Why are GERMANS so ARROGANT and disposed to violence?

All things considered, I'd rather see America siding with Germany than against it. It's one of the oddest things in history that modern Germany ended up opposed to the Anglosphere, and historians have easily imagined things going very differently.

Had Germany been a little more circumspect about their naval ambitions, a traditional link between the Prussian and English crowns could have been the basis for an alliance that would have seen the prevention of the rise of the Communists in Russia, most likely, a continuation of Victorian imperialism much deeper into the 20th Century, and probably prevented the major wars from happening.

Most Germans, Brits, and Americans get along well even to today, and even the most hated of the Germans, Hitler, said he envisioned their three civilizations would endure in any scenario, which was probably one reason Dunkirk was allowed to happen, when the Luftwaffe could have mowed down the BEF. It's interesting in that light to imagine Britain without Churchill, which might have just let France go, which could have developed then under Petain.

You would have an autocratic Europe driven by the German economy. Or, leaving out the nasty parts that are relevant but not the foundation, what is emerging some 70 years later anyway.

If modern Europe succeeds in becoming stronger, it will be because of Germany, not in spite of it.

Last Edited by Cabin Dweller on 02/09/2012 08:51 PM

Adding to Double Zero

Anglosphere didn't want another competitor on the global scene and they recognized that united Germany will be a serious threat to their domination.

Russia was another threat and when Germany attacked Russia, the Anglosphere was very happy with this development. Then exhausted Germany was attacked by America and it was crushed. With Germany under control with american bases established in the country, Russia became the new devil.

I'm not at all defending Russia, I know it was very evil, especially soviet times. I'm just saying it's always the victor who writes the history. Had Germans won, I'm sure everyone would've remebered Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin as the worst psychopaths in history.

We have built the Moon.

germans believe they are superior

they strive to be efficient in all they do, to that effect.

Riight... like when the fought the entire world? I'd say they have done a damn good job of fighting.

i prefer the individualist americans far over the collectivist euros, im pro gun, pro free speech, pro unrestricted internet etc, but cursed to live in this collectivist continent, the birthplace of communism, nazism, socialism and fascism, all of them similiar, communism and nazism extreme collectivism, socialism and fascism milder variants of tyrannical collectivism, only difference in between these ideologies in practice is the nazi/fascist ideal citisen have fairer hair and skin than the communist/socialist ideal citizen. If i lived in america, i'd vote Ron Paul, have 20 assault and battle rifles in my basement and grow my own food. Americans are free and independent, euros and germans are controlled and dependent. Im all for people being left alone and Im glad the americans won over the german controlfreaks.

But interesting view from the german here, speaking about germans and jewish people running the world. I havent thought about it that way before. Notice how royal families and powerful people tend to come from germany, either jewish or germanic. The rockefellers are german, rothschilds are german jewish. Germany during ww1 was very PRO jewish. ww2 supposedly the opposite, but thanks to it the jewish people got israel.

^^^^+100000 stars from a German Fellow

its about following orders and marching in line, but you see much the same mindset in the far east.

the american idea of sovereign citizen, following no orders but their own, is unique. Hope USA doesnt get screwed up by the rockefeller/rothschilds and the foreign banks that have hijacked their country now.

I must laugh so hard about this, it really hurts ...

You have no clue about individualism, this can e.g. be seen at the fact your country has only two political parties.

You are all gregarious animals who want to be part of the one large group your societey consist, while all others are outsiders.

Americans and individualists, hahaha, what a great joke.

we don't believe it - we are superior

sorry, but i think u should get out of your basement and have a real look over to America... the American People nowadays are far away from being free and independent. This was probably true 25 years ago but not anymore...

Yes. I agree.

Why are Americans so fat and violent?

Before you shout out your assumptions, im norwegian, my country supposedly have 7 parties in the "congress" but their all the same, just like in your beloved germany. I guess NPD atleast, are a bit different even though they dont think like i do, but they are trying hard to ban them. It didnt work last time, because it leaked out 1 in 5 in the NPD's leadership worked for the secret police.

The same totalitarian system are all over europe.

I know its gone the wrong way there... But their still free compared to euros and the mindset is still alive.

this is even a better laugh: "the american idea of sovereign citizen, following no orders but their own, is unique"
ok, you do me a favor... take a flight over to the States, rent a car and speed just a little bit so you get pulled over by the friendly highway trooper. If he approaches your car and asks you for your registration and license you please smile to him and tell him that you are a sovereign citizen and you are following no orders but your own.... then see what happens and think about your nonsense comments again!

Best description of how Euro life is now. Here as well.

Im fully aware america is turning into a police state, just like the rest of the world. Im talking about the mindset, america evolves around individualism, while europe evolves around collectivim.

And do the same in norway where i live, they will take your drivers liscence and throw you in jail, + fine you for a month sallary if your 30 km/h or more over the limit.

Why do you leave out knife murders etc?

Norways crimerate are 2x as high as americans, if you include theft, rapes, robberies, vandalism etc, and we're supposed to be one of the safest in europe (in english, use translator):

[link to www.stavangeravisen.no]

Crime in america mainly happens in the ghettos. Poverty and drug policies are behind americas crime, and crime depends on where you live.

In my next life, hopefully, my father won't be German.

What a tyrant - violent, angry, arrogant, argumentative, aggressive ,egotistical, treats women like sh*t, and yet, a very successful businessman - ran his business like clockwork - very good product - and yet, everyone to this day(including his family) avoid him like the plague. I'm talking the epitome of a Nazi.

He always complains about the jewish people - I'm beginning to think these two tribes (German/jewish people) have been going at it for eons. They actually deserve each other IMO.

Somebody seriously screwed with these folks' DNA - both the Germans and the jewish people - and it's NOT working out for the 'betterment of humankind' in the long run.

I don't care if the Germans got the US to the moon - think of the millions of concentration camp folks they slaughtered for their scientific experiments and the building of their V1 and V2 rockets.

Makes you think - OMFG. Now add to the list the aggressive Americans now killing millions of people in undeclared wars.

Seriously? WTF is wrong with this place?

I dont think americans as a people want these wars, they know its bankrupting them, but their leaders do it anyway. They voted obama to end it. Their leaders are corrupt and represent the corporate interests rather than the people. Like germany, britain, norway, sweden etc aswell. Difference is, in USA they dont have the level of social control they have in europe, here we're more afraid to speak and think different, so in america they need to get their agenda trough by flat out lying and secrecy.

...and obama proved to be an even bigger asshole than bush with even worse legislation like NDAA etc, difference is obama is a better liar...

Americans need to get behind ron paul, get in delegates, even if he doesnt win it will send a signal to the establishment, the other "candidates" are completely irrelevant.. You need to vote in people that want to uphold their consitution, build down the federal power in favour of more power on the local state level, and try to get direct democracy like they have in switzerland, legalize marijuana, stop water and monsanto food poisoning, stop drones and mass surveillance etc from being enforced and legalize alternative currencies. Also be independent and armed yourself. It can all be done on local levels, it doesnt all rest on ron paul.

Excuse me AC...no harm meant...I hope you are just taking a "ironical ride"...yes?


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Wer anderen eine Grube gräbt ist hilfsbereit.
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Wenn man von tuten und blasen keine Ahnung hat, sollte man die Suppe selbst auslöffeln.
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Had you well!
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The apple does not fall far from the tree.
He who digs a pit for others is helpful.
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On foot it is shorter than on the mountain.
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I SAID, VEE VONT GO DER RIGHT NOW, DAMN IT!!

Oh, sorry, didn't see it at first.

Unverantwortungsbewusstlosigkeit

Unverantwortung - irresponsibility
Bewusstlosigkeit - unconsciousness

WTF is this? Irresponsible-lack-of-awareness?