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Jesus is present in the Holy Eucharist, you can't twist Scripture to mean what you want it to say.

 
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Where does it say it isn't a symbol?

There's not much point in talking to catholic fanatics. They're stupid and have no understanding.
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As a Christian you should be simply loving as Christ taught you

Not spewing hate or being judgemental
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


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Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

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You i-doll statue-worshiping cult-sacrificing nuts are the Torah-twisters. And you have the audacity to call your myth-touting sad excuse at plagiarism: "new" testament. HA! No; it didn't work.
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If you're such a good Catholic then XXXX woman, mind your place and do not dare arrogate to yourself the authority reserved for men.

I have spoken.
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You have no authority, that's why you are angry poddy
mouth. Can't answer one simple question. Protestants finally
have to stop attacking the Church and defend their own
beliefs.

Where does it say in your not God's "Bible Alone" doctrine...where does it say in Scripture the "bread and wine" are a symbol?

Jesus said "This is My body."

The Church has been given the "authority" by God not
each "man" individually to decide the meaning of His revelation, all of His revelation, there is more than
the written Word.

I believe and share what the Church has given us. I am
witnessing to the Truth not giving a sermon. You don't believe the Truth and are setting for juice and crackers,
all personal opinion. So sad. So is Jeff Kingshott.
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OP you cannot deny historical fact; the popes of the past issued death warrants/papal bulls; ten commandments thou shalt not kill; tortured people; Spanish inquisition; Jesus Christ lived in poverty; Vatican a palace better than any kings, or queens in the whole of history.

You can delude yourself; but the evidence is against you; even pope John Paul 2 kissed the Koran, and called it a holy book; profanity; you are the whore of Babylon; even God states in revelation come out of her my people because you bring them to err.


Jesus loves all. sheep
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I say this without hate or fanfare but from it's inception Roman Catholisism has always been the pagan church of Mithra. Always.


Wow! Your one sentence, it must be true.

You will see personally in the Great Warning. Pride keeps
you from accepting the Truth. Stay with man-made teachings,
they came about in protest of Christ's Church. The denial of
her authority and of course goes with the denial of the power of the priesthood. God granted "spiritual" power to help save our souls.


Ac 12255..,

Prefigured in the Old and stated over and over in the New
Testament...most importantly by Christ Himself.

Jesus said "This is My body."
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Truth comes in small packages. :)
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OP, as a fellow Catholic, I agree with you.

Just the same, I believe in the Eucharistic Presence more than I believe in the Roman Catholic Church. Also, the validity of the Eastern Mass is something that the Vatican also accepts, therefore the Sacraments are the basis of the Church and not the other way around.

Secondly, the English readings of Scripture in the Liturgy have been totally bastardized, corrupted, and mangled beyond repair by ICEL. Why am I acknowledging as "the Word of God" readings which are not found in any Bible on the face of the earth and are stripped of all spiritual value??

hf
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makes me feel sick....







cannibals and vampires... eating bodies and blood, no mather who... this is the very BLOOD RITUAL of devil worshipers.... more proof something is off with religion...


read your scriptures and eat blood....



do not invite me...
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Yeah, drink my blood and live forever always seemed like a really creepy vampiric thing to me too.
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makes me feel sick....







cannibals and vampires... eating bodies and blood, no mather who... this is the very BLOOD RITUAL of devil worshipers.... more proof something is off with religion...


read your scriptures and eat blood....



do not invite me...



Yeah, drink my blood and live forever always seemed like a really creepy vampiric thing to me too.

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It is a "spirit and life" understanding meaning you must
come higher, believe God wishes to come to us this way.

Jesus is "sacramentally" present...still, He is present
entirely, body, blood soul and divinity in the consecrated
host.
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Dear Protestant Christians and non-Christian believers,

Don't take my comments in a negative way. I am trying to get
you to think. You hear in the Protestant messages from
Heaven...time is short.

Step up to defend your beliefs don't just mock Roman Catholicism.

God wants you to believe in His presence in the Holy Eucharist. Seeing no change in the consecrated
host but still BELIEVING. Another word, it's called faith. As signs throughout almost 2000 years of history, God helps our belief with Eucharistic miracles.

Open your hearts to accepting this is God's plan.


I love you all,


hf

p.s. I've posted before a Youtube explaining a particular
Eucharistic miracle...tested by science and comes to be it
is a miracle within miracles. I'll post it again, watch it,
...read the translation as you view the scientist speak.

Atheists come to conversion realizing....
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Eucharistic Miracle

Take the time to view the Youtube. It is fascinating, only
God can make this happen. The scientist explains....
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Malachi 4:2
But unto you that fear my name, the Sun of justice shall arise, and health in his wings: and you shall go forth, and shall leap like calves of the herd. (Douay-Rheims)



The design of the monstrance, with the radiating rays of the sun, recalls a passage in the Old Testament predicting Christ's role in the New Testament.


I didn't know the reason. Thank you Father Mitch Pacqua.


"The function of a monstrance is to display the Sacred Host - the bread which, when consecrated by a Catholic priest during the service of Mass, miraculously transforms into the body of Christ. The Host was placed inside the window in the crescent-shaped holder called a 'lunula'"
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You don't have to go with the Protestant belief, it isn't true. Change now before God shows you. Remember prefigured in the Old Testament...the Passover meal is made greater in the New Testament. God comes down to us, He is the bread from Heaven.

Is this coincidence, no! Read about the Todah Sacrifice.
Don't be prideful and stubborn and deny the Eucharist any longer.

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The Todah Sacrifice

The ancient Jews had a special ritual meal called the Todah (Hebrew: thanks) (pronounce: Taw-DAH). Although the Todah sacrificed an animal, it was greater than other animal sacrifices because it added the suffering of one's own life. David wrote, Ps 40:6,8 "Burnt offering and sin offering Thou hast not required. … I delight to do Thy will, O my God; Thy law is within my heart." Again, David wrote, Ps 51:17 "The sacrifice acceptable to God is a broken spirit." And again, Ps 69:30 "I will praise the name of God with a song; I will magnify Him with thanksgiving. This will please the Lord more than an ox or a bull with horns and hoofs." Isaiah spoke the words of God, Is 1:11 "I have had enough of burnt offerings of rams." God called instead for a baptism: Is 1:16 "Wash yourselves; make yourselves clean; remove the evil of your doings from My eyes; cease to do evil, learn to do good."

The seventy elders who went up with Moses to see God offered the Todah: Ex 24:11 "They beheld God, and ate and drank." Twelve centuries later, twelve apostles beheld God, and ate and drank as Jesus prepared to offer His Todah sacrifice: Lk 22:19 "He took bread, and when He had given thanks He broke it…" From the beginning, Christ's Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity has been called Holy Eucharist (Greek: eucharistia, thanksgiving).

The ancient rabbis believed that when the Messiah would come all sacrifices except the Todah would cease, but the Todah would continue for all eternity. In 70 AD the Temple fell to earth and all of the bloody animal sacrifices stopped. Only the Todah remains, the eucharistia, the Final Sacrifice at which the last words spoken are Todah l'Adonai, "Thanks be to God."
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For the time ahead ~ A help to realize why the priesthood is holy and why you must receive the Eucharist.

+ + +

September 3, 2006

Message to the Prayer Group of the Blessed Sacrament


Persona Christi (the Priest)


Given to Third Person

"To all My little ones.
Thank you for being faithful to the teachings of Christ which flow
from the mystical Body of Christ - the one, holy and apostolic Church. The
Catholic Church.

I ask all now this question: Can anyone give or minister to another
what they do not have or possess? Absolutely not. Have all who profess to be
Christians have the charism of the priesthood - 'persona Christi'? Absolutely
not. The priesthood was established on Holy Thursday by Me, Jesus Christ, at the
Last Supper. I, Jesus Christ, mandated to the twelve apostles, 'Do this in
commemoration of Me' (Luke 22:19). Here, I instituted the Bread of Life known as
the Eucharist, and the continual sacrifice; and also the new covenant
priesthood. I stated, 'I have not come to destroy the prophets or the Law, but
to fulfill them' (Matt 5:17). Only a priest could offer sacrifices in the Old
Covenant.

It was only the Levites who could become priests (Heb 7:5). In the New
Covenant, only the apostolic House of God can ordain priests under the authority
of Rome. I, Jesus Christ, am the Eternal High Priest and victim to be offered
(Heb 2:17; 3:1). I work in 'persona Christi.' The validly ordained priest here
on earth is the vehicle I use to minister sanctifying grace to the flock and the
validly ordained priest only can offer the continual sacrifice that is the Mass
- where Calvary is represented to the Father in Heaven (which is the New
Covenant Passover: 'Who eats My Body and drinks My Blood has everlasting life
and will be raised up on the last day' (John 6:55) ). This is the Passover from
sin and eternal death.
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For the time ahead ~ A help to realize why the priesthood is holy and why you must receive the Eucharist.

+ + +

September 3, 2006

Message to the Prayer Group of the Blessed Sacrament


Persona Christi (the Priest)


Given to Third Person

"To all My little ones.
Thank you for being faithful to the teachings of Christ which flow
from the mystical Body of Christ - the one, holy and apostolic Church. The
Catholic Church.

I ask all now this question: Can anyone give or minister to another
what they do not have or possess? Absolutely not. Have all who profess to be
Christians have the charism of the priesthood - 'persona Christi'? Absolutely
not. The priesthood was established on Holy Thursday by Me, Jesus Christ, at the
Last Supper. I, Jesus Christ, mandated to the twelve apostles, 'Do this in
commemoration of Me' (Luke 22:19). Here, I instituted the Bread of Life known as
the Eucharist, and the continual sacrifice; and also the new covenant
priesthood. I stated, 'I have not come to destroy the prophets or the Law, but
to fulfill them' (Matt 5:17). Only a priest could offer sacrifices in the Old
Covenant.

It was only the Levites who could become priests (Heb 7:5). In the New
Covenant, only the apostolic House of God can ordain priests under the authority
of Rome. I, Jesus Christ, am the Eternal High Priest and victim to be offered
(Heb 2:17; 3:1). I work in 'persona Christi.' The validly ordained priest here
on earth is the vehicle I use to minister sanctifying grace to the flock
and the
validly ordained priest only can offer the continual sacrifice that is the Mass
- where Calvary is represented to the Father in Heaven (which is the New
Covenant Passover: 'Who eats My Body and drinks My Blood has everlasting life
and will be raised up on the last day' (John 6:55) ). This is the Passover from
sin and eternal death.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1214025


'In the person of Christ'.


In the confessional, as the priest gives absolution,
he says, 'I absolve you of your sins'.
He does not say Jesus Christ absolves you of your sins.
The priest is acting in the person of Christ,
'In Persona Christi'.

Think about this for a minute, as it is an awesome truth.

During the consecration of the host, the priest says,
'This is MY Body'.
He does not say, this is the Body of Christ.
The priest is acting in the person of Christ,
'In Persona Christi'.

Again it is almost incomprehensible, that it is possible for any human person to act in the person of Christ.
However, it is a teaching of the Church,
and is therefore to be believed.
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The Roman Church has no biblical autority. The body of believer are the church/bride of Jesus.

Before departing...

Lu.22:16,18 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God. For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.

And we shall look yet again at the text which has nothing to do with the pre existing eucharist...

(John 6:52-63) The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?

Then Jesus said to them, Truly, truly, I say to you, Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh, and drinks my blood, has eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He that eats my flesh, and drinks my blood, dwells in me, and I in him. As the living Father has sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eats me, even he shall live by me. This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eats of this bread shall live for ever. These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.

Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said to them, Does this offend you? What and if you shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? It is the spirit that vivifies; the flesh profits nothing: the words that I speak to you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Even the Jews and also the desciples were confused by what was said. Jesus clarifies in the last passage above.

Eating and drinking is a ritual of works.

Here's the catholic church practice described in the OT...

Jer.7:18 "The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings to other gods, that they may provoke me to anger."

An ancient ritual held over in the corrupt catholic-christianity, just as the vestal virgins became nuns.

Wafer "god"
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buzz off you stupid Cathy
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You're angry now, I pray you'll remember this thread when
the Great Warning takes place. Truly....

"For the time ahead ~ A help to realize why the priesthood is holy and why you must receive the Eucharist."
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if you are believing in the catholic lies still at this point, you are sadly delusional

what about raping kids and then hiding it?

you think god supports THAT?
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'In the person of Christ'.


In the confessional, as the priest gives absolution,
he says, 'I absolve you of your sins'.
He does not say Jesus Christ absolves you of your sins.
The priest is acting in the person of Christ,
'In Persona Christi'.

Think about this for a minute, as it is an awesome truth.

During the consecration of the host, the priest says,
'This is MY Body'.
He does not say, this is the Body of Christ.
The priest is acting in the person of Christ,
'In Persona Christi'.

Again it is almost incomprehensible, that it is possible for any human person to act in the person of Christ.
However, it is a teaching of the Church,
and is therefore to be believed.
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The priest can't forgive sin at all according to the word of god. Therefor no sin has ever been forgiven by any priests. On judgment day the multitudes of lost Catholics will stand beofre the throne without the blood of Jesus covering their sins. Because they never asked for it. They asked for a priest. And they pray to Mary, not Jesus.

You're all lost as the word of God plainly says, rightfully described mystery babylon..
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if you want to find God, run away from the catholic church and read the Bible

the catholic church is practicing mithraism (at best)
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'In the person of Christ'.


In the confessional, as the priest gives absolution,
he says, 'I absolve you of your sins'.
He does not say Jesus Christ absolves you of your sins.
The priest is acting in the person of Christ,
'In Persona Christi'.

Think about this for a minute, as it is an awesome truth.

During the consecration of the host, the priest says,
'This is MY Body'.
He does not say, this is the Body of Christ.
The priest is acting in the person of Christ,
'In Persona Christi'.

Again it is almost incomprehensible, that it is possible for any human person to act in the person of Christ.
However, it is a teaching of the Church,
and is therefore to be believed.
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The priest can't forgive sin at all according to the word of god. Therefor no sin has ever been forgiven by any priests. On judgment day the multitudes of lost Catholics will stand beofre the throne without the blood of Jesus covering their sins. Because they never asked for it. They asked for a priest. And they pray to Mary, not Jesus.

You're all lost as the word of God plainly says, rightfully described mystery babylon..
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+1
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it's a cracker
made by useless old women who have never worked
not even a good style cracker
don't kid yourself
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We're not trying to..it's already been done. In fact, the whole "Bible" has been plagerized.

I'm more concerned with the true writings than your fake ones.
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The Roman Church has no biblical autority. The body of believer are the church/bride of Jesus.

Before departing...

Lu.22:16,18 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God. For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.

And we shall look yet again at the text which has nothing to do with the pre existing eucharist...

(John 6:52-63) The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?

Then Jesus said to them, Truly, truly, I say to you, Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh, and drinks my blood, has eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He that eats my flesh, and drinks my blood, dwells in me, and I in him. As the living Father has sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eats me, even he shall live by me. This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eats of this bread shall live for ever. These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.

Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said to them, Does this offend you? What and if you shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? It is the spirit that vivifies; the flesh profits nothing: the words that I speak to you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Even the Jews and also the desciples were confused by what was said. Jesus clarifies in the last passage above.

Eating and drinking is a ritual of works.

Here's the catholic church practice described in the OT...

Jer.7:18 "The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings to other gods, that they may provoke me to anger."

An ancient ritual held over in the corrupt catholic-christianity, just as the vestal virgins became nuns.

Wafer "god"
[link to www.aloha.net]
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Is that some sick joke...metaphorically speaking. SICK!
"Life should not be measured by the breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away."
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OP runs away from the other thread he/she began about mary worship and catholicism. Anyway, same old stuff that has no Witness or Relationship With The Father...

Below is my last reply:



Re: Jesus calls her..."the Woman adorned with the sun"....rebuttal to the demonic anti-mary threads Quote #

OP has no witness, only catechism-oriented "beliefs".

Previously I cited Jesus' Witness "Who is my mother?" when HE was informed by one or more of the Apostles that HIS mother and BROTHERS were outside wanting to converse with HIM. Brothers....

The cross is revered by twisted catholicism.
Might as well hold the bullet that almost took John Paul IIs life in awe.

Jesus' agony in gaethsemane was not about dying as propitiation for all sin, but rather having to bear the sin of the world and thereby be cut-off from The Father as HE was upon the cross.

Catholic mass though has it all wrong.
We don't Receive HIM at communion, but only by Being Born-Again In The Father...

All the bullshit catholicism mandates is designed to keep "motherchurch" in alienation from God, not Give Witness of The Gospel, The Way Ordained By Father and Enabled by God The Son!

For almost 27yrs I have Abided IN and With God.
Living In and With HIM is all I need...


So sad that catholics are totally indoctrinated in a mode of worship that is actually moving them away from God, not closer.

The same old shit. Fear based paranoia to keep the quasi-faithful in line. Only catholicism is really of-God. blah Blah bullshit!

Jesus did not found any "religion" or church-order.
Men who sought power or wealth conceived of methodologies that would pay lip-service to God, not Trusting HIM Fully.

Christianity is not "religion".
Until you move forward from Believer or Faithful, decide you can Trust God Fully To Guide and Direct your life, without reservation or condition, you will not Know what a Christian really IS...


Think many of the baby-raping priests ever truly gave their lives to God? How many thousands of lawsuits even involving rape of women and young men have had to be settled. Which diocese declared bankruptcy a couple weeks ago because of all the settlements they had to pay? Why is alcoholism and likely drug abuse too so common among the priesthood?

the rcc is totally alienated from God.

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The Roman Catholic Church is the seat of the Anti-Christ.......so why in hell would I listen to any of their doctrines.

They are the beast that will rise in all nations to persecute and kill those that worship Jesus Christ.

All who don't know Jesus Christ will go after this beast system.

It's the RCC that is deluded in most of their doctrines since they don't value the bible.
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First, you have no authority and second you ignore Scripture and third, you conflict with Christian history.

A false prophet gives Scripture references to the supposed message and adds his personal opinion to every verse! So sad, doesn't make it true.

Example, one of his nonsensical comments.


"17For we [no matter how] numerous we are, are one body, because we all partake of the one Bread [the One Whom the communion bread represents]."


He can't be specific...so he says numerous and leaves you
hanging. Numerous what? "Numerous" being the thousands, Protestant sects.


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Your going to see(discern) these things happen periodically but not to upset you but rather to uproot and teardown those in disgrace .

So let go of the old and hang onto the new \o/ for I AM a God that calms the troubled waters and all is laid open before Me namely the true intent of the heart that none may say to Me " Lord , Lord ! I gave, I spent , I gathered and I suffered " ?!

Yes, I reply but for your own kingdom of vanity " the cup of demons " and not My kingdom for you forsake those I sent to you when you called upon Me and rather received the lies the messengers of satan showed you in spite and deceit twisting the truth that guile might feed the root of pride and vanity masquerading as My Bride !

There is only one Kingdom and Power that glorifies Me and that are first Holy then Virtuous delivered through true humility dressed in adoration for their Savior and King wearing The Heart of The Father(seven eyes looking to and fro) on their wellspring ! ! !



Exodus 28:29-30 (Amplified Bible)

29So Aaron shall bear the names of the sons of Israel in the breastplate of judgment upon his heart when he goes into the Holy Place, to bring them in continual remembrance before the Lord.

30In the breastplate of judgment you shall put the Urim and the Thummim [unspecified articles used when the high priest asked God's counsel for all Israel]; they shall be upon Aaron's heart when he goes in before the Lord, and Aaron shall bear the judgment (rights, judicial decisions) of the Israelites upon his heart before the Lord continually.
1 Corinthians 2:15 (Amplified Bible)

15But the spiritual man tries all things [he examines, investigates, inquires into, questions, and discerns all things], yet is himself to be put on trial and judged by no one [he can read the meaning of everything, but no one can properly discern or appraise or get an insight into him].

1 Corinthians 10:14-22 (Amplified Bible)

14Therefore, my dearly beloved, shun (keep clear away from, avoid by flight if need be) any sort of idolatry (of loving or venerating anything more than God).

15I am speaking as to intelligent (sensible) men. Think over and make up your minds [for yourselves] about what I say. [I appeal to your reason and your discernment in these matters.]

16The cup of blessing [of wine at the Lord's Supper] upon which we ask [God's] blessing, does it not mean [that in drinking it] we participate in and share a fellowship (a communion) in the blood of Christ (the Messiah)? The bread which we break, does it not mean [that in eating it] we participate in and share a fellowship (a communion) in the body of Christ?

17For we [no matter how] numerous we are, are one body, because we all partake of the one Bread [the One Whom the communion bread represents].

18Consider those [physically] people of Israel. Are not those who eat the sacrifices partners of the altar [united in their worship of the same God]?

19What do I imply then? That food offered to idols is [intrinsically changed by the fact and amounts to] anything or that an idol itself is a [living] thing?

20No, I am suggesting that what the pagans sacrifice they offer [in effect] to demons (to evil spiritual powers) and not to God [at all]. I do not want you to fellowship and be partners with diabolical spirits [by eating at their feasts].

21You cannot drink the Lord's cup and the demons' cup. You cannot partake of the Lord's table and the demons' table.

22Shall we thus provoke the Lord to jealousy and anger and indignation? Are we stronger than He [that we should defy Him]?

Psalm 103
[A Psalm] of David.

1BLESS (AFFECTIONATELY, gratefully praise) the Lord, O my soul; and all that is [deepest] within me, bless His holy name!

2Bless (affectionately, gratefully praise) the Lord, O my soul, and forget not [one of] all His benefits--

3Who forgives [every one of] all your iniquities, Who heals [each one of] all your diseases,

4Who redeems your life from the pit and corruption, Who beautifies, dignifies, and crowns you with loving-kindness and tender mercy;

5Who satisfies your mouth [your necessity and desire at your personal age and situation] with good so that your youth, renewed, is like the eagle's [strong, overcoming, soaring]!

6The Lord executes righteousness and justice [not for me only, but] for all who are oppressed.

7He made known His ways [of righteousness and justice] to Moses, His acts to the children of Israel.

8The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger and plenteous in mercy and loving-kindness.

9He will not always chide or be contending, neither will He keep His anger forever or hold a grudge.

10He has not dealt with us after our sins nor rewarded us according to our iniquities.

11For as the heavens are high above the earth, so great are His mercy and loving-kindness toward those who reverently and worshipfully fear Him.

12As far as the east is from the west, so far has He removed our transgressions from us.

13As a father loves and pities his children, so the Lord loves and pities those who fear Him [with reverence, worship, and awe].

14For He knows our frame, He [earnestly] remembers and imprints [on His heart] that we are dust.

15As for man, his days are as grass; as a flower of the field, so he flourishes.

16For the wind passes over it and it is gone, and its place shall know it no more.

17But the mercy and loving-kindness of the Lord are from everlasting to everlasting upon those who reverently and worshipfully fear Him, and His righteousness is to children's children--

18To such as keep His covenant [hearing, receiving, loving, and obeying it] and to those who [earnestly] remember His commandments to do them [imprinting them on their hearts].



Cross references:

1. 1 Corinthians 10:18 : Lev 7:6
2. 1 Corinthians 10:20 : Deut 32:17
3. 1 Corinthians 10:22 : Deut 32:21; Eccl 6:10; Isa 45:9

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September 3, 2006

Message to the Prayer Group of the Blessed Sacrament


Persona Christi (the Priest)


Given to Third Person

"To all My little ones.
Thank you for being faithful to the teachings of Christ which flow
from the mystical Body of Christ - the one, holy and apostolic Church. The
Catholic Church.

I ask all now this question: Can anyone give or minister to another
what they do not have or possess? Absolutely not. Have all who profess to be
Christians have the charism of the priesthood - 'persona Christi'? Absolutely
not. The priesthood was established on Holy Thursday by Me, Jesus Christ, at the
Last Supper. I, Jesus Christ, mandated to the twelve apostles, 'Do this in
commemoration of Me' (Luke 22:19). Here, I instituted the Bread of Life known as
the Eucharist, and the continual sacrifice; and also the new covenant
priesthood. I stated, 'I have not come to destroy the prophets or the Law, but
to fulfill them' (Matt 5:17). Only a priest could offer sacrifices in the Old
Covenant.

It was only the Levites who could become priests (Heb 7:5). In the New
Covenant, only the apostolic House of God can ordain priests under the authority
of Rome. I, Jesus Christ, am the Eternal High Priest and victim to be offered
(Heb 2:17; 3:1). I work in 'persona Christi.' The validly ordained priest here
on earth is the vehicle I use to minister sanctifying grace to the flock and the
validly ordained priest only can offer the continual sacrifice that is the Mass
- where Calvary is represented to the Father in Heaven (which is the New
Covenant Passover: 'Who eats My Body and drinks My Blood has everlasting life
and will be raised up on the last day' (John 6:55) ). This is the Passover from
sin and eternal death.

Read the message from Our Lord. Do you see the Scripture references, Old and New Testament? Ask a question, a civil question. Catholics would be happy to explain.

Why do you want to deny such a gift? God's divine gift of
Himself.
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The Roman Catholic Church is the seat of the Anti-Christ.......so why in hell would I listen to any of their doctrines.

They are the beast that will rise in all nations to persecute and kill those that worship Jesus Christ.

All who don't know Jesus Christ will go after this beast system.

It's the RCC that is deluded in most of their doctrines since they don't value the bible.
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