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Burt Gummer User ID: 989406 United States 01/17/2011 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cold Fusion getting hot with 10kw heater prepping for market Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1233419Italian inventor, Andrea Rossi, claims to have an industrial product ready to manufacture that produces large amounts of energy reliably, safely, and much cheaper than coal or natural gas power. It utilizes the fusion of hydrogen and the common element nickel at relatively low temperatures. [link to pesn.com] Did you steal my Mr. Fusion off the back of the DeLorean? Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 01/17/2011 11:32 AM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1233458 United States 01/17/2011 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1226035People have been claiming cold temp fusion for years and years. All were hoaxes. . This one will turn out to be a failure as well. At best, they're producing heat from a thermal reaction, not a nuclear one. That's why they're not letting any other scientists examine it. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1233419 United States 01/17/2011 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1233458People have been claiming cold temp fusion for years and years. All were hoaxes. . This one will turn out to be a failure as well. At best, they're producing heat from a thermal reaction, not a nuclear one. That's why they're not letting any other scientists examine it. This is not a thermal reaction. They are detecting radiation. The system works by producing radiation in the cell that generates heat in the shielding which boils water. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1194416 United States 01/17/2011 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cold fusion has been a reality for years now.. Imagine 1 gallon of sea water giving the same energy as 16 gallons of gasoline.. Quoting: GrimWolfNot quite. A number of reputable labs worldwide have gotten good results from cold fusion (including SRI as I recall) ... but then can't repeat their own experiments so as to get the same consistently repeatable results, the energy output ends up all over the ballpark, which has left them scratching their heads. There was a excellent summary of the reputable work written for the layperson in either Newsweek or the NY Times back about two years ago as I recall, plus 60 miutes did a segment on it back about the same time which interviewed some of the top Phd's around the world working on it. Just because the CURRENT theories of science can't explain it doesn't mean that all those reputable researchers are wrong in what they are seeing ... after all for many many years the TOP scientists in the world claimed that the sun revolved around the earth, and even as late as 1990 that ulcers were NOT in any way related to bacteria in the gut ... |
Tmad1 User ID: 1214565 United States 01/17/2011 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Always the same bullshit with theses ppl. When asked to have a independent lab verify his findings. [link to translate.google.com] Before me Ilaria Venturi Republic.I asked Rossi if he would be willing to put the equipment available to an independent laboratory for a complete examination. The answer was negative. Rossi explained that work on behalf of a company (the one that will produce in the reactor series), which has made massive investments to get the result shown today. Therefore, the "black box" will not be opened because it would give away a trade secret. The reactor itself conceals a secret, can not be reconstructed by anyone based on general knowledge of the principle of cold fusion or the papers of the patent. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1233419 United States 01/17/2011 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This technology has been verified by third parties in the past including LTI, the DOD, and the DOE. It is not a hoax. This could be the energy breakthrough we have been waiting on! Check this out..... Our standard module consumes 500 watts and yields constantly and with absolute reliability, with no risks that radiations exit the reactor and with no risks of explosion, 4 kW. We obtained much higher efficiencies, as you can read on the Focardi-Rossi paper published on the Journal Of Nuclear Physics, but now I had to find a compromise to manufacture power plants with absolute reliability under the point of view of safety. The excess of energy follows a K= 8 at the moment. We reached a K 400, but we got explosions. I can get risks when I amk alone, but to sell a reliable product I have to go down to 8, right now. We are manufacturing a 1 MW plant made with 125 modules. With 1 g of Ni I got 750 kW. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 968649 United States 01/17/2011 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this technology is so misunderstood..... takes time to build up the thermal reaction, about a month. The only real commercial application for this is hot water heaters. They are supplemented with electricity or natural gas, but if fully implemented can save a shitload of energy required to heat water. |
SeraphSirius User ID: 1233485 United States 01/17/2011 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't forget to buy the shares up! LOL 6 to 20 times output is quite impressive. Let's just hope we don't end up taking it for granted! oops did I say that? There is a secret to this land of confusion that is mystery Babylon. The enemy hides everything upside down, the unveiled key of Petros. We are all exiles from the Kingdom of Heaven, ye were once all gods. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1233419 United States 01/17/2011 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone should tell Iran. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1231823This technology could end our dependence on oil from other nations. What is so neat about this technology is that it uses very, very little fuel. Also, nickel is very, very cheap. The first units are supposed to ship within three months. Also, there can be no doubt this is fusion. There is radioactivity being emitted. There is so much radioactivity that the device requires 2cm of lead. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1233419 United States 01/17/2011 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this technology is so misunderstood..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 968649takes time to build up the thermal reaction, about a month. The only real commercial application for this is hot water heaters. They are supplemented with electricity or natural gas, but if fully implemented can save a shitload of energy required to heat water. That is not true. The heat built up in the experiment in 30 minutes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1233458 United States 01/17/2011 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the real deal folks. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 891707Nope. I'm a research scientist as well. I've reviewed the article and the video,(one of my lab employees speaks Italian). I would love to believe these guys, but there are a lot of red-flags popping up here. One the first things that hucksters do is hold a press conference with "select" individuals. This assures that no scientifically trained skeptics will be present to ask troubling questions. And the professionals that do show up are suspiciously obsequious. I'm familiar with most of the instruments they have on display and quite honestly they are irrelevant to their claimed process. I don't believe they've been heating their facility with this energy for a year or whatever, an easy claim to make, if such were the case, why aren't they displaying that obviously bigger, better, and proven unit. They're displaying a table top unit. It's insanely easy to fake radiation output so that claim means nothing. They also seem to be associated with Randell Mills, who owns Blacklight Power. Mills is probably the most sophisticated huckster on the planet today. This guy has made at least 100 million off investors and still hasn't produced a single kilowatt of his claimed energy. If you want to see how savvy Mills is, visit his Blacklight Power website, and these Italian guys seems to be of the same ilk. |
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Golden Mean User ID: 499653 United States 01/17/2011 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | slightly disappointing to see that there's no flux capacitor.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1220422I can build you a flux capacitor. Seriously. A real one. Won't bring you back in time, but very cool to see that it can be done. ~ Giving with expectation is not giving; it is bartering. |
UndercoverAlien User ID: 1199723 Brazil 01/17/2011 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cold Fusion getting hot with 10kw heater prepping for market Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1233419Italian inventor, Andrea Rossi, claims to have an industrial product ready to manufacture that produces large amounts of energy reliably, safely, and much cheaper than coal or natural gas power. It utilizes the fusion of hydrogen and the common element nickel at relatively low temperatures. [link to pesn.com] Answering the question of the title, NO, the "Holy Grail" of energy is Helium 3. "Do or do not. There is no try." (Yoda) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1210350 United Kingdom 01/17/2011 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the real deal folks. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1233458Nope. I'm a research scientist as well. I've reviewed the article and the video,(one of my lab employees speaks Italian). I would love to believe these guys, but there are a lot of red-flags popping up here. One the first things that hucksters do is hold a press conference with "select" individuals. This assures that no scientifically trained skeptics will be present to ask troubling questions. And the professionals that do show up are suspiciously obsequious. I'm familiar with most of the instruments they have on display and quite honestly they are irrelevant to their claimed process. I don't believe they've been heating their facility with this energy for a year or whatever, an easy claim to make, if such were the case, why aren't they displaying that obviously bigger, better, and proven unit. They're displaying a table top unit. It's insanely easy to fake radiation output so that claim means nothing. They also seem to be associated with Randell Mills, who owns Blacklight Power. Mills is probably the most sophisticated huckster on the planet today. This guy has made at least 100 million off investors and still hasn't produced a single kilowatt of his claimed energy. If you want to see how savvy Mills is, visit his Blacklight Power website, and these Italian guys seems to be of the same ilk. Thanks for that. Until a claim can be independently verified then it is just that, a "claim". History tells us they never amount to anything beyond that. I wouldn't get too excited just yet... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1233553 United States 01/17/2011 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's ready to go out on the market, it's ready to change the world, it's ready to solve many of our problems, but we were not gonna see it happen. next thing your going to read is "expect to see cold fusion plants up and running in about 15 years." |
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