous. Magnetism has no
real effect on it.
That is why MRI are safe. An MRI the
magnetic field is so strong it will pull an oxygen tank
from over 20' away. The Earth's magnetism would not
separate red blood cells from other blood cells.


However, subjecting the natural electric currents of the
body to a strong magnetism could effectively destroy the
Circuits of our Bodies.


Let's use an extreme example. Approaching a magnetic
Neutron Star would have the equivalent of 100 billion MRI
machines and would kill you.
These Neutron Stars have a
magnetic field so strong that they could erase your credit
cards from 250,000 miles away. This kind of strong
magnetism would kill a human thousands of miles away. Proof
of this statement can be found on the nasa.gov website.




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Another report of bird deaths in Los Angeles today. 371 pigeons fall from the sky right in front of the Los Angeles CNN Headquarters.
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But thats just the thing...You feel the effect that other magnet is having on the other and vice versa. You do not feel magnetism yourself. Its a force alright. Electrons are physically in our universe. A Magnetic field is not. What is it? Spooky eh?
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Well, what is the relationship between "fields" and "force"?

In electromagnetism, for example, the force is generated by the "curve" of the magnetic field. That is to say, ferromagnetic objects on the edge of the field are "pulled" toward the center because of the delta (or change) in the B field over distance.

If one were in a perfectly homogenous field of any magnetic strenght, it would be invisible to you and any objects in it because there would be no force exerted because the delta B is zero for the domain.

The same things are true of gravity, you can just think of a car rolling down a hill... we don't commonly run into gravity cancelation, well unless we watch UFO youtubez! :)

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Prove its been happening forever. Prove that it HAS ALWAYS BEEN a fundmental aspect of thunderstorms. If you can't, than that is merely your opinion and you are full of shit just as much as you say GLPers are.


Well, certainly I'm as full of shit as the next guy tounge

-- But you think the article about the discovery regarding thunderstorms creating anti-matter means that this is something new?

-- Considering that thunderstorms have been around for a billion years or more, don't you think it's more likely that the discovery is what's new, rather than the thunderstorm/anti-matter connection?

-- And you know as well as I that the onus of proof rests with he who asserts the positive. And if y'all are asserting that the T-storm/A-Matter connection is new, then the burden of proof rests with you, does it not?


Thunderstorms have been around, but that does not mean our atmosphere has been the same. There are scientific research papers that show that when we enter interstellar cloud regions Earth's climatology changes. We entered a region recently, and even more recent, have entered a denser region of plasma. THAT affects our climatology as well as climates and atmospheric phenomena on all planets and moons in our solar system.

So, to say that thunderstorms (lightning) reaction to atmospheric conditions have always been the same, well that holds less value than saying that they can change.



I saw that article too about the massive Plasma cloud that our galaxy has entered into recently.
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But what do thundersnow's give us, a flavored ice cream?
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Let him pick up a strong enough magnet n see if the iron doesn't get sucked out of his blood

I was in an MRI machine for over an hour couple years ago-
Enormous magnetic field.
Didn't feel a thing. I ain't Iron man, I guess.
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If the mass of the molecules or the delta B of the field were sufficient, it most certainly would suck it out of you.

That's why people with implanted medical devices are strongly encouraged to avoid high field environments. :)
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But thats just the thing...You feel the effect that other magnet is having on the other and vice versa. You do not feel magnetism yourself. Its a force alright. Electrons are physically in our universe. A Magnetic field is not. What is it? Spooky eh?


Well, what is the relationship between "fields" and "force"?

In electromagnetism, for example, the force is generated by the "curve" of the magnetic field. That is to say, ferromagnetic objects on the edge of the field are "pulled" toward the center because of the delta (or change) in the B field over distance.

If one were in a perfectly homogenous field of any magnetic strenght, it would be invisable to you and any objects in it because there would be no force exerted because the delta B is zero for the domain.

The same things are true of gravity, you can just think of a car rolling down a hill... we don't commonly run into gravity cancelation, well unless we watch UFO youtubez! :)
 Quoting: Least Servant

In that same context, we all are in the same heliosphere: who knows what aliens have to go thru!
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Take a look at this NASA footage.


[link to www.nasa.gov]
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Let him pick up a strong enough magnet n see if the iron doesn't get sucked out of his blood

I was in an MRI machine for over an hour couple years ago-
Enormous magnetic field.
Didn't feel a thing. I ain't Iron man, I guess.


If the mass of the molecules or the delta B of the field were sufficient, it most certainly would suck it out of you.

That's why people with implanted medical devices are strongly encouraged to avoid high field environments. :)
 Quoting: Least Servant


you could say that if a peanut butter sammich was big enough it could crush me to death, and you'd be right.
Earth's magnetic field has very little effect on anything.
The aurora borealis and a compass's function are about the only evidence we ever had the dern thing even exists.
(Until nasa started building instruments to measure it.)
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Here is a NASA Article showing that Doppler radars can pick up electromagnetic energy.

www.crh.noaa.gov/mkx/?n=using-radar

Wow. Is there a rise of these Magnetized Plumes emerging on our planet?



If so. What are the possible effects from these Magnetized Plumes? We can clearly see what effects they might have on birds and fish, But what about humans?

You can't clearly see anything from speculation!
One species of birds will not die, All birds would!
Apples / Oranges
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And,why would the elite go underground if these plumes are coming UP from the core-wouldn't they be putting themselves in harms way by moving closer to this effect.
It has to be coming from above!
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[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]

Could these Mysterious plumes of magnetism effect animals and humans on the surface? Are they poisonous? Could these magnetic plumes effect navigational compass on Birds, Fish etc... When they protrude from deep within the core onto our surface, Do they make sound or light? Majority of animal deaths have been in areas of great seismic activity?


Looking for OTOC, SickScent, Astronut or any scientist on here that could possibly answer some or all of these questions.
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SAID SO DIDN'T I?
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wha, no way....get outta town!

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Thunderstorms have been around, but that does not mean our atmosphere has been the same. There are scientific research papers that show that when we enter interstellar cloud regions Earth's climatology changes. We entered a region recently, and even more recent, have entered a denser region of plasma. THAT affects our climatology as well as climates and atmospheric phenomena on all planets and moons in our solar system.

So, to say that thunderstorms (lightning) reaction to atmospheric conditions have always been the same, well that holds less value than saying that they can change.



-- Yes, I realize that change is the only constant.
-- And I'm sure T-storm characteristics evolved, just like everything else.
-- And I also understand about the interstellar region and its effect upon climatology.

-- But as you know, evolution is a very slow process.
-- So, again, it comes down to the odds, much like an ELE asteroid.
-- Just like a plasma region's possible effect on climate, ELE asteroids do exist, but they are extremely rare. EXTREMELY.
-- Again, once every 50 million years means the odds of one happening this year or next are 50 million to 1. And those are pretty long odds.

-- So I submit that the same is true of the plasma/climate/T-storm connection.
-- And it's difficult to sympathize with the kind of wild conjecture that happens every day here at GLP, when people breathlessly insist that a 50 million to 1 shot is ABSOLUTELY IMMINENT.
-- Especially when they really, really, really, WANT that long shot to come true, for the sake of their ascension.
-- It's just not very credible.
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I thought "evolution" was/is a theory.
In theory it is a slow process.

If "evolution" is a wrong theory (it might be) then what ever process governs may not be slow.

Last Edited by fairflight on 01/14/2011 05:34 PM
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Re: !!! ANALYZED DATA SUGGEST mysterious "plume" of magnetism arising from deep in Earths Core !!!
you could say that if a peanut butter sammich was big enough it could crush me to death, and you'd be right.
Earth's magnetic field has very little effect on anything.
The aurora borealis and a compass's function are about the only evidence we ever had the dern thing even exists.
(Until nasa started building instruments to measure it.)
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I'm guessing you aren't a sea turtle or migrating bird...? rofl

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[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]

Could these Mysterious plumes of magnetism effect animals and humans on the surface? Are they poisonous? Could these magnetic plumes effect navigational compass on Birds, Fish etc... When they protrude from deep within the core onto our surface, Do they make sound or light? Majority of animal deaths have been in areas of great seismic activity?


Looking for OTOC, SickScent, Astronut or any scientist on here that could possibly answer some or all of these questions.
 Quoting: Elqisqeyano

All blood has a small amount of iron in it, could just a tiny 'pull' on that be enough to disrupt their interior organs. I would add mercury to that but I'm not sure it is even magnetic
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Another report of bird deaths in Los Angeles today. 371 pigeons fall from the sky right in front of the Los Angeles CNN Headquarters.
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that's a lie
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Re: !!! ANALYZED DATA SUGGEST mysterious "plume" of magnetism arising from deep in Earths Core !!!
you could say that if a peanut butter sammich was big enough it could crush me to death, and you'd be right.
Earth's magnetic field has very little effect on anything.
The aurora borealis and a compass's function are about the only evidence we ever had the dern thing even exists.
(Until nasa started building instruments to measure it.)
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I agree to some extent. Magnetism only appears to have any noticeable effects in a localised environment.

Other than protecting the Earth from space radiation i do wonder about it (the Earth magnetic field) having any other larger effect. It probably does, i am yet to be convinced that a change will pose too much danger.

Of course, that doesn't rule out what makes it change being a danger.
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Another report of bird deaths in Los Angeles today. 371 pigeons fall from the sky right in front of the Los Angeles CNN Headquarters.



that's a lie
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Yeah!

It was only 370.
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Another report of bird deaths in Los Angeles today. 371 pigeons fall from the sky right in front of the Los Angeles CNN Headquarters.



that's a lie
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At this point it is conjecture.
Not proven nor disproven.

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All blood has a small amount of iron in it, could just a tiny 'pull' on that be enough to disrupt their interior organs. I would add mercury to that but I'm not sure it is even magnetic
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Humans can be safely put into 7 Telsa fields without much of an effect from the main field.

MRI units that run at this strength do occasionally cause some issues to the subject due to the strength of the gradient fields that need to be applied to do MR imaging and perhaps even the RF strength needed to cause sufficient field deflection during imaging procedures.

7 Tesla is 70000 gauss... which is 140,000 times the average field strength of the earth.

Above 7 Telsa, there is sufficient delta B, due to the limits of engineering in most systems, to cause some disruption to ion channels in the nervous system, the most common effect is a lightheaded feeling, disorientation, and dizziness.

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