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Jesus is present in the Holy Eucharist, you can't twist Scripture to mean what you want it to say.

 
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Heaven knows and the latest responses, pride, you gotta get rid of your pride. God has one plan, you are either going
to say yes or no to it.




10/5/07

GOD SPEAKS WILL YOU LISTEN

..."To answer a question for you: All who take the mark of the beast are forever cast into hell. This is what My word states. This will occur because mankind will be warned not to follow Satan and the anti Christ. By rejecting the Warning, you are rejecting God's mercy incurring His divine justice. Never before in history has a generation received such graces. Only at the General Judgment is an ungodly soul aware of his sin committed against My commandments. But the Warning will occur where every soul will experience a preview of their judgment if it had occurred at that instant. Then each soul will be given an opportunity to repent. Mercy will stop for many because all flesh will truly know I exist. After the Warning, by accepting the mark of the beast, you will be condemned to hell because you have rejected My mercy in it's fullest expression. My son, I give you a private prophecy. Share it at My leading. The anti Christ is rising to power so I speak to you. He is hidden until revealed according to My Father's will. Many natural disasters have and will continue to occur. t. You will experience the abomination of Desolation and fierce persecution of My faithful Catholics by, lukewarm Catholics, Protestants who are apostate and the followers of the anti Christ."...Then you will experience the Warning. After the Warning, rejecting My mercy will cause you to take the mark of the beas
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10/5/07

GOD SPEAKS WILL YOU LISTEN

..."To answer a question for you: All who take the mark of the beast are forever cast into hell. This is what My word states. This will occur because mankind will be warned not to follow Satan and the anti Christ. By rejecting the Warning, you are rejecting God's mercy incurring His divine justice. Never before in history has a generation received such graces. Only at the General Judgment is an ungodly soul aware of his sin committed against My commandments. But the Warning will occur where every soul will experience a preview of their judgment if it had occurred at that instant. Then each soul will be given an opportunity to repent. Mercy will stop for many because all flesh will truly know I exist. After the Warning, by accepting the mark of the beast, you will be condemned to hell because you have rejected My mercy in it's fullest expression. My son, I give you a private prophecy. Share it at My leading. The anti Christ is rising to power so I speak to you. He is hidden until revealed according to My Father's will. Many natural disasters have and will continue to occur. t. You will experience the abomination of Desolation and fierce persecution of My faithful Catholics by, lukewarm Catholics, Protestants who are apostate and the followers of the anti Christ."...Then you will experience the Warning. After the Warning, rejecting My mercy will cause you to take the mark of the beast."


God in His mercy is going to show the world, all of us personally the Truth and our lives as He sees them.

Don't be one of three groups He speaks of....after the Great Warning.
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"You will experience the abomination of Desolation and fierce persecution of My faithful Catholics by, lukewarm Catholics, Protestants who are apostate and the followers of the anti Christ....Then you will experience the Warning. After the Warning, rejecting My mercy will cause you to take the mark of the beast."
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And what is the mark of the beast, OP?

I'll lose many readers here who have their opinions about MoB. Lets turn to the Bible for the answer...

The first mention of MoB is in Rev.13. Then the following chapter presents two groups of people, those who have the mark, and those who are God's people.

Rev.14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascends up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.

14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.


The group that does not have the MoB, God's people, keep the 10C and have the "faith of Jesus". Thus that is how to avoid the MoB. It is about worship (also in Rev.13).

What does this have to do with the Roman Catholic Church?

At least three commandments directly clash with Rome. The 1st, about "no other gods", the 2nd, was removed completely (see converts catechism), and the 4th, as Rome changed the day of worship. The 7th day Sabbath is a day to remember creation and the creator once a week. Roman Catholicism is built around sun worship.
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On the forehead, a mark?

Revelation 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

Deuteronomy 6:2,8 That you might fear the LORD your God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command you....And you shall bind them for a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes.

Exodus 13:9 And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the Lord's law may be in thy mouth.

Exodus 31:13,17 Truly My Sabbaths you shall keep: for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations; that you may know that I am the Lord that does sanctify you....It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel for ever.

Isaiah 8:16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.

Hebrews 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;


Ro.6:16 Know you not, that to whom you yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants you are to whom you obey; whether of sin to death, or of obedience to righteousness?

OP, you cannot save all Catholics. You should save yourself first. Then turn this misguided energy to better use.
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The OP/AC is about as far-gone an rc as you might imagine.

Jesus Witnesses that the blind would lead the blind; right into the ditch.

motherchurch has postured for 1600yrs to DENY God.
there is no co-redemptress in form of the vessel/vassal who birthed Christ Jesus.

motherchurch is gearing up to make its previous foray into political persecution look like a kiddie party, complete with pony rides... Might want to read Fox's Book Of Martyrs to get the flavor, or anything on the Spanish Inquisition.

Were rome In Service Unto The Father, the world would surely be much more Christian; yet it is not, so we live in the mire the rcc is complicit in creating.
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And what is the mark of the beast, OP?

I'll lose many readers here who have their opinions about MoB. Lets turn to the Bible for the answer...

The first mention of MoB is in Rev.13. Then the following chapter presents two groups of people, those who have the mark, and those who are God's people.

Rev.14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascends up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.

14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.


The group that does not have the MoB, God's people, keep the 10C and have the "faith of Jesus". Thus that is how to avoid the MoB. It is about worship (also in Rev.13).

What does this have to do with the Roman Catholic Church?

At least three commandments directly clash with Rome. The 1st, about "no other gods", the 2nd, was removed completely (see converts catechism), and the 4th, as Rome changed the day of worship. The 7th day Sabbath is a day to remember creation and the creator once a week. Roman Catholicism is built around sun worship.
[link to toolong.com]

On the forehead, a mark?

Revelation 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

Deuteronomy 6:2,8 That you might fear the LORD your God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command you....And you shall bind them for a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes.

Exodus 13:9 And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the Lord's law may be in thy mouth.

Exodus 31:13,17 Truly My Sabbaths you shall keep: for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations; that you may know that I am the Lord that does sanctify you....It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel for ever.

Isaiah 8:16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.

Hebrews 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;


Ro.6:16 Know you not, that to whom you yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants you are to whom you obey; whether of sin to death, or of obedience to righteousness?

OP, you cannot save all Catholics. You should save yourself first. Then turn this misguided energy to better use.
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That particular cross is known as the cross of St. Peter, who chose to be crucified upside down in deference to Jesus' crucifixion.

It can also be found in the ancient Roman Mamertine Prison, where Peter was held after he was arrested.

This site will give you some information and photos. Although sadly, nothing will stop your hatred and bigotry. There is no website large enough to cure your hypocrisy.

[link to www.rome-tour.co.uk]
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That particular cross is known as the cross of St. Peter, who chose to be crucified upside down in deference to Jesus' crucifixion.

It can also be found in the ancient Roman Mamertine Prison, where Peter was held after he was arrested.

This site will give you some information and photos. Although sadly, nothing will stop your hatred and bigotry. There is no website large enough to cure your hypocrisy.

[link to www.rome-tour.co.uk]
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My post was addressed to Me777.
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^Peter was never in Rome.

Paul was.


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This message was given Protestant Jeff Kingshott a little
over a year ago. He posted it again at openheaven.com
today, in the prophecy section of the forum.

Jeff is upsetting for me, on the same forum he posts his own commentary (re: the OP) denying Our Lord's presence in the Holy Eucharist.

How can this prophetic message of a year ago ever come to be unless we all agree? I am not saying this in meanness either. It will be God's action, (the Great Warning) because hearts are hard to change.

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2/2/11

Message to Jeff Kingshott
Posted: 02/07/2010 at 12:41pm

Supernatural consumation of all my obedient servants is about to congeal together as one and in this oneness great power Shall be released for did I not say there is power in agreement , then watch and see as Babyl many shall come together in one place yet this shall bring great reward not division or segregation for The Oil of Unity shall flow as off of Aaron's beard and this shall create a river of oneness that shall surround the globe and concrete the unity of the Mind of Christ in all my obedient ones as one eternally and true .


A oneness that shall circumnavigate the the Earth


Joshua 2:24

24And they said unto Joshua, Truly the LORD hath delivered into our hands all the land; for even all the inhabitants of the country do faint because of us.

Psalm 133
A Song of Ascents. Of David.
1 Behold, how good and how pleasant it is
For brethren to dwell together in unity!

2 It is like the precious oil upon the head,
Runnin g down on the beard,
The beard of Aaron,
Runnin g down on the edge of his garments.
3 It is like the dew of Hermon,
Descen ding upon the mountains of Zion;
For there the LORD commanded the blessing—
" Life forevermore."
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Are you talking about the SAME Scripture where Jesus says, "Call no man Father"? Hypocrite much?
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THIS EXPLAINS IT ALL
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THIS EXPLAINS IT ALL

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The Roman Church has no biblical autority. The body of believer are the church/bride of Jesus.

Before departing...

Lu.22:16,18 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God. For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.

And we shall look yet again at the text which has nothing to do with the pre existing eucharist...

(John 6:52-63) The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?

Then Jesus said to them, Truly, truly, I say to you, Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh, and drinks my blood, has eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He that eats my flesh, and drinks my blood, dwells in me, and I in him. As the living Father has sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eats me, even he shall live by me. This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eats of this bread shall live for ever. These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.

Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said to them, Does this offend you? What and if you shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? It is the spirit that vivifies; the flesh profits nothing: the words that I speak to you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Even the Jews and also the desciples were confused by what was said. Jesus clarifies in the last passage above.

Eating and drinking is a ritual of works.

Here's the catholic church practice described in the OT...

Jer.7:18 "The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings to other gods, that they may provoke me to anger."

An ancient ritual held over in the corrupt catholic-christianity, just as the vestal virgins became nuns.

Wafer "god"
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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feel free to bow to the Babylonian god-king the "Pope" I will bow my knee to no one but Christ. Ratzinger and his ilk need to repent ><rant
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I thought Santa was god....no, wait, it was the easter bunny.
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God does not condone gay sex with the alter boys. My child would never be left alone with the pope or any of those priests.

There is a reason I feel uneasy around them.
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I checked the thread this evening, many one sentence denials.

Our Lord explains the best and look at the Scripture references. Jesus wants you to believe in His presence in the Holy Eucharist. He says its a divine mystery so you must have faith which we all agree is very pleasing to God. rose


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Prayer Warriors of the Blessed Sacrament

May 6, 2006

I - Jesus the Good Shepherd



Given to Third Person

"To all My little ones, I your God Triune send My love and
thanks for your piety and devotion to your prayerful lives. Without
your supplications, this world would be even more diabolical than it
is at this present time.

I am the Good Shepherd. Yes, I am. But bear in mind I do not
coerce the free wills of mankind. I, as the Good Shepherd, send down
grace from on High. Then it is the responsibility of the individuals
to cooperate with this grace and, what has been provided here on earth
for souls to receive (supernatural grace) is the one, holy, Catholic
and apostolic Church. I said to the apostles "It is given to you to
know the mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven." (Matt. 13: 10-11.)

The Holy Spirit (the tongues of fire) purified and perfected them in
the apostolic body (actually, My body, the Mystical Body of Christ -
the Catholic Church). So, then, the Catholic Church is the seat of
Truth (1 Tim. 3-15) and wisdom regarding the sacred mysteries and
sacraments; and the sacramental grace the souls receive at the Holy
Mass. The continual sacrifice is the sacred mystery spoken of by
Daniel the prophet (Dan. 8: 11-13).

Here is the mystery of the Eucharist. The new covenant Passover that
marks one for eternal life; when Christ the Good Shepherd lays down
His life for His flock (mystically). Calvary becomes alive at the
Mass. The priest offers the Calvary sacrifice, for it never ends. It
is continued and must be offered from sun-up to sun-down around the
world. Can you understand this sacred mystery? Absolutely not. Don't
even try. Just know in faith that it is true. And it can only be
confected by a priest (Heb. 5: 1 & 4). Only priests of apostolic
succession can offer the continual sacrifice.

I, Christ, the Good Shepherd, am the Eternal High Priest
(Heb. 3:1). I work through the apostolic priest to feed My flock.
Those who separate themselves from the Catholic Church will be feeding
on the same food that prodigal son fed on when he left his father's
house (Luke 15:16).

Oh, people, you must trust in the Good Shepherd. I have traced out the
right path for you to follow. All the others will lead to spiritual
failure. Please study the early Church Letters. They portray this path
I have traced out for all mankind. Do not participate in the
abomination of desolation (Matt. 24:15), helping to defeat the
continuous sacrifice offered up at the Holy Mass.

I, the Good Shepherd, have spoken.
I love all.

Jesus"
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OP, you are right the new testament does say that, Protestants are very selective about what they take literally and pass off as allegory.
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LIKE A LAMB BUT SPEAKS LIKE THE DRAGON

11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
[link to kingjbible.com]

THEY SHALL ACCOUNT FOR EVERY WORD THEY SPEAK EVERY PRONOUNCEMENT THEY MAKE

33Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.

36But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
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THE PERSECUTING CHURCH DRUNK ON BLOOD

The woman of Revelation 17 is drunk with the blood of Christian martyrs:

Rev 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

A harlot drunken on blood:

Soul of Christ, sanctify me.
Body of Christ, save me.
Blood of Christ, inebriate me.
Water from the side of Christ, wash me.
...
From the prayer Anima Christi (Soul of Christ).

The prayer Anima Christi can be found on scores of Catholic web sites, and actually asks for drunkenness from the blood of the golden cup. Web site: Anima Christi. [link to www.newadvent.org]

THE PERSECUTING CHURCH DRUNK ON BLOOD

She sheds the blood of the saints and martys of Jesus AND SHE IS DRUNK ON THEIR BLOOD.


The Roman Catholic Church during the "dark ages" is responsible for the persecution deaths of uncounted thousands of Christians who dared to read the Bible, translate the Bible or preach from the Bible or denied the apostate Catholic doctrines or dogma, such as transubstantiation.

That the Roman Catholic church felt compelled to ask for forgiveness for her persecution sins of the past on March 12th, 2000, only serves to further confirm she is the apostate persecuting mother church responsible for the blood of the saints spoken of in Revelation!

The Document: MEMORY AND RECONCILIATION.

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BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU SAY
BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU TEACH


36But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
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The Roman Catholic Church is the seat of the Anti-Christ.......so why in hell would I listen to any of their doctrines.

They are the beast that will rise in all nations to persecute and kill those that worship Jesus Christ.

All who don't know Jesus Christ will go after this beast system.

It's the RCC that is deluded in most of their doctrines since they don't value the bible.
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Sunday, March 13, 2011

Message to Melvin Joseph

"I am truly present in the Eucharist"



Preparation for the Passover

On the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, the disciples approached Jesus and said, "Where do you want us to prepare for you to eat the Passover?" He said, "Go into the city to a certain man and tell him, 'The teacher says, "My appointed time draws near; in your house I shall celebrate the Passover with my disciples."'" The disciples then did as Jesus had ordered, and prepared the Passover. ... While they were eating, Jesus took bread, said the blessing, broke it, and giving it to his disciples said, "Take and eat; this is my body." Then he took a cup, gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you, for this is my blood of the covenant, which will be shed on behalf of many for the forgiveness of sins. ..." Then, after singing a hymn, they went out to the Mount of Olives. (Passage from the Gospel of St. Matthew 26:17-19, 26-28, 30)




"As I bless you today, My brother Joseph Melvin, and all My brothers and sisters spread throughout the countries of the world, I invite you to spend time with Me at the Last Supper. I joined the Apostles in the Upper Room on Holy Thursday in order to institute the Holy Eucharist. Judas was not present during this time. During our Passover meal, I took bread and blessed it and said these words, 'This is My Body, which will be given up for you.' Then I gave the Eucharist to the Apostles. Then I took a cup full of wine, gave thanks, and gave it to them saying, 'Drink from it, all of you for this is the cup of My Blood of the New Covenant. It will be shed for you and for many for the forgiveness of sins.' They all drank from the cup of My Precious Blood.

My dear friends, I instituted the Holy Eucharist as My great gift to you. I am truly present in the Eucharist. I am there with My Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity. I am there in the very same way as I live in heaven today. Believe in this great sacrament and come with a clean heart to receive Me as often as you can. The Eucharist is the greatest gift I could give you. The priests are to celebrate the Eucharist every day including Sunday for you."
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The Catholic Church is the whore . bsflag

A church based on false-doctrine . How dare them tell anyone that we have no authority . Soon God-almighty will raise it to the ground !!!
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OP, I do not practice the eucharist but I would not see it as an anti-Christ thing, even though it is all about cannibalism.

The meaning of Jesus saying "this means my body" is that in days of yore, the King was sacrificed and eaten. I am not making this up, Robert Graves discusses it at length.

Therefore the essence of the last supper is Jesus addressing not just secret volcano-based cannibal worship happening at volcanos south of Judea (Mt Sinai area), but also the additional badness of child sacrifice. Obviously we can see Molech to be the throwing of children into the fire.

THAT is why he had to make this ritual powerful with his words. He way saying, "When you eat this bread, you are eating me." and he was their King so they are eating their King.

NOW you might ask why would I support the continuation of this cannibalistic ritual? Well, I suppose I support it for just the same reason that Jesus instituted it, which is, is makes silly, the dark things of Satan. Jesus was mocking Satan, when he established the last supper. He was creating the lesser evil of mock-cannibalism.

I believe this fact is the reason the communion wafer has mutable power in regards to demons and casting out same. I surmise that the wafer itself acts as a magical circuit whenever it is invoked in the context of Jesus' last supper where he says it means his body. For example, Marion Knox has said that he has cast out MPD/DID 'demons' by using a simple mass and eucharist. Well he is not a priest, yet the emblems work. I think it is due to the reasons I state above, which is that when a demon-possesed or DID/MPD person consumes the eucharist, the demon (the subconscious places) cannot tell the difference, and so it has a spitiual, trans-psychological casting-out affect.

For my personal faith, knowing what I know about the human mind, I do believe in Jesus Christ, but I do not need the darker ritual emblems of the cross (perfect man-child sacrifice) to invoke my faith, nor that of the cannibal ritual (eucharist) to display my faith, but I do that Jesus may have been the masterworker who was behind these rituals, gruesome though they appear to many.

I understand that Jesus may have lived on to have a family, and stepped in the background while the people were given their passion play of crucifixion of someone else. Of course if Jesus' shed blood is key to your faith then the idea that he'd duck the cross causes a deep anger, but this also describes the inherent deepness of the memes and modalities here mentioned. Jesus as such, would know that the people needed their dead King, they needed to feed on his flesh so to speak. Jesus understood how the flock works, and how they had worked in ancient pre-patriarchal times. We can surmise from Jesus' kindness to females, that he saw them as being the ones who bear the brunt of this harsh world, it is also therefore understood why he would then create a ritual where the participants kill the King and eat his flesh. That is the modality of people who feel oppressed.

In any case, when the posessed or DID/MPD person performs the ritual in a spirit of Christlike goodness of heart, I could see how that could cause the demon to come out, or for the bad personality to lose its 'self'. I have observed for myself, as a matter of fact, than when a DID/MPD person has such a moment of re-integration, they are often weakened when they lose that demon or extra alter personality. So it is as if that personality has 'left them'. The eucharist would thereby be a ritual that the subconscious (or the demon if you prefer) understands and is then forced to comply with. Because if you eat the body of the pure King, you would feel remorse, and I think that's why Marion Knox has success with this method, though I do not know if he is a Catholic or not.
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Jesus is present in the Holy Eucharist, you can't twist Scripture to mean what you want it to say.

NOT SO FOR JESUS HIMSELF WAS SAT AT THE TABLE AND BROKE THE BREAD
AND THIS IS WHEN HE SAID THE BREAD IS HIS BODY AND THE WINE HIS BLOOD DO THIS IN REMEBRANCE OF ME AS OFTEN AS YOU EAT THE BREAT AND DRINK THE WINE

ALL THIS HE DID BEFORE HE GAVE UP HIS BODY TO BROKEN

AND THE BREAD THAT JESUS BROKE AND THE WINE HE PASSED ROUND
WAS A HOLY SYMBOL OF HIS SACRIFICE
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He was elluding to the Unleavened Pessach bread and the cup of wine at the Pessach table.


The OP is trying to spread Catholic doctrine which twisted the true meaning of the death of Jesus, and to make null and void His act of Atonement by His death on the cross.

The Catholics say that was not enough for salvation, we need the mass and the eucharist.

They are servants of Satan.
Revelation 1:7 "Behold, He comes with clouds; and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him. Even so, Amen."

Zechariah 12:10 "And I will pour on the house of David, and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look on Me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for Him, as one mourns for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for Him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."
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The Roman Catholic Church is the seat of the Anti-Christ.......so why in hell would I listen to any of their doctrines.

They are the beast that will rise in all nations to persecute and kill those that worship Jesus Christ.

All who don't know Jesus Christ will go after this beast system.

It's the RCC that is deluded in most of their doctrines since they don't value the bible.
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WOA!!!!!
DIDN'T SEE THE UPSIDE DOWN CROSS!!!!!

THAT IS A CLASSIC SATANIST SYMBOL!!!!!!

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Revelation 1:7 "Behold, He comes with clouds; and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him. Even so, Amen."

Zechariah 12:10 "And I will pour on the house of David, and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look on Me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for Him, as one mourns for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for Him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."

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