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Sandi_T

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I think your analysis is a good one. I don't believe these are "angels" though, and I don't believe any entity that claims to know something can be trusted based on that claim alone. Because how can anyone or anything know anything for certain? They can't know they know for sure, but can only at most believe their claims. But that doesn't mean that beliefs represent reality. We are left with possibilities. The possibilities become important especially when dangerous risks are being suggested to people, even if they are suggested in a pleasant facade.

For example, if someone says, walk into this fire, don't worry its good, I know it is. Does that mean they are telling the truth or that it is actually good for a person? Is it possible they are lying in order to mislead people into harm? So why take the leap of faith, I wouldn't, and I think people should be careful about such things.
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Very obviously connecting her to suicide cult again with this "walk into this fire" bullshit.

She never told anyone to walk into any fucking fire.

Oh, but of course, on a thread about HER BELIEFS, I'm sure you weren't actually talking about HER, despite your attempt in the first post to make it look like that's what she was saying...
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DELIBERATELY twisting it around to make it sound like she's saying to jump into fire, when it's very clear IN CONTEXT that she's talking about the AFTERLIFE.
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That's your interpretation of the quotations.

To me, it doesn't say that or suggest she wants to jump into a fire, because even in the original verbatim post, it's quite clear she is talking about the afterlife (HELL, for example).

However, the way I read it, is somehow love and fire are linked. And FreedomStands is suggesting, perhaps it's an inverse encouragement we go into the hellfires - suggesting this might be devil tactics - which ANY so-called 'christian' will claim about any other belief that it's 'of the devil' - so it's not like any of what he is saying is radical or crazy. I get called 'of the devil' myself. I don't take offense because true prophets got treated this way.

I personally don't believe hellfires are actual hot-type-fires, and likewise, I don't believe Love and fire are the same. So I don't feel she is trying to infer that, just confused on what she is talking about. As far as I can tell, everybody is confused.
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Maybe you should look into the policies and projects that Nobody in Particular is hoping will come to pass. They may very well lead to terrible torture of billions of people and I've discussed extensively in my other thread.

I don't think they are harmless, because they claim to want to shut down all media presentations and only present their version of the truth to convince people to board ships where they very well may lose their lives. It is one of the most dangerous possibilities presented.
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Right. Not maligning her AT ALL, are you. Not in the least... aside from her torturing billions of people and being the most dangerous possibility presented.
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I believe the underlying influence does come from the fallen angels, note I say fallen, they left their former estate to enable their direct interaction with humanity. What could possibly make them desire leaving a higher plane of existence to enter into and influence our physical plane of existence other than pride.

Perhaps they really thought that through influencing humanities beliefs they could somehow override God's ordinances of reality. Who knows, but I don't think their intent is benevolent, and I don't think that man's influence in this reality is limited only to science, they just want us to believe that science is god and that they can impute to us greater understanding of the physical universe.

There is a reason why the Psalmist says:

Ps 82:6 I said, "You are gods, And all of you are sons of the Most High."


I think that the message of Satanism has always been that you are a God or can attain to be Gods. The word used in that Psalm seems to mean judges or sovereigns.

I don't believe the entities being dealt with were ever "angels" or "messengers" which is what the word angels means, nor do I think they were actually the same race of entities that might be what people think of as angels.

I believe that besides human beings, there is the non human race of plasma beings that are difficult to see but have existed alongside the human race throughout history. Their only advantage may be that they are difficult to see and so have been able to potentially mislead people in various ways throughout history.

It only becomes an issue when they suggest that people take actions that might be dangerous or harmful towards themselves.

I believe only a supremacist malevolent faction would ask people to enter fires for example or claim they themselves are "higher". Clearly those are supremacist hierarchal attitudes that may remind one of Caste systems in ancient India for example.

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HER BELIEFS
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Last time I checked, this was a belief shared by others, and not hers. And I bet, if you ask her, she'll tell you that it wasn't even her who came up with it.

You're just now going after political attacks Sandi. Chill. It's a thread. Threads come and go.
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Oh, YOU are offended?? YOU are offended?

Yet you are comparing her beliefs to SUICIDE CULTS and making her out to be saying something SHE IS NOT.

But you poor little thing, YOU are offended.

Boo fucking hoo. What you are doing to her here IS FAR WORSE.

If she wants to risk herself by posting something of her own information, then that's her error. Though somehow, I don't think she knew you'd come along and paint her the way you have in this sick, disgusting thread.

Whether she posts her personal information or not, IT IS NOT YOUR BUSINESS TO DO SO. ESPECIALLY in a thread like this one.

You can say, "NiP is a lady/woman/female" without giving name, age, address, hair color.

Again. Especially in a thread such as this where you assassinate her character in such a way.

I'm offended that you are demonizing her. I'm offended that you are labeling her and anyone who believes even somewhat as she does as Luciferian Satanists.

Do you have ONE FUCKING CLUE the HORRIFIC ACTS that Luciferian Satanists DO?? DO YOU?! Have you EVER been strapped to a table while you had to watch a child be BRUTALLY BEATEN as he or she SCREAMED for mercy and then RAPED??? HAVE YOU??

How fucking DARE you accuse someone of being one of these MONSTERS??

But you have the GALL to tell me that YOU ARE OFFENDED?!

Fine if you think she is being misled. Fine if you disagree. Fine if you genuinely have issues with her beliefs.

SHE IS NOT A SATANIST and IT IS NOT A SUICIDE CULT. STOP accusing her of either one! That's LIBEL and it's illegal.

And if you had but ONE CLUE the HORRIFIC acts that Luciferian Satanist of the REAL variety do, you would NEVER AGAIN so casually claim someone is one.

Talk to me about "offense" when you stop making it sound like this poor woman is some kind of cult leader trying to murder as many people as possible.

Misled, fine. I agree. Even adamantly wrong. Fine. I agree.

Please don't say such harsh things about me like that, its really hurtful and offensive. Please don't report my posts. The information about her was publically stated by her on GLP.


That's HER INFORMATION to post or not post. NOT YOURS.

And especially NOT in a thread where you are so viciously maligning her character.

Your "offense" in the face of what you're saying about her is... laughable. Except that the nature of the way you are painting her is IMMENSELY heinous.
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Yes I'm aware of Luciferian acts. They also suggest that "hell is actually heaven" and similar things.

Yes, I'm very offended by your attacks against me and that you reported my post and are constantly stating that I'm trying to do something bad when I'm not intending to do anything bad at all.

I never stated her "address" or "hair color" or anything like that. I explained why I responded to one poster who kept calling her a he. The information was based on what she had publically said on GLP and may not even be true.

This was in order to help them understand how they can better treat her with respect and dignity rather than just discarding her as any ordinary kid on GLP making random claims.

Yes, I know about the horrible acts of Luciferians and their tricks, and I believe that the claims of Christ Michael might be part of or fit into their potential agenda.

That things like "space ships" coming and suggesting people board them to save their lives may lead people into the same Luciferian styled tortures you seem to "have a clue" about.

Your attacks have hurt me so much though, and you might consider how "Luciferian" psychological attacks such as insulting people the way you have insulted me might also be terrible.
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I believe only a supremacist malevolent faction would ask people to enter fires for example or claim they themselves are "higher". Clearly those are supremacist hierarchal attitudes that may remind one of Caste systems in ancient India for example.

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So ancient India is her system?

Plus, the bible denotes passing children through fires.

Firewalking.

Old hat Sandi. Quit while you're ahead.
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Op, what the hell is going on man. What are you trying to say.


Sorry if I wasn't clear, I might edit the initial post to be more clear.

There are belief systems that are popping up that many claim to be coming from non human entities.

Many people are coming to believe in these belief systems presented by these entities on the basis that an entity that claims to be "higher" or "smarter" is making claims about what they believe is true or not.

There is no reason to trust that if there are these entities that they have any good intentions for human beings, no matter what they claim.

These beliefs become especially dangerous when they seem to suggest things like the benefit of "losing your body", how it would help to "board a space ship and be put to sleep", or how "fire and burning is good and it is what you should seek to attain to" or similar offers of things people should do which may be harmful.

The entities presenting these ideas may actually believe them or may not believe them and are deliberately deceptive, but even if they believe what they claim it doesn't mean anything they say is true or good.

It is most important pay attention to when they are instructing people to do things like board spaceships or "lose your bodies" or suggesting other things on the basis of faith that may be dangerous to human beings.

When any "leap of faith" is suggested, one should pay attention to all the potential risks involved and the negative possibilities, and it might be best to avoid taking any "leaps of faith" when asked and having the choice not to.

Think about the mass suicides with the Heaven's Gate group. That is just one example of how fanatic beliefs possibly inspired by entities claiming to be benevolent can lead to terrible results.

It becomes even more dangerous if the agenda is mixed with actual physical plans to lead people into potential traps while claiming these traps might "save them" or that it is "the only way to survive" and other things like that.

There is no reason to believe these entities are any "higher" than anything else. The idea of some things being "higher" than others in nature is inherently racist, hierarchal, caste like, and seems arbritrary.

What is higher or lower? Who says? Why? Why should it be better to do this or that? There is no reason to believe any claims they are making, but especially not when they are asking people to trust them and take risks based on that trust such as boarding ships, entering fires, losing bodies, or helping them with their plans.
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Not only does she appear to advocate walking into fires, but she also apparently, according to him, has actual physical plans!!
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You quoted me as saying the following:

"It only becomes an issue when they suggest that people take actions that might be dangerous or harmful towards themselves.

I believe only a supremacist malevolent faction would ask people to enter fires for example or claim they themselves are "higher". Clearly those are supremacist hierarchal attitudes that may remind one of Caste systems in ancient India for example."

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Would you like to explain what issue you have with those portions of the quote you had bolded?
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Very good observation! Yes these are Luciferian Satanists of a kind, even if they don't realize it.
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Full context of quote, or rubbish.
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Not only does she appear to advocate walking into fires, but she also apparently, according to him, has actual physical plans!!
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What are you talking about? Did you even read the original post or any of the other things related to quotes included in the original posts?

Why are you accusing me of things?

She has stated that "Christ Michael" does have actual physical plans and that he is working dilligently to impliment them in reality, and that she has worked on what might be called "planning councils" that discuss and determine these plans.

Why are you attacking me like this?
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Not only does she appear to advocate walking into fires, but she also apparently, according to him, has actual physical plans!!
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You didn't answer my question. Nice sidestep and political move.

Are her beliefs "the Caste system of ancient India"?

Because that is what he was referring to for the fire.
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Oh, YOU are offended?? YOU are offended?

Yet you are comparing her beliefs to SUICIDE CULTS and making her out to be saying something SHE IS NOT.

But you poor little thing, YOU are offended.

Boo fucking hoo. What you are doing to her here IS FAR WORSE.

If she wants to risk herself by posting something of her own information, then that's her error. Though somehow, I don't think she knew you'd come along and paint her the way you have in this sick, disgusting thread.

Whether she posts her personal information or not, IT IS NOT YOUR BUSINESS TO DO SO. ESPECIALLY in a thread like this one.

You can say, "NiP is a lady/woman/female" without giving name, age, address, hair color.

Again. Especially in a thread such as this where you assassinate her character in such a way.

I'm offended that you are demonizing her. I'm offended that you are labeling her and anyone who believes even somewhat as she does as Luciferian Satanists.

Do you have ONE FUCKING CLUE the HORRIFIC ACTS that Luciferian Satanists DO?? DO YOU?! Have you EVER been strapped to a table while you had to watch a child be BRUTALLY BEATEN as he or she SCREAMED for mercy and then RAPED??? HAVE YOU??

How fucking DARE you accuse someone of being one of these MONSTERS??

But you have the GALL to tell me that YOU ARE OFFENDED?!

Fine if you think she is being misled. Fine if you disagree. Fine if you genuinely have issues with her beliefs.

SHE IS NOT A SATANIST and IT IS NOT A SUICIDE CULT. STOP accusing her of either one! That's LIBEL and it's illegal.

And if you had but ONE CLUE the HORRIFIC acts that Luciferian Satanist of the REAL variety do, you would NEVER AGAIN so casually claim someone is one.

Talk to me about "offense" when you stop making it sound like this poor woman is some kind of cult leader trying to murder as many people as possible.

Misled, fine. I agree. Even adamantly wrong. Fine. I agree.

Please don't say such harsh things about me like that, its really hurtful and offensive. Please don't report my posts. The information about her was publically stated by her on GLP.


That's HER INFORMATION to post or not post. NOT YOURS.

And especially NOT in a thread where you are so viciously maligning her character.

Your "offense" in the face of what you're saying about her is... laughable. Except that the nature of the way you are painting her is IMMENSELY heinous.


Yes I'm aware of Luciferian acts. They also suggest that "hell is actually heaven" and similar things.

Yes, I'm very offended by your attacks against me and that you reported my post and are constantly stating that I'm trying to do something bad when I'm not intending to do anything bad at all.

I never stated her "address" or "hair color" or anything like that. I explained why I responded to one poster who kept calling her a he. The information was based on what she had publically said on GLP and may not even be true.

This was in order to help them understand how they can better treat her with respect and dignity rather than just discarding her as any ordinary kid on GLP making random claims.

Yes, I know about the horrible acts of Luciferians and their tricks, and I believe that the claims of Christ Michael might be part of or fit into their potential agenda.

That things like "space ships" coming and suggesting people board them to save their lives may lead people into the same Luciferian styled tortures you seem to "have a clue" about.

Your attacks have hurt me so much though, and you might consider how "Luciferian" psychological attacks such as insulting people the way you have insulted me might also be terrible.
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Yes, you know. And you are STILL ACCUSING HER OF IT.

But saying so, is so offensive to you.

Fucking unbelievable.
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Not only does she appear to advocate walking into fires, but she also apparently, according to him, has actual physical plans!!

You didn't answer my question. Nice sidestep and political move.

Are her beliefs "the Caste system of ancient India"?

Because that is what he was referring to for the fire.
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Reading comprehension failure. He said that HER RELIGION COULD LEAD US INTO A SYSTEM THAT WOULD REMIND YOU OF THE CASTE SYSTEM of ancient India.

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Right. Not maligning her AT ALL, are you. Not in the least... aside from her torturing billions of people and being the most dangerous possibility presented.
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What are you talking about? I don't believe she has done anything you are claiming. Do you know if she has tortured billions? That is a scary prospect, but I don't think she has done that at all, nor has she stated that she has done that. So what are you talking about?

I do believe there are dangerous possibilities to be considered.

I'm glad you have realized that I never had any malignant intent. Do you?
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Yes, you know. And you are STILL ACCUSING HER OF IT.
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Could you actually answer my posts Sandi, or are you going to simply ignore them because you're afraid of actually addressing the points?
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Not only does she appear to advocate walking into fires, but she also apparently, according to him, has actual physical plans!!


What are you talking about? Did you even read the original post or any of the other things related to quotes included in the original posts?

Why are you accusing me of things?

She has stated that "Christ Michael" does have actual physical plans and that he is working dilligently to impliment them in reality, and that she has worked on what might be called "planning councils" that discuss and determine these plans.

Why are you attacking me like this?
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Why are you attacking her like this?

Why are you accusing her of being a satanist? Why are you connecting her to suicide cults?

Why are you accusing her of horrific things?
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Reading comprehension failure. He said that HER RELIGION COULD LEAD US INTO A SYSTEM THAT WOULD REMIND YOU OF THE CASTE SYSTEM of ancient India.
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It could? Couldn't it? I don't know, maybe!

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Yes, you know. And you are STILL ACCUSING HER OF IT.

Could you actually answer my posts Sandi, or are you going to simply ignore them because you're afraid of actually addressing the points?
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Make a fucking point that isn't based on "this will lead us into a system that WILL REMIND YOU of India" suddenly magically becoming ABOUT ancient india, and I might take my time on it.

You wanted me to post what I'm talking about. I'm posting what I'm talking about. Be a little more fucking impatient, why don't you.
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Right. Not maligning her AT ALL, are you. Not in the least... aside from her torturing billions of people and being the most dangerous possibility presented.


What are you talking about? I don't believe she has done anything you are claiming. Do you know if she has tortured billions? That is a scary prospect, but I don't think she has done that at all, nor has she stated that she has done that. So what are you talking about?

I do believe there are dangerous possibilities to be considered.

I'm glad you have realized that I never had any malignant intent. Do you?
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You are the one making that claim. BASELESSLY.

You are also the one linking her to suicide cults.

Now you're going to try to lie about it, despite the fact that THAT WAS YOUR VERY OWN QUOTE about her and her "quite likely killing billions" or whatever-the fuck it was you claimed in that post.
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He said that HER RELIGION COULD LEAD US INTO A SYSTEM THAT WOULD REMIND YOU OF THE CASTE SYSTEM of ancient India.
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Actually, no, he said:

I believe only a supremacist malevolent faction would ask people to enter fires for example or claim they themselves are "higher". Clearly those are supremacist hierarchal attitudes that may remind one of Caste systems in ancient India for example.
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Funnily enough, no mention of her religion.

Anywhere.

Just the mention of supremacist malevolent factions doing it.

Like the one in India...

For example.
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Why are you attacking me like this?


Why are you attacking her like this?

Why are you accusing her of being a satanist? Why are you connecting her to suicide cults?

Why are you accusing her of horrific things?
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Good questions, and thanks for asking.

I don't believe I am attacking you at all, but I'd like you to know that I feel you are attacking me, and it hurts me.

If your intention is to hurt and offend me with your comments, you have accomplished that, and you seem to be very good at that.

I am not accusing her of being a Satanist, even if she is and all her beliefs match Satanism or Luciferianism which they may or may not.

I did not "connect" her to anything. I was talking about how certain beliefs can tell people to do things that might lead them to personal harm. Could you read everything I wrote from the start of this thread extremely carefully please? It might also help you form further attacks in a more precise and hurtful manner, if that is something you feel is beneficial to work at.

I never accused her of any horrific things at all. So please stop accusing me of things like that. Your accusation is very dangerous seeming to me, so please stop it.
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She also seems to have mocked and jeered at me for my posts in other threads, which I didn't appreciate either. But nothing offended me more than to suggest that I've disrespected Nobody In Particular in some serious way when I feel I've always made great efforts to show her the utmost respect and care.

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So if I link your religion to suicide cults, claim you are hoping to get millions murdered, claim you are wanting to get people to walk into fires, and then claim you are a Luciferian Satanist... that's treating you with the UTMOST RESPECT AND CARE?!

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that isn't based
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You will find sufficient posts back on page 4.

Giving your condescending attitude I am starting to believe you are the only one attacking people here.

I wasn't even involved, and providing FS with the benefit of the doubt against what appears to be 1/3 of the thread consisting entirely of your overzealous and aggressive posts with more swearing in them than the backyard filth of a pig hut.
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He said that HER RELIGION COULD LEAD US INTO A SYSTEM THAT WOULD REMIND YOU OF THE CASTE SYSTEM of ancient India.

Actually, no, he said:


I believe only a supremacist malevolent faction would ask people to enter fires for example or claim they themselves are "higher". Clearly those are supremacist hierarchal attitudes that may remind one of Caste systems in ancient India for example.

Funnily enough, no mention of her religion.

Anywhere.

Just the mention of supremacist malevolent factions doing it.

Like the one in India...

For example.
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I guess you missed the fact that the whole post is about HER RELIGION and despite his occassional attempt at a disclaimer, he continually assaults HER RELIGION.

He is not making a 'general post' here at all. This is about her and this Michael Aton or whatever his name is that she channels.

You cannot possibly be this obtuse. There is no doubt in anyone's mind but apparently yours, that he is talking about HER RELIGION and the entity she claims to be channeling or in contact with or whatever.

Trying to dispute that is intellectually dishonest and a clear obfuscation of what's going on here. Funny how it's all about her religion until it's inconvenient for you to admit the truth of it being about that.
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He said that HER RELIGION COULD LEAD US INTO A SYSTEM THAT WOULD REMIND YOU OF THE CASTE SYSTEM of ancient India.

Actually, no, he said:


I believe only a supremacist malevolent faction would ask people to enter fires for example or claim they themselves are "higher". Clearly those are supremacist hierarchal attitudes that may remind one of Caste systems in ancient India for example.

Funnily enough, no mention of her religion.

Anywhere.

Just the mention of supremacist malevolent factions doing it.

Like the one in India...

For example.
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Yeah, I believe "supremacist malevolent factions" if there are any, would want to promote ideas that claim that they are "higher" than others, and may also promote things that lead to harm for those they consider "lower". I also believe they could claim that what may harm a person actually benefits them, so that they can be led astray and into danger.

I was also talking about the concept of a possible "supremacist malevolent faction" among non human beings, that believes their race of non human beings is superior to the human beings who are different than them. These non human beings may be made of something like plasma, and so are difficult to see in many ways, but have existed throughout human history. They may also say things that suggest humans look down upon themselvesm, such as making fun of human "bodies" and suggesting it is better to "drop them" or "lose them" and that if they did they would be "higher" or more like them.
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that's treating you with the UTMOST RESPECT AND CARE?!
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No, but attacking someone who isn't being respectful is?

Come on Sandi, you're scolding my ass as well, and I don't even care about NIP or this thread. I'm just trying to get you to stop posting long enough that FreedomStands might stop this thread and send me an email for a discussion on a highly problematic topic where I need his blunt overzealous questioning talents.
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Why are you attacking me like this?


Why are you attacking her like this?

Why are you accusing her of being a satanist? Why are you connecting her to suicide cults?

Why are you accusing her of horrific things?


Good questions, and thanks for asking.

I don't believe I am attacking you at all, but I'd like you to know that I feel you are attacking me, and it hurts me.

If your intention is to hurt and offend me with your comments, you have accomplished that, and you seem to be very good at that.

I am not accusing her of being a Satanist, even if she is and all her beliefs match Satanism or Luciferianism which they may or may not.

I did not "connect" her to anything. I was talking about how certain beliefs can tell people to do things that might lead them to personal harm. Could you read everything I wrote from the start of this thread extremely carefully please? It might also help you form further attacks in a more precise and hurtful manner, if that is something you feel is beneficial to work at.

I never accused her of any horrific things at all. So please stop accusing me of things like that. Your accusation is very dangerous seeming to me, so please stop it.
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What shit. Those are your very own words. I already quoted them repeatedly. You called her a luciferian satanist, lumping her with anyone who believes anything like she does.

You are so full of it. Completely fucking lying out your teeth.
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He said that HER RELIGION COULD LEAD US INTO A SYSTEM THAT WOULD REMIND YOU OF THE CASTE SYSTEM of ancient India.

Actually, no, he said:


I believe only a supremacist malevolent faction would ask people to enter fires for example or claim they themselves are "higher". Clearly those are supremacist hierarchal attitudes that may remind one of Caste systems in ancient India for example.

Funnily enough, no mention of her religion.

Anywhere.

Just the mention of supremacist malevolent factions doing it.

Like the one in India...

For example.


Yeah, I believe "supremacist malevolent factions" if there are any, would want to promote ideas that claim that they are "higher" than others, and may also promote things that lead to harm for those they consider "lower". I also believe they could claim that what may harm a person actually benefits them, so that they can be led astray and into danger.

I was also talking about the concept of a possible "supremacist malevolent faction" among non human beings, that believes their race of non human beings is superior to the human beings who are different than them. These non human beings may be made of something like plasma, and so are difficult to see in many ways, but have existed throughout human history. They may also say things that suggest humans look down upon themselvesm, such as making fun of human "bodies" and suggesting it is better to "drop them" or "lose them" and that if they did they would be "higher" or more like them.
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Yes, and you stated very bluntly that you believe this Michael Aton WHOM SHE CHANNELS or teaches about or whatever word you want to use, is one of these.

This is her religion/spiritual beliefs. You started this thread to attack them. You started this thread to point out how she is being led by demons or whatever extra special "respectful" shit-word you want to paste to it.

This is personal against her, and anyone who saw this thread before you edited in a bunch of extraneous crap KNOWS IT.
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I guess you missed the fact that the whole post is about HER RELIGION and despite his occassional attempt at a disclaimer, he continually assaults HER RELIGION.

He is not making a 'general post' here at all. This is about her and this Michael Aton or whatever his name is that she channels.

You cannot possibly be this obtuse. There is no doubt in anyone's mind but apparently yours, that he is talking about HER RELIGION and the entity she claims to be channeling or in contact with or whatever.

Trying to dispute that is intellectually dishonest and a clear obfuscation of what's going on here. Funny how it's all about her religion until it's inconvenient for you to admit the truth of it being about that.
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No it isn't actually. This thread is about all potentially dangerous belief systems that ask people to take an entities word for what they are suggesting and to take "leaps of faith" that might endanger a person or cause them bodily harm or death.

This post is intended to be "general" but does highlight the example of the beliefs represented by information supposedly received by a non human entity called "Christ Michael". Many people may believe in these claims, and Christ Michael may actually have bad intentions for people while claiming to be good, or may actually believe what he supposedly claims while not realizing how harmful the possibilities might be for people.

I'm sorry if you feel everyones mind is like yours, and I would only hope that is the case if your thinking is beneficial for "anyone".

I don't think any of us are being dishonest, but I do think that your accusations towards me stated as actualities are very dishonest, even if you don't realize it.
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