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Maybe if I brought it to the light then states would start to rethink these rules.

This may only be true in some states and not all of them, but I suggest if you would like to start changing it that you check out your state's welfare office rules and regulations.

It is all very simple actually. You don't work for 6 months. Then you sign up for Social Security. Then you sign up for welfare. Then you sign up for housing in your city. It could take awhile to get into a place. The problem here is that a lot of states have this rule for welfare where if you have applied for Social Security then they can not force you to get a job.

What happens when Social Security says you are not disabled? Well, first you do a reconsideration. (That takes up to 8 weeks to complete.) If they deny that then you go on to a Hearing...which can take up to 2 years to get a hearing date. After they deny that you go to an Appeals Council. Another 12 to 36 months to do that. And finally off to the Federal Court. Probably another year or so.

So, if your really NOT disabled and you stop after the hearing part and start all over again, you will be forever in the system, getting free housing, medical, food and money along the way.

How exactly do I know this? My neighbor does it. She lets the whole thing go through to a certain point and then just starts a whole new claim, but it allows her to stay on welfare forever, since the state can not force someone who is applying for Social Security to get a job.

I also know it because I had the same thing happen to me. The difference being that I got approved for social security after the very first reconsideration. (And I only had the reconsideration cause I didn't show up the first time for my psych meeting.) I actually moved to a new state in between and the new state said that I had to get a job. Once I filled for the reconsideration, they were not allowed to force me to get a job.

There is a huge difference between being disabled and getting social security and not being disabled and just using the system to your advantage. I think that if people apply for a reconsideration and get denied, people should have to go to the next level (Hearing) and if that is denied , the next level (Appeals Council) and if that is denied to the Federal Courts. And if the Federal Courts say you are not disabled, they can not apply again unless their medical history drastically changes. The problem is that they say that if you are denied for Social Security in the hearing phase that you can continue that claim to the next level and start a whole new claim!!

And I thought that the people living off welfare that have a dozen children is worse....not anymore. At least the government is supporting children. This though, is crazy.
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Why am I not at all surprised... not even a little.

I guess maybe I should start to look for ways to get paid to do nothing too... so I can just go cave diving all the time and not have to bother with that stupid "work" thing.

Hummmmmmmmm


I have never received anything from the govt (except the pleasure of them stealing from me) so now maybe I should rethink my approach... I am if everyone else is... shit... why not. It will just help the entire corrupt thing go to shit all that much quicker.
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You mean disability?

Maybe if I brought it to the light then states would start to rethink these rules.

This may only be true in some states and not all of them, but I suggest if you would like to start changing it that you check out your state's welfare office rules and regulations.

It is all very simple actually. You don't work for 6 months. Then you sign up for Social Security. Then you sign up for welfare. Then you sign up for housing in your city. It could take awhile to get into a place. The problem here is that a lot of states have this rule for welfare where if you have applied for Social Security then they can not force you to get a job.

What happens when Social Security says you are not disabled? Well, first you do a reconsideration. (That takes up to 8 weeks to complete.) If they deny that then you go on to a Hearing...which can take up to 2 years to get a hearing date. After they deny that you go to an Appeals Council. Another 12 to 36 months to do that. And finally off to the Federal Court. Probably another year or so.

So, if your really NOT disabled and you stop after the hearing part and start all over again, you will be forever in the system, getting free housing, medical, food and money along the way.

How exactly do I know this? My neighbor does it. She lets the whole thing go through to a certain point and then just starts a whole new claim, but it allows her to stay on welfare forever, since the state can not force someone who is applying for Social Security to get a job.

I also know it because I had the same thing happen to me. The difference being that I got approved for social security after the very first reconsideration. (And I only had the reconsideration cause I didn't show up the first time for my psych meeting.) I actually moved to a new state in between and the new state said that I had to get a job. Once I filled for the reconsideration, they were not allowed to force me to get a job.

There is a huge difference between being disabled and getting social security and not being disabled and just using the system to your advantage. I think that if people apply for a reconsideration and get denied, people should have to go to the next level (Hearing) and if that is denied , the next level (Appeals Council) and if that is denied to the Federal Courts. And if the Federal Courts say you are not disabled, they can not apply again unless their medical history drastically changes. The problem is that they say that if you are denied for Social Security in the hearing phase that you can continue that claim to the next level and start a whole new claim!!

And I thought that the people living off welfare that have a dozen children is worse....not anymore. At least the government is supporting children. This though, is crazy.
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Why the fuck do ppl want to leach the system smh. Here's an. Idea.....WORK
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Maybe if I brought it to the light then states would start to rethink these rules.

This may only be true in some states and not all of them, but I suggest if you would like to start changing it that you check out your state's welfare office rules and regulations.

It is all very simple actually. You don't work for 6 months. Then you sign up for Social Security. Then you sign up for welfare. Then you sign up for housing in your city. It could take awhile to get into a place. The problem here is that a lot of states have this rule for welfare where if you have applied for Social Security then they can not force you to get a job.

What happens when Social Security says you are not disabled? Well, first you do a reconsideration. (That takes up to 8 weeks to complete.) If they deny that then you go on to a Hearing...which can take up to 2 years to get a hearing date. After they deny that you go to an Appeals Council. Another 12 to 36 months to do that. And finally off to the Federal Court. Probably another year or so.

So, if your really NOT disabled and you stop after the hearing part and start all over again, you will be forever in the system, getting free housing, medical, food and money along the way.

How exactly do I know this? My neighbor does it. She lets the whole thing go through to a certain point and then just starts a whole new claim, but it allows her to stay on welfare forever, since the state can not force someone who is applying for Social Security to get a job.

I also know it because I had the same thing happen to me. The difference being that I got approved for social security after the very first reconsideration. (And I only had the reconsideration cause I didn't show up the first time for my psych meeting.) I actually moved to a new state in between and the new state said that I had to get a job. Once I filled for the reconsideration, they were not allowed to force me to get a job.

There is a huge difference between being disabled and getting social security and not being disabled and just using the system to your advantage. I think that if people apply for a reconsideration and get denied, people should have to go to the next level (Hearing) and if that is denied , the next level (Appeals Council) and if that is denied to the Federal Courts. And if the Federal Courts say you are not disabled, they can not apply again unless their medical history drastically changes. The problem is that they say that if you are denied for Social Security in the hearing phase that you can continue that claim to the next level and start a whole new claim!!

And I thought that the people living off welfare that have a dozen children is worse....not anymore. At least the government is supporting children. This though, is crazy.
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You lazy fucking slob. It's people like you who are responsible for the shit pile this country is in.
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Socialism leads to total depravity.
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so ye did this?
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But would anyone actually want to live in government housing?


There is something wrong with a person who is proud of leeching.
Personal responsibility - try it sometime. Quit blaming others for your bad choices. Consequences happen.

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I'm stealing this from Brief and to the Point. But I don't think he will mind.


What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

Personal responsibility - try it sometime. Quit blaming others for your bad choices. Consequences happen.

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please re read op's last 4 words. she says it is crazy.
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I'm stealing this from Brief and to the Point. But I don't think he will mind.


What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

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somehow I do not think he will mind
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please re read op's last 4 words. she says it is crazy.
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Yeah. I saw it and agree with her.

I'm not dissing her.
I'm dissing leaches.
Personal responsibility - try it sometime. Quit blaming others for your bad choices. Consequences happen.

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how do you live while waiting for disability? who can live on $1000? until you get section8
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How to live off the government - without having a ton of children (Or even one child!)


become a politician
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The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

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Az3 I've always tried to follow the example set by Howard Hughes (though not 100% successfully) of paying no income tax whatsoever.
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But would anyone actually want to live in government housing?


There is something wrong with a person who is proud of leeching.
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She lives in a house that is through Public Housing.

And remember I own my house. I pay my property taxes every year. I was found disabled after one reconsideration. (30% of people are approved on their first main claim, another 20% after the first consideration.) I am talking about people who are NOT disabled and continue to just use the Social Security system to get freebies from the state's welfare.
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Wow, this is great, thanks for this information.

I encourage everyone to do this.
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We should go back to the era before the "New Deal" - survival of the fittest and community help... ANY sort of program is pure WELFARE...
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Oh no... WELFARE! People FARING WELL! How horrible!!!!!

We absolutely must stamp out all WELL-BEING in the world and replace it with ENDLESS SLAVE LABOR. WORK, WORK, WORK!

And we must LOVE our slavery and HATE those who find a way to become free!
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Why the fuck do ppl want to leach the system smh. Here's an. Idea.....WORK
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+10,000

Sorry OP, but I guarantee I'm a lot worse off than you healthwise, and I still found a niche, turn a nice profit, and never once asked for a damned thing from this government.
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I'm stealing this from Brief and to the Point. But I don't think he will mind.


What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

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What's truly funny, is that

you will 'diss leaches' (lolsplelnigwut) for taking a few hundred dollars per month to live

while simultaneously paying your taxes (which is well over half of your income btw) and saying nothing about that, even though ALL of your tax money only goes to paying rent fees in the form of interest for use of a monopolized and privatized fiat DEBT currency.

Why use money to help people enjoy life when we can allow it to suck the life out of us because we are too goddamn ignorant and apathetic to do anything about it?!?!?!?

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Educate your self, really.

Why do we even bother building societal systems IF NOT TO MAKE OUR LIVES EASIER AND MORE ENJOYABLE???

How is more people living on/through the system NOT A SIGN OF SOCIETAL PROGRESSION???

Go back to the south pole already, the nazi base there would take you in immediately I'm sure.
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I'm stealing this from Brief and to the Point. But I don't think he will mind.


What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.



What's truly funny, is that

you will 'diss leaches' (lolsplelnigwut) for taking a few hundred dollars per month to live

while simultaneously paying your taxes (which is well over half of your income btw) and saying nothing about that, even though ALL of your tax money only goes to paying rent fees in the form of interest for use of a monopolized and privatized fiat DEBT currency.

Why use money to help people enjoy life when we can allow it to suck the life out of us because we are too goddamn ignorant and apathetic to do anything about it?!?!?!?

[link to www.youtube.com]

Educate your self, really.

Why do we even bother building societal systems IF NOT TO MAKE OUR LIVES EASIER AND MORE ENJOYABLE???

How is more people living on/through the system NOT A SIGN OF SOCIETAL PROGRESSION???

Go back to the south pole already, the nazi base there would take you in immediately I'm sure.
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+1,000,000,000,000,000
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how do you live while waiting for disability? who can live on $1000? until you get section8
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Don't fail at life and you'll find that living on 600 is actually more than enough...
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Why the fuck do ppl want to leach the system smh. Here's an. Idea.....WORK


+10,000

Sorry OP, but I guarantee I'm a lot worse off than you healthwise, and I still found a niche, turn a nice profit, and never once asked for a damned thing from this government.
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Here's an idea:

MOST WORK IS FOR IDIOTS WHO DON'T CARE WHAT THEY DO AS LONG AS THEY ARE PAID FOR THEIR PROSITUTION ER I MEAN SERVICE SO THEY CAN ENJOY THEIR OWN TIME FOR THEMSELVES WITH THEIR MONEY AND WHO CARES ABOUT THE REST OF THE WORLD AROUND THEM RIGHT?
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Why the fuck do ppl want to leach the system smh. Here's an. Idea.....WORK


+10,000

Sorry OP, but I guarantee I'm a lot worse off than you healthwise, and I still found a niche, turn a nice profit, and never once asked for a damned thing from this government.


Here's an idea:

MOST WORK IS FOR IDIOTS WHO DON'T CARE WHAT THEY DO AS LONG AS THEY ARE PAID FOR THEIR PROSITUTION ER I MEAN SERVICE SO THEY CAN ENJOY THEIR OWN TIME FOR THEMSELVES WITH THEIR MONEY AND WHO CARES ABOUT THE REST OF THE WORLD AROUND THEM RIGHT?
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OMG... I love you. Are you female? I don't care. Let's find a way to have children.

Canada FTW.

Work is the plague of the human race and should be abolished ASAP. All respect to welfare scroungers, who are doing the whole world a valuable service and leading by example.
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living off the government you are in bondage to the government...
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There will always be work in the form of upkeep and development but the fact is that right now, most work being done is not only upkeep that would not be at all needed if we implimented certain 'advanced technologies', it is upkeep of upkeep, and mathematically designed to fail as it is now.

Young people aren't going to stand for inheritting a pile of garbage without burning it and starting over as much as needed.

Not like we have much of a choice with what our planet is going through.

Wake up or wake out.
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how do you live while waiting for disability? who can live on $1000? until you get section8


Don't fail at life and you'll find that living on 600 is actually more than enough...
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But who can afford to eat out twice a day, and go out to the clubs to pick up girls at least every couple weeks, and buy drugs and video games and music and anything else to keep the mind busy and out of 'real life', and otherwise buy anything and everything as long as we don't have to do any real work for our self,

who can afford that on 1000?

Not taking care of your self is failing your self,

not being able to care of your self is failing at life.

Most people that don't work have realized that it is much easier to SERVE PEOPLE'S HIGHEST INTEREST when we're not wasting so much time serving our own egotistical financial DESIRES. No one needs money, it is only a convenience to acquiring things you actually do need.

If only the sheeple would wake up enough to not keep giving their wool to the master who uses it to produce the rope which binds them to their ignorance.
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Why the fuck do ppl want to leach the system smh. Here's an. Idea.....WORK


+10,000

Sorry OP, but I guarantee I'm a lot worse off than you healthwise, and I still found a niche, turn a nice profit, and never once asked for a damned thing from this government.


Here's an idea:

MOST WORK IS FOR IDIOTS WHO DON'T CARE WHAT THEY DO AS LONG AS THEY ARE PAID FOR THEIR PROSITUTION ER I MEAN SERVICE SO THEY CAN ENJOY THEIR OWN TIME FOR THEMSELVES WITH THEIR MONEY AND WHO CARES ABOUT THE REST OF THE WORLD AROUND THEM RIGHT?



OMG... I love you. Are you female? I don't care. Let's find a way to have children.

Canada FTW.

Work is the plague of the human race and should be abolished ASAP. All respect to welfare scroungers, who are doing the whole world a valuable service and leading by example.
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You go right ahead and not work, so long as you don't take any money from me or my taxes, it will be fine. Good luck with that. whatever
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why can't most of working class people just accept that we are ALL slaves to the system.
Welfare or no welfare. hard working or non hard working.
slaves slaves slaves all the same.

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