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In the last days the Bible talks about a dominant city that is a major center of commerce that will be destroyed in one hour. Mystery Babylon The Great. The churches will tell you it is referring to the Vatican in Rome. They are wrong.

The Lord showed me several years ago how this last days Babylon is America. I have also seen it in the Bible Codes how America is indeed this prophesied last days Babylon.

To hold the view that this Babylon is referring to the Vatican, you basically ignore 98% of the Scriptures referring to it and hold to one verse that can be easily discredited because a misunderstanding of one term in one verse that can easily be clarified. That is how warped the whole Vatican theory is that most churches and prophecy īgurusī preach today when it comes to Revelation chapters 17 and 18. Why? Why do they want the focus on somewhere else instead of where the Bible is really speaking of?

Consider this: The former prophets all warned of this coming Great Babylon. Letīs look at what each one said about it:

Isaiah said:

1. Babylon would be noted for its architecture, buildings and skyline (Isaiah 13:22)

2. Is the lone super power of the world (Isaiah 47:5,8)

3. Is the most respected and envied around the world and yet at the same time is hated by the world. (Isaiah 18:2)

4. Has a unique and remarkable beginning, different from other nations and has been awe-inspiring from itīs conception. (Isaiah 18:2).

5. Babylon would the QUEEN AMONG THE NATIONS (Isa 47:5,7)

6. Babylon would be an END TIME GREAT NATION (Rev 17,18; Isa 13:6)

7. Babylon is called a lady, and has the symbol of the Lady (Isa 47:7-9). "LIBERTY" on our money, and sits in the New York Harbor.

8. Babylon is nation "peeled", or timbered, a land of open fields (Isa 18:2).

9. Babylon is land quartered by mighty rivers (Isa 18:2).

10. Babylon is a land that is measured out, and populated throughout (Isa 18:2).

11. Babylon destroys her own land, with pollution and waste (Isa 14:20, 18:2, 7).

12. Babylon is the leading INDUSTRIAL NATION OF THE WORLD

13. Babylon has a huge aviation program (Isa 14:13-14;

14. Babylon is a REPUBLIC or a DEMOCRACY, it is ruled by many counsels (Isa 47:13).

15. Babylonīs governmental system breaks down (Isa 47:13).

16. Babylon is bogged down with deliberations and cannot govern properly (Isa 47:13).

17. Babylonīs leaders use astrology, seers and mystics for guidance (Isa 47:13; Rev 18:2).

18. Babylon labored in the occult from her very inception (Isa 47:12).

19. Babylon is a nation of religious confusion (Isa 47:12-13).

20. THE KING OF BABYLON is called LUCIFER, the ANTICHRIST (Isa 14:4-6).

21. The King of Babylon will rule from THE GREAT CITY BABYLON (Isa 14:4-6; Rev 17: 18).

22. A world government entity will rise up to rule the world from BABYLON THE CITY

23. This entity will rise up and use the military power of Babylon the nation to RULE THE WORLD (Isa 14:4-6;

24.Babylon is a nation of higher education and learning (Isa47:10, implied throughout).

25. Babylon is a VIRGIN NATION, her lands untouched by major war (Isa 47:1).9. Babylonīs enemy will lie on the opposite side of the world,over the poles (Isa 13:5)

26. The enemy of Babylon will be noted for her cruelty (Isa 13,14, Jer 50, 51, Rev 17, 18).

27. The people of Babylon would think they are Godīs elect and eternal (Isa 47:7-8,

28. The nation Babylon dwells carelessly before the Lord (Isa 47:8).

29. Babylon becomes proud, haughty, and does not consider her end (Isa 47:7-8).

30. Babylon deals in the occult, in sorceries and drugs (Isa 47:9, 12; Rev 18:23)

31. The people of Babylon are deep into astrology and spiritism (Isa 47:12; Rev 18:2).

32. Babylonīs enemy will lie on the opposite side of the world,over the poles (Isa 13:5)

Jeremiah prophesied:

1. Babylon would be the center of a one world Luciferian religious movement (Jer 51:44)

2. Babylon would be the youngest and greatest of the end time nations (Jer 50:12). USA

3. Babylon would be the most powerful nation in the world (Isa 47, Jer 50, 51, Rev 18). USA

4. Babylon would be the HAMMER OF THE WHOLE EARTH (Jer 50:23; Rev 18:23). USA

5. Babylon would be the praise of the WHOLE EARTH (Jer 51:41). USA

6. Babylon is a land rich in mineral wealth (Jer 51:13).

7. Babylon is a the leading agricultural nation of the world (Jer 50, 51; Rev 18).

8. Babylon is the leading exporting nation in the world (Jer 51:13; Rev 18).

9. Babylon is the leading importing nation of the entire world.(Jer 50, 51; Rev 18).

10. Babylon is a nation filled with warehouses and granaries (Jer 50:26).

11. Babylon is the leading INDUSTRIAL NATION OF THE WORLD (Isa 13, 47, Jer 50, 51; Rev 18).

12. Babylon is noted for her horses (Jer 50:37). Think Kentucky

13. Babylon is noted for her cattle, sheep and other livestock (Jer 50:26, 27; Rev 18:13).

14. Babylon is noted for her fine flour and mill operations (Rev 18:13)

15. Babylon is a nation of farmers and harvests huge crops (Jer 50:16, 26, 27).28. Babylon has a huge aviation program (Isa 14:13-14; Jer 51:53; Hab 1:6-10).

16. Babylonīs skies are filled with the whisper of aircraft wings (Isa 18:1; Jer 51:53).

17. Babylon has a huge space industry, has "mounted up to the heavens" (Jer 51:53).

18. Babylon fortifies her skies with a huge military aviation program (Jer 51:53).

19. Babylon is portrayed as a leading in high tech weapons and abilities (Jer 51:53; Hab 1:6-10; implied throughout).

20. Babylon is a coastal nation and sits upon MANY WATERS (Jer 51:13).

21. Babylon is nation filled with a "mingled" people (Jer 50:37).

22. Babylon is a SINGULAR NATION founded upon OUT OF MANY, ONE (Isa 13, 47, Jer 50, 51, Hab 1).

23. Babylon was born as a CHRISTIAN NATION (Jer 50:12).

24. Babylon turns upon its heritage and destroys it all in the end (Jer 50:11).

25. Babylonīs Christian leaders lead their flock astray in prophecy and salvation (Jer 50:6; implied Rev 18:2).

26. Babylonīs Christian leaders are "strangers" in the Lord Houses of Worship (Jer 51:51).

27. Babylon sets of detention centers for Jews and Christians and rounds them up for extermination (Jer 50:7, 33; 51:35, 49; Rev 17:6; 18:24).

28. Babylon has a mother nation that remains in existence from her birth to death (Jer 50: 12). (ENGLAND)

29. The mother of Babylon has the symbol of the LION (Dan7:4; Eze 38:13; Jer 51:38; Psalms 17:12).

30. The mother of Babylon will rule over her daughter her entire life (Dan 7:4; Jer 50:12). Follow the money, we are under total control of Englandīs Banks, and have been since 1914

31. The mother of Babylon will be a state of major decline as the end nears (Jer 50:12).

32. Babylon is considered to be a lionīs whelp (Eze 38:13; Jer 51:38).58.

33. Babylon will have the symbol of the EAGLE and builds her nest in the stars (Dan 7:4 EAGLE WINGS; Isa 14:13-14; Jer 51:53). Who else has a space program as we do?

34. Babylon is a huge producer and exporter of automobiles (Jer 50:37; Rev 18:13).

35. Babylon is a nation of CRAFTSMEN, experts in their trade (Jer 50, 51, Rev 18:22).

36. Babylon is a nation with a GREAT VOICE in world affairs (Jer 51:55)

37 .Babylon will be instrumental in the setting up of Israel in the Middle East, and is the home of Godīs people (Jer 50:47;51:45).

38. Babylon will have a major enemy to her north (Jer 50:3, 9, 41).

39. The enemy of Babylon will also have a huge aviation military machine (Jer 50:9, 14, Rev 18:8, 18 implied throughout).

40. Babylon will have all of her borders cut off, and there will be no way of escape (Jer 50:28; 51:32).

41. Babylon is land vast land with huge cities, towns and villages throughout (Implied throughout).

42. Babylon will have been a huge missionary nation for Jesus Christ (Jer 50:11; 51:7).

43. Babylon would be a home to multitudes of Jews who leave (Jer 50:4-6, 8; 51:6, 45)

44. The people of Babylon would not know their true identity(Jer 50:6, implied throughout).

45. The people of Babylon would grow mad upon their idols (Jer 50:2, 38; Hab 2:18).

46. How is the hammer of the whole earth cut asunder and broken! how is Babylon become a desolation among the nations! -Jeremiah 50:23

47. O thou that dwellest upon many waters, abundant in treasures, thine end is come, and the measure of thy covetousness. The LORD of hosts hath sworn by himself, saying, Surely I will fill thee with men, as with caterpillars; and they shall lift up a shout against thee. -Jeremiah 51:12-14


48. Plays a leadership role in Outer Space Exploration (Jer. 51:3)

49. Is where the worldīs leaders meet and assemble (Jer. 51:44)

50. Incorporated many aspects of the old Babylonian religion (Jer. 50:2).



The Apostle John said in the Book of Revelation:

1. Babylon deals in the occult, in sorceries and drugs (Isa 47:9, 12; Rev 18:23)

2. The people of Babylon would go into deep sins of all kinds (Rev 18:5).

3. The people of Babylon would think they are Godīs elect and eternal (Isa 47:7-8, Rev 18:7).

4. The people of Babylon would enjoy the highest standard of living in the world (Rev 18:7).

5. Babylon will be destroyed by nuclear fire (Implied throughout)

6. Babylon is land vast land with huge cities, towns and villages throughout (Implied throughout).

7. The enemy of Babylon will be noted for her cruelty (Isa 13,14, Jer 50, 51, Rev 17, 18).

8. The enemy of Babylon will also have a huge aviation military machine (Jer 50:9, 14, Rev 18:8, 18 implied throughout).

9. Babylon has a vast military machine (Jer 50:36; 51:30; Hab 1 & 2, Rev 13:4).

10. This entity will rise up and use the military power of Babylon the nation to RULE THE WORLD (Isa 14:4-6; Hab 1 & 2, Rev 13, 17).

11. Babylon is a huge producer and exporter of automobiles (Jer 50:37; Rev 18:13).

12. Babylon is a nation of CRAFTSMEN, experts in their trade (Jer 50, 51, Rev 18:22).

13. Babylon is noted for her jewelry of gold and silver (Rev 18:22).

14. Babylon is a huge importer and exporter of spices (Rev 18:13).

15. Babylon is a huge exporter of fine marble products (Rev 18:22).

16. Babylon is noted for her iron and steel production (Rev 18:12).

17. Babylon has huge corporations that have bases around the world (Rev 18:23, implied throughout)

18. A world government entity will rise up to rule the world from BABYLON THE CITY (Isa 14; Hab 2, Rev 13, 17, 18).

19. Babylon turns totally antichrist and is the leading antichrist power at the end (Rev 18:2; Isa 14:4-6).

20. The King of Babylon will rule from THE GREAT CITY BABYLON (Isa 14:4-6; Rev 17: 18).

21. Babylon turns upon its own people and imprisons and slays them by millions (Jer 50:7,33; 51:35; 39; Dan 7:25; Rev 13:7;17:6; 18:24).

22. Babylon sets of detention centers for Jews and Christians and rounds them up for extermination (Jer 50:7, 33; 51:35, 49; Rev 17:6; 18:24).

23. The people of Babylon are deep into astrology and spiritism (Isa 47:12; Rev 18:2).

24. Babylon becomes the home of all antichrist religions in the world (Rev 18:2).

25. Babylonīs Christian leaders lead their flock astray in prophecy and salvation (Jer 50:6; implied Rev 18:2).

26. Babylon falls to the occult just before her end by nuclear fire (Rev 18:2)

27. Babylonīs leaders use astrology, seers and mystics for guidance (Isa 47:13; Rev 18:2).

28. Babylon trades with all who have ships in the sea year round(Rev 18:17-18).

29. Babylon is a nation filled with warm water seaports (Rev 18:17-19).

30. Babylon is a huge exporter of MUSIC (Rev 18:22).

31. Babylonīs musicians are known around the world (Rev 18:22)

32. Babylon is noted for her cattle, sheep and other livestock (Jer 50:26, 27; Rev 18:13).

33. Babylon is noted for her fine flour and mill operations (Rev 18:13)

34. Babylon is the leading INDUSTRIAL NATION OF THE WORLD (Isa 13, 47, Jer 50, 51; Rev 18).

35. Babylon is a the leading agricultural nation of the world (Jer 50, 51; Rev 18).

36. Babylon is the leading exporting nation in the world (Jer 51:13; Rev 18).

37. Babylon is the leading importing nation of the entire world.(Jer 50, 51; Rev 18).

38. Babylon is center of world trade (Jer 51:44; Rev 17:18; 18:19).USA

39. Babylon would grow to be the richest nation in the world (Rev 18:3, 7, 19, 23). USA

40. All nations that traded with Babylon would grow rich (Rev 18:3). USA

41. The merchants of Babylon were the GREAT MEN OF THE EARTH (Rev 18:23). USA, all one need to do is look at the huge multi-national corporations that exist. American companies (merchants) the greatest on Earth.

42. Babylon would the QUEEN AMONG THE NATIONS (Isa 47:5,7; Rev 18:7). USA

43. Babylon would be the most powerful nation in the world (Isa 47, Jer 50, 51, Rev 18). USA

44. Babylon would be the HAMMER OF THE WHOLE EARTH (Jer 50:23; Rev 18:23). USA

45. Babylon would be the center for the move to a global economic order (Rev 13:16).

46. The Great City Babylon would be the economic nerve center of the world (Rev 18:3). New York is the Financial Capital of the World.

47. Babylon would be an END TIME GREAT NATION (Rev 17,18; Isa 13:6).

48. Babylon would have a huge seaport city within its borders (Rev 18:17). New York harbor is the biggest in theWorld.

49. The Great City Babylon is the home of a world government attempt (Rev 17:18). This can only be NEW YORK, where the United Nations sits.

50. Is considered intoxicating for itīs high society lifestyle (Rev. 17:2, 18:3,23)

51. Is noted for its elegant and extravagant lifestyle (Rev. 18:14).

52. Is noted for being a city/nation of immigrants from all over the world (Rev. 18:15).

53. Is noted for a massive population (Rev. 18:15).

54. Is noted for its importation of drugs (Rev. 18:23).

55.Is the leading center of Commerce (Rev. 17:2)

56. Is the leading center of imports and consumption (Rev. 18:11)

57.Is a leading center of manufacturing (Rev. 18:22)

58. Is the center for world trade in gold, silver, copper, oil, precious gems, cloth, clothing, fashions, lumber, containers, household items, furniture, wine, livestock, transportation, health products, cosmetics, spices, marble, irony, and iron. (Rev. 18:11-13)


There is no other city or nation on earth that could fulfill these requirements other than the United States of America. There are some who hold to the view this passage is referring only to New York City. In fact, it refers to both NYC and the entire nation. The term "city" translated from the Greek means city or nation. In this instance, it refers to a nation led by its chief city, which is New York City. So in some instances it is talking about New York City, and in others the nation itself. And if youīre not convinced, go back and read all these prophecies again about the last great nation on earth.

The Bible Codes confirm that America is Babylon, and that the beasts coming will rule here, will be here, and will take over and destroy this country on their way to global rule from Jerusalem.

Isnīt it amazing that there are over 100 prophecies that only one super power nation in the last days could fulfill and the churches tell you today that America isnīt mentioned in last days prophecies? Insane.

Neither does the Vatican fulfill these prophecies, Europe, or anyone else. The Lone Super Power now is the United States, and in the last days, which we are in, the lone super power of the world remains the United States. There isnīt enough time for another nation to rise and fulfill all these requirements and become the lone super power of the world. Many scholars claim that the Roman Catholic Church is Mystery Babylon based on one verse in Revelation Chapter 17 that has been misunderstood by them. Mystery Babylon is the United States folks. And once you realize this, you soon learn how dominant America is in last days prophecies and what the truth is in regards to them.

Letīs look at Revelation Chapter 17:

And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials and talked with me saying unto me, īCome hither; and I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: (verse 1)

The Apostle John is told by one of the seven angels holding the seven vials (known as the 7 bowl judgments) that he is going to show him the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters. The term whore is in reference to the Greek word "porne" which in English we use for pornography. In Greek it is also used for improper sexual relations which could mean anything sexual that occurs outside of marriage. To the Jews who consider their relationship with God as a marriage, then the term could also be used worshiping another god or deity. In other words, idol worship.

Another thought is the fact that this nation has gone outside God and has aligned itself with someone or something else. In America, Satanism and witchcraft have become dominant, not to mention their alignment with Aliens and the forces of Satan in exchange for technology. America has over 129 deep underground military bases. How many of them are being used as joint military-alien bases? At least 32 including the Dulce Base in Dulce, New Mexico, Area 51 in Nevada, Los Alamos in Taos, New Mexico, and many others across the country.

The sentence "sitteth upon many waters" in Strongs itīs #5204 which is figurative for many peoples. America is the melting pot of the world as far as immigration. We also are surrounded by fresh water from the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, the Great Lakes, and the Gulf of Mexico. Not to mention the many lakes, streams and rivers throughout this country. But the term īwatersī in relation to symbolism and Bible prophecy usually relates to people.
With whom the kings of the earth have commmitted fornication and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication (verse 2).

This verse coincides with what Jeremiah said in 51:7 "Babylon has been a golden cup in the Lordīs hand, that made all the earth drunken: the nations have drunken her wine; therefore the nations are mad."

America has influenced the other nations of the earth to partake in her fornication. They are drunk with the wine of her fornication. They are filled with Godīs wrath as they partake in Americaīs fornication which is adultery, fornication, homosexuality, lesbianism, intercourse with animals etc. and also idol worship. Worshiping things outside and contrary to the Lord.

America is steeped in its masonic heritage with its masonic and satanic idols and symbols all over the land from the statue of Liberty to the dollar bill.

Not only are the many perversions here spreading across the world, but the kings of other nations have also been negotiating their own treaties with the aliens and Satanīs forces to gain technology from them.

The Christian nations, or what were considered at one time to be Christian nations, have turned their backs on God and have climbed in bed with the devil. This gives him access and authority to rule over these nations and heīs overtaken them all as he prepares to come to earth as the Antichrist. Even the Gentile nations have secretly gotten involved with the greed of having their own UFO technology.
So he carried me away in the spirit into the wildernesss: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet colored beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns (verse 3).

The woman is sitting on the beast. Sheīs dominating the red colored beast that is full of names of blasphemy and has seven heads and ten horns.

The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sitteth as revealed further down in verse 9. The term mountains in symbolism can refer to a land mass or a political authority. In this instance, she sits in authority over 7 mountains, or land masses. The Seven continents. The final "Rome", the final great empire of the earth, will rule the earth, literally. The last great empire on earth will rule over all the continents on it. How? Economics, refer to Revelation 13 where the entire world must join the beast economic policy that originates from Babylon. Or, the United Nations that dominates and rules over the continents of the earth.

Horns are symbolic of leaders. It could be signifying a 10 nation confederacy that America is in alignment with, or 10 leaders, a council, that rules and dominates. We have also seen where the United Nations has divided the world up into 10 spheres, and plan for a leader to each sphere.

Still yet, Babylon sits on top of the UN and dominates her. Babylon the whore, dominates the beast and his 7 heads and 10 horns.
And the woman was arrayed in purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication (verse 4).

The woman is dressed in purple and scarlet. In symbolic term purple represents royalty and in the last days, red represents the false Jews, the Edomites, and/or the isms such as communism, socialism, fascism, etc..

Gold and jewelry signifies her wealth. The woman is seen as royalty. What does royalty have? Wealth, power, and authority and she contains Edomites and/or one of the isms. John even describes "having a golden cup in her hand" which is a trademark of the Statue of Liberty which was originally designed to hold a cup, but was changed to hold a torch instead to be a light in the harbor for ships for navigation. Cup is also used as a term for judgment. The term abominations means moral or physical pollutions. It is also just another term for sin. Abominations are sins. Fornication means impurity and/or idolatry. Idolatry in her unholy relationship with Satan, secret societies, aliens and fallen angels. America has many idolatries. She is filled with them.

A nation holding a cup. She is holding judgment (perhaps meting out judgment on others as policeman of the world) filled with her many idolatries not to mention treaties with unholy Satanic alien beings. Yep, this sounds like America. Have we stooped this low? Yes.
And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH" (verse 5).

I view this verse a bit differently than most. The term Mystery always seems to have an occultic connotation to it. Or it can mean a secret. In this instance I think we can let it speak for itself since it is in regards to unholy Satanic ridden Babylon in that it is a mystery is in regards to the occult. Or even that it operates, secretly (although getting more out in the open) through satanic secret societies that worship the devil. Not to mention the shadow government that operates behind the scenes in alliance with Lucifer and his alien forces.

In other words, Mystery, or Occultic Babylon the Great. The term harlots is another term used for prostitutes. These kinds of terms are almost used in regards to religious terms. I have seen in the Bible Codes where the Hebrews use the term such as prostitution for those who prostitute the Bible. It has a religious and sexual meaning. But in this instance, I am led to believe it is the religious one.

America, the Mother of Prostitutes. The Mother of all those who prostitute the Word of God, or Him. Some of you cannot fathom the idea that America is this evil. You hold this country in high esteem with all its pastors and religious leaders, our churches, radio and television networks that seemingly teach and preach His Word and about Him to the world. But once you get away from the religious programming and start seeking Him for the truth you realize how evil our religious system is and how these false doctrines that most of our religious leaders and churches teach today are leading people to the pit of hell and not to HIM. And until you do that you will not understand the significance of this verse. These prostitutes are the false prophets and false shepherds leading this country, and going out into the world, evangelizing and leading people to the pit of hell instead of to Him. They are preaching a false gospel and a different Jesus than the one He came here as. Yahweh told me, "They proclaim My Name, but they know Me not!" It is that horrifying and that simple.

And if this isnīt enough to prove to you that this entire passage of Scripture is talking about America, read the book America, The Babylon by R.A. Coombes as he goes into an indepth study on our masonic Statue of Liberty (a representation of the goddess Ishtar) that alone fulfills all the identifying characteristics of this Babylon of the future. It will shock you to learn that the founding of this country from the start had its roots in occultic origins. Not to mention the layout of Washington D.C. and the capital-temple of D.C. dedicated to the goddess Ishtar when constructed.
And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration" (verse 6).

America is intoxicated, drunken with the blood of the Saints. And you thought this was a religious nation? Things are going to change. Through martial law and the targeting of the saints through Patriot Acts 1 and 2, tens of thousands, even millions will be killed and become martyrs for the Lord.

Since the 1980s under Operation Rex our government has built internment camps across the country to hold īresistors of the New World Order." All those it deems, through their massive profiling over the years, who will resist the rule of the NWO. This fulfills Jeremiahīs prophecies about the last nation building internment camps and slaughtering millions of its own people.

When disasters start to strike this country and cities start going under martial law, they will implement their plans of eliminating Saints and Patriots who they have profiled and listed as being likely resistors of the New World Order. How did they compile their lists? Church records of members (who are required to give the state lists of all those who tithe to them or give them money). Also various other ways, simply put, they spy on people. They spy on what you read, what websites you visit, what groups you belong to, etc.. They even record your phone conversations and read your emails. Over the years the NSA and FBI have compiled records on just about every person in the United States. And from these records they have compiled extermination lists and have you targeted by your social security number.

Now do you realize the real reason for road blocks? When they want to target those on red lists (immediate extermination) they will set up road blocks to find them. When they stop your car they will run your SSN# to see if you are on the list. There are 3 lists, red, blue and green (some say itīs yellow). Those on the red list are to be arrested and taken to an extermination facility immediately, no questions asked. Those on the blue list are taken to holding camps where they will be processed for extermination. Those on the green list are considered to be NWO friendly and not a threat.

The Satanic New World Order crowd fully intends on killing up to 60 million Americans to establish their control here in America without the hassles from possible resistors. And they have the facilities and capability to do so. And they did it all with taxpayer money and under the noses of the people.

When it says John wondered at her "with great admiration" it is not that he was impressed, he was flabbergasted! In the literal Greek translation it reads, "I was astonished beyond astonishment." He is disgusted at the ability, scope, and depth to which the saints will be murdered in America.
And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou Marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns" (verse 7).

In the previous verse it said the woman sits on the beast. In this one it says the beast carries her. Pretty much it means the same thing. Picture a horse and itīs rider.
The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names are not written into the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is" (verse 8).

This verse is a verb nightmare. It goes back and forth between the past, present and future. The Beast is going to come out of the bottomless pit, which is the abyss, which is space. An "alien." Those on the earth, who are not Yahwehīs, will fall into the deception and lies that this alien speaks and worship him. If you read my previous book on the False Prophet and NESARA agenda of the Omegans, you will recognize an alien called Maitreya, St. Germaine, St. Sananda, whatever name he uses that comes as the False Prophet. He will come proclaiming He is Jesus, the Messiah, (or whatever prophet each religion in the world is waiting for to come). He will deceive them all. When the Antichrist comes he will come as "God the Father." The false prophet "Jesus" will decieve the world into worshipping the "Father" Antichrist.
and here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth (verse 9).

Ok so we already know this from the previous verse. The seven head of the beast are seven mountains. This one verse is what throws most people off into thinking it is referring to the Vatican. The area of the Vatican is surrounded by 7 hills, not mountains. There are no mountains in Rome, if you were to take the term literal. In this instance, it is symbolic because we are being told that the woman sitting on the beast has authority over the entire world, all 7 continents. Something no previous empire had ever accomplished. Also, the term beast is masculine. It is referring to a person.

The woman rides the beast. Her power is unchallenged. Sheīs in control of this beast. The woman is a nation. What kind of power? In economics, military, and influence. She is a lone super power.
And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come: and when he cometh he must continue a short space.

And the beast that was, and is not, even he is an eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition (verses 10 and 11).

These seven kings represent the 7 empires of the past and the "present" as in relating to Johnīs time, which is approximately 90 A.D. or sometime towards the end of that century. Some put Johnīs book anywhere from 78 to 98 A.D.

The ruling empires of the past were Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, and Greece. At Johnīs time, the ruling empire was Rome.

So what is the seventh ruling empire? The beast is from the seventh and becomes the eighth himself. I believe the New World Order is the seventh and the NWO is being dominated and run by America. The beast comes out of the 7th great ruling empire. America is the lone super power today. There is no other empire since ancient Rome that has dominated the earth as America has. Notice the beast is a king. It is the Antichrist that comes from the last great ruling empire on earth, America.
And the ten horns which you sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings for one hour with the beast.

These shall have one mind, and shall give their power and strength to the beast.

These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them for He is Lord of lords, and King of Kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful (verses 12-14).

The 10 horns are 10 kings who receive power as kings for a short time with the beast. The Greek word used, "basileis" doesnīt always refer to kings in particular, but to leaders. They have no kingdom as of yet. In other words, they are representatives or ambassadors from other countries who become appointed by the beast as those countries "kings."

So what happened to the 10 countries previous kings? It doesnīt say. But they are replaced by these new ones. Or, perhaps, since they have no kingdom, they are appointed as an interim leader over a particular area or kingdom as a representative of the beast.

In other words, the beast creates a council of 10 people and each of these people becomes a representative for him over a particular country. Or, as with the UN who has on paper already divided the world up into 10 areas, each king becomes a leader/representative of one of these areas.

The passage says these kings all have one mind and give their power to the beast. This means they are all in agreement with each other and give their power and strength to the beast. They form an alliance. They give him control or full support of their militaries and financial backing.

So we have 10 people, who are awarded control of 10 countries, and then they give that countries military and full support to the Antichrist beast. Doesnīt make sense does it? But that is what happens.

And what do all these geniuses decide to do? To make war with the Lamb, the real Messiah Jesus Christ, Yahushua. They proclaim war on the Son of God.

Not too bright are they?
And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues (verse 15)..

The angel is telling John that the waters where the whore sits contains people of all nations, races and languages. These people are in her land. In other words, where the whore rules from, contains people of all races and languages. It contains immigrants from around the world. America is the only nation in the world ever referred to as the melting pot for exiles and immigrants.
And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked. And shall eat her flesh and burn her with fire.

For God hath put in their hearts to fulfill his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled (verses 16-17).


Ok, now remember the beast is a person, masculine tense, the whore is a nation. The Beast comes OUT of the nation. Heīs from the nation itself. He goes and makes a 10 nation alliance, to destroy his own nation.

Why? Because heīs a traitor? Well yes, but also because he subverted it to begin with as a leader/president so he could do exactly what heīs going to do, turn around and destroy it.

He rises to political authority through America, as the President of the United States no doubt, then makes an agreement and an alliance with the heads of 10 other countries to destroy his own country.

Remember, the woman (nation) rides the beast. She controls him. He hates her, (the nation) and so burns with her fire.

Doesnīt make sense does it? But that is exactly what happens. As president he makes her desolate and naked. He makes her desolate through the murder of thousands, perhaps millions of the saints, then pulls her defenses down so she can be attacked and destroyed.

Another thing is this. One of the things I have seen over and over in the Bible Codes is that when the President of the United States originally dies (Rev. 13), a formal state funeral is given and he is replaced as president by someone else. When he comes back as "God" but we know him as Satan incarnate as man, the Antichrist, he no longer has a position of authority. Someone else has already replaced him as president. Besides, when he comes back the False Prophet claims this beast arriving is "God" returning to earth to build his kingdom on earth, so that changes things quite a bit on the world scene.

The theatrics involved with bringing the former president of the USA back to earth as God would warrant an Oscar nomination. It involves technology from a gramophone at the space station to announce his arrival to theatrical light and image effects from H.A.A.R.P. This whole charade is known as the Blue Beam Project and they have been working on perfecting it for years.

All of this stuff has been well planned in advance. In fact, it is American taxpayer money and the illegal sale of drugs and child pornography that has funded not only the preparation and the coming war on the saints, but the arrival of Satan as God in a spectacular display of technology with light and sound affects all the way from space to the earth.

From what I have seen, when he returns he is at odds with the person who replaced him as president of the United States. They do not get along. I donīt know if he stays in America, but we know what he does when he comes back. He makes an alliance with 10 other people, appoints them as leaders of the countries they are from or UN spheres, and then destroys and attacks America.
And the woman which thou sawest is that great city which reigneth over the kings of the earth (verse 18).

Remember the term city also means nation. So it can be a literal city, or the chief city inside of a nation, or the nation itself. In this instance itīs back to New York City itself and speaking of the United Nations, which by then, might be in rule over the nations of the earth. Right now itīs a joke. But that could change.

If not, then it would be referring to Washington D.C. the political capitol of Babylon and the governing center of the New World Order.

I donīt think the Scriptures were unclear about who the last days Babylon was going to be. I donīt think you could describe America any better than this. Why wonīt your church leaders tell you? Because they are the Harlots in cahoots with the devil to keep you in the dark or just plain ignorant of what the Bible really says. If you could read over the 100 prophecies describing the end times nation in power and recognize it as America, why canīt they? Get out of the churches and back into Yahweh. The last days churches as signified by the church of Laodicea in Revelation chapter 3 are not of Him. He is seen standing outside the door of them. In other words, HE IS NOT IN THEM.


Any body agree with this?

Just trying to start up another Bable on thred thats all! hayseed
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They have no kingdom as of yet. In other words, they are representatives or ambassadors from other countries who become appointed by the beast as those countries "kings."

So what happened to the 10 countries previous kings? It doesnīt say. But they are replaced by these new ones. Or, perhaps, since they have no kingdom, they are appointed as an interim leader over a particular area or kingdom as a representative of the beast.

In other words, the beast creates a council of 10 people and each of these people becomes a representative for him over a particular country. Or, as with the UN who has on paper already divided the world up into 10 areas, each king becomes a leader/representative of one of these areas.

The passage says these kings all have one mind and give their power to the beast. This means they are all in agreement with each other and give their power and strength to the beast. They form an alliance. They give him control or full support of their militaries and financial backing.

So we have 10 people, who are awarded control of 10 countries, and then they give that countries military and full support to the Antichrist beast. Doesnīt make sense does it? But that is what happens.

And what do all these geniuses decide to do? To make war with the Lamb, the real Messiah Jesus Christ, Yahushua. They proclaim war on the Son of God.

Not too bright are they?
And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues (verse 15)..

The angel is telling John that the waters where the whore sits contains people of all nations, races and languages. These people are in her land. In other words, where the whore rules from, contains people of all races and languages. It contains immigrants from around the world. America is the only nation in the world ever referred to as the melting pot for exiles and immigrants.
And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked. And shall eat her flesh and burn her with fire.

For God hath put in their hearts to fulfill his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled (verses 16-17).


Ok, now remember the beast is a person, masculine tense, the whore is a nation. The Beast comes OUT of the nation. Heīs from the nation itself. He goes and makes a 10 nation alliance, to destroy his own nation.

Why? Because heīs a traitor? Well yes, but also because he subverted it to begin with as a leader/president so he could do exactly what heīs going to do, turn around and destroy it.

He rises to political authority through America, as the President of the United States no doubt, then makes an agreement and an alliance with the heads of 10 other countries to destroy his own country.

Remember, the woman (nation) rides the beast. She controls him. He hates her, (the nation) and so burns with her fire.

Doesnīt make sense does it? But that is exactly what happens. As president he makes her desolate and naked. He makes her desolate through the murder of thousands, perhaps millions of the saints, then pulls her defenses down so she can be attacked and destroyed.

Another thing is this. One of the things I have seen over and over in the Bible Codes is that when the President of the United States originally dies (Rev. 13), a formal state funeral is given and he is replaced as president by someone else. When he comes back as "God" but we know him as Satan incarnate as man, the Antichrist, he no longer has a position of authority. Someone else has already replaced him as president. Besides, when he comes back the False Prophet claims this beast arriving is "God" returning to earth to build his kingdom on earth, so that changes things quite a bit on the world scene.

The theatrics involved with bringing the former president of the USA back to earth as God would warrant an Oscar nomination. It involves technology from a gramophone at the space station to announce his arrival to theatrical light and image effects from H.A.A.R.P. This whole charade is known as the Blue Beam Project and they have been working on perfecting it for years.

All of this stuff has been well planned in advance. In fact, it is American taxpayer money and the illegal sale of drugs and child pornography that has funded not only the preparation and the coming war on the saints, but the arrival of Satan as God in a spectacular display of technology with light and sound affects all the way from space to the earth.

From what I have seen, when he returns he is at odds with the person who replaced him as president of the United States. They do not get along. I donīt know if he stays in America, but we know what he does when he comes back. He makes an alliance with 10 other people, appoints them as leaders of the countries they are from or UN spheres, and then destroys and attacks America.
And the woman which thou sawest is that great city which reigneth over the kings of the earth (verse 18).

Remember the term city also means nation. So it can be a literal city, or the chief city inside of a nation, or the nation itself. In this instance itīs back to New York City itself and speaking of the United Nations, which by then, might be in rule over the nations of the earth. Right now itīs a joke. But that could change.

If not, then it would be referring to Washington D.C. the political capitol of Babylon and the governing center of the New World Order.

I donīt think the Scriptures were unclear about who the last days Babylon was going to be. I donīt think you could describe America any better than this. Why wonīt your church leaders tell you? Because they are the Harlots in cahoots with the devil to keep you in the dark or just plain ignorant of what the Bible really says. If you could read over the 100 prophecies describing the end times nation in power and recognize it as America, why canīt they? Get out of the churches and back into Yahweh. The last days churches as signified by the church of Laodicea in Revelation chapter 3 are not of Him. He is seen standing outside the door of them. In other words, HE IS NOT IN THEM.



Any body agree with this?

Just trying to start up another Babel on thread!


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i dont think we have long to go before we know who the beasts are
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Within a few years at most is my call.

Could be sooner could be later?
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Now let me ask you who really owns and controls the USA, Israel does, there you have it folks. Ariel Sharon said so that Israel controls America.
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Correct cheer
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lets guess, an anti semite, if modern israel really controlled the US they wouldnt have pulled out of Siani, Lebanon , and now Gaza and the west bank etc, your reasoning is vapid.
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OKAY. We get the point!!!
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repent america
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Just keep watching more is to follow there. Its not as sweet as you say it is. The west side of Palestine is where the "water" is so guess who gets that! Gaza is all messed up having homes and lives destroyed by Israeli tanks, guns and most likely having depleted uranium poisoning from it perhaps Israel just wants no part of that repair job they had done. They take the easy way out, mess it up and let the Palestinians rebuild what they had destroyed. The Israelis get the water side.
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Very thorough. Answers a lot of my questions. Thanks OP!
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Pleasure

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America is Babble-on. Look at our leader, a babbling idiot.
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Correct hayseed
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Errm, disagree. Will list why shortly.
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Whoever controls the traffic is the boss.

Think...Israel has violated more UN resolutions than any other country and got away with it.

Iraq violated some UN resolutions, too, and got bombed.

Of course, NYC was the major banking center of the world, but that kinda got messed up with the towers brought to the ground. Twin pillars, as it were. No mystery there, so I doubt if NYC was ever thought to be "Mystery Babylon".

Consider the two witnesses who are killed on the streets in Rev. 11:8 "And their bodies shall lie in the streets of the great city which is called spiritually, Sodom and Egypt: where their Lord was also crucified." Jeruselem.

The woman who sits on the beast: Rev. 17:5 "And on her forehead a name was written. A mystery: Babylon the great, the MOTHER of the fornications and abominations of the earth."

This speaks of the Babylonian religion began in the days of Nimrod and is carried on by their successors. NYC has never been known to be the religious capital of the world. Jeruselem is not now known than being anything other than a burdensome stone to the nations.

Rev. 17:15 And the woman which you saw is the great city which has kingdom over the kings of the earth.

Who sits a Queen, who says in Rev. 18:7 "...I sit a Queen and am no widow: and sorrow I shall not see."

From Vatican documents:

Papal Claim to Authority:

#1. "The Pope is of so great dignity and so exalted that he is NOT MERE MAN, but as it were God, and the vicar of God."

#18. "As to papal authority, the Pope is as it were God on earth, Sole sovereign of all the faithful of Christ, CHIEF KING OF KINGS, having a plentitude of UNBROKEN POWER, entrusted by the omnipotent God to govern the earthly and heavenly kingdoms."

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Isaiah said:

1. Babylon would be noted for its architecture, buildings and skyline (Isaiah 13:22)

MY RESPONSE (NOT YELLING JUST DIFFERENTIATING BETWEEN YOUR POSTS AND MINE FOR EASIER READING):
THAT WAS THE FIRST BABYLON. ALTHOUGH I AGREE THAT BEING NOTED FOR ARCHITECTURE COULD BE THE SAME IN ALL THE BEAST KINGDOMS DOWN THROUGH HISTORY, THIS VERSE IS SPECIFICALLY RELATING TO THE BABYLON OF THEIR TIME. ALSO, ROME DEFINITELY IS NOTED FOR ITS ARCHITECTURE, BOTH PAGAN ROME AND HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE.

2. Is the lone super power of the world (Isaiah 47:5,8)

AGAIN, THIS IS REFERRING TO BABYLON OF THEIR TIME, NOT OF OUR TIME. AND EVEN IF IT WERE REFERRING TO OUR TIME, THERE ARE MANY MANY CHRISTIANS AND OTHERS HERE IN THE USA WHO DONīT GO ALONG WITH BABYLONIAN IDEALS OR RELIGION. THE USA IS NOT THE LONE SUPER OF THE WORLD AND THE VERSE DOES NOT REFER TO A SUPER POWER. THATīS YOUR ADDITION SO THAT YOU CAN FIT THE VERSES WITH END TIMES BUT OUT OF LACK OF KNOWLEDGE OF THE REAL SITUATION.

3. Is the most respected and envied around the world and yet at the same time is hated by the world. (Isaiah 18:2)

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY PLACES THIS CAN REFER TO? ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE FACT, THESE VERSES ARE ABOUT THE KINGDOMS OF THEIR TIME, NOT OUR TIME.

4. Has a unique and remarkable beginning, different from other nations and has been awe-inspiring from itīs conception. (Isaiah 18:2).

SO BEING FOUNDED BY ONE OF A PAIR OF HYBRID OFFSPRING (ROMULUS AND REMUS) DOESNīT COUNT AS REMARKABLE AND UNIQUE? AND OF COURSE, ROME HASNīT BEEN AWE INSPIRING SINCE ITīS INCEPTION. WHAT WAS I THINKING... ;)

5. Babylon would the QUEEN AMONG THE NATIONS (Isa 47:5,7)

SO AMERICANS ARE DAUGHTERS OF THE CHALDEANS? THATīS NEWS TO ME. CHECKING YOUR FACTS WOULD BE USEFUL IF YOU WISH TO INTERPRET PROPHECY.

6. Babylon would be an END TIME GREAT NATION (Rev 17,18; Isa 13:6)

BABYLON THE GREAT IN 17 AND 18 IS ABOUT A SPIRITUAL POWER - A RELIGION. PLEASE ARRANGE THE BEASTS IN THEIR PROPER ORDER AND LEARN. THE BEAST OF 17 IS MISSING ITS CROWNS. IT HAS NO WORLDY POWER OTHER THAN HOW IT PERTAINS TO RELIGION, A FALSE RELIGION, THAT FOLLOWS THE OLD BABYLONIAN SYSTEM OF WORSHIP OF THE QUEEN OF HEAVEN. THUSLY WHY IT IS A WHORE. NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY WE SHOULD WORSHIP THE QUEEN OF HEAVEN, NO MATTER WHO SHE IS.

7. Babylon is called a lady, and has the symbol of the Lady (Isa 47:7-9). "LIBERTY" on our money, and sits in the New York Harbor.

YES, HOWEVER, THAT WAS REFERRING TO THE BABYLON OF THEIR TIME. THE WORSHIP OF THE QUEEN OF HEAVEN. THEREīS NOTHING SINFUL ABOUT LIBERTY. GOD MADE YOU WITH A FREE WILL. HE WOULD NOT ACCEPT THE OBEISANCE OF ANYONE WHO DIDNīT ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN HIM, AND FORCING PEOPLE TO FOLLOW A RELIGION IS THE ANTI-THESIS OF WHAT HE WANTS FROM US. DO SOME STUDY ON ANCIENT BABYLONIAN RELIGIOUS PRACTICES. COMPARE AND CONTRAST TO ANCIENT ROME, PAGAN AND "HOLY."

8. Babylon is nation "peeled", or timbered, a land of open fields (Isa 18:2).

Y0UīD THINK NO ONE TRAVELLED IN SHIPS OR HAD ANYTHING OF VALUE EVER, BEFORE THE US! AMONG OTHER THINGS, YOUR BEAST IS INCORRECTLY FITTED OUT TO AGREE WITH THE STATUE OF NEBUCHADNEZZAR WHICH WAS THE ROLE MODEL FOR ALL THE FOLLOWING BABYLONIAN KINGDOMS, IN SUCCESSION, WITHOUT A HOP SKIP OR JUMP IN THE TIMELINE. THEREīS NO PROVISION IN IT FOR AMERICA.

9. Babylon is land quartered by mighty rivers (Isa 18:2).

STUDY IRAQ AND GET BACK TO ME.

10. Babylon is a land that is measured out, and populated throughout (Isa 18:2).

THEREīS MORE VACANT LAND IN THE USA THAN IN IRAQ OR ITALY FOR THAT MATTER.

11. Babylon destroys her own land, with pollution and waste (Isa 14:20, 18:2, 7).

WELL THAT NEVER HAPPENS ANYWHERE ELSE ON THE PLANET....EVER...IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD. READ THE MAHABARATA. THEY NUKED EACH OTHER TO DEATH. THEREīS ALOT OF EXAMPLES OF BABYLONIAN KINGDOMS SCREWING UP THE LANDSCAPE BUT THE USA DOESNīT EVEN MAKE IT ON THE STATUE. WRONG TIME FRAME, COMPLETELY.

12. Babylon is the leading INDUSTRIAL NATION OF THE WORLD

SCRIPTURE?

13. Babylon has a huge aviation program (Isa 14:13-14;

WAS THIS NOT THE PROBLEM OF BABYLON IN THEIR TIME? ITīS LEADERS BELIEVED THEY WERE GODS ON EARTH. WOO, THAT SOUNDS FAMILAR. WHO THOUGHT THAT IN THE DAYS OF THE EMPIRES? THE CASEARS, PERHAPS? WHO TO THIS DAY, ARE IN THE GUISE OF THE POPES? YOU REALIZE A POPE GLEANS A BIGGER TURNOUT, MORE ADULATION AND WORSHIP THAN ANY AMERICAN PRESIDENT COULD EVER HOPE FOR. WHILE YOUīRE TILTING WINDMILSS THE REAL BEASTS ARE GROWING STRONGER AND STRONGER (AGAIN).

14. Babylon is a REPUBLIC or a DEMOCRACY, it is ruled by many counsels (Isa 47:13).

SO IS ROME, SO IS EUROPE. SO WERE THE WORLD EMPIRES OF NEBUCHADNEZZARīS STATUE.

15. Babylonīs governmental system breaks down (Isa 47:13).

MOST OF CHRISTIAN AMERICA DOES NOT BELIEVE IN ASTROLOGY OR FORTUNE-TELLERS. THIS WAS FOR THE TIME OF THE PAGAN EMPIRES OF NEBUCHADNEZZARīS STATUE. THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE ONLY MARGINALLY ACCEPTED IT.

16. Babylon is bogged down with deliberations and cannot govern properly (Isa 47:13).

LOL NAME A COUNTRY THAT DOESNīT HAVE THIS PROBLEM. BUT ANYWAY, IF THESE VERSES WERE REFERRING TO ANYTHING ITīD BE THOSE EMPIRES OF NEBUCHADNEZZARīS STATUE. IF YOU THINK YOUīRE SO SMART, GO TO [link to RAWA.ORG] AND READ UP ON THE STATE OF AFGHANISTAN AT ANY POINT IN TIME. EVER. IN THEIR HISTORY.

17. Babylonīs leaders use astrology, seers and mystics for guidance (Isa 47:13; Rev 18:2).

YEP, THEY SURE DID. AND PRETTY MUCH EVERY NATION ON THE PLANET HAS THIS IN THEIR HISTORY SOMEWHERE BECAUSE NOT ALL NATIONS ALWAYS HAVE BELIEVERS LEADING THEM.

18. Babylon labored in the occult from her very inception (Isa 47:12).

THIS FITS ANCIENT BABYLON TO THE "T". IT ALSO FITS THE GRECIAN AND PAGAN ROMAN EMPIRES. LOOK UP THE WORD "PEDERASTY" AND GET BACK TO ME. VESTAL VIRGINS. I AM NOT DENYING THAT SOME OF OUR LEADERS HAVE BEEN BAD, WHAT IīM DENYING IS THAT WE FIT ON NEBUCHADNEZZARīS STATUE. WE DONīT. PLEASE LEARN THE PROPHECIES IN THEIR CORRECT ORDER.

19. Babylon is a nation of religious confusion (Isa 47:12-13).

SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU BELIEVE THAT ALL OTHER NATIONS FOR THE HISTORY OF THE EARTH WERE LESS RELIGIOUSLY CONFUSED THAN AMERICA? YOU REALIZE WHERE THE CONFUSION COMES IN IS NOT DIVERSITY BUT RATHER PEOPLE WHO ARE SEEKING AND BEING TOLD THINGS LIKE, PRAY 20 HAIL MARYS FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF SIN, AS IF MARY COULD FORGIVE HER OWN SINS MUCH LESS ANYONE ELSEīS. EVEN SO, THESE VERSES ARE REFERRING TO BABYLON OF THEIR TIME AND MOST LIKELY NOT EVEN REFERRING TO BABYLON OF THE GRECIAN AND ROMAN EMPIRES.

20. THE KING OF BABYLON is called LUCIFER, the ANTICHRIST (Isa 14:4-6).

WE DONīT HAVE A GOLDEN CITY. NEVER HAVE. THESE WERE PEOPLE WHO FLAUNTED THEIR GOLD WEALTH ON THEIR BUILDINGS, NOT HIDDEN IN SAFE DEPOSIT BOXES OR FORTS, BUT GOLD ENCRUSTED BUILDINGS. WHEN BAGHDAD WAS OVERTHROWN THEY FOUND THE INSIDE OF SADDAMīS PALACE WALLS WERE COVERED IN GOLD.

21. The King of Babylon will rule from THE GREAT CITY BABYLON (Isa 14:4-6; Rev 17: 18).

THE GREAT CITY IS A RELIGIOUS CENTER.
R E L I G I O U S. ITīS ROME.

22. A world government entity will rise up to rule the world from BABYLON THE CITY

AND SO IT DID. THRU 2 CONSECUTIVE EMPIRES. THE SECOND ONE, THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE, RECEIVED A WOUND TO ITS POLITICAL HEAD, BUT IT CONTINUED TO SURVIVE. ITīS NOW PURELY A RELIGIOUS EMPIRE, BUT IT STILL THRIVES. IT WAS, IT IS NOT, AND YET IS. IT JUST CHANGED ITS POSTURE. PLEASE KEEP THE BABYLONS IN ORDER. FIRST BABYLON, THEN MEDO-PERSIAN, THEN GRECIAN, THEN ROMAN, THEN HOLY ROMAN. THATīS IT. NOTHING AFTERWARDS, BECAUSE THE FINAL ONE, THE HOLY ROMAN, IS NOT GONE! ONLY WOUNDED!

REMEMBER THE BODY PARTS OF THE STATUE MUST STAY CONSECUTIVE IN THE TIMELINE. THEY CANīT SKIP OVER EMPIRES. EACH FOLLOWS THE ONE BEFORE IT.
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(my post was in caps for easier differentiation between his comments and my responses)
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Hereīs some things to think about:

The "Statue of Liberty" = goddess worship. Thereīs of course statues (idols) all over the arcitechture of DC, including the top of the capitol.

Take other things like the layout of the streets in Washington, forming a pentagram. Or Molech.

Or, the back of the dollar bill. Something that always amazes me are the people who saw, īwhen are they going to take in God We Trustī off of the money?

On the back of the dollar bill, along the top, in Latin, it reads īannouncing the birth ofī and the bottom says īnew secular orderī

Secular means īof the worldī. How can you say īin God We Trustī on the top of the money, but īnew secular orderī on the left side?

Itīs because the god that is being worshipped isnīt the Lord Yahweh.

The other thing that I find interesting about this whole debate is the people that say Babylon will be rebuilt in the first 3 1/2 years of the Tribulation.

What Bible is that from? The Tribulation starts right after the letters to the churches when the seals are broken.

It sounds to me like people will have other things on their mind when Babylon is supposedly being rebuilt.

Just some things to ponder.

In Christ,

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642,

I donīt know of anyone that thinks Babylon will be rebuilt. Thatīs some kind of middle eastern urban legend. Babylon was never gone. Itīs still right where we last noticed it in our history and books of religion: Rome. It has just received a wound to its political head, and as a result has only thrived publically, as a religious empire, ruling religious people. Yet, it still exists and has world wide influence in all matters. It has secret societies and criminals that do its dirty work in the guise of the syndicate, the mob and the mafia. It hasnīt fallen down. It hasnīt been destroyed. It just backed off to keep the natives from trampling it to death and stealing all its wealth. It was, it is not, and yet it is. And itīs deadly wound will be healed.

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