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message to John Leary

Sunday, July 24, 2011:
Jesus said: “My people, I am showing you a brief vision of heaven where there is an organ playing beautiful heavenly music. Then there were large buckets of liquid gold that represented My Blood and graces that I pour out on My faithful abundantly. When you receive Me in Holy Communion, you are receiving a touch of heaven when I come into your soul. When you are worthy and open your heart to Me, you receive My abundant graces. Relish these few moments of My Real Presence with you. This is your real treasure, to have Me with you at all times. In the Gospels I have told you where your treasure lies, so lies your heart. Some people’s treasure is only of this world’s things, but it is an empty treasure that will disappear tomorrow. Those, who seek only these things, are on the broad road to hell. But those, who seek to be with Me as your treasure and store your good works in heaven, will indeed be rewarded by being with Me in heaven. When you receive Me in Holy Communion, you become one with Me. But when you are cleansed to come into heaven, it will seem that you will be in the middle of Me, and you will be wrapped completely in My love and My peace. Then you will rejoice in My beatific vision.”
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I wish I could break through to my brothers and sisters in
Christ. They love Our Lord so much with only having the
Bible, oh, if they would only recognize there is much
more.

I am sad, listening to Catholic converts from Protestantism
today via the radio, one shared, a former Assemblies of God:

It is drilled into Protestants, the Eucharist is not true.


How can it be? They accept the miraculous so why not see God can come to us, it is His desire, the plan. Protestants understand about "grace." The "grace" of the Holy Eucharist is powerful! Seee...it is God, since it is from Him, it is supernatural.


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message to John Leary

Sunday, July 24, 2011:
Jesus said: “My people, I am showing you a brief vision of heaven where there is an organ playing beautiful heavenly music. Then there were large buckets of liquid gold that represented My Blood and graces that I pour out on My faithful abundantly. When you receive Me in Holy Communion, you are receiving a touch of heaven when I come into your soul. When you are worthy and open your heart to Me, you receive My abundant graces. Relish these few moments of My Real Presence with you. This is your real treasure, to have Me with you at all times. In the Gospels I have told you where your treasure lies, so lies your heart. Some people’s treasure is only of this world’s things, but it is an empty treasure that will disappear tomorrow. Those, who seek only these things, are on the broad road to hell. But those, who seek to be with Me as your treasure and store your good works in heaven, will indeed be rewarded by being with Me in heaven. When you receive Me in Holy Communion, you become one with Me. But when you are cleansed to come into heaven, it will seem that you will be in the middle of Me, and you will be wrapped completely in My love and My peace. Then you will rejoice in My beatific vision.”
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I wish I could break through to my brothers and sisters in
Christ. They love Our Lord so much with only having the
Bible, oh, if they would only recognize there is much
more.

I am sad, listening to Catholic converts from Protestantism
today via the radio, one shared, a former Assemblies of God:

It is drilled into Protestants, the Eucharist is not true.


How can it be? They accept the miraculous so why not see God can come to us, it is His desire, the plan. Protestants understand about "grace." The "grace" of the Holy Eucharist is powerful! Seee...it is God, since it is from Him, it is supernatural.


love to you all,
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God speaks to every generation. Read John Leary's message
from Our Lord.


rose flower rose
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Posted at [link to www.openheaven.com] today.

Posted: 11/21/2011 at 6:19am

Jeffrey Stewart

God is removing man's reliance on logic from His Bride by showing her that relying on logic is illogical.

The people who were standing around fearful when Goliath challenged Israel were doing so because they were logical men. God brought in an illogical man to defeat Goliath, because no logical mal man would run at Goliath only armed with a sling and five stones. Logical people are governed by what they see. People who walk by faith govern what they see.

A logical man would not have ran at Goliath with only a sling and five stones. God operates above logic. So God wants us to operate above logic, too. Walking by faith is the most illogical way to live, but also the most successful, joyful, and overcoming way to live.

Jesus was not a logical person. So why should you be a logical person? He said some of the most illogical things ever recorded, but everything He said was true.

+ + +

He speaks about having faith but doesn't see. Jeffrey rejects the Eucharist.

Believing in the Christ's presence in the Holy Eucharist
requires faith, 100%!

You can't see a change in the consecrated host but after the priest's words of consecration the host becomes God, the risen Lord, Jesus Christ, his body, blood, soul and divinity.

Illogical yes by our minds because the Eucharist is
supernatural, a divine gift. rose
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Not only is the eucharist NOT in the Bible Your Roman Church is in the Bible many times as God warned us about the antichrist.
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I can respond in my thread.


Were you baptized as an infant "water baptism" which you profess, meaning the first time...as a Roman Catholic?

Everyone will understand your actions then.
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This thread is not about everything you want to know about me. I asked you to get your eyes on Jesus!!!
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Once4All,

Again, you're not going to answer the question. Wonder why you won't say....hmmmm? No answer is telling.

If only you would come home brother.

Prayers...hf
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I can respond in my thread.


Were you baptized as an infant "water baptism" which you profess, meaning the first time...as a Roman Catholic?

Everyone will understand your actions then.
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This thread is not about everything you want to know about me. I asked you to get your eyes on Jesus!!!
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Once4All,

Again, you're not going to answer the question. Wonder why you won't say....hmmmm? No answer is telling.

If only you would come home brother.

Prayers...hf
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You can't preach John 3:16 constantly, the false easy grace teaching that you are justified by believing one verse in Scripture.
How come you bumped up John 6:57 with a heart on your thread Once4All when you deny Our Lord's words in that verse?

There is more. Jesus repeats what He had just said in John 6:54 and John 6:55.


John 6:57
He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, abideth in me, and I in him.
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I can respond in my thread.


Were you baptized as an infant "water baptism" which you profess, meaning the first time...as a Roman Catholic?

Everyone will understand your actions then.
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This thread is not about everything you want to know about me. I asked you to get your eyes on Jesus!!!
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Once4All,

Again, you're not going to answer the question. Wonder why you won't say....hmmmm? No answer is telling.

If only you would come home brother.

Prayers...hf
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This is why the question goes unanswered by Once4All.
He just explained it to Crankgorilla. Do not lie.



You're an idiot. God hates you so much. Jesus was a shiester.
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No, no and no. You should not lie.
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makes me feel sick....







cannibals and vampires... eating bodies and blood, no mather who... this is the very BLOOD RITUAL of devil worshipers.... more proof something is off with religion...


read your scriptures and eat blood....



do not invite me...
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makes me feel sick....







cannibals and vampires... eating bodies and blood, no mather who... this is the very BLOOD RITUAL of devil worshipers.... more proof something is off with religion...


read your scriptures and eat blood....



do not invite me...
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You gotta change. The Remnant is Roman Catholic as it
should be. God is going to reveal it to you personally soon.

It's not cannibalism. This is what Jesus means when He
says "spirit and life", understand something supernatural
not in a human way, in the natural.

Jesus' presence in the Eucharist is God's plan. We
don't see a change in the consecrated host but it happens because God said so...

The Eucharist is the risen body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus Christ Our Savior. hf
of Our Lord.
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I can respond in my thread.


Were you baptized as an infant "water baptism" which you profess, meaning the first time...as a Roman Catholic?

Everyone will understand your actions then.
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This thread is not about everything you want to know about me. I asked you to get your eyes on Jesus!!!
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Once4All,

Again, you're not going to answer the question. Wonder why you won't say....hmmmm? No answer is telling.

If only you would come home brother.

Prayers...hf
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This is why the question goes unanswered by Once4All.
He just explained it to Crankgorilla. Do not lie.



You're an idiot. God hates you so much. Jesus was a shiester.
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No, no and no. You should not lie.
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I can't reply on your thread, come here and answer finally,
why do you hide it brother? If I am wrong, correct me.

It's so ridiculous....there are a lot of former Catholics at GLP and some very happy about it right now.

They'll come home, my prediction.
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Jesus isn't present in the Eucharist, nor has he ever been!

"If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;" 1 Timothy 6:3

"Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." Mark 7:7

"But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." Matthew 15:9

"Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:" Isaiah 29:13

"Therefore thou shalt love the LORD thy God, and keep his charge, and his statutes, and his judgments, and his commandments, alway." Deuteronomy 11:1

"If ye love me, keep my commandments." John 14:15

"For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous." 1 John 5:3


"And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it." 2 John 1:6

The Eucharist predates Christianity, If you research Simon Magus(The man Catholics Knew as Peter!), He successfully Married Pagan Roman Customs/Doctrines of Man with Christianity.

The Result was Roman Catholicism.

Peter(the apostle) Never even Went to Rome!
Jesus Commissioned him To preach to The Jewish people
(the Circumcised), The Bible Backs this Up to be true and then many century's later you have clusters of Dead Body's piling up at the Feet of the Pagan Papal Church.

Do we really think Christ Would endorse the Atrocity's of The Inquisition, the brutal slaying of The peaceful Waldensian people and The horrendous acts of The Jesuits through Earths History?

There can be No mistake The Catholic Church is Pagan.
It is Full of Pagan Symbolism, if you remove "that" you are left with nothing.

Why on Earth would they just on a Whim, decide to Change God's Ten Commandments

It is the Antichrist power of Revelation/Daniel who thought to change times and Laws.

It is definitely the church power mentioned in Revelation 18:4-5

We all know this below verse could only be about The Papal Church!
"And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration" Revelation 17:6

"But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:" Matthew 24:20

Why is Jesus preaching about the Sabbath?, even in the catholic Douay-Rheims version Bible, Don't cover their nakedness up well do they?
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"you can't twist Scripture to mean what you want it to say"!

Why not? that's how it's been done since it was first collated. Why stop now?
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Stop spreading the doctrine of devils.

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To the OP: I've been to mass before, probably 20 times(back in the day with my ex). I don't think I heard a single bible verse there ever, nor were we ever advised to open the scripture ourselves. It was non-stop rituals with a very, in my opinion, unhealthy focus on the priest whom they refer to as "father"(unbiblical). I'm not bashing catholics but at the same time I think your advice/warning, no matter how well-intentioned, is misguided. We are warned in the bible not to attempt communication(which would include prayer) to anyone not living on earth with the exception of Jesus. My advice would be to not pray to mary or any of the other saints. Jesus said no one comes to the Father but by him, and he intercedes on our behalf to God. Praying to mary or the saints is not only idolatry in my opinion but is basically telling Jesus in effect "just incase God ignores you, we will bombard mary and the saints as well just to be safe."
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Read the Bible the way God gave it to us. He said if anyone change a ditto? like a comma out he will be cursed
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"But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God." Mt.4.4

The same was said about eat my flesh drink my blood.. Jesus went on to explain the thing as symbolising the Word of God.

Catholics have only taken this and twisted it to support pre-Christian traditions, as they did also with Mary.
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To the OP: I've been to mass before, probably 20 times(back in the day with my ex). I don't think I heard a single bible verse there ever, nor were we ever advised to open the scripture ourselves. It was non-stop rituals with a very, in my opinion, unhealthy focus on the priest whom they refer to as "father"(unbiblical). I'm not bashing catholics but at the same time I think your advice/warning, no matter how well-intentioned, is misguided. We are warned in the bible not to attempt communication(which would include prayer) to anyone not living on earth with the exception of Jesus. My advice would be to not pray to mary or any of the other saints. Jesus said no one comes to the Father but by him, and he intercedes on our behalf to God. Praying to mary or the saints is not only idolatry in my opinion but is basically telling Jesus in effect "just incase God ignores you, we will bombard mary and the saints as well just to be safe."
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Excellent post and points

If we read about the 5th Vial of : Revelation 16:10
Those Saints are sleeping and waiting for God to Revenge them!, GOD tells them to rest a little longer.

So they are Obviously Not in "Heaven or in Hell"

"Keys to heaven and Hell" is a term that The Papacy likes to brag about having the Authority over.pope
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Obviously If you Believe the Bible at its Word, You then have to disregard or question their statement of Divine Authority.
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"you can't twist Scripture to mean what you want it to say."


This is PRECISELY what you Catholic imbeciles do on a daily basis. It's the ONLY way that you can get your thoroughly paganized cult members to avoid seeing reality.

How ANYONE could remain a Catholic, is beyond me. The ONLY way, is to be 100% deceived, and delusional.

Just LOOK at the incessantly EVIL history of the Roman Papacy. How could ANYONE really consider this to be "God's church", when it's entire history is one of mass murder, torture, corruption, theft, and deceit.

Yeah... "God's church"... Right.
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Jesus is present in the Holy Eucharist, you can't twist Scripture to mean what you want it to say.

NOT SO FOR JESUS HIMSELF WAS SAT AT THE TABLE AND BROKE THE BREAD
AND THIS IS WHEN HE SAID THE BREAD IS HIS BODY AND THE WINE HIS BLOOD DO THIS IN REMEBRANCE OF ME AS OFTEN AS YOU EAT THE BREAT AND DRINK THE WINE

ALL THIS HE DID BEFORE HE GAVE UP HIS BODY TO BROKEN

AND THE BREAD THAT JESUS BROKE AND THE WINE HE PASSED ROUND
WAS A HOLY SYMBOL OF HIS SACRIFICE
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You gotta explain your belief. Where does it say in Scripture
the Eucharist is not the body and blood of Our Lord? That it is only a symbol of His body. You are forever ignoring Jesus said "This is My body."

How on in Heaven does consuming crackers and juice become
a "remembrance" of Christ's sacrifice on the cross?

When Jesus said do this in "remembrance" of Me. He was speaking to the Apostles....the first priests. By the power of God come down, after their priestly words of consecration bread and wine become the body and blood of Our Lord. All the
priests through Apostolic succession would do the same to
this day and until the end of time.
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Symbolism just doesn't seem to one of your fuerte's.

The bread SYMBOLIZED Jesus's body, just as the wine (grape juice actually) SYMBOLIZED His blood.

Taking these symbols, and making them literal is just plain ignorant. Showing a nonexistent sense of spiritual discernment.

No WONDER you Catholics can't see evil, even when it's staring you in the face.
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I say this without hate or fanfare but from it's inception Roman Catholisism has always been the pagan church of Mithra. Always.
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This ^^^

The Mother of Harlots.
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the Holy Spirit indwells all believers op -- not just some external force but an indwelling Spirit -- the Spirit of God, the Spirit of Jesus Christ -- so Jesus is present with us always!

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Once4All,rose

You are at an advantage, with your banning option but I
can still talk to you, I hope. hf

I was thinking about what you heard long ago. I may
not quote it exactly..."you could of been kinder."

Ditto
~~!!

This applies to me! I wish we could be friends. We both
believe the prophetic.

And I wish you would support Catholic messages from Heaven like Catholics at GLP have supported your prophetic, your "words of knowledge."

I think I know what the messages from Heaven have said for so
long. We will just have to trust and stay close to Our
Lord as the events play out.


God bless you,


Mary
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rb hi, flower and everyone else who commented yesterday,



I wish I could change your belief about the Eucharist before
the Great Warning, I don't think I can...

This really hit me...when I read it AND I am Catholic!!!$%%^


The objection, back to the meaning of "When Christ said "Do this in remembrance of Me" what, exactly, was He commanding, and what do those "remembrances" constitute?"

Jesus is truly God, He said perfectly what He wished to teach us, it can't be taken apart by anyone.

+ + + + +

After Christ consecrated and distributed His Body and Blood, He commanded the apostles to "Do this in remembrance of Me." That word - remembrance - is very important, because the Greek word it is translated from refers to a deep and complex concept that has no proper word or even short phrase in modern languages. That word is anamnesis, and, according to the best evidence, means a type of memorial sacrifice. What is a memorial sacrifice? Note that it's not the memorial of a sacrifice but rather a sacrifice that is itself a memorial - a critical distinction.

Because there is some contention regarding the meaning of anamnesis, we will look at how it is used elsewhere in the New Testament and the Septuagint (the Greek translation of the Old Testament).

In the Old Testament, anamnesis is used to refer to either a bread sacrifice or a blood sacrifice - a memorial sacrifice, that is. Lev 24, full of the same terminology of priests, eating, memorial sacrifice, incense and bread that surrounds the Eucharist, speaks of the anamnesis of Aaron's priesthood. And Numbers 10 speaks of the burnt offerings of anamnesis offered to God to atone for sin. The parallels with the New Covenant Sacrifice are plentiful.

Anamnesis is used only once in the New Testament outside of the Last Supper narratives, in Heb 10, where Paul speaks of the Levitical sacrifices.

So, the concept of anamnesis existed in the Hebrew culture (religion): as mentioned in the Introduction the Passover itself has always been regarded by jewish people as not just a remembrance of the Exodus, but as a re-living or "making present" of those events. And so it is with the Eucharist: It is the making-present, in a mystical way, of Christ's sacrificial death. When Christ said "Do this anamnesis" He literally said "Celebrate this memorial sacrifice". And so the Church has always done
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rb hi, flower and everyone else who commented yesterday,



I wish I could change your belief about the Eucharist before
the Great Warning, I don't think I can...

This really hit me...when I read it AND I am Catholic!!!$%%^


The objection, back to the meaning of "When Christ said "Do this in remembrance of Me" what, exactly, was He commanding, and what do those "remembrances" constitute?"

Jesus is truly God, He said perfectly what He wished to teach us, it can't be taken apart by anyone.

+ + + + +

After Christ consecrated and distributed His Body and Blood, He commanded the apostles to "Do this in remembrance of Me." That word - remembrance - is very important, because the Greek word it is translated from refers to a deep and complex concept that has no proper word or even short phrase in modern languages. That word is anamnesis, and, according to the best evidence, means a type of memorial sacrifice. What is a memorial sacrifice? Note that it's not the memorial of a sacrifice but rather a sacrifice that is itself a memorial - a critical distinction.

Because there is some contention regarding the meaning of anamnesis, we will look at how it is used elsewhere in the New Testament and the Septuagint (the Greek translation of the Old Testament).

In the Old Testament, anamnesis is used to refer to either a bread sacrifice or a blood sacrifice - a memorial sacrifice, that is. Lev 24, full of the same terminology of priests, eating, memorial sacrifice, incense and bread that surrounds the Eucharist, speaks of the anamnesis of Aaron's priesthood. And Numbers 10 speaks of the burnt offerings of anamnesis offered to God to atone for sin. The parallels with the New Covenant Sacrifice are plentiful.

Anamnesis is used only once in the New Testament outside of the Last Supper narratives, in Heb 10, where Paul speaks of the Levitical sacrifices.

So, the concept of anamnesis existed in the Hebrew culture (religion): as mentioned in the Introduction the Passover itself has always been regarded by jewish people as not just a remembrance of the Exodus, but as a re-living or "making present" of those events. And so it is with the Eucharist: It is the making-present, in a mystical way, of Christ's sacrificial death. When Christ said "Do this anamnesis" He literally said "Celebrate this memorial sacrifice". And so the Church has always done
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Do you see the "in red" fits Daniel's prophecy.

The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass...is the "continual sacrifice."
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rb hi, flower and everyone else who commented yesterday,



I wish I could change your belief about the Eucharist before
the Great Warning, I don't think I can...

This really hit me...when I read it AND I am Catholic!!!$%%^


The objection, back to the meaning of "When Christ said "Do this in remembrance of Me" what, exactly, was He commanding, and what do those "remembrances" constitute?"

Jesus is truly God, He said perfectly what He wished to teach us, it can't be taken apart by anyone.

+ + + + +

After Christ consecrated and distributed His Body and Blood, He commanded the apostles to "Do this in remembrance of Me." That word - remembrance - is very important, because the Greek word it is translated from refers to a deep and complex concept that has no proper word or even short phrase in modern languages. That word is anamnesis, and, according to the best evidence, means a type of memorial sacrifice. What is a memorial sacrifice? Note that it's not the memorial of a sacrifice but rather a sacrifice that is itself a memorial - a critical distinction.

Because there is some contention regarding the meaning of anamnesis, we will look at how it is used elsewhere in the New Testament and the Septuagint (the Greek translation of the Old Testament).

In the Old Testament, anamnesis is used to refer to either a bread sacrifice or a blood sacrifice - a memorial sacrifice, that is. Lev 24, full of the same terminology of priests, eating, memorial sacrifice, incense and bread that surrounds the Eucharist, speaks of the anamnesis of Aaron's priesthood. And Numbers 10 speaks of the burnt offerings of anamnesis offered to God to atone for sin. The parallels with the New Covenant Sacrifice are plentiful.

Anamnesis is used only once in the New Testament outside of the Last Supper narratives, in Heb 10, where Paul speaks of the Levitical sacrifices.

So, the concept of anamnesis existed in the Hebrew culture (religion): as mentioned in the Introduction the Passover itself has always been regarded by jewish people as not just a remembrance of the Exodus, but as a re-living or "making present" of those events. And so it is with the Eucharist: It is the making-present, in a mystical way, of Christ's sacrificial death. When Christ said "Do this anamnesis" He literally said "Celebrate this memorial sacrifice". And so the Church has always done
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Our Lord, His human nature, He spoke like the rest of
us but isn't it something, everything He said was perfect!

You're just left in awe! rose
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Once4All,rose

You are at an advantage, with your banning option but I
can still talk to you, I hope. hf

I was thinking about what you heard long ago. I may
not quote it exactly..."you could of been kinder."

Ditto
~~!!

This applies to me! I wish we could be friends. We both
believe the prophetic.

And I wish you would support Catholic messages from Heaven like Catholics at GLP have supported your prophetic, your "words of knowledge."

I think I know what the messages from Heaven have said for so
long. We will just have to trust and stay close to Our
Lord as the events play out.


God bless you,


Mary
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I have a favor to ask, would a forum member send my post
below onto Once4All since I am an Ac, maybe, send it on by PM. I don't know if he saw it here? Thank you. u2efine



Once4All,rose

You are at an advantage, with your banning option but I
can still talk to you, I hope. hf

I was thinking about what you heard long ago. I may
not quote it exactly..."you could of been kinder."

Ditto
~~!!

This applies to me! I wish we could be friends. We both
believe the prophetic.

And I wish you would support Catholic messages from Heaven like Catholics at GLP have supported your prophetic, your "words of knowledge."

I think I know what the messages from Heaven have said for so
long. We will just have to trust and stay close to Our
Lord as the events play out.


God bless you,


Mary
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Hi Mary,

I've been off GLP since October...hope you had a wonderful holiday season. You were heavy on my mind a couple of weeks ago, so I was praying for you and I hope all is well with you.

I don't know how to send your comment to another person, but I could leave them a note that it is here in this thread.

I've been reading Psalm 34 (my favorite), and the first verse says something like "I will bless the Lord at all times, His praise shall be continually in my mouth.". And I have also been thinking about Rev.3:20 where Jesus is standing at the door knocking, waiting for us to let him in so we may dine with Him.

It is amazing to me that our God wants to have this level of intimacy with us, and it is ours for the choosing.

Jen
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rb hi, flower and everyone else who commented yesterday,



I wish I could change your belief about the Eucharist before
the Great Warning, I don't think I can...

This really hit me...when I read it AND I am Catholic!!!$%%^


The objection, back to the meaning of "When Christ said "Do this in remembrance of Me" what, exactly, was He commanding, and what do those "remembrances" constitute?"

Jesus is truly God, He said perfectly what He wished to teach us, it can't be taken apart by anyone.

+ + + + +

After Christ consecrated and distributed His Body and Blood, He commanded the apostles to "Do this in remembrance of Me." That word - remembrance - is very important, because the Greek word it is translated from refers to a deep and complex concept that has no proper word or even short phrase in modern languages. That word is anamnesis, and, according to the best evidence, means a type of memorial sacrifice. What is a memorial sacrifice? Note that it's not the memorial of a sacrifice but rather a sacrifice that is itself a memorial - a critical distinction.

Because there is some contention regarding the meaning of anamnesis, we will look at how it is used elsewhere in the New Testament and the Septuagint (the Greek translation of the Old Testament).

In the Old Testament, anamnesis is used to refer to either a bread sacrifice or a blood sacrifice - a memorial sacrifice, that is. Lev 24, full of the same terminology of priests, eating, memorial sacrifice, incense and bread that surrounds the Eucharist, speaks of the anamnesis of Aaron's priesthood. And Numbers 10 speaks of the burnt offerings of anamnesis offered to God to atone for sin. The parallels with the New Covenant Sacrifice are plentiful.

Anamnesis is used only once in the New Testament outside of the Last Supper narratives, in Heb 10, where Paul speaks of the Levitical sacrifices.

So, the concept of anamnesis existed in the Hebrew culture (religion): as mentioned in the Introduction the Passover itself has always been regarded by jewish people as not just a remembrance of the Exodus, but as a re-living or "making present" of those events. And so it is with the Eucharist: It is the making-present, in a mystical way, of Christ's sacrificial death. When Christ said "Do this anamnesis" He literally said "Celebrate this memorial sacrifice". And so the Church has always done
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I say this without hate or fanfare but from it's inception Roman Catholisism has always been the pagan church of Mithra. Always.
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