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Here we are again. God is gently preparing disbelieving
Protestants for the Truth He is going to reveal. Look at
the references to the "Tabernacle" Not Communion with Jesus, Jesus is Communion. Who is present in the "Tabernacle?" Our Lord states discard your man made
traditions. They certainly are man made. From the minds
of men to reject the Holy Eucharist.

And one final, "His manna." The "manna" in the desert is a type, a prefigurement of the Holy Eucharist in the New Covenant.


ELAINE TAVOLACCI

Invitation to Intimacy

March 31, 2011

The Lord says, as you've longed to know My voice; you've longed to know My ways, I now invite you into this place of intimacy. Come now My beloved, let me take you to this place. In this place of intimacy, I will reveal My secrets to you. In this place, you will learn to discern My voice and recognize My leading. Come with Me into this secret place. Come with the innocence of a child and with no agenda of your own. Surrender your will to Me as I welcome you in.

As you come in to this place of honor, enter with reverence. Here you will find the hidden treasures that you have been searching for. Do not come with preconceived notions. Discard of your old mindsets and man made traditions and come in pursuit of My plans and purposes. In this place you will receive favor. In this place I will make ancient mysteries known to you. In this place you will receive wisdom and revelation. This is the place where My Shekinah Glory dwells. You now have access to enter this sacred place because the veil has been torn and I have made provision for you to enter. So come in to this Secret place, this place of intimacy, The Holy of Holies where My Glory dwells says the Lord.


Then He showed me a picture of the Tabernacle:

As we pass through the Outer Courts, we come through the process of cleansing and repentance. We come as living sacrifices, holy and acceptable unto God.

He then showed me how He leads us to the Inner Court which is the Holy Place of His presence. This is where we have communion with Jesus. Our prayer, praise and worship go up before Him as fragrant incense. In this place we keep our lamps burning. He does not want us to stop there, but we are now privileged to come to the next level.

We now have access into the Holy of Holies because the veil has been torn and we are invited to this place by our divine Creator. This is The Most Holy Place; The Kodesh Hakodashim. This is the place where we can venture into deeper depths than we have ever known. We must enter this sacred place with clean hands and a pure heart. We come before the Ark of the Covenant. In the ark are His tablets of stone which symbolizes His Word which is now written in our hearts, His manna which symbolizes His provision for us, and Aaron's rod that budded symbolizing that He has the power to bring life from something that is dead. The Mercy seat which we no longer have to sacrifice on, because Jesus has been made a living sacrifice for us by His atoning blood.

Leviticus 17:11
Hebrews 9:19 - 28

Matthew 27:51
Then, behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth quaked, and the rocks were split,

Hebrews 10:19-22
Therefore, brothers, since we have confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus, by a new and living way opened for us through the curtain, that is, his body ...let us draw near to God with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith.
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First, you have no authority and second you ignore Scripture and third, you conflict with Christian history.

A false prophet gives Scripture references to the supposed message and adds his personal opinion to every verse! So sad, doesn't make it true.

Example, one of his nonsensical comments.


"17For we [no matter how] numerous we are, are one body, because we all partake of the one Bread [the One Whom the communion bread represents]."


He can't be specific...so he says numerous and leaves you
hanging. Numerous what? "Numerous" being the thousands, Protestant sects.


+ + + + +


Your going to see(discern) these things happen periodically but not to upset you but rather to uproot and teardown those in disgrace .

So let go of the old and hang onto the new \o/ for I AM a God that calms the troubled waters and all is laid open before Me namely the true intent of the heart that none may say to Me " Lord , Lord ! I gave, I spent , I gathered and I suffered " ?!

Yes, I reply but for your own kingdom of vanity " the cup of demons " and not My kingdom for you forsake those I sent to you when you called upon Me and rather received the lies the messengers of satan showed you in spite and deceit twisting the truth that guile might feed the root of pride and vanity masquerading as My Bride !

There is only one Kingdom and Power that glorifies Me and that are first Holy then Virtuous delivered through true humility dressed in adoration for their Savior and King wearing The Heart of The Father(seven eyes looking to and fro) on their wellspring ! ! !



Exodus 28:29-30 (Amplified Bible)

29So Aaron shall bear the names of the sons of Israel in the breastplate of judgment upon his heart when he goes into the Holy Place, to bring them in continual remembrance before the Lord.

30In the breastplate of judgment you shall put the Urim and the Thummim [unspecified articles used when the high priest asked God's counsel for all Israel]; they shall be upon Aaron's heart when he goes in before the Lord, and Aaron shall bear the judgment (rights, judicial decisions) of the Israelites upon his heart before the Lord continually.
1 Corinthians 2:15 (Amplified Bible)

15But the spiritual man tries all things [he examines, investigates, inquires into, questions, and discerns all things], yet is himself to be put on trial and judged by no one [he can read the meaning of everything, but no one can properly discern or appraise or get an insight into him].

1 Corinthians 10:14-22 (Amplified Bible)

14Therefore, my dearly beloved, shun (keep clear away from, avoid by flight if need be) any sort of idolatry (of loving or venerating anything more than God).

15I am speaking as to intelligent (sensible) men. Think over and make up your minds [for yourselves] about what I say. [I appeal to your reason and your discernment in these matters.]

16The cup of blessing [of wine at the Lord's Supper] upon which we ask [God's] blessing, does it not mean [that in drinking it] we participate in and share a fellowship (a communion) in the blood of Christ (the Messiah)? The bread which we break, does it not mean [that in eating it] we participate in and share a fellowship (a communion) in the body of Christ?

17For we [no matter how] numerous we are, are one body, because we all partake of the one Bread [the One Whom the communion bread represents].

18Consider those [physically] people of Israel. Are not those who eat the sacrifices partners of the altar [united in their worship of the same God]?

19What do I imply then? That food offered to idols is [intrinsically changed by the fact and amounts to] anything or that an idol itself is a [living] thing?

20No, I am suggesting that what the pagans sacrifice they offer [in effect] to demons (to evil spiritual powers) and not to God [at all]. I do not want you to fellowship and be partners with diabolical spirits [by eating at their feasts].

21You cannot drink the Lord's cup and the demons' cup. You cannot partake of the Lord's table and the demons' table.

22Shall we thus provoke the Lord to jealousy and anger and indignation? Are we stronger than He [that we should defy Him]?

Psalm 103
[A Psalm] of David.

1BLESS (AFFECTIONATELY, gratefully praise) the Lord, O my soul; and all that is [deepest] within me, bless His holy name!

2Bless (affectionately, gratefully praise) the Lord, O my soul, and forget not [one of] all His benefits--

3Who forgives [every one of] all your iniquities, Who heals [each one of] all your diseases,

4Who redeems your life from the pit and corruption, Who beautifies, dignifies, and crowns you with loving-kindness and tender mercy;

5Who satisfies your mouth [your necessity and desire at your personal age and situation] with good so that your youth, renewed, is like the eagle's [strong, overcoming, soaring]!

6The Lord executes righteousness and justice [not for me only, but] for all who are oppressed.

7He made known His ways [of righteousness and justice] to Moses, His acts to the children of Israel.

8The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger and plenteous in mercy and loving-kindness.

9He will not always chide or be contending, neither will He keep His anger forever or hold a grudge.

10He has not dealt with us after our sins nor rewarded us according to our iniquities.

11For as the heavens are high above the earth, so great are His mercy and loving-kindness toward those who reverently and worshipfully fear Him.

12As far as the east is from the west, so far has He removed our transgressions from us.

13As a father loves and pities his children, so the Lord loves and pities those who fear Him [with reverence, worship, and awe].

14For He knows our frame, He [earnestly] remembers and imprints [on His heart] that we are dust.

15As for man, his days are as grass; as a flower of the field, so he flourishes.

16For the wind passes over it and it is gone, and its place shall know it no more.

17But the mercy and loving-kindness of the Lord are from everlasting to everlasting upon those who reverently and worshipfully fear Him, and His righteousness is to children's children--

18To such as keep His covenant [hearing, receiving, loving, and obeying it] and to those who [earnestly] remember His commandments to do them [imprinting them on their hearts].



Cross references:

1. 1 Corinthians 10:18 : Lev 7:6
2. 1 Corinthians 10:20 : Deut 32:17
3. 1 Corinthians 10:22 : Deut 32:21; Eccl 6:10; Isa 45:9

www.openheaven.com prophecy forum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1214025


Friend, the scriptures have been twisted from the beginning! Jesus wrote NOTHING as far as we know, no one know who the real gospel writers were as there are no records linking to the original writers. AND there are and at the time of the collation, NO original scripts in circulation! Only copies of copies of copies!

I you wish to take the scripture word for word, that's your prerogative and HOW YOU understand that scripture is also up to you but you have NO authority not power t o tell others what it means or what to believe!
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First, you have no authority and second you ignore Scripture and third, you conflict with Christian history.

A false prophet gives Scripture references to the supposed message and adds his personal opinion to every verse! So sad, doesn't make it true.

Example, one of his nonsensical comments.


"17For we [no matter how] numerous we are, are one body, because we all partake of the one Bread [the One Whom the communion bread represents]."


He can't be specific...so he says numerous and leaves you
hanging. Numerous what? "Numerous" being the thousands, Protestant sects.


+ + + + +


Your going to see(discern) these things happen periodically but not to upset you but rather to uproot and teardown those in disgrace .

So let go of the old and hang onto the new \o/ for I AM a God that calms the troubled waters and all is laid open before Me namely the true intent of the heart that none may say to Me " Lord , Lord ! I gave, I spent , I gathered and I suffered " ?!

Yes, I reply but for your own kingdom of vanity " the cup of demons " and not My kingdom for you forsake those I sent to you when you called upon Me and rather received the lies the messengers of satan showed you in spite and deceit twisting the truth that guile might feed the root of pride and vanity masquerading as My Bride !

There is only one Kingdom and Power that glorifies Me and that are first Holy then Virtuous delivered through true humility dressed in adoration for their Savior and King wearing The Heart of The Father(seven eyes looking to and fro) on their wellspring ! ! !



Exodus 28:29-30 (Amplified Bible)

29So Aaron shall bear the names of the sons of Israel in the breastplate of judgment upon his heart when he goes into the Holy Place, to bring them in continual remembrance before the Lord.

30In the breastplate of judgment you shall put the Urim and the Thummim [unspecified articles used when the high priest asked God's counsel for all Israel]; they shall be upon Aaron's heart when he goes in before the Lord, and Aaron shall bear the judgment (rights, judicial decisions) of the Israelites upon his heart before the Lord continually.
1 Corinthians 2:15 (Amplified Bible)

15But the spiritual man tries all things [he examines, investigates, inquires into, questions, and discerns all things], yet is himself to be put on trial and judged by no one [he can read the meaning of everything, but no one can properly discern or appraise or get an insight into him].

1 Corinthians 10:14-22 (Amplified Bible)

14Therefore, my dearly beloved, shun (keep clear away from, avoid by flight if need be) any sort of idolatry (of loving or venerating anything more than God).

15I am speaking as to intelligent (sensible) men. Think over and make up your minds [for yourselves] about what I say. [I appeal to your reason and your discernment in these matters.]

16The cup of blessing [of wine at the Lord's Supper] upon which we ask [God's] blessing, does it not mean [that in drinking it] we participate in and share a fellowship (a communion) in the blood of Christ (the Messiah)? The bread which we break, does it not mean [that in eating it] we participate in and share a fellowship (a communion) in the body of Christ?

17For we [no matter how] numerous we are, are one body, because we all partake of the one Bread [the One Whom the communion bread represents].

18Consider those [physically] people of Israel. Are not those who eat the sacrifices partners of the altar [united in their worship of the same God]?

19What do I imply then? That food offered to idols is [intrinsically changed by the fact and amounts to] anything or that an idol itself is a [living] thing?

20No, I am suggesting that what the pagans sacrifice they offer [in effect] to demons (to evil spiritual powers) and not to God [at all]. I do not want you to fellowship and be partners with diabolical spirits [by eating at their feasts].

21You cannot drink the Lord's cup and the demons' cup. You cannot partake of the Lord's table and the demons' table.

22Shall we thus provoke the Lord to jealousy and anger and indignation? Are we stronger than He [that we should defy Him]?

Psalm 103
[A Psalm] of David.

1BLESS (AFFECTIONATELY, gratefully praise) the Lord, O my soul; and all that is [deepest] within me, bless His holy name!

2Bless (affectionately, gratefully praise) the Lord, O my soul, and forget not [one of] all His benefits--

3Who forgives [every one of] all your iniquities, Who heals [each one of] all your diseases,

4Who redeems your life from the pit and corruption, Who beautifies, dignifies, and crowns you with loving-kindness and tender mercy;

5Who satisfies your mouth [your necessity and desire at your personal age and situation] with good so that your youth, renewed, is like the eagle's [strong, overcoming, soaring]!

6The Lord executes righteousness and justice [not for me only, but] for all who are oppressed.

7He made known His ways [of righteousness and justice] to Moses, His acts to the children of Israel.

8The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger and plenteous in mercy and loving-kindness.

9He will not always chide or be contending, neither will He keep His anger forever or hold a grudge.

10He has not dealt with us after our sins nor rewarded us according to our iniquities.

11For as the heavens are high above the earth, so great are His mercy and loving-kindness toward those who reverently and worshipfully fear Him.

12As far as the east is from the west, so far has He removed our transgressions from us.

13As a father loves and pities his children, so the Lord loves and pities those who fear Him [with reverence, worship, and awe].

14For He knows our frame, He [earnestly] remembers and imprints [on His heart] that we are dust.

15As for man, his days are as grass; as a flower of the field, so he flourishes.

16For the wind passes over it and it is gone, and its place shall know it no more.

17But the mercy and loving-kindness of the Lord are from everlasting to everlasting upon those who reverently and worshipfully fear Him, and His righteousness is to children's children--

18To such as keep His covenant [hearing, receiving, loving, and obeying it] and to those who [earnestly] remember His commandments to do them [imprinting them on their hearts].



Cross references:

1. 1 Corinthians 10:18 : Lev 7:6
2. 1 Corinthians 10:20 : Deut 32:17
3. 1 Corinthians 10:22 : Deut 32:21; Eccl 6:10; Isa 45:9

www.openheaven.com prophecy forum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1214025


Friend, the scriptures have been twisted from the beginning! Jesus wrote NOTHING as far as we know, no one know who the real gospel writers were as there are no records linking to the original writers. AND there are and at the time of the collation, NO original scripts in circulation! Only copies of copies of copies!

I you wish to take the scripture word for word, that's your prerogative and HOW YOU understand that scripture is also up to you but you have NO authority not power t o tell others what it means or what to believe!
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Hi and blessings,

God is not like that, you are mistaken. the Apostles revealed God's New Covenant revelations from Our Lord. ORALLY first, then the written was complied in the 4th century. It's both, oral and written teachings passed down to us. St. Jerome translated the original manuscripts in to Latin after Pope Damasus decided which writings were divine. He had the authority, God gave it to him as He did
Peter the first Pope.

Authority ~~

Exactly. Go a little further. Protestantism denied the
authority Jesus gave His Church so we can know the plan,
God's revelation, all of it.

Pride, Protestants became their own authority. Nuts, I
know and look at the fruit. 38,000 sects all preaching
something different.

God is going to show each person on the earth, the true
Church, non-Christians included. Get ready for the Great
Warning. You won't be mistaken, you will see your life
in review like an NDE type of experience.
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Hi and blessings,

God is not like that, you are mistaken. the Apostles revealed God's New Covenant revelations from Our Lord. ORALLY first, then the written was complied in the 4th century. It's both, oral and written teachings passed down to us. St. Jerome translated the original manuscripts in to Latin after Pope Damasus decided which writings were divine. He had the authority, God gave it to him as He did
Peter the first Pope.

Authority ~~

Exactly. Go a little further. Protestantism denied the
authority Jesus gave His Church so we can know the plan,
God's revelation, all of it.

Pride, Protestants became their own authority. Nuts, I
know and look at the fruit. 38,000 sects all preaching
something different.

God is going to show each person on the earth, the true
Church, non-Christians included. Get ready for the Great
Warning. You won't be mistaken, you will see your life
in review like an NDE type of experience.
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Blessings to you as well friend!

If you fully understood the teachings of the Christ, you would know that He supported NO religion! His Church being a fellowship of the spirit of those who lived the Will of God!

His true Church is not a religion but rather a fellowship of spirit which can be found amongst ALL mankind.
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Our Lord in the prophetic often speaks to Our brothers and
sisters in Christ about the Bride of Christ. Protestants
relate to the Bride of Christ.

Jesus is gently preparing them to accept something they reject. His presence in the Holy Eucharist.

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message to Pamela



Oh, My beautiful bride

I desire that you waltz with Me on the waters. I desire that you come into the wedding chambers and commune with me. For I have made a blood covenant between you and Me. I have shed My own blood for the remission of your sins to make you a bride without spot or wrinkle. I desire that you put on the wedding garments that I have made for you. For I have knitted a white wedding garment from My yarn of righteousness. I asked that you cloth yourself with my righteousness My bride, My darling, so that I can bring you into the throne room of our Father. You must appear before Him in My righteousness or He will not accept you to be My bride. He will not bless the Marriage until you are clothed in My righteousness. Making your own wedding garments will not do for your own righteousness can not save you but Mine can. So put on your dress that I have tailor made for you, so that we can come before the Father without shame or guilt so that we can receive His blessings for the marriage. For when the bride lets Me dress her in My righteousness then the Father will say to Me," Son go get your bride and bring My people home to prepare for the wedding of the lamb." Do not come before Him in your own righteousness, My bride, but come to Him in My righteousness. How do you come to Him in your own righteousness? By thinking your good works will make Him proud of you. He loves you with an everlasting love, not by your goodness, for that does not please Him either. You are My bride, clothed in white, act like a bride and not a beggar. Put on My righteousness and the Father and I will see you as Me. Come to Him as a princess asking the king for a gift and the Father will give you what ever you ask in My name. Be like Esther, who prepared herself to meet the king, though prayer and fasting. What is fasting but to lay down self and seek Me? Fasting is not so much as going without anything to eat, but not feeding the flesh worldly things. Fasting worldly things and feeding on Spiritual things. You are what you eat. Eat Me, the bread of life and you will become more like Me. When you do this My bride then I’ll come back for a bride without spot or wrinkle. For the spots and wrinkles are your own righteousness and unworthiness toward yourself. God does not feel the same way about you when you feel unworthy about yourself. He sees you as special and so do I. I love you, My bride. I can not wait for the wedding day and the honeymoon, which is praise, worship, and eternity of love and one accord.

Love your Prince Charming, and your night in shining armor,

Jesus
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canabals and blood thursty christians.... blood ritual... the demonic ways...



so very gross....
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The sacred Rays of ruby and white are present if you want them to be. That is all.

Otherwise it is cannibalistic.
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canabals and blood thursty christians.... blood ritual... the demonic ways...



so very gross....
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Hi,

I want to help you understand. The appearance of the bread and wine don't change, they remain the same but the substance does. The bread and wine become Jesus, His body, blood soul and divinity. The risen presence of Christ. Your comment saying it is cannibalism isn't true.

This is God's plan, His desire. You can't keep saying no.
The Protestant messengers are hearing these words from
Heaven, read the bolded.

Faith is so important, accepting this gift of God in Us, even
though we don't see a change! We are taking God's Word.
Jesus said it many times in the Gospel. Recognize he Manna in the desert is a 'type' prefiguring the Holy Eucharist.
One reference, there are many in John 6, it would John 6:54.

God is going to show you personally at the time of the Great Warning.
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what happens if they give the eucharist at the same time, one in rome, and one in new york. can he be in two places at the same time? laugh
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Jesus said you have no life in you if you don't receive His
body, blood, soul and divinity in the Holy Eucharist.

John 6:54.

Our Lord means the very grace of His presence in You. The greatest means to God in you.

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I am present in the Eucharist despite the misinterpretation of My Promise

Thursday 14th April 2011

My dearly beloved daughter do not worry you are improving in the way you are setting time aside in prayer to Me. Now it is important that man understands that in order to come closer to My heart he must understand the need to receive the sacrament of the most Holy Eucharist.

Many people, including other Christian groups deny My real presence in the Eucharist. Why they have decide to deny the promises I made at My last supper, where I promised I would give My flesh and blood as food and nourishment for your souls is unclear. What is clear is that the miracle of the Holy Eucharist, present in all tabernacles all over the world exists today and is there to fill your poor undernourished and empty souls with My presence. This presence will strengthen you in ways that were you to miss receiving Me, once you get used to this, you will feel lost.

Many Christians ignore one of the most fundamental promises I made during My Crucifixtion where I would be present in bread and wine and leave a permanent mark to help nourish souls. Too much human reasoning has meant that I have been rejected by even well meaning Christians. These same Christians cannot receive the Holy Eucharist in its true form. The most Holy Eucharist was given to you all as a great gift for your redemption and salvation. By rejecting the fact that I am present means that you are forfeiting special graces which are part of a pact to bring Me even closer into your hearts. Remember when I died for you it was to lead you to towards eternal life and salvation. Receive Me as the living presence and your souls will alight in ways you would not have believed possible. Turn back to receiving My Body and Blood. Let Me remove your doubts. This is one of the biggest mistakes Christians have made by denying me entry to their souls in this way. It greatly offends My Eternal Father because of the sacrifice involved to save your. Let Me bring light and nourishment into your lives. You will be more inclined to accept the truth of My teaching after The Warning takes place.

Remember what I promised during My last supper that when you take the bread and wine it will become for you My Body and My Blood. Any other interpretation has been distorted by human logic and reasoning. Now understand and accept the truth.

Your loving Saviour Jesus Christ
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Here we are again. God is gently preparing disbelieving
Protestants for the Truth He is going to reveal. Look at
the references to the "Tabernacle" Not Communion with Jesus, Jesus is Communion. Who is present in the "Tabernacle?" Our Lord states discard your man made
traditions. They certainly are man made. From the minds
of men to reject the Holy Eucharist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1309474


You pretend that you can divide the Church into Protestants and the Roman Catholic Church. But you know that isn't true. What about the Orthodox Church?

The Orthodox Church has existed since the beginning. The Orthodox Church is the catholic, holy, and apostolic church.

The Roman Catholic Church split off from the Orthodox Church, because the Orthodox Church refused to accept the changes made by the Roman Catholic Church. You cannot deny this, because Cardinal Ratzinger wrote it in a book, and he is now your pope.


Rome must not require more from the East with respect to the doctrine of primacy than had been formulated and was lived in the first millennium. Reunion could take place in this context if, on the one hand, the East would cease to oppose as heretical the developments that took place in the West in the second millennium and would accept the Catholic Church as legitimate and orthodox in the form she had acquired in the course of that development, while, on the other hand, the West would recognize the Church of the East as orthodox and legitimate in the form she has always had. -- Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, "Principles of Catholic Theology"

* The Orthodox Church is unchanged since the beginning

* The Roman Catholic Church made various changes

* The Orthodox Church opposed those changes as heretical

* The Orthodox Church is orthodox and legitimate

You decry Protestants for being a schism from the Roman Catholic Church. This is hypocritical, since the Roman Catholic Church is a schism from the Orthodox Church.

Even today, Roman Catholic Church members are complaining about various changes that the RCC makes. For example, Mel Gibson doesn't like the new Mass, and has taken steps to keep the old Mass going. Are you going to decry Mel Gibson as a heretic and schismatic for that?

Do you think that everybody should accept any change the RCC hierarchy makes? Do you think that Tradionalist Catholics are heretics?


"Gibson shares many beliefs of the Traditionalist Catholic movement. This sect rejects some or all reforms started by the Second Vatican Council in the 1960s.

Perhaps the biggest change made by Vatican II was to revise the mass ritual and discontinue performing it in Latin. Traditionalist Catholic groups seem to revere the Latin mass and believe the sacrifice of Christ on the cross is more important than Christ's resurrection, which may explain the gory aspects of Gibson's movie."

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I am not Catholic so help me understand, if the Eucharist is literally taking in the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ then why is must the Eucharist be repeated every Sunday? If that is so I would think it would be more like a Baptism, a onetime ceremony of accepting Christ. Should we beleave he leaves the body after a few days..what I am asking is what is the point of doing it repeatedly?
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Yes you can. People do it all the time. Sometimes, for better.
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What a crock of shit !!!

No point pointing out that these wafer worshiping people are following paganism.

My guess is there is some satanic power in these masses these people go to. Catholics don't read the same bible that the was translated from the original texts.

Some people are fore-ordained to this deception.

They won't face up to the fact even when the anti-christ (who will spring up from the catholic church) destroys the same catholic church with fire.

Some just can't come out of the great whore...it is their destiny to be destroyed. Sad...but true.
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Yeah! Only the Pope can do that.
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Ratslinger?

Jesus never existed. Christianity is a fabrication, a fiction. It is for the weak minded and the coward, who can't face up to his own mortality. Most people would take the deal that Christianity offers, but the intelligent realize that if it seems to good to be true, it is.

There is no free ride, and giving your soul to jesus is the same as giving it to the devil, because neither exist. The real creator does not bargain for your soul, nor is there any need to.
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First, you have no authority and second you ignore Scripture and third, you conflict with Christian history.

A false prophet gives Scripture references to the supposed message and adds his personal opinion to every verse! So sad, doesn't make it true.

Example, one of his nonsensical comments.


"17For we [no matter how] numerous we are, are one body, because we all partake of the one Bread [the One Whom the communion bread represents]."


He can't be specific...so he says numerous and leaves you
hanging. Numerous what? "Numerous" being the thousands, Protestant sects.


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Your going to see(discern) these things happen periodically but not to upset you but rather to uproot and teardown those in disgrace .

So let go of the old and hang onto the new \o/ for I AM a God that calms the troubled waters and all is laid open before Me namely the true intent of the heart that none may say to Me " Lord , Lord ! I gave, I spent , I gathered and I suffered " ?!

Yes, I reply but for your own kingdom of vanity " the cup of demons " and not My kingdom for you forsake those I sent to you when you called upon Me and rather received the lies the messengers of satan showed you in spite and deceit twisting the truth that guile might feed the root of pride and vanity masquerading as My Bride !

There is only one Kingdom and Power that glorifies Me and that are first Holy then Virtuous delivered through true humility dressed in adoration for their Savior and King wearing The Heart of The Father(seven eyes looking to and fro) on their wellspring ! ! !



Exodus 28:29-30 (Amplified Bible)

29So Aaron shall bear the names of the sons of Israel in the breastplate of judgment upon his heart when he goes into the Holy Place, to bring them in continual remembrance before the Lord.

30In the breastplate of judgment you shall put the Urim and the Thummim [unspecified articles used when the high priest asked God's counsel for all Israel]; they shall be upon Aaron's heart when he goes in before the Lord, and Aaron shall bear the judgment (rights, judicial decisions) of the Israelites upon his heart before the Lord continually.
1 Corinthians 2:15 (Amplified Bible)

15But the spiritual man tries all things [he examines, investigates, inquires into, questions, and discerns all things], yet is himself to be put on trial and judged by no one [he can read the meaning of everything, but no one can properly discern or appraise or get an insight into him].

1 Corinthians 10:14-22 (Amplified Bible)

14Therefore, my dearly beloved, shun (keep clear away from, avoid by flight if need be) any sort of idolatry (of loving or venerating anything more than God).

15I am speaking as to intelligent (sensible) men. Think over and make up your minds [for yourselves] about what I say. [I appeal to your reason and your discernment in these matters.]

16The cup of blessing [of wine at the Lord's Supper] upon which we ask [God's] blessing, does it not mean [that in drinking it] we participate in and share a fellowship (a communion) in the blood of Christ (the Messiah)? The bread which we break, does it not mean [that in eating it] we participate in and share a fellowship (a communion) in the body of Christ?

17For we [no matter how] numerous we are, are one body, because we all partake of the one Bread [the One Whom the communion bread represents].

18Consider those [physically] people of Israel. Are not those who eat the sacrifices partners of the altar [united in their worship of the same God]?

19What do I imply then? That food offered to idols is [intrinsically changed by the fact and amounts to] anything or that an idol itself is a [living] thing?

20No, I am suggesting that what the pagans sacrifice they offer [in effect] to demons (to evil spiritual powers) and not to God [at all]. I do not want you to fellowship and be partners with diabolical spirits [by eating at their feasts].

21You cannot drink the Lord's cup and the demons' cup. You cannot partake of the Lord's table and the demons' table.

22Shall we thus provoke the Lord to jealousy and anger and indignation? Are we stronger than He [that we should defy Him]?

Psalm 103
[A Psalm] of David.

1BLESS (AFFECTIONATELY, gratefully praise) the Lord, O my soul; and all that is [deepest] within me, bless His holy name!

2Bless (affectionately, gratefully praise) the Lord, O my soul, and forget not [one of] all His benefits--

3Who forgives [every one of] all your iniquities, Who heals [each one of] all your diseases,

4Who redeems your life from the pit and corruption, Who beautifies, dignifies, and crowns you with loving-kindness and tender mercy;

5Who satisfies your mouth [your necessity and desire at your personal age and situation] with good so that your youth, renewed, is like the eagle's [strong, overcoming, soaring]!

6The Lord executes righteousness and justice [not for me only, but] for all who are oppressed.

7He made known His ways [of righteousness and justice] to Moses, His acts to the children of Israel.

8The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger and plenteous in mercy and loving-kindness.

9He will not always chide or be contending, neither will He keep His anger forever or hold a grudge.

10He has not dealt with us after our sins nor rewarded us according to our iniquities.

11For as the heavens are high above the earth, so great are His mercy and loving-kindness toward those who reverently and worshipfully fear Him.

12As far as the east is from the west, so far has He removed our transgressions from us.

13As a father loves and pities his children, so the Lord loves and pities those who fear Him [with reverence, worship, and awe].

14For He knows our frame, He [earnestly] remembers and imprints [on His heart] that we are dust.

15As for man, his days are as grass; as a flower of the field, so he flourishes.

16For the wind passes over it and it is gone, and its place shall know it no more.

17But the mercy and loving-kindness of the Lord are from everlasting to everlasting upon those who reverently and worshipfully fear Him, and His righteousness is to children's children--

18To such as keep His covenant [hearing, receiving, loving, and obeying it] and to those who [earnestly] remember His commandments to do them [imprinting them on their hearts].



Cross references:

1. 1 Corinthians 10:18 : Lev 7:6
2. 1 Corinthians 10:20 : Deut 32:17
3. 1 Corinthians 10:22 : Deut 32:21; Eccl 6:10; Isa 45:9

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Firstly..you are a fuckhead.

And secondly..who gives a fuck!

Go and fuck some altar boys or something ya stupid catholic wanker.

Isnt that what your "Holy fathers" do best?
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is the OP serious, I thought we pretty much have showed the world the blasphamies of the Catholic Church. I would much rather have the Holy Spirit convict me everyday in remembrance of the body of christ that was destroyed and rose on the first day of salvation than bread crumbs and wine.

Jesus was obviously trying to make a point as parable with bread and wine. We all take from the same body of hope we all drink from the same cup of faith when we remember that Jesus is Love.
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The term - 'The Holy Eucharist' is not biblical! Neither is the term - 'Holy Commnunion' and neither is Rapture! These are all manmade constructs.
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I am not Catholic so help me understand, if the Eucharist is literally taking in the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ then why is must the Eucharist be repeated every Sunday? If that is so I would think it would be more like a Baptism, a onetime ceremony of accepting Christ. Should we beleave he leaves the body after a few days..what I am asking is what is the point of doing it repeatedly?
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Ac 12866..,

It is all of Jesus, our risen Lord, sacramentally present,
His body, blood, soul and divinity in the sacred consecrated
host. Why it is a mystery to us, God's gift of Himself in the Eucharist. God wants you to believe with faith.

About Baptism. The grace of Baptism, a person receives God Himself into their souls for the first time. This is what Jesus means when He used the term "born again." Everyone is born with "original sin", Baptism removes original sin. You receive the grace of Baptism one time only but the grace of Our Lord's presence in the Holy Eucharist, we can receive daily if you wish at Mass and on Sunday. Keep holy the Lord's Day, Catholics are obliged to attend Mass on
Sunday.

Christ's presence is there in the consecrated host until
one consumes the host. The presence of Christ in the
Eucharist continues as long as the Eucharistic species
subsists. See Paragraph 1377 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church:

1377 The Eucharistic presence of Christ begins at the moment of the consecration and endures as long as the Eucharistic species subsist. Christ is present whole and entire in each of the species and whole and entire in each of their parts, in such a way that the breaking of the bread does not divide Christ.207

#207 - Council of Trent DS1641

You go repeatedly to receive the grace, the fruit of the
Holy Eucharist.

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What are the fruits of Holy Communion?

Holy Communion increases our union with Christ and with his Church. It preserves and renews the life of grace received at Baptism and Confirmation and makes us grow in love for our neighbor. It strengthens us in charity, wipes away venial sins and preserves us from mortal sin in the future.

Why is the Eucharist a “pledge of future glory”?

The Eucharist is a pledge of future glory because it fills us with every grace and heavenly blessing. It fortifies us for our pilgrimage in this life and makes us long for eternal life. It unites us already to Christ seated at the right hand of the Father, to the Church in heaven and to the Blessed Virgin and all the saints.
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The term - 'The Holy Eucharist' is not biblical! Neither is the term - 'Holy Commnunion' and neither is Rapture! These are all manmade constructs.
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Hi Ac 13381..,

First I must share, neither is "Bible Alone", Sola Scriptura
written in Scripture. "Sola Scriptura" came from Martin Luther's mind not from God. Luther had to come up with something besides the Church to be his authority. Foolish
man, the Bible came from the Church, it is a Catholic book.

The Eucharist, Holy Communion, those terms for the same, the body and blood, soul and divinity of Our Lord came a little later. In the Bible, the Eucharist is referred to as the "breaking of the bread" or "break bread." Our Lord in some verses referred to the Eucharist as "bread." I would have to check in the Gospel.

Ah, here are a few references.



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Luke 24:35
And they told what things were done in the way; and how they knew him in the breaking of the bread.


Acts Of Apostles 2:42
And they were persevering in the doctrine of the apostles, and in the communication of the breaking of bread, and in prayers.


Acts Of Apostles 2:46
And continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they took their meat with gladness and simplicity of heart;



Acts Of Apostles 20:7
And on the first day of the week, when we were assembled to break bread, Paul discoursed with them, being to depart on the morrow: and he continued his speech until midnight.



John 6:52
If any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever; and the bread that I will give, is my flesh, for the life of the world.


John 6:50
This is the bread which cometh down from heaven; that if any man eat of it, he may not die.
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You can post a thousand pages of your foolishness and you'll still be wrong. Jesus meant it figuratively, not literally. The bread and wine are only symbols of His flesh and blood. They do not actually become flesh and blood, nor were they ever intended to. Catholics are daft.
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Where does it say in Scripture Jesus said the "bread and
wine" are a symbol?

You're cancelled, you can't provide it.

Protestantism can't convect the Eucharist, they reject the
Church and the priesthood. What else are they left to say.

Read the first Christians quotes about Our Lord's words,
"This is My body."

Why? When you can receive God Himself, do you accept so
little? Because...you would have to change, but oh how I
wish and pray every Protestant will.

You can become Roman Catholic, at least, before the Great
Warning...have the desire. Read Catholic writings, Catholic
sites, Catholic books...a Catholic Bible.



I have come to take off the blinders and see the truth also. You cannot mince words....and you are correct in your interpretation of what the Lord God. Jesus Christ said. Interjecting words is a no-no. We are not to do this as it changes the total meaning. I believe in the true presence of Christ in the Holy Eurchrist. I am catholic and I understand what you are saying totally.
However, not all are to be given the beatific vision when the time comes for us to go before our God. It is a decision as to whether one wants to "see" and understand, or remain in the darkness. I have also come to understand that not all are going to accept this truth as the rebellion is great and many rebel for the sheer "coolness" it seems to provide in these end times.
If people would but realize that we have been pawns in satan's games and it is "he" who wants you not to be given your reward of the Great Eternity with God and all the blesseds who will spend eternity in such joy we can only imagine and read others accounts who have been given visions for us to have to understand that this is your life in eternity we are waging.
I would rather err on the side of God, than to err on the side of death.
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Hello Angel Helper,

Thank you, I'll certainly read it. My Ac number changes but
I am the OP.



may the Two Hearts keep you safe,



Mary
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The term - 'The Holy Eucharist' is not biblical! Neither is the term - 'Holy Commnunion' and neither is Rapture! These are all manmade constructs.
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Thank you Taylor Marshall, an excerpt from his blog. He
use to be an Episcopal priest. And he writes much about
Judaism, the roots of Roman Catholicism. 57 A.D., pretty
early. ohyeah

Taylor Marshall's blog, search using his name and Canterbury Tales

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The following is excerpted from my new book: The Catholic Perspective on Paul, due out in Fall 2010.

What Does Eucharist Mean?

..."Paul’s doctrine of the believer’s participation in Christ finds its high point in the Apostle’s doctrine of the Eucharist, which he called “the Supper of the Lord” (1 Cor 11:20) or “the Breaking of the Bread” (Acts 20:7). Some time before a.d. 100, the ritual of the Lord’s Supper came to be known as the Eucharist. We find the term Eucharist being applied to the Lord’s Supper in the early late first-century Christian document, the Didache: “Now as regards the Eucharist, give thanks after this manner…”[1] There are two reasons for why the Lord’s Supper came to be known as the Eucharist. The first is that the Greek word eucharistia means “giving thanks.” The earliest use of eucharistia in the context of the Lord’s Supper is from the writings of Saint Paul. Paul uses a Greek form of the word eucharistia in 1 Cor 11:24 when he describes how the Lord’s Supper was celebrated:

And when he had given thanks (Greek: eucharistésas or “eucharisted”), he broke it, and said, “This is my body which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me” (1 Cor 11:24).

Saint Paul’s First Epistle to the Corinthians was written in about a.d. 57 and so the Apostle’s account of the Eucharist is the earliest testimony to the ritual and beliefs surrounding the Lord’s Supper. The accounts of the Lord’s Supper found in the Matthew, Mark, and Luke were composed sometime after a.d. 57 and so Paul’s description in the eleventh chapter of First Corinthians is the oldest. Less than one hundred years after the death of Saint Paul, we find Saint Justin Martyr writing to the pagan Emperor Antonius Pius (a.d. 138-161) in order to explain the way in which Christians at this time celebrated the Eucharist:"...
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Hello Angel Helper,

Thank you, I'll certainly read it. My Ac number changes but
I am the OP.



may the Two Hearts keep you safe,



Mary
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My name is "Mary" too. Mary Christina.
This is a wonderful read. This woman verifies the fact that the catholic faith is the one promised the " Beatific Vision" in Heaven. It also mentions the validity of the true presence in the Eurchrist. Praise God for this wonderful gift.
Satan has used religion to cause all peoples to be divided cause it is true that there is strength in numbers and when the WARNING COMES we will all see for ourselves and we will all have the truth before us those who will not accept do so at the risk of losing the greatest gift of all. Eternal life.
Anyways. thank you for posting this. It is very timely.
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The historical record is too sparse in original texts to put a date upon the first use of the term "eucharistia" as referring to the name of an ecclesiatical ritual and not ordinary thanksgiving for a common meal.
The epistle of the Apostolic Father Clement of Rome addressing the problem of dissension within the Church at Corinth makes no explicit reference to the Eucharist. The Didache contains, among its components, the earliest surviving written church order. It is usually dated to the early 2nd century.[91] A composite of several documents, it includes ritual prayers and a mention of what it calls the εὐχαριστία​ (Thanksgiving or Eucharist). According to the overwhelming consensus among scholars, the section beginning at 10.1 is a reworking of the Birkat hamazon the prayer that ends the Jewish ritual meal. (see The Didache: Its Jewish Sources and Its Place in Early Judaism and Christianity by Hubertus Waltherus Maria van de Sandt, David Flusser pp 311–2)
Ignatius, Bishop of Antioch, writing c. 107-110 CE referred to Eucharist three times in his Letter to the Smyrnaeans and once in his Letter to the Philadelphians, though they contain no reference to bread and wine. A Glossary of Eastern Orthodox Terms quoted in Father Symeon Ioannovskij, Orthodox Publishing Society. concludes that for Ignatius as well as Saint Hippolytus of Tome the two terms, "eucharist" and "love-feast" were synonymous.
Justin Martyr, writing around 150, is generally credited with the first description of the Eucharist as rite, both as a weekly celebration[92] and (with less details about the rite) as a celebration after a baptism.[93] In his description of the latter he states: "This food is called among us Εὐχαριστία​ [the Eucharist], of which no one is allowed to partake but the man who believes that the things which we teach are true, and who has been washed with the washing that is for the remission of sins, and unto regeneration, and who is so living as Christ has enjoined."
Christians came to describe the Eucharist as a sacrifice, specifically an unbloody sacrifice. It was said to be particularly beneficial when undertaken for the aid of the dead in the intermediate state between death and the Resurrection (see Requiem mass).

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Angel Helper,

I've only scrolled down a little in my reading of her
near death experience! It's fascinating, all of I've read
so far. She gives detail about leaving her body and isn't
it something, in a medical view, she seemed dead! It was
God and you read further you sure see, it is only because of Him...

Further on, I share a couple of quotes from the writing:

"If one person loves another she naturally desires all the goods for her friend. But we are imperfect, and no matter how much good we desire for our friend, especially if he or she is far away, we invoke God's grace, and God being all goodness and love will accord it to our friend, depending on the way we beg these graces. God grants them through prayers especially offered at the elevation of the sacred species. Prayer leads us to the right path, it encourages and saves us, in fact prayer is indispensable for the soul. It strengthens our faith and helps us in our battles against adversity. Prayer inspires hope and trust in God and the eyes of those who pray, see God's goodness in everything, everywhere."

"Those who do not pray and do not aspire to the necessity of prayer nor heavenly blessings, are deprived of the Holy Ghost. Then the spirit of evil takes possession of him, blinding him so that the goodness of grace does not penetrate him and he loses his own dignity, which brings him hatred and fear of an angry God. He forgets or never thinks of his death nor of the divine judgment. The evil spirit tempts men to his ways and the very mention of God is distasteful to him. In which case he thinks there is no God and the world is sufficient in itself. Do not believe the atheists, leave them to their own opinions, but know that they are the suggestions of the evil one."...

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In the messages from Heaven, so often it is stated, to pray for things at the Consecration, pray in earnest for your intentions after the Holy, Holy, Holy or in Latin Sanctus, Sanctus, Sanctus prayer.

And the second paragraph ~ prayer can save your soul, look
what happens when you don't pray! You go further and
further away.

Angel Helper, this NDE account is so specific to answer many
questions of faith everyone wonders about, I gotta keep reading. goodnews
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My name is "Mary" too. Mary Christina.
This is a wonderful read. This woman verifies the fact that the catholic faith is the one promised the " Beatific Vision" in Heaven. It also mentions the validity of the true presence in the Eurchrist. Praise God for this wonderful gift.
Satan has used religion to cause all peoples to be divided cause it is true that there is strength in numbers and when the WARNING COMES we will all see for ourselves and we will all have the truth before us those who will not accept do so at the risk of losing the greatest gift of all. Eternal life.
Anyways. thank you for posting this. It is very timely.
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I just read your reply. Thank you!

Mary Christ
ina... hmmmmm....


rose beautiful, rose

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