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Where to go when the SHTF in the US

 
Mama Teri
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Where to go when the SHTF in the US
I had seen this a few years ago, saved it, and forgot about until a couple days ago. It shows what states are prone to what kinds of possible disasters. I haven't been able to find anything like this for any areas other than the US though.

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cool maps thanks.
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NM FTW! 5a
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Looks like I'm fine except for the airbase strike.
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NM FTW! 5a
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LOL...yeah I was noticing that NM looks pretty darned safe. Wonder how the family would feel if I packed them up and moved there? LOL
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LOOKS LIKE WEST TEXAS IS THE PLACE TO BE BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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NM FTW! 5a


LOL...yeah I was noticing that NM looks pretty darned safe. Wonder how the family would feel if I packed them up and moved there? LOL
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How is it for water, if their was some sort of social unrest (people not going to work) or EMP?
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TUCSON IS A SAFE ZONE

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I have only been as far as Albuquerque so I'm not really sure. I know the Rio Grande runs through NM and that is about as good as I can do. LOL
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There's some serious DOOM! Looks like if the earthquakes don't get me, the nukes will ...
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Thanks OP
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I have only been as far as Albuquerque so I'm not really sure. I know the Rio Grande runs through NM and that is about as good as I can do. LOL
 Quoting: Mama Teri


Water IS a problem, just like it is throughout most of the Southwest. You have to go deep to find it, and water rights are one of the biggest fights in the states, esp with the NA's.

BUT, you can't (yet) stop people from collecting rainwater and that has become a secondary source for a lot of NM.

Shared wells are common in rural areas.

My neighborhood stipulates 5500 gals of stored water buried on your own property.
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Looks like I'm screwed no matter what!!!
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good thing nobody will have to worry about where to go
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You could own some nice beach front out there in Arizona
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I have only been as far as Albuquerque so I'm not really sure. I know the Rio Grande runs through NM and that is about as good as I can do. LOL


Water IS a problem, just like it is throughout most of the Southwest. You have to go deep to find it, and water rights are one of the biggest fights in the states, esp with the NA's.

BUT, you can't (yet) stop people from collecting rainwater and that has become a secondary source for a lot of NM.

Shared wells are common in rural areas.

My neighborhood stipulates 5500 gals of stored water buried on your own property.
 Quoting: Soul Devine


So I wonder if those bottom three maps came to pass and the oceans moved WAY east if there would be a problem with ground water contamination from salt water? I keep telling my mom and kids I want to move to Montana because in a few years I would have beach front property. LOL
I am actually pretty drawn to northern Idawhore...the Bonners Ferry area.
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www.ki4u.com has a Free Download of Nuclear War Survival Skills by Cresson Kearny. That book was published by Oakridge National Laboratory as a civil defense related project to ascertain that ordinary citizens evacuating from cities in time of Nuclear Event Expectation could make a shelter that would protect from detonation overpressures.

This means, with this book, some basic tools and ability to dig a trench and cover over with either a door, plywood, or timber that an average family could survive a nuclear strike occuring 8mi or further away.


Where to go?
More like why go anywhere unless you have gear and ability to arrive safely and live in some degree of comfort. Also need to be sure of your surroundings and the immediate area. Got a relative that lives in SmallTown USA, or maybe a vacation home or some acres that some relative used to live on? Those destinations would be better, most likely, than other options like moving onto National Forest or BLM land and doing an extensive "camp-out". Yet, if that is what you can do; maybe it works...

Got an RV or several grand to be able to buy one? The van chassis RVs are often for-sale cheap by people who've gotten too old to use them. Any RV with a generator, refrigerator, toilet and water system, cookstove etc is workable for daily living; plus it moves. Might need to do some repairs on an old one, but use your head and look at a few buy the best one and haggle on price. If you have property, an RV gives you a cabin on wheels to get there and a place to live until you make more permanent arrangements.

Lots of places to "go". Best to go somewhere people know you or your family. Gives them a reason to consider you to be an asset rather than a liability. Nice to have some old farm or a few acres to move onto versus being out in some remote mountain valley where all you will do is freeze.

Of course, if you have horses, 4x4 trucks and trailers then maybe you can make a go in the outback. Haul in a bunch of supplies on horseback, chainsaw with Alaska Mill, haul gear in after you have the horses situated... Trailhead might be your friend; but it won't for most people. Ain't nobody gonna live more than a week or two out of a backpack unless they are Ron Hood.

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Great info.!! Thanks Mama Teri!!

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So I wonder if those bottom three maps came to pass and the oceans moved WAY east if there would be a problem with ground water contamination from salt water? I keep telling my mom and kids I want to move to Montana because in a few years I would have beach front property. LOL
I am actually pretty drawn to northern Idawhore...the Bonners Ferry area.
 Quoting: Mama Teri


I have a friend who lives in Sandpoint. Loves it.
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it should be a place familiar to you. thats #1.
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I have only been as far as Albuquerque so I'm not really sure. I know the Rio Grande runs through NM and that is about as good as I can do. LOL
 Quoting: Mama Teri


The Rio Grande around Espanola NM barely flows enough to float an innertube or raft. Maybe during melt-off season it cascades pretty deeply, but by Summer you can walk most of it barely knee deep.

NM is pretty bleak agriculturally speaking. Large cattle ranches go very cheaply outside of the tourist and town areas because it takes 50 acres or many times more to support one cow. Southern NM has best growing season. Eastern Colorado is good for agriculture, OK, KS, Neb but get into the Rockies and you lose soil and growing season. Pretty cold at night at any elevation much over 3000'. NM is a bleak place to live and worse to choose deliberately for survivalist relocation.

Eastern OK, AR, TN, Southern Missouri, Eastern TX, Louisiana and the rest of the South are best choices for climate, growing season, soils, water, and hardwood timber resources. With 5 or 10 acres in E. TX you could raise a cow or two, an acre of food crops, have some timber for firewood and likely find water fairly close to surface. Those kind of assets make making a life possible if you work at it and have enough gear to get established.
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So I wonder if those bottom three maps came to pass and the oceans moved WAY east if there would be a problem with ground water contamination from salt water? I keep telling my mom and kids I want to move to Montana because in a few years I would have beach front property. LOL
I am actually pretty drawn to northern Idawhore...the Bonners Ferry area.


I have a friend who lives in Sandpoint. Loves it.
 Quoting: Soul Devine


I spent a week camping (kinda) on the outskirts of Sandpoint in the mid-90's. It was kind of creepy with the Aryan Nation up there but I understand they have moved out of the area so maybe it isn't so bad now. We took a day trip up to Canada while we were there and went through Bonners Ferry and I instantly fell in love with the town.
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I have only been as far as Albuquerque so I'm not really sure. I know the Rio Grande runs through NM and that is about as good as I can do. LOL


The Rio Grande around Espanola NM barely flows enough to float an innertube or raft. Maybe during melt-off season it cascades pretty deeply, but by Summer you can walk most of it barely knee deep.

NM is pretty bleak agriculturally speaking. Large cattle ranches go very cheaply outside of the tourist and town areas because it takes 50 acres or many times more to support one cow. Southern NM has best growing season. Eastern Colorado is good for agriculture, OK, KS, Neb but get into the Rockies and you lose soil and growing season. Pretty cold at night at any elevation much over 3000'. NM is a bleak place to live and worse to choose deliberately for survivalist relocation.

Eastern OK, AR, TN, Southern Missouri, Eastern TX, Louisiana and the rest of the South are best choices for climate, growing season, soils, water, and hardwood timber resources. With 5 or 10 acres in E. TX you could raise a cow or two, an acre of food crops, have some timber for firewood and likely find water fairly close to surface. Those kind of assets make making a life possible if you work at it and have enough gear to get established.
 Quoting: Lester


When I lived in Alamosa Colorado we could walk across the Rio Grande in the winter because it had such a thick layer of ice on it. I always thought that was funnybecause when you think of the Rio Grande you think of this big, roaring, river. Not there it wasn't.
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I have only been as far as Albuquerque so I'm not really sure. I know the Rio Grande runs through NM and that is about as good as I can do. LOL


Water IS a problem, just like it is throughout most of the Southwest. You have to go deep to find it, and water rights are one of the biggest fights in the states, esp with the NA's.

BUT, you can't (yet) stop people from collecting rainwater and that has become a secondary source for a lot of NM.

Shared wells are common in rural areas.

My neighborhood stipulates 5500 gals of stored water buried on your own property.


So I wonder if those bottom three maps came to pass and the oceans moved WAY east if there would be a problem with ground water contamination from salt water? I keep telling my mom and kids I want to move to Montana because in a few years I would have beach front property. LOL
I am actually pretty drawn to northern Idawhore...the Bonners Ferry area.
 Quoting: Mama Teri

Yeah, eastern Washington and northern Idaho are fairly safe places for DOOM. If you have seen the Pete Peterson Project Camelot interview, I'm pretty sure that is where he has bugged out to. The only 'target' in that area is Fairchild Air Force base, which is a bomber base.
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I have only been as far as Albuquerque so I'm not really sure. I know the Rio Grande runs through NM and that is about as good as I can do. LOL


Water IS a problem, just like it is throughout most of the Southwest. You have to go deep to find it, and water rights are one of the biggest fights in the states, esp with the NA's.

BUT, you can't (yet) stop people from collecting rainwater and that has become a secondary source for a lot of NM.

Shared wells are common in rural areas.

My neighborhood stipulates 5500 gals of stored water buried on your own property.


So I wonder if those bottom three maps came to pass and the oceans moved WAY east if there would be a problem with ground water contamination from salt water? I keep telling my mom and kids I want to move to Montana because in a few years I would have beach front property. LOL
I am actually pretty drawn to northern Idawhore...the Bonners Ferry area.

Yeah, eastern Washington and northern Idaho are fairly safe places for DOOM. If you have seen the Pete Peterson Project Camelot interview, I'm pretty sure that is where he has bugged out to. The only 'target' in that area is Fairchild Air Force base, which is a bomber base.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1195298


Haven't seen that (never heard of it, either...I'm new to all this doom stuff).

So my mom and son are finally understanding my desire to move out of the area we are in. They both watched Decoded on TV last night about 2012 and the Hopi prophecies and apparently it scared the bezesus out of them. I don't know that I believe the whole mega-tsunami/earthquake/super volcano stuff that people talk about, I'm actually more worried about a complete financial collapse and the chaos and mayhem that would produce. Hell I would much prefer to be taken out immediately in a natural disaster.
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I have only been as far as Albuquerque so I'm not really sure. I know the Rio Grande runs through NM and that is about as good as I can do. LOL
 Quoting: Mama Teri

I lived in NM for 30 years. Be happy to answer any questions.
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Cool, looks like Fort Worth Texas is good to go on every map. Guess I'm staying home and watching the doom on CNN.
They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out.
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THE MAPS ON THE BOTTOM ARE WRONG
opps caps sorry

the state of Texas and Florida and the whole east caost all the way up to Maine

will be washed away
no where is safe.........

but if you go directly to the center of the USA

MAYBE just maybe you have a shot BUT

I see NO FOOD there so if you are going there to try and survive whats coming?

better have food to last you a few years
and everything else..
weapons...........
you name it and shelter.........
nothing underground cause the earth is still gunna move
dont plan on planting things earth will be junk to plant
and no clean water.......


either way NO WHERE SAFE

we are all soooooooooooo fucked hard core

i dont care how fucking rich you are
NO ONE will make it by 2013
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THE MAPS ON THE BOTTOM ARE WRONG
opps caps sorry

the state of Texas and Florida and the whole east caost all the way up to Maine

will be washed away
no where is safe.........

but if you go directly to the center of the USA

MAYBE just maybe you have a shot BUT

I see NO FOOD there so if you are going there to try and survive whats coming?

better have food to last you a few years
and everything else..
weapons...........
you name it and shelter.........
nothing underground cause the earth is still gunna move
dont plan on planting things earth will be junk to plant
and no clean water.......


either way NO WHERE SAFE

we are all soooooooooooo fucked hard core

i dont care how fucking rich you are
NO ONE will make it by 2013
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Wow, aren't you just a breath of fresh air.
They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out.
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NO ONE will make it by 2013
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Wrong.. i will
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