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The Innitiation of Ophiuchus (13th Zodiac) and the introduction into mass conciousness by MSM - 2012

 
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12 apostles + 1 savior = 13
12 knights + 1 king = 13
12 signs + 1 Man = 13
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Well, 13 has always been my lucky number. cool

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afro


Lol...not quite sure what the afro means...but it's a crazy concept right?

My beliefs about the actual meaning behind the concept of satan/lucifer differ from what the majority of the world has been fed and continually regurgitate.

Dig into it a little...bet you'd find some wonder there about it.
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- The I Ching is a calendar system; The Book of Changes, with 64 hexagrams, and depicts the progression of time. Yin and Yang symbol reflects the yearly cycle. Yin/black/female/lunar and Yang/white/male/solar. The trigrams that compose the hexagrams depict a process of balance and unification. 64 outcomes times 6 lines each equals 384, indicating a 13 month lunar cycle.
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..and even more importantly:

Yang = 1
Yin = 0
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yes !!

what is the 13th part....Orion's head


Must be important for you to show up.

Pages of drivel... INBOUND
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driv el ??

i thought the thread was about 13....
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The original symbol for Ophiuchus is the caduceus with is actually a depiction of the female womb.

The galactic center, or Ophiuchus is the birth center, the star gate, and is depicted in many images (the black madonna and christ for one).

The mother is returning... as symbolized by the number 13. The 'holy grail' the 'stargate' etc.
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Here is the sidereal information for the signs in case anyone was wondering.

Capricorn: January 20 - February 16

Aquarius: February 16 - March 11

Pisces: March 11 - April 18

Aries: April 18 - May 13

Taurus: May 13 - June 21

Gemini: June 21 - July 20

Cancer: July 20 - August 10

Leo: August 10 - September 16

Virgo: September 16 - October 30

Libra: October 30 - November 23

Scorpio: November 23 - 29

Ophiuchus: November 29 - Dec 17

Sagittarius: Dec 17 - January 20

Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

so what if your bday is dec 17?

which are you?
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You are on what they call "the cusp", so both would apply to you :)
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Awesome link. gonna check it out. looks promising and aligning with everything else thats seeming to come together.
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In Battlestar Galactica the lost 13th planet was said to be Earth. afro

(not a spoiler)

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12 apostles + 1 savior = 13
12 knights + 1 king = 13
12 signs + 1 Man = 13


Well, 13 has always been my lucky number. cool

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good number, I was born on the 13th.
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THE FOLLOWING SIDEREAL ZODIAC IS FOR PEOPLE BORN BEFORE 1990

ARIES = APRIL 19 - MAY 13
TAURUS = MAY 14 - JUNE 19
GEMINI = JUNE 20 - JULY 20
CANCER = JULY 21 - AUG 9
LEO = AUGUST 10 - SEPTEMBER 15
VIRGO = SEPTEMBER 16 - OCTOBER 30
LIBRA = OCTOBER 31 - NOVEMBER 22
SCORPIO = NOVEMBER 23 - NOVEMBER 29
OPHIUCHUS = NOVEMBER 30 - DECEMBER 17
SAGITTARIUS = DECEMBER 18 - JANUARY 18
CAPRICORN = JANUARY 19 - FEBRUARY 15
AQUARIUS = FEBRUARY 16 - MARCH 11
PISCES = MARCH 12 - APRIL 18

The following Sidereal Zodiac below is for children born beginning 1990:

AQUARIUS March 26 - April 18
PISCES April 19 - May 26
ARIES May 27 - June 20
TAURUS June 21 - July27
GEMINI July 28 - August 27
CANCER August 28 - September 17
LEO September 18 - October 24
VIRGO October 25 - December 9
LIBRA December 10 - January 1
SCORPIO January 2 - January 8
OPHIUCHUS January 9 - Janury 26
SAGITTARIUS January 27 - February 27
CAPRICORN February 28 - March 25

Read more: Ophiuchus - The 13th Sign of the Zodiac 2011
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WOW! Thanks!!
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The 13th Sign- Ophiuchus and the Resurrection of the Goddess
By Ayele Kumari
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It was obvious to me a few years ago that something in the zodiac was amiss. While all of the ancient charts seemed to indicate that there were 12 constellations associated with the zodiac, the actual map was obviously different. There it was ,between Scorpio and Sagittarius, was Ophiuchus glaring through. This particular sign was important to me because it was also home to the galactic center and black hole. This meant that it was associated with the Divine feminine and the ancient Goddesses. The milky way surrounding the galactic center was her breasts and the hole was her sacred orifice through which all planetary life was born. We can see ancient depictions of this zodiac in the form of a goddess who holds 2 snakes in her hand. It was later usurped by Greek scholars to make it a male but the evidence is clear. That it is now the 13th sign and announced on the 13th day ( of January, 2011) a number traditionally associated with women, witches, healing, and power is even more reason to pay attention. It is appropriate because this gives rise to the true meaning of the constellation which is transformation.

Through its healing power, Ophiuchus is known as the transformer. Whether it is health, wealth, or a state of consciousness, this energy will transform whatever is taking place This tells me that the new dawn is here and with it, evolution. This constellation was specifically associated with the veiled goddess or dark goddess. The inclusion of it is literally an unveiling and it represents the unveiling of the truth behind the illusions. I would expect in the coming years a great deal of “new discoveries” about our origins, science, women, and other hidden mysteries. There will probably be a woman coming into great power very soon. I know this has been said before this but the emerging of this sign is the official sounding bell. A paradigm shift is occurring right now.

Anyway the unveiling will happen on every level. Secrets will begin to come to light as are things long forgotten. Dreams and subconscious energies will begin to emerge more as parts of our psyche’s become unveiled. Because this energy is associated with the water...deep waters the oceans currents will show signs of change.

What was also apparent is that within each of the 12 depicted there was always a 13th that was female and set aside from the others. Dinah was the 13th daughter of Israel, Mary the Magdalen was known as the 13 disciple, and the queen of Sheeba was also known to consult with Solomon. While the other 12 represented masculine energy in the Bible, that thirteenth was both transformation in function and female. We see with Dinah that it was her experience with the Shekhem that caused them to move from their home. It was Mary the Magdalene who was at the tomb when Jesus was resurrected, and it was Queen of Sheeba that transformed Solomon’s reign. We see then, that the idea of transformation is clear along with its mythological associations.

The significance of Ophiuchus is not limited to just female energy however. It is also associated with healing. The snakes are ancient symbols for healing. We see them even today in the caduceus symbol used by the medical profession today. Snakes are associated with healing because of their relationship to the nervous system during evolution. As one of the most primal parts of humanity, the reptilian brain is connected to the core of our nervous system and the center of consciousness in the brain. This center when balanced and mastered produce healing and calmness. When imbalanced, it produces chaos and primal instincts and aggression emerging.

We also see Ophiuchus associated in mythology with Aesepcilus ( god of medicine and healing) in ancient Greece trying to bring Orion back to life. This story is repeated in ancient Egypt where Auset the Goddess associated with Ophiuchus, magic, and healing, is trying to bring her brother/husband Ausar ( Orion) back to life after he was killed and divided into 14 parts. She recovered 13 pieces as indicated by the elliptical orbit. After putting the 13 pieces together, she created a magical 14th piece and resurrected him. Ironically Orion used to be on the elliptical orbit directly opposite of Ophiuchus but is no longer. This is what the ancients considered to be the missing piece of Ausar’s body. In any case, putting the pieces together became associated with true healing and resurrection. Resurrection is then reiterated with transformation. To add Auset’s association to the constellation, on the outside of Auset’s temple in Egypt is a sign that reads” I am everything that was, that it, that will be...no mortal man has dared to lift my veil.” There goes that veil again. Lastly, another mythology specifically talks about Auset waking with Scorpians. It is no coincidence that the constellation of Ophiuchus is on the tale of the sign Scorpio.

For those not very interested in astrology or mythologies, suffice it to say that the Scorpio you thought you were may very well be different now. With the addition of Ophiuchus in the zodiac, it changes everything including all of the dates of the signs. The following is the new order and dates of the zodiac.

Capricorn: Jan. 20-Feb. 16.

Aquarius: Feb. 16-March 11.

Pisces: March 11-April 18.

Aries: April 18-May 13.

Taurus: May 13-June 21.

Gemini: June 21-July 20.

Cancer: July 20-Aug. 10.

Leo: Aug. 10-Sept. 16.

Virgo: Sept. 16-Oct. 30.

Libra: Oct. 30-Nov. 23.

Scorpio: Nov. 23-29.

Ophiuchus:* Nov. 29-Dec. 17.

Sagittarius: Dec. 17-Jan. 20.

How is that for transformation? Changing things already...ain’t that just like a woman?
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lol, great post
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it is time to decipher Le Serpent Rouge

a poetic riddle.

13 stanzas

based on the

13 zodiacs

written in the 60's

3 authors

all hanged within days of each other.

Released on JANUARY 17.

this is an important date regarding this material & this is tomorrow's date.

important things happen in the world on jan. 17. check wiki for examples.


tell us more....

how about reciting the poem?


the original is of course in french. It is a thirteen page manuscript.
here is a link

[link to www.connectotel.com]

I don't have any personal interpretation, but it's a fascinating
rabbit hole to explore... and it seems connected to current events.
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that's funny... hubby and i were just saying we should brush up on our francais....
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FASCINATING! drama i am this "sign"... please tell us more!
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O am also...any meaning?
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- The I Ching is a calendar system; The Book of Changes, with 64 hexagrams, and depicts the progression of time. Yin and Yang symbol reflects the yearly cycle. Yin/black/female/lunar and Yang/white/male/solar. The trigrams that compose the hexagrams depict a process of balance and unification. 64 outcomes times 6 lines each equals 384, indicating a 13 month lunar cycle.
..and even more importantly:

Yang = 1
Yin = 0
 Quoting: wirelessguru1


yes....

except a better symbol for yin = .

a solid black circle....
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The Greeks equated Ophiuchus, the Serpent Wrestler, with Asclepius, their God of Medicine, who used snakes in healing rituals. The staff of Asclepius, with two snakes entangling it, is to this day used as a symbol of medicine. But Ascelpius was not the originator God of Healing. In Western myth, the first such diety is Isis, the Egyptian Goddess of Healing. It would seem that at some point the Greeks, with their patriarchal designs, subsumed the myth of Isis -- filtered through Ophiuchus -- and produced the god Asclepius. But the cult of Isis must have run deeply, and her place of veneration was not dispelled by changing her name and gender. Thus, in a final fit of patriarchal wisdom, the Greeks expunged her from her rightful place in the zodiac, thereby reducing what had become their own God of Healing to a mere footnote to the tales from Mount Olympus.

It is true that the Greeks needed to remove one of the original 13 consetallations from the zodiac -- defined as those constellations on the ecliptic and through which the sun passes in the course of a year -- in order to accomplish their desire to have each sign rule for an even 30º of sky, but why they would choose Ophiuchus/Asclepius over Scorpio can only be because of his goddess origins in Egypt, as one of the most powerful dieties, on par with Osiris and Thoth, all of whom answered only to Ra.

Asclepius

Asclepius enters prominence in Greek myth with the death of Orion. Orion, the Great Hunter, having already been blinded by Aenopion for ravaging his daughter, Merope, was later cured with the aid of Vulcan and decided to instead "dwell" with Artemis, Goddess of the Hunt, who is associated with the moon and the Roman goddess Diana. Unfortunately, Orion rapes one of her followers (some say he raped Artemis herself), so she sends the Scorpion to poison him, which it does, killing him.

Enter Asclepius, pupil of Chiron, who is able to cure him of the Scorpion's poison and thus resurrect him. After this, Orion ends up in the sky (by varying means in various stories) as the constellation we know, exactly opposite the constellation of the Scorpion (Scorpio). That cad, Orion, from his new height, then spied the 7 Pleiads and began to covet them.

Asclepius' part in the Orion myth is short, but far from insignificant. Zeus, recognizing the actions of Asclepius, transforms the mortal into the immortal Ophiuchus and places him in the sky -- some say as punishment, some as veneration -- with his heel ever grinding down on the back of the Scorpion.

Orion, it is well known, is equated with the Egyptian god Osiris, and the healing diety's role in the story of Osiris is treated with the full importance it deserves.

Isis

Isis was the sister and wife of Osiris. Both were born of Nut, with the aid of Thoth. It seems Nut, the wife of Ra, had a bit of trouble with fidelity and found herself pregnant, but not by Ra. Ra thus cursed her that her child could be born in "no month of no year." At this point, Thoth -- another of Nut's lovers -- steps in and plays a game akin to checkers against the Goddess of the Moon, winning from her the 72nd part of each day of the 360-day year, creating 5 days that were "no month of no year." Nut is then able to deliver Osiris on the first of these five days, and Ra's curse is broken. She then gives birth to Horus on the second day, followed by Set, Isis, and Nephythys on the remaining days.

Osiris grows up to be the Great Civilizer -- the god who brought agriculture and civilization to Egypt, eradicating cannibalism from the land. He decides to then spread the arts of agriculture and civilization to all the lands of the world, and sets off, leaving his wife/sister, Isis, in charge. This enrages his brother, Set, who conspires with 72 other to kill Osiris.

Set and his conspirators trick Osiris into climbing into a coffin, at which point they seal it and hurl it into the Nile. Upon hearing the news, Isis consults Thoth and he advises her to hide in the papyrus by the river, lest they come for her next. In order to protect her, he sends 7 scorpions to accompany her. At some point, in the form of a hawk, Isis finds Osiris' corpse, and their brief reunion creates Horus. Unfortunately, Horus, son of Isis, is stung and killed by one of the scorpions. Ra, taking pity on her, sends Thoth to her aid, and he teaches her a spell that will heal her son. Sure enough, the poison is extracted and Horus is resurrected.

In the meantime, the body of Osiris in its coffin floats out to sea and comes ashore in Byblus, where a sycamore tree sprouts and encases the coffin. Isis hears of this and goes to reclaim her husband's body, which -- after some trouble -- she succeeds in doing. She hides his remains and goes to find their son, Horus, but in the meantime Set finds the body and, fearing the new healing powers of Isis, cuts it up into 14 pieces and scatters them far and wide.

Eventually, Isis is able to recover 13 of the pieces, leaving a shrine at every place she found one. The 14th piece -- his genitals -- was, however, eaten by fish. Still, Isis manages to reassemble Osiris and, with the help of Anubis and Nephythys, does manage to resurrect him, at which point he becomes the God of the Underworld, or God of the Dead, and takes his place in the heavens as the constellation Orion. At the time, Orion set at sunrise on the winter solstice, thereby symbolically entering the Underworld, to be reborn as he rises heliacally on the summer solstice.

Ophiuchus as Isis

There can be little doubt that Ophiuchus is Asclepius. In fact, most sources that recount the myth of Ophiuchus begin by explaining that she was the Greek god Asclepius, then go on to recount his story. But why Asclepius changed names when Zeus made him immortal is not clear. It could be that the constellation he became already had a distinct name and character -- Ophiuchus -- which is now lost to history. The name change at least seems to allude to the fact that the Greeks simply hijacked a much older myth and retooled it to their own needs.

That Ophiuchus -- literally, in Greek, "snake bearer" (Ophioukhos) -- is Isis also is of little doubt. Both Isis and Asclepius gained notoriety by resurrecting a person struck down the by the poison of a scorpion. They both also resurrect the same god, under different names, who was to become the constellation Orion. Snakes also feature prominently in stories of the two healing dieties, as does the Goddess of the Moon. In many ways, the Greek myth of Orion and Asclepius seems to be a ragged echo of the tale of Osiris and Isis, filtered through millennia and the politics of place and time.

But most compelling to declaring Ophiuchus Isis is Ophiuchus' position in the sky. In most all ancient myths, a point in time -- and a solstice or equinox especially -- is defined by both the rising and setting constellations. Fittingly, as Orion/Osiris "dies" (sets at sunrise) on the winter solstice, Scorpio does rise -- but with Ophiuchus on its back, rising heliacally. And as Scorpio "dies" -- when Orion rises heliacally in the summer -- Ophiuchus also is setting, driving the Scorpion down into the Underworld beneath her. In fact, a more accurate observation of the sky belies the fact that Ophiuchus is the true astronomical opposite of Orion, as she is the constellation closest to being 180º away from him.

Click [here] for visual aids.

So saying, in myth the opposite of Osiris/Orion -- God of the Dead -- was none other than Isis, Goddess of Healing (or the Living). Thus, astronomically, as well as mythologically, Isis is certainly Ophiuchus.

Missing Ophiuchus

Given the roles of Ophiuchus/Isis and the Scorpion when linked to the tale of Osiris/Orion, it doesn't take much logic to see which sign should be expunged from the zodiac -- if, indeed, one must go. Surely that creature which killed Orion and slew the offspring of Osiris should be denegrated the rubbish heap of myth, unworthy of mention? Instead, the Greeks removed Ophiuchus -- a Goddess of the Living who could resurrect the dead -- and left in the villian, a mere animal. The only reason for so doing, as stated earlier, seems to be that the origins of Ophiuchus as the powerful and wise Egyptian goddess Isis -- the mother-goddess and protector of pharaoh -- did not sit well with their new patriarchal outlook on the world.

We feel she should thus be restored to her former glory, not only to retain the original concept of a 13-constellation zodiac, but also to retain the memory of her and her contributions to humanity.

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The original symbol for Ophiuchus is the caduceus with is actually a depiction of the female womb.

The galactic center, or Ophiuchus is the birth center, the star gate, and is depicted in many images (the black madonna and christ for one).

The mother is returning... as symbolized by the number 13. The 'holy grail' the 'stargate' etc.
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So to you the black madona and christ are the same thing!?

Either case, to me the "caduceus" is more like a symbol for DNA with the two cross polarized waves...
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The original symbol for Ophiuchus is the caduceus with is actually a depiction of the female womb.

The galactic center, or Ophiuchus is the birth center, the star gate, and is depicted in many images (the black madonna and christ for one).

The mother is returning... as symbolized by the number 13. The 'holy grail' the 'stargate' etc.
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1 = 3
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Ophiuchus + the Sun in 2012 = Healing....

rejoice your mother is returning to bring you life again
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The original symbol for Ophiuchus is the caduceus with is actually a depiction of the female womb.

The galactic center, or Ophiuchus is the birth center, the star gate, and is depicted in many images (the black madonna and christ for one).

The mother is returning... as symbolized by the number 13. The 'holy grail' the 'stargate' etc.


So to you the black madona and christ are the same thing!?

Either case, to me the "caduceus" is more like a symbol for DNA with the two cross polarized waves...
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no i was saying 'for one' as in for instance of an image of the black hole giving birth to 'the son/sun'
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Either case, to me the "caduceus" is more like a symbol for DNA with the two cross polarized waves...
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i see it more as RNA, since DNA has four waves so-to-speak....


RNA tells DNA what to do so-to-speak....
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Oh shit

[link to www.examiner.com]

Sources including Allvoices.com, said the new astrological sign -- which pertains to those born between November 29 through December 17 and called Ophiuchus -- includes a plethora of celebrities.

Besides Manny Pacquaio and Jay-Z, there are Taylor Swift, Jamie Foxx, Tyra Banks, Jeff Bridges, Ben Stiller, Nicki Minaj and Britney Spears in the new grouping.
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We all have this knowledge at our disposal, we've just had our awareness focused with laser-beam precision by this matrix program so that we have come to believe we need our sense organs to learn.

It's all a process of remembering, and we each have a grain of the truth inside of us that will rise to the surface and fit into the big mosaic -- and then suddenly the final piece in a puzzle will snap in and we'll all see the big picture together.
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The big picture...is what most people want but can't get past the variances in the details...they bicker about bible verses or historical accounts that couldn't possibly be true because science differs...etc...which does not allow the progression to the whole.

All paths lead to one...

Everyone's perception differs yet I believe they'll all lead to the same thing...our role as creator in our own life.

I have not yet glimpsed it in it's entirety...but I feel humanity as a whole is very close to this realization.
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1 = 3
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WOW! You really have very strange math!!! shock
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More celebs and Ophi's

And guess who among our favorite celebs falls in this category? Rock legend Ozzy Osbourne (December 3), singer Britney Spears (December 2), Taylor Swift (December 13), Jennifer Connelly (December 12), Billy Idol (November 30) and director Woody Allen (December 1); all are our star Ophiuchus.

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Re: The Innitiation of Ophiuchus (13th Zodiac) and the introduction into mass conciousness by MSM - 2012
The original symbol for Ophiuchus is the caduceus with is actually a depiction of the female womb.

The galactic center, or Ophiuchus is the birth center, the star gate, and is depicted in many images (the black madonna and christ for one).

The mother is returning... as symbolized by the number 13. The 'holy grail' the 'stargate' etc.


So to you the black madona and christ are the same thing!?

Either case, to me the "caduceus" is more like a symbol for DNA with the two cross polarized waves...


no i was saying 'for one' as in for instance of an image of the black hole giving birth to 'the son/sun'
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female womb


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Re: The Innitiation of Ophiuchus (13th Zodiac) and the introduction into mass conciousness by MSM - 2012
CHECK THIS OUT!!!!


Ophiuchus, Serpentarius, Serpent Tamer, Center of Galaxy

Egyptian Winged Sun Disc
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Egyptian Winged Serpent
images [link to historical.benabraham.com]


Egyptian Winged Goddess

BenBen Stone
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It was on this stone that the Phoenix or Benu Bird would return every 12.594 years and place its new Egg. At that moment a new Era of Mankind was started.

Benu Bird
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Sagittarius Serpentarius Bird
[link to www.kenyabirds.org.uk]


Sagittarius Serpentarius Bird in flight
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wtf wtf [link to masonicblog.com]
notice 13 stars in the sphere above the head, 13 arrows, and 13 leaves, 13 stripes (The Secretary Bird is instantly recognizable as having an eagle-like body; the Secretary Bird's "quills" to a quiver of arrows [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Re: The Innitiation of Ophiuchus (13th Zodiac) and the introduction into mass conciousness by MSM - 2012
Either case, to me the "caduceus" is more like a symbol for DNA with the two cross polarized waves...

i see it more as RNA, since DNA has four waves so-to-speak....

RNA tells DNA what to do so-to-speak....
 Quoting: Sugarelf

Well, that's not exactly how it works! But then again, you seem to be "executing" very strange math!!!
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Re: The Innitiation of Ophiuchus (13th Zodiac) and the introduction into mass conciousness by MSM - 2012
the black hole - the galactic center..

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Re: The Innitiation of Ophiuchus (13th Zodiac) and the introduction into mass conciousness by MSM - 2012
Ophiuchus traits:

[link to www.ibtimes.com]

* Many people are envious of the Ophiuchan as he/she progresses well throughout life.

* A seeker of wisdom and knowledge

* A flamboyant dressing sense, favouring bright colours.

* Authority looks upon him/her well

* Would make a great architect or builder

* Number 12 is the lucky number.

* Will have a big family but will leave home at an early age

The 13th sign of the zodiac, unlike the other 12 signs is actually associated with a real person, Imhotep.

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Imhotep, who lived in the 27th Century BCE in Ancient Egypt, was also known as 'Aesclepius' by the Ancient Greeks. However, the attributes are the same under either name.

Ophiuchus is a rarely used astrological sign and is not included in most versions of the Zodiac. It is also known as Serpentarius.

[link to www.ibtimes.com]

Ophiuchus individuals are known for their wisdom and knowledge and they are able to handle any situation. They also have high expectations in life and tend to attract attention wherever they go.
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Re: The Innitiation of Ophiuchus (13th Zodiac) and the introduction into mass conciousness by MSM - 2012
All paths lead to one...

Everyone's perception differs yet I believe they'll all lead to the same thing...our role as creator in our own life.

I have not yet glimpsed it in it's entirety...but I feel humanity as a whole is very close to this realization.
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


..or in other words, each one (1) nof us is a uni-verse in a multi-verse of possibilities...

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