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More Bird Deaths Yankton Sees Bird Kill-Off

 
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I'm in Ohio, too, and have been surprised at the number of robins I've been seeing. I had a thread (that nobody responded to) about migration. So, I do understand that birds only migrate as far as they need to go to find food. Migration is about food for most species. Which is why robins leave in the winter.....they eat WORMS. They might come back if it's a very mild winter. BUT....we've had snow on the ground since the first of December and there are a TON of robins around here!


I live in southern PA and I haven't seen any robins yet. Now, I am not doubting you, but I am keeping a very careful eye out on when they do return.

In the past 10yrs since I have lived in this location, they return "religiously" during the 1st week of March. It also happens that I have calendars going back at least five years showing the first day I spot them (it's my way of knowing spring is around the corner).

That being said, I most certainly will come back and post THE VERY DAY I see one any earlier than that. Folks, if I see them prior to mid February, I will be thoroughly convinced we got a serious problem going on.
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I'll try to get some pictures. I'm not talking about just one here or there. I'm talking about groups of them. My mom even called me one day (either a week or two ago) to tell me they were all over her ornamental pear trees.
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strange all these die offs started on 1/11/11 on a daily basis.
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strange all these die offs started on 1/11/11 on a daily basis.
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actually they've been happening on a regular basis as long as anyone's been keeping track.

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We live in N.E , I'm not a Bird watcher so I don't know their names but I have been noticing that their calls are that of Spring Birds as well, started noticing it about a month ago. It really is very strange and I'm not liking it. I know how you feel about seeing Robins..It is all so sad.
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Pin: Scientists Discover rapid transitional (MAGNETIC) field change (RTFC) in Nevada’s Sheep Creek Range
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NOW!!!

After much investigation and debate I have come to the conclusion that magnetism is not only affecting their ability to navigate (I said from the beginning of the Arkansas bird and fish kill) but it does makes sense that it's will affect their ability to find food or feed.

This is MY theory.


You heard it here first.

Try this as an explanation.


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Tell me what is so abnormal about this story to deserve a pin. Where is the evidence that these bird deaths do not regularly occur and are all linked by a conspiracy.
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Had you read the thread you would have seen the point.

Look ass-stain, calling some one delusional with your dumb ass point of view makes you a moron.

The USGS determines there are an average of 163 mass animal die-offs every year in North America. The first one happened on New Years Eve in BeBee Ar and today is only the 18th.

At the current rate of animal die-offs we would come close to doubling the yearly average. That doesn't sound strange to you dumbass?

Miners used to take canaries into mines and if the birds died, it may have been an indication the air in the mine shaft was bad. Animals are a vital reflection of the health of our environment. Animals dieing in mass could be a reflection of serious problems in our environment dipshit.

Your "nothing to see here" attitude sucks ass, and if you want rock hard close minded science, then go some where else fag-stick...this is GLP.

The world may not be ending, but wait to see why all these animals are dieing before you talk shit or put up those faggy BS flags.

Who knows, maybe some serious shit is happening...at least wait and see idiot.
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Funny how all of you "science" types cannot seem to grasp a simple concept. Just because bird deaths happen on a regular basis does not mean that ALL bird deaths are equal. It doesn't mean that the sky is falling, but it does suggest that maybe we should find out if something serious is occurring. Which is rather difficult with every conformist on the internet bitching that, "this happens all of the time".
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Funny how all of you "science" types cannot seem to grasp a simple concept. Just because bird deaths happen on a regular basis does not mean that ALL bird deaths are equal. It doesn't mean that the sky is falling, but it does suggest that maybe we should find out if something serious is occurring. Which is rather difficult with every conformist on the internet bitching that, "this happens all of the time".
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"They just didn’t migrate and are dying."

Magnetic field of the earth. This, to me, is proof enough. Hold on folks. Rough ride coming.

The canaries in the coal mine are dying, except we can't get out of this mine.
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Thread: Updates Posted Daily !!!! I THINK I MIGHT HAVE SOLVED THE MYSTERY BEHIND THESE MASS ANIMAL DIE-OFFS !!!!

Check out my thread if you wanna learn how to track this Anomaly.
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strange all these die offs started on 1/11/11 on a daily basis.


actually they've been happening on a regular basis as long as anyone's been keeping track.

2010

[link to www.nwhc.usgs.gov]

1995-2010

[link to www.nwhc.usgs.gov]
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Looks like its getting more and more frequent as time goes along
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strange all these die offs started on 1/11/11 on a daily basis.


actually they've been happening on a regular basis as long as anyone's been keeping track.

2010

[link to www.nwhc.usgs.gov]

1995-2010

[link to www.nwhc.usgs.gov]

Looks like its getting more and more frequent as time goes along
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I would not draw that conclusion. july -september 1996 had 9 events larger than the beebe arkansas event. 2 of the die-offs in that period were over 100,000 birds.

july-september 1998 had 8 events larger than beebe. what this data shows is that these are not uncommon events by any means. If anything what we are seeing now are relatively small scale animal die-offs compared to what has happened throughout history. Just wait until a large scale event happens of over 100,000 animals dead.

Basically what I'm saying is that these events are not uncommon and speculation about a link is a waste of time without any evidence that these recent cases are connected.
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However, scientists have been downplaying the events.

“Five billion birds die in the U.S. every year,” Melanie Driscoll, a biologist and director of bird conservation for the Gulf of Mexico and Mississippi Flyway for the National Audubon Society, told the New York Times recently.

That means 13.7 million birds die in the United States every day, the Times points out.

Nevertheless, the explanations of scientists don’t always ease the shock of seeing so many dead animals in one place.



I don't ever remember hearing about these types of mass animal deaths in the last 50 years...Day after day...
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Those numbers can't be correct. Can they?
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Like anyone has any fucking idea where Yankton is?
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However, scientists have been downplaying the events.

“Five billion birds die in the U.S. every year,” Melanie Driscoll, a biologist and director of bird conservation for the Gulf of Mexico and Mississippi Flyway for the National Audubon Society, told the New York Times recently.

That means 13.7 million birds die in the United States every day, the Times points out.

Nevertheless, the explanations of scientists don’t always ease the shock of seeing so many dead animals in one place.



I don't ever remember hearing about these types of mass animal deaths in the last 50 years...Day after day...



This has to be right up there with the biggest lie every told.

In all my long life I have never seen dead birds laying around.

Perhaps in my whole life I have come upon 7 dead birds and now they are trying to tell us that 13.7 million die every DAY.

What a load of crap.

Don't you find it interesting that when birds die a natural death it is one at a time and you almost never find the carcass as they just seem to have a way to hide themselves when they know old age has got them????????

But now they are laying in great numbers in clusters in a small geographical area.
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I would agree
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Like anyone has any fucking idea where Yankton is?
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South Dakota dear...
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Re: More Bird Deaths Yankton Sees Bird Kill-Off
strange all these die offs started on 1/11/11 on a daily basis.


actually they've been happening on a regular basis as long as anyone's been keeping track.

2010

[link to www.nwhc.usgs.gov]

1995-2010

[link to www.nwhc.usgs.gov]

Looks like its getting more and more frequent as time goes along


I would not draw that conclusion. july -september 1996 had 9 events larger than the beebe arkansas event. 2 of the die-offs in that period were over 100,000 birds.

july-september 1998 had 8 events larger than beebe. what this data shows is that these are not uncommon events by any means. If anything what we are seeing now are relatively small scale animal die-offs compared to what has happened throughout history. Just wait until a large scale event happens of over 100,000 animals dead.

Basically what I'm saying is that these events are not uncommon and speculation about a link is a waste of time without any evidence that these recent cases are connected.
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Ya but those in july-september 1998 that were larger than beebe died in a time span over 3-4 months and died of a virus. The thousands in beebe recently died in the middle of one night with no cause.
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Re: More Bird Deaths Yankton Sees Bird Kill-Off
strange all these die offs started on 1/11/11 on a daily basis.


actually they've been happening on a regular basis as long as anyone's been keeping track.

2010

[link to www.nwhc.usgs.gov]

1995-2010

[link to www.nwhc.usgs.gov]

Looks like its getting more and more frequent as time goes along


I would not draw that conclusion. july -september 1996 had 9 events larger than the beebe arkansas event. 2 of the die-offs in that period were over 100,000 birds.

july-september 1998 had 8 events larger than beebe. what this data shows is that these are not uncommon events by any means. If anything what we are seeing now are relatively small scale animal die-offs compared to what has happened throughout history. Just wait until a large scale event happens of over 100,000 animals dead.

Basically what I'm saying is that these events are not uncommon and speculation about a link is a waste of time without any evidence that these recent cases are connected.
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Even the big ones have causes listed. I'm not seeing huge numbers with "Unknown" or "Fireworks" listed.
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Like anyone has any fucking idea where Yankton is?
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Wow. Yankton is only an hour away from me.

In which direction, may I ask? I am only an hour away as well.

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Like anyone has any fucking idea where Yankton is?

Deadwood's sister city. cool2
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Yankton and Deadwood are on opposite sides of the State, but in the series "Deadwood" they alluded to Yankton as being Capitol of the State, which it was, but the Capitol was later moved to Pierre.
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OP could you please edit your subject to reflect 'Yankton, South Dakota" for those of us who may not know where Yankton is, especially in this international forum.

Even the newspaper article only said 'Dakotan' so I still had to Google it to find out. :) Thanks!

It seems strange if they died from not migrating - I don't know a lot about starlings, do they usually migrate?
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I thought "kill" was no longer acceptable verbage?

"Bird Reduction Event"....less SCARY!
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That's even worse.

They want to reduce all the food animals too....as well as us.
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Sounds like Corexit to me.

Here's an update on the dead and sick pelicans in Florida.

12 Pelicans Dead, 100 Sick In Mayport
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Cindy Moseling, who's been caring for and rehabilitating birds at Bird Emergency Aid and Kare Sanctuary on Little Talbot Island for decades, said she has seen her feathered friends die for various reasons, but is especially concerned this time.

"The last few days, we've had quite a bit of birds dying," Moseling said.

She said she's found the pelicans dead near the St. Johns River and seen at least 100 more that don't look healthy. She said it's because of something in the water.

"There's something on their feathers that's taking their ability to repel water," Moseling said. "They've lost their protection from the cold."

Without natural oils that, in effect, waterproof the pelicans, the large water birds are susceptible to hypothermia from cold temperatures, and that's probably why they're dying, Moseling said.

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Fireworks!
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Exactly. They're early, but why? When is the damn news gonna give me real fucking news? They just cast it off because no one is interested in it anymore? For shits sake! People are afraid of this to the point that they pray to their deity! I find this coverage dissapointing in the media, it should have an official explanation. Anyone who believes this is still a firework related incident just GTFO!!!
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Holy shit, we have been hit in South Dakota. Now I am really getting nervous. Thread: No Dead Birds in South Dakota Yet
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Weird. I saw two flocks of Canadian geese this week heading north. It's too early for them to head back home.
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Yes, I'm in Cali and have heard the flights of geese heading north every night for the past week. WAY too early....
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"They just didn’t migrate and are dying."

Magnetic field of the earth. This, to me, is proof enough. Hold on folks. Rough ride coming.

The canaries in the coal mine are dying, except we can't get out of this mine.
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OP could you please edit your subject to reflect 'Yankton, South Dakota" for those of us who may not know where Yankton is, especially in this international forum.

Even the newspaper article only said 'Dakotan' so I still had to Google it to find out. :) Thanks!

It seems strange if they died from not migrating - I don't know a lot about starlings, do they usually migrate?
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Almost ALL birds have to migrate out of South Dakota in the winter.
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Yankton Sees Bird Kill-Off

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I read someplace birds are not particular where they migrate to. Big birds like the Ducks and Geese certainly do but sparrows and blackbirds, no. So if weather causes this they should migrate, right? They aren't migrating.
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not sure if its worth mentioning hence why I dont start my own thread but I been noticing something here too that I dont normally see.. while I wouldnt call myself a bird watcher I do quite admire nature

recently the indian miner birds around here, who are normally a pretty damn smart opportunistic species breeding in the thousands if you let them have been a little... off

ive seen atleast 5 of them flattened on the roads recently in my area.. I wondered why I seen so many of them they're usually quick to react.. so I started noticing more and payed attention

what im seeing is repeatedly week after week mother birds taking out their 2-3 chicks of the nest well before they're ready to fly.. these young birds are roughly half the size of an adult and the wings seem to do very little at all

while the parents nervously look on at the hopping and skipping bird wondering around gardens, roads.. gutters for days at a time until they're either squished.. eaten by a cat.. picked up as a pet (which then die) or generally go missing

It could be that im just noticing now.. but I find it unusual.. its been happening to more than a few nests recently in my small area

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