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Cold Fusion is heating up: The Holy Grail of Energy?

 
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Cold Fusion is heating up: The Holy Grail of Energy?
Cold Fusion getting hot with 10kw heater prepping for market

Italian inventor, Andrea Rossi, claims to have an industrial product ready to manufacture that produces large amounts of energy reliably, safely, and much cheaper than coal or natural gas power. It utilizes the fusion of hydrogen and the common element nickel at relatively low temperatures.

[link to pesn.com]
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Nice !

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Cold fusion has been a reality for years now.. Imagine 1 gallon of sea water giving the same energy as 16 gallons of gasoline..
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After a read, that is worth a bump for sure.

bump
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this is what we need to change the world... a breakthrough in energy production.


we need to make oil obsolete in terms of transportation/energy
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free or not?
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People have been claiming cold temp fusion for years and years. All were hoaxes.


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slightly disappointing to see that there's no flux capacitor..
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Re: Cold Fusion is heating up: The Holy Grail of Energy?
Cold Fusion getting hot with 10kw heater prepping for market

Italian inventor, Andrea Rossi, claims to have an industrial product ready to manufacture that produces large amounts of energy reliably, safely, and much cheaper than coal or natural gas power. It utilizes the fusion of hydrogen and the common element nickel at relatively low temperatures.

[link to pesn.com]
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Did you steal my Mr. Fusion off the back of the DeLorean?

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What's so cool about this technology is that it is NOT a prototype, but is apparently a product that is about to go into production.

This deserves a PIN
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People have been claiming cold temp fusion for years and years. All were hoaxes.


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This one will turn out to be a failure as well.

At best, they're producing heat from a thermal reaction, not a nuclear one. That's why they're not letting any other scientists examine it.
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This is the real deal folks.
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People have been claiming cold temp fusion for years and years. All were hoaxes.


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This one will turn out to be a failure as well.

At best, they're producing heat from a thermal reaction, not a nuclear one. That's why they're not letting any other scientists examine it.
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This is not a thermal reaction.

They are detecting radiation.

The system works by producing radiation in the cell that generates heat in the shielding which boils water.
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Cold fusion has been a reality for years now.. Imagine 1 gallon of sea water giving the same energy as 16 gallons of gasoline..
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Not quite.

A number of reputable labs worldwide have gotten good results from cold fusion (including SRI as I recall) ... but then can't repeat their own experiments so as to get the same consistently repeatable results, the energy output ends up all over the ballpark, which has left them scratching their heads.

There was a excellent summary of the reputable work written for the layperson in either Newsweek or the NY Times back about two years ago as I recall, plus 60 miutes did a segment on it back about the same time which interviewed some of the top Phd's around the world working on it.

Just because the CURRENT theories of science can't explain it doesn't mean that all those reputable researchers are wrong in what they are seeing ... after all for many many years the TOP scientists in the world claimed that the sun revolved around the earth, and even as late as 1990 that ulcers were NOT in any way related to bacteria in the gut ...
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Always the same bullshit with theses ppl. When asked to have a independent lab verify his findings.

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Before me Ilaria Venturi Republic.I asked Rossi if he would be willing to put the equipment available to an independent laboratory for a complete examination. The answer was negative. Rossi explained that work on behalf of a company (the one that will produce in the reactor series), which has made massive investments to get the result shown today. Therefore, the "black box" will not be opened because it would give away a trade secret.


The reactor itself conceals a secret, can not be reconstructed by anyone based on general knowledge of the principle of cold fusion or the papers of the patent.
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Re: Cold Fusion is heating up: The Holy Grail of Energy?
This is the real deal!

This technology has been verified by third parties in the past including LTI, the DOD, and the DOE.

It is not a hoax.

This could be the energy breakthrough we have been waiting on!

Check this out.....

Our standard module consumes 500 watts and yields constantly and with absolute reliability, with no risks that radiations exit the reactor and with no risks of explosion, 4 kW. We obtained much higher efficiencies, as you can read on the Focardi-Rossi paper published on the Journal Of Nuclear Physics, but now I had to find a compromise to manufacture power plants with absolute reliability under the point of view of safety. The excess of energy follows a K= 8 at the moment. We reached a K 400, but we got explosions. I can get risks when I amk alone, but to sell a reliable product I have to go down to 8, right now. We are manufacturing a 1 MW plant made with 125 modules.
With 1 g of Ni I got 750 kW.
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Someone should tell Iran.
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this technology is so misunderstood.....

takes time to build up the thermal reaction, about a month. The only real commercial application for this is hot water heaters. They are supplemented with electricity or natural gas, but if fully implemented can save a shitload of energy required to heat water.
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Don't forget to buy the shares up! LOL

6 to 20 times output is quite impressive.

Let's just hope we don't end up taking it for granted!

oops did I say that? dead3
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Re: Cold Fusion is heating up: The Holy Grail of Energy?
Someone should tell Iran.
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This technology could end our dependence on oil from other nations. What is so neat about this technology is that it uses very, very little fuel. Also, nickel is very, very cheap.

The first units are supposed to ship within three months. Also, there can be no doubt this is fusion. There is radioactivity being emitted. There is so much radioactivity that the device requires 2cm of lead.
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Re: Cold Fusion is heating up: The Holy Grail of Energy?
this technology is so misunderstood.....

takes time to build up the thermal reaction, about a month. The only real commercial application for this is hot water heaters. They are supplemented with electricity or natural gas, but if fully implemented can save a shitload of energy required to heat water.
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That is not true. The heat built up in the experiment in 30 minutes.
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This is the real deal folks.
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Nope.

I'm a research scientist as well. I've reviewed the article and the video,(one of my lab employees speaks Italian).

I would love to believe these guys, but there are a lot of red-flags popping up here. One the first things that hucksters do is hold a press conference with "select" individuals. This assures that no scientifically trained skeptics will be present to ask troubling questions. And the professionals that do show up are suspiciously obsequious.

I'm familiar with most of the instruments they have on display and quite honestly they are irrelevant to their claimed process.

I don't believe they've been heating their facility with this energy for a year or whatever, an easy claim to make, if such were the case, why aren't they displaying that obviously bigger, better, and proven unit. They're displaying a table top unit.

It's insanely easy to fake radiation output so that claim means nothing.

They also seem to be associated with Randell Mills, who owns Blacklight Power. Mills is probably the most sophisticated huckster on the planet today. This guy has made at least 100 million off investors and still hasn't produced a single kilowatt of his claimed energy.

If you want to see how savvy Mills is, visit his Blacklight Power website, and these Italian guys seems to be of the same ilk.
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If it's true, not long before big oil offs him.
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slightly disappointing to see that there's no flux capacitor..
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I can build you a flux capacitor. Seriously. A real one.
Won't bring you back in time, but very cool to see that it can be done.
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Re: Cold Fusion is heating up: The Holy Grail of Energy?
Cold Fusion getting hot with 10kw heater prepping for market

Italian inventor, Andrea Rossi, claims to have an industrial product ready to manufacture that produces large amounts of energy reliably, safely, and much cheaper than coal or natural gas power. It utilizes the fusion of hydrogen and the common element nickel at relatively low temperatures.

[link to pesn.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1233419


Answering the question of the title, NO, the "Holy Grail" of energy is Helium 3.
"Do or do not. There is no try." (Yoda)
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Where can I buy it?
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This is the real deal folks.


Nope.

I'm a research scientist as well. I've reviewed the article and the video,(one of my lab employees speaks Italian).

I would love to believe these guys, but there are a lot of red-flags popping up here. One the first things that hucksters do is hold a press conference with "select" individuals. This assures that no scientifically trained skeptics will be present to ask troubling questions. And the professionals that do show up are suspiciously obsequious.

I'm familiar with most of the instruments they have on display and quite honestly they are irrelevant to their claimed process.

I don't believe they've been heating their facility with this energy for a year or whatever, an easy claim to make, if such were the case, why aren't they displaying that obviously bigger, better, and proven unit. They're displaying a table top unit.

It's insanely easy to fake radiation output so that claim means nothing.

They also seem to be associated with Randell Mills, who owns Blacklight Power. Mills is probably the most sophisticated huckster on the planet today. This guy has made at least 100 million off investors and still hasn't produced a single kilowatt of his claimed energy.

If you want to see how savvy Mills is, visit his Blacklight Power website, and these Italian guys seems to be of the same ilk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1233458



Thanks for that. thumbs

Until a claim can be independently verified then it is just that, a "claim". History tells us they never amount to anything beyond that.

I wouldn't get too excited just yet...
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It's ready to go out on the market, it's ready to change the world, it's ready to solve many of our problems, but we were not gonna see it happen.
next thing your going to read is "expect to see cold fusion plants up and running in about 15 years."
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All of this is coming out the woodwork all of a sudden
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You only need enter underground military bases (the ones that your president can't enter) and see what it is used: crystal powered like in Atlantis days. It emits a blue light.
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