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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1142652 United States 01/14/2011 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So let me get this straight. A man was born of a virgin, which meant she did NOT concieve with a human. That Jesus blood came from God. The Seed of God. And this makes him the son of God. The whole new testament is the teaching of Jesus, yet you say its Lucifer? |
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freeman User ID: 1139131 United States 01/14/2011 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this should be a hint to who wrote the bible Foreigners (Gentiles) shall rebuild your walls, and their kings shall minister to you ...Your gates shall be open continuously; day and night they shall not be shut; that men may bring to you the wealth of the nations, with their kings led in procession. For the nation or kingdom that will not not serve you; shall perish; those nations shall be utterly laid waste.... Isaiah 60:10-12 You shall suck the milk of nations, you shall suck the breast of kings; and you shall know that I, the LORD, am your Savior and your Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob. Isaiah 60:16 And strangers [Gentiles] shall stand and feed your flocks, strangers shall be your plowmen and vinedressers; but you shall be called the priests of the LORD, men shall speak of you as the ministers of our God; you shall eat the wealth of the nations, and in their riches you shall glory. Isaiah 61:5-6 |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1218774 United States 01/15/2011 12:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So let me get this straight. A man was born of a virgin, which meant she did NOT concieve with a human. That Jesus blood came from God. The Seed of God. And this makes him the son of God. The whole new testament is the teaching of Jesus, yet you say its Lucifer? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1142652From The Secret Teachings of All Ages: The true story of the life of Jesus of Nazareth has never been unfolded to the world, either in the accepted Gospels or in the Apocrypha, although a few stray hints may be found in some of the commentaries written by the ante-Nicene Fathers. The facts concerning His identity and mission are among the priceless mysteries preserved to this day in the secret vaults beneath the "Houses of the Brethren." To a few of the Knights Templars, who were initiated into the arcana of the Druses, Nazarenes, Essenes, Johannites, and other sects still inhabiting the remote and inaccessible fastnesses of the Holy Land, part of the strange story was told. The knowledge of the Templars concerning the early history of Christianity was undoubtedly one of the main reasons for their persecution and final annihilation. The discrepancies in the writings of the early Church Fathers not only are irreconcilable, but demonstrate beyond question that even during the first five centuries after Christ these learned men had for the basis of their writings little more substantial than folklore and hearsay. To the easy believer everything is possible and there are no problems. The unemotional person in search of facts, however, is confronted by a host of problems with uncertain factors, of which the following are typical: ... It is by no means improbable that Jesus Himself originally propounded as allegories the cosmic activities which were later confused with His own life. That the Χριστός, Christos, represents the solar power reverenced by every nation of antiquity cannot be controverted. If Jesus revealed the nature and purpose of this solar power under the name and personality of Christos, thereby giving to this abstract power the attributes of a god-man, He but followed a precedent set by all previous World-Teachers. This god-man, thus endowed with all the qualities of Deity, signifies the latent divinity in every man. Mortal man achieves deification only through at-one-ment with this divine Self. Union with the immortal Self constitutes immortality, and he who finds his true Self is therefore "saved." This Christos, or divine man in man, is man's real hope of salvation. ... So Jesus has been confused with the Christos, or god-man, whose wonders He preached. SINCE THE CHRISTOS WAS THE GOD-MAN TRAPPED WITHIN EVERY CREATURE, it was the first duty of the initiate to LIBERATE, or "resurrect, " this Eternal One within himself. He who attained reunion with his Christos was consequently termed a Christian, or Christened, man. [My note: This is the REAL Christianity, not the modern abomination of deceptive symbolic duality worship.] ... Stories like the foregoing represent the incrustations that have attached themselves to the body of Christianity during the centuries. The POPULAR MIND itself has been the self-appointed guardian and perpetuator of these legends, bitterly opposing every effort to divest the faith of these questionable accumulations. While popular tradition often contains certain basic elements of truth, these elements are usually distorted out of all proportion. Thus, while the generalities of the story may be fundamentally true, the details are hopelessly erroneous. Of truth as of beauty it may be said that it is most adorned when unadorned. Through the mist of fantastic accounts which obscure the true foundation of the Christian faith is faintly visible to the discerning few a great and noble doctrine communicated to the world by a great and noble soul. Joseph and Mary, two devout and holy-minded souls, consecrated to the service of God and dreaming of the coming of a Messiah to serve Israel, obeyed the injunctions of the high priest of the Essenes to prepare a body for the coming of a great soul. Thus of an immaculate conception Jesus was born. By immaculate is meant CLEAN, rather than SUPERNATURAL. ... About A.D. 180, St. Irenæus, Bishop of Lyons, one of the most eminent of the ante-Nicene theologians, wrote Against Heresies, an attack on the doctrines of the Gnostics. In this work Irenæus declared upon the authority of the Apostles themselves that Jesus lived to old age. To quote: "They, however, that they may establish their false opinion regarding that which is written, 'to proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord,' maintain that He preached for one year only, and then suffered in the twelfth month. [In speaking thus], they are forgetful of their own disadvantage, destroying His whole work, and robbing Him of that age which is both more necessary and more honourable than any other; that more advanced age, I mean, during which also as a teacher He excelled all others. For how could He have had His disciples, if He did not teach? And how could He have taught, unless He had reached the age of a Master? For when He came to be baptised, He had not yet completed His thirtieth year, but was beginning to be about thirty years of age (for thus Luke, who has mentioned His years, has expressed it: 'Now Jesus was, as it were, beginning to be thirty years old,' when He came to receive baptism); and, (according to these men,) He preached only one year reckoning from His baptism. On completing His thirtieth year He suffered, being in fact still a young man, and who had by no means attained to advanced age. Now, that the first stage of early life embraces thirty years, and that this extends onward to the fortieth year, every one will admit; but from the fortieth and fiftieth year a man begins to decline towards old age, which Our Lord possessed while He still fulfilled the office of a Teacher, even as the Gospel and all the elders testify; those who were conversant in Asia with John, the disciple of the Lord, (affirming) that John conveyed to them that information. And he remained among them up to the time of Trajan. Some of them, moreover, saw not only John, but the other apostles also, and heard the very same account from them, and bear testimony as to the'(validity of) the statement. Whom then should we rather believe? Whether such men as these, or Ptolemæus, who never saw the apostles, and who never even in his dreams attained to the slightest trace of an apostle?" Commenting on the foregoing passage, Godfrey Higgins remarks that it has fortunately escaped the hands of those destroyers who have attempted to render the Gospel narratives consistent by deleting all such statements. He also notes that the doctrine of the crucifixion was a vexata questio (disputed question) among Christians even during the second century. "The evidence of Irenæus," he says, "cannot be touched. On every principle of sound criticism, and of the doctrine of probabilities, it is unimpeachable." It should further be noted that Irenæus prepared this statement to contradict another apparently current in his time to the effect that the ministry of Jesus lasted but one year. Of all the early Fathers, Irenæus, writing within eighty years after the death of St. John the Evangelist, should have had reasonably accurate information. If the disciples themselves related that Jesus lived to advanced age in the body, WHY HAS THE MYSTERIOUS NUMBER 33 been arbitrarily chosen to symbolize the duration of His life? Were the incidents in the life of Jesus purposely altered so that His actions would fit more closely into the pattern established by the numerous Savior-Gods who preceded Him? That these analogies were recognized and used as a leverage in converting the Greeks and Romans. End of excerpt. And how does the new testament tie into Lucifer worship? The embedded occult allegory of the crucifixion of Christ is the answer. The worship of human purity sacrifice which is symbolic of duality, the nailing into position, location of the nails, location of the arms in fixed position, the symbolism behind the cross, the death at the age of 33, the willingness and commitment to eat of the flesh and drink of the blood and the untold eternal repercussions of such devotions as deceptively presented vs. what it actually entails. The God in which utilizes this sacrifice is not as it presents itself. It is the Dualistic God of illusions that utilizes the worship of this constant sacrifice, this is why animal sacrifice is no longer necessary to feed the hungry "He" God. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1218774 United States 01/15/2011 05:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's a big difference between the REAL Jesus teacher, of personal spiritual liberation, and the modern mass consented version of Jesus, used as a puppet and poster-child to an abomination religion of exteral spiritual dependancy. If JeZUES was even his real name. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1079553 United States 01/15/2011 05:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's a big difference between the REAL Jesus teacher, of personal spiritual liberation, and the modern mass consented version of Jesus, used as a puppet and poster-child to an abomination religion of exteral spiritual dependancy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1218774If JeZUES was even his real name. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS Christianity, for the most part, worship a false Christ. As prophesied. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1225274 Australia 01/15/2011 06:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So let me get this straight. A man was born of a virgin, which meant she did NOT concieve with a human. That Jesus blood came from God. The Seed of God. And this makes him the son of God. The whole new testament is the teaching of Jesus, yet you say its Lucifer? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1142652NIV Calls Lucifer, "Jesus" |
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Xibalbá be User ID: 1230757 Estonia 01/15/2011 06:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thou shall not eat from the tree of knowledge... “Science investigates religion interprets. Science gives man knowledge which is power,religion gives man wisdom which is control.” Science is lucifer,religion is deception,to lure you away from it. Now shut the fuck up with your bible quotes we all know masons wrote it and that sumerians didn't know shit about jesus or christianity. By the way Julius Caesar got a son from god,guess who J.C stands for??? The holy roman empire,a grand scheme to deceive humans into believing man could resurrect... *FACEPALM* Now go preach about your stupidity. “The desire of power in excess caused the angels to fall; the desire of knowledge in excess caused man to fall.” - Francis Bacon, Sr. quotes (English Lawyer and Philosopher. 1561-1626) You will now All->Save->Undo->Cut->Copy->Paste->Bold->Print->Home->Alt->Ctrl->Pause->Break->Page Down->Page Up->Enter Insert->End->Delete Choose your destiny. Sub-atomic <-> atomic sub |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1218774 United States 01/15/2011 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Freemasons and Christians worship the same God: Quoting: alexblanelayder 1226838That's why there's a Freemason Bible. no. freemasons are deistic. you dont know what your taking about. What are the aspects of the deity? Lucifer archetype and Satan archetype, mingling of positive and negative, light and dark, same as the God in the Bible. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1218774 United States 01/15/2011 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Duality is a sonofabitch. I often wonder why people cling to the supernatural rather than the actually physical mechanics all around them.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1220540Yeah it is! I do appreciate how duality allows a passage way for "darkness" to heal itself back into "light" but it's a shame how the process is taken advantage of by manipulative intelligences. I just see Christians getting in line for further duality, worshipping the demi-god of Samsara rather than prepairing themselves for liberation. The trick was attaching Jesus to his "Father" and through him you end up worshipping the "He" God of many aspects, Lucifer being the archetype of the "Light" which co-creates with "darkness". I feel like Christians are being mislead to worship the process of duality, rather than follow the real UNALTERED teachings of the one now called Jesus. It's really not fair for Christians and other religions because of how idealized the deception has become. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1116119 Canada 01/15/2011 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This means that IF God preserved His Word it is hidden within many many different manuscripts and we are left to conclude which ones. It also means that we are left wondering which ones, which words, and what exactly the original words were that Ezra altered in the TORAH (the Law books) - the tiqqune sopherim. In essence, when you really look into the matter with an open and honest approach, seeking the Truth of God the entire way, you will find that the Word of God could really be in any book anywhere, and that the Bible really has no authority whatsoever. Now, you might come to the conclusion that Jesus Himself believed the OT was the Word of God and stated such, but He was also talking of books that are not found in the Bible and He most certainly was not talking about the NT. That's really neither here nor there though, cause if you really want to know the truth and not just be a deceived fool you'll realize that Jesus also said not one jot or tittle of the Law would pass away, and that was simply a false statement as we now know that Ezra amended the Torah (the Law books). Jesus might really be God folks, but the fact of the matter is the vast majority of everything else about Christianity, especially the Bible, is utter BS. My advice to you is: "Don't just read Evidence That Demands A Verdict" and think you know jack about your own faith. Challenge the material and want to read all the sourced documents given to you for yourself. Act like a conspiracy theorist researcher for once! Learn the stuff very very deeply. I promise you it will strengthen your faith beyond belief, that is, until you learn too much... |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1218774 United States 01/15/2011 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can say with absolute 100% certainty that God did not perfectly preserve His Word (Old and New Testament), that nowhere is Canonization mentioned in the Bible or the Law of God given to Moses. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1116119This means that IF God preserved His Word it is hidden within many many different manuscripts and we are left to conclude which ones. It also means that we are left wondering which ones, which words, and what exactly the original words were that Ezra altered in the TORAH (the Law books) - the tiqqune sopherim. In essence, when you really look into the matter with an open and honest approach, seeking the Truth of God the entire way, you will find that the Word of God could really be in any book anywhere, and that the Bible really has no authority whatsoever. Now, you might come to the conclusion that Jesus Himself believed the OT was the Word of God and stated such, but He was also talking of books that are not found in the Bible and He most certainly was not talking about the NT. That's really neither here nor there though, cause if you really want to know the truth and not just be a deceived fool you'll realize that Jesus also said not one jot or tittle of the Law would pass away, and that was simply a false statement as we now know that Ezra amended the Torah (the Law books). Jesus might really be God folks, but the fact of the matter is the vast majority of everything else about Christianity, especially the Bible, is utter BS. My advice to you is: "Don't just read Evidence That Demands A Verdict" and think you know jack about your own faith. Challenge the material and want to read all the sourced documents given to you for yourself. Act like a conspiracy theorist researcher for once! Learn the stuff very very deeply. I promise you it will strengthen your faith beyond belief, that is, until you learn too much... I appreciate, so much, where you're coming from. And ultimately having your type of attitude with a willingness to delve deeper than the face value that religions present is what I want for followers. I realize that I'm coming from what would appear as an extreme perspective. I've just lately felt extreme about the delusion of religions, especially Christianity, and I'm not holding anything back, I don't want to be blase' and beat around the bush so that people can feel okay about their delusion. This is a very serious circumstance we are in spiritually, and I feel Christianity is missing the boat altogether. That in fact if we look at this Earth as the creation of the "Creator" of the Bible, and that "His" way is seen in this earth and its people, then this "God" is one of survival of the fittest, of predator and prey, of conditional love, of consumption of life to sustain life. A God of opposites, of sky and land, up and down, left and right, of LIGHT AND DARK, of separated peoples, separated lands, separated languages, this is not a Creator of Unity, but of Duality. That my view of this "God" as the same as the Lucifer Archetype as one of His expressions, is a valid interpretation with supporting evidence from cross-cultural religions and their descriptions of Deity. And it hurts to know that there is one way out of Samsara, and religions are not the way, all of these exterior dependencies keep a spirit within the illusion of duality. And even the true teachings of Christ, which have been hidden, with small pieces found here and there, are NOT what the modern Christians are following. They have been deluded, along with other followers of Monotheism, to worship the "kingdom" of the struggle, rather than actually work out their personal salvation. And the majority of Christians are so blinded by their mangled dogma, they cannot even see the spiritual dependencies they create for themselves, and that they become stuck in spiritual apathy and trapped by walls intended to keep them as servants to a exterior hierarchy. Societies and Royalties throughout history have mangled the Bible to breed citizens that rely on an exterior authority, even to the extent of fear over their eternal spirit. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1218774 United States 01/15/2011 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Spiritual retard is as spiritual retard does. Quoting: TXGal4TruthC'mon you two. Let's debate this and share opinions constructively. I think you can better represent your position. I'm not the only person that holds this opinion, how would you present your reasoning to people like us? Rather than calling us spiritual retards and minions of Satan? What makes me a spiritual retard? Give me the chance to defend my reasoning. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1218774 United States 01/15/2011 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have just one question for you OP: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1154807if Jesus Christ is not God to you Who is it then? I think the concept of "God" is where we differ. I think our versions of Jesus Christ, the spiritual teacher now referred to by that name, is also where we differ. I believe God is more like Source, the essence that makes up all things, and binds all things. That this essence is intelligent, eternal, endlessly form-able and compassionate. That all that is, all microcosms and macrocosms, are equal expression of Source. Now there are some archetypes/perspectives that are willing to defile Source by force, are willing to reverse Source into abominations never originally intended. That this universe is an intentional malfunction of Source that causes it to be dualistic, to be of its original form of "love" and an inverted form of "evil." In actuality, this dual nature is an illusion, and the Architects of this illusion present themselves as God, since they control and create the illusion. Now True Source is ONLY LOVE, so it allows itself to be warped and mangled to abide by the free-will of those who desire to mangle Source. And it has resulted in a big mess that we see as this universe of duality. Fortunately the realms of Love alone were able to contain this mess, thus we are in a FINITE universe that appears dark and has walls on it. Now what the teachings of the actual teacher now called Jesus, were teachings of empowerment, of discernment, of recognizing the pure aspect of ourselves, and making that pure aspect of ourselves, our whole self. When we are spiritually pure, we must release all the strings and shackles that the duality illusion implants within us, and then we are no longer compatible with duality, thus liberation is achieved into the realms of pure love alone. One becomes compassion alone, peace alone, all darkness is no more for we become purity. THEN, in the realms of purity, we may explore expressions of Source and continue the intangible search for Source, in levels of Love NOT POSSIBLE in realms of duality, or simultaneous darkness/evil and light/love. In the realms of purity, we may search for Source IN TRUTH, WITHOUT CONDITIONS, WITHOUT ILLUSION, WITHOUT FEAR, IN UNITY AND EQUALITY, WITHOUT STEPPING ALL OVER EACHOTHER. No longer does a spirit have to toil in the illusions of the Deities that present themselves as God to those who will take the bait. No more dependencies, no more hierarchy, no more dualities, no need for an exterior savior necessary. For ANY EXTERIOR that DESIRES to CONTROL YOU, however benevolent it may seem, shows that you are not yet ready, and the dependency will keep you as part of the illusion, though it may be a "nicer" realm. The search for Source is eternal, internal, by use of the pure aspect within yourself, with greater and greater levels of love. For it is said that even the purest of unified beings in the most pure realms of creation are also still exploring and searching for the Source of Unconditional Love from which all things are made. I do not claim to know True Source, but I know a deceptive deity by its fruits, its "words" and its creation. I want to remove crutches and delusion, to get followers back on track with what original Christianity was intended to be, so that we can start the REAL SEARCH FOR SOURCE as a sovereign being without parasites or external dependencies, I want you to see the illusion for what it is and liberate yourself. Then we can discover what Source is together, and help some others out of the "muck" along the way. |