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BEING LED INTO A TRAP? Here are some possibilities!

 
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She's not as famous as Russ yet, though, so it can't be too bad. chuckle
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LOL..........Yeah, I miss NANCY too!!! lol
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the reptillians will catch our souls and sell us as slaves during the 2012 ascension! YOU MUST PREPARE YOUR MIND TO COMBAT THEIR EVIL FORCES! IT WILL BE TOO LATE SOON
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so far I've been invisible on this thread myself!!! lol

Not really. I've noticed ya.

Too much trench warfare is why you're invisible. Both sides aren't going to change because they refuse to accept any other stance, and both refuse to back down or give up. So it's a special op. type argument where both sides want to win and no-one wants to lose. So there's no point.

It'd stop if people just opt out. Been a moderator long enough to know stubbornness.
 Quoting: Joshua Flynn 1234627


What do you think the "sides" might be if there are any?

I think we shouldn't lose hope due to the creation of a chaotic atmosphere on continuing to present the suggestion that people might want to consider risks and avoid potential personal disaster which is the point of this thread.

It may be a possible tactic to create such a ruckuss in a thread that it completely causes people to forget the subject at hand.

You might consider or wonder why such things happen in these threads, and if perhaps presenting the questions I have presented pose a serious threat to some organizations or groups of people and that there is even a possibility that they don't know what is suggesting to them that they should attack me or do whatever they are feeling justified in doing that is distracting from the topic of this thread.

So please don't give up on me!
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the reptillians will catch our souls and sell us as slaves during the 2012 ascension! YOU MUST PREPARE YOUR MIND TO COMBAT THEIR EVIL FORCES! IT WILL BE TOO LATE SOON
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Thank you for your suggestion! I agree we should think and try to be prepared and careful for a number of possibilities!
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Shocked this thread is still going on. No ground has been made either way.

Just be adults and move on eh? You've both made your points and Sandy has complained apparently (I think I remember reading that in a block of writing somewhere in this thread) so it's in the mods hands now.

Whoever turns out to be right (maybe we'll find out when we're dead?), we've all lost precious time in this thread.

Edit - rong spelin :p


I don't think that we should just ignore the issue of possible people or entities encouraging potentially risky behaviors.

I think that Nobody In Particular's beliefs should be examined very carefully, as there are many people who believe similar things as well and are devoted to being in "service" of these entities, and to try to encourage people to do things which may potentially lead to terrible results.

It wouldn't have been as serious seem if these were merely just beliefs not meant to be manifested as actions. But they want to encourage people to take actions that could be potentially lethal or dangerous, without perhaps realizing these dangers themselves.

For example if there is an entity, human or non human, that is encouraging people to do something, such as enter a beam of light in which they may feel "burning" or to board a spacecraft and be "taken off Earth", then they could have bad intentions with these suggestions and requests if they could present them as real possibilities.

Also consider how these ideas could be used to lead people to their deaths.

For example if someone had a machine that burned people alive but they called that process "ascending" or "body dropping" and then tell people it is both to be desired, and also that the person now invisible is actually "in a better state".

So the danger is there as a possibility. I don't think one should just ignore all this just because Sandy is making major accusations against me and possibly deliberately or non deliberately distracting from the important nature of the questions presented in this thread!
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It's all "swings and roundabouts" though mate. You could also be the one who's wrong and potentially warning people away from a life of enlightenment from possible benelovent beings who have been tarred with the brush of Lucifer by the overzealous clergy.

I make no decision either way as I think both sides of the argument are interesting and based in sound logic (for the most part) but it gets to a point where you have to leave people to their own devices.
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She's not as famous as Russ yet, though, so it can't be too bad. chuckle

LOL..........Yeah, I miss NANCY too!!! lol
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What is the story behind Nancy?
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She's not as famous as Russ yet, though, so it can't be too bad. chuckle

LOL..........Yeah, I miss NANCY too!!! lol
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But we still have EAT and 1947!

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She's not as famous as Russ yet, though, so it can't be too bad. chuckle

LOL..........Yeah, I miss NANCY too!!! lol


What is the story behind Nancy?
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You didn't get to know Nancy Leider, on this board?........she channeled the Zetas!

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It's all "swings and roundabouts" though mate. You could also be the one who's wrong and potentially warning people away from a life of enlightenment from possible benelovent beings who have been tarred with the brush of Lucifer by the overzealous clergy.

I make no decision either way as I think both sides of the argument are interesting and based in sound logic (for the most part) but it gets to a point where you have to leave people to their own devices.
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Yes, but I haven't said "this is definitely the truth" but I think it is important to consider the negative possibilities.

Did you check out my "Inception" thread?

Thread: MOVIE! INCEPTION: SUICIDE CAMPAIGN, MENTAL ATTACKS

This isn't about what is true so much as what is risky.

If someone says "jump into this beam of fire to ascend" one should consider that they might be right as well as they might be wrong, and wonder of the personal value of "ascent" anyway, and all the implications that are being suggested, because one might find that it is entirely arbitrary in the end, while having a greed for being "higher" was a means to let someone trick someone into killing themselves or harming themselves.

So yes, absolutely everything Nobody In Particular has said may be entirely true, but then it is such a risk that it might be too dangerous to take a "leap of faith" and place oneself in the hands of entities who claim to want to help but may want to harm.

I hope you can understand how this is a little different from simply two beliefs being presented that are both said to come to pass automatically.

If someone says everyone will go to hell in the future and there is nothing you can do about it. Then why should one worry? We'll see.

But if someone says "here is a fire, jump into it for your betterment" one should perhaps think why this choice is being imposed at all, why there has to be a leap of faith, how it might be a trick and all the other implications.

The reason Nobody In Particular is an important example is because she claims that very soon Christ Michael will be asking us publically to make this decision, while banning all broadcasting that is contrary to making this decision and basically repeatedly suggesting to people that the only way to save your life is entering onto his ships to be taken to another planet such as Venus, and threatening that if you don't make this choice you are likely to die."

His claims may be true, but I want to give a chance before the supposed communications ban that he claims will happen in case it does.

This means I'm giving her claims great respect and credence and that I am able to believe in the possibility that something may be about to happen, but I can also see that it may be a terrible trap.

That is why this is important to me. Because we are being asked to make a physical, literal, decision to place our physical bodies on board the ships of unknown entities with unknown intentions. It could lead to paradise as they claim, but it could lead to hell, and so you can decide if you want to trust these entities that also claim burning is a good thing.
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She's not as famous as Russ yet, though, so it can't be too bad. chuckle

LOL..........Yeah, I miss NANCY too!!! lol


What is the story behind Nancy?

You didn't get to know Nancy Leider, on this board?
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I guess not! Maybe though. Can you tell me about her and her board history? What's the tale of Nancy Leider!
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She's not as famous as Russ yet, though, so it can't be too bad. chuckle

LOL..........Yeah, I miss NANCY too!!! lol


But we still have EAT and 1947!

This was YOUR life! chick_tract_1,194,298,278
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Would it be alright for me to request that we stay on topic?

By the way, who is Nancy Leider, is she related to this whole type of idea?

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What do you think the "sides" might be if there are any?
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Nu uh. I'm not saying anything or starting anything.

I got far more pressing issues awaiting attention.

I am not 'abandoning' you or anything FreedomStands, I am however priorising a more important issue in development than a couple of people posting.
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but it gets to a point where you have to leave people to their own devices.
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Pretty much this. Once an argument turns trench warfare, all you get is a lot of mud and a very long stalemate.
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But we still have EAT and 1947!


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woohoo........ alien11.........:)

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If you had to pick between the aliens or politicans which would you choose?

I'm going with the aliens...they would have to prove they are not in my best interest...The politicians have already proved otherwise...
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Frankly, there's not very many reasons to trust anything other than science. We've got a lot to learn, but the study of science will, eventually, help us get there.

AND it doesn't matter how long it takes, there are no prizes for timeliness. 20 years, 200 years, 2000 years, etc.

So what..
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Can you tell me about her and her board history? What's the tale of Nancy Leider!
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She actually held 'moderator' status........in order that she could post weekly communications! :)

Most felt that she had gone over the edge though, cause of the whole 'kill your dogs' thing(in order to keep them from suffering what was to come)! Yuk......:(
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She's not as famous as Russ yet, though, so it can't be too bad. chuckle

LOL..........Yeah, I miss NANCY too!!! lol


But we still have EAT and 1947!

This was YOUR life! chick_tract_1,194,298,278


Would it be alright for me to request that we stay on topic?

By the way, who is Nancy Leider, is she related to this whole type of idea?
 Quoting: FreedomStands


Oh, yes. We're supposed to be demonizing poor NiP and claiming she wants to shove people into fires.

Yes, you get right back on topic, I would hate to stray from the important issue of NiP's desire to murder millions of people aboard spacecrafts.

rolleyes
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How about, less than 2 years, with impending doom for all involved, that I am still waiting FreedomStands to send me an email about.

You know? Lives?

Am I like, the only one trying to save people's lives or something?
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If you had to pick between the aliens or politicans which would you choose?

I'm going with the aliens...they would have to prove they are not in my best interest...The politicians have already proved otherwise...
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Trust only the blue aliens or thats what people beleve. alien16
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She's not as famous as Russ yet, though, so it can't be too bad. chuckle

LOL..........Yeah, I miss NANCY too!!! lol


But we still have EAT and 1947!

This was YOUR life! chick_tract_1,194,298,278


Would it be alright for me to request that we stay on topic?

By the way, who is Nancy Leider, is she related to this whole type of idea?


Oh, yes. We're supposed to be demonizing poor NiP and claiming she wants to shove people into fires.

Yes, you get right back on topic, I would hate to stray from the important issue of NiP's desire to murder millions of people aboard spacecrafts.

rolleyes
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That's ridiculous. The argument and FreedomStand's point is there for all to see and I don't see where he's said that at all.

You're being pretty obtuse in your arguing and my estimation of you has gone down an awful lot. Sensationalist much?

A whole lot of fuss for nothing IMO. Quit your whining.
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Oh, yes. We're supposed to be demonizing poor NiP and claiming she wants to shove people into fires.

Yes, you get right back on topic, I would hate to stray from the important issue of NiP's desire to murder millions of people aboard spacecrafts.

rolleyes
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I feel so 'caught in the middle'........on the one hand, I can see Sandi's point of "FS misrepresenting NIP"......while on the other hand: I remember NIP getting banned for demanding that SHE get "moderator" status like Nancy had!

What to do, what to do..........I know! hiding

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That's ridiculous. The argument and FreedomStand's point is there for all to see and I don't see where he's said that at all.

You're being pretty obtuse in your arguing and my estimation of you has gone down an awful lot. Sensationalist much?

A whole lot of fuss for nothing IMO. Quit your whining.
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He's personally attacking her. I'm sorry you're not seeing it, but that doesn't change it. He has twisted her obviously esoteric words into literal fire and has made very obvious connections between what she believes and suicide cults.

He has called her and anyone who believes like her, a luciferian satanist.

If you can't see it, then the good opinion I might have otherwise formed about you just lowered significantly. Especially since the whole luciferian thing is there in blunt, word-for-word black and white. Not even the tiniest bit of comprehension is required to see that one.
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Quit your whining.
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Says the man with "egg on his face"! lol

You want cheese with that wine? ;)
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I feel so 'caught in the middle'........on the one hand, I can see Sandi's point of "FS misrepresenting NIP"......while on the other hand: I remember NIP getting banned for demanding that SHE get "moderator" status like Nancy had!

What to do, what to do..........I know! hiding
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Well, I'm not a big fan of NiP. I think sometimes she's more than a little nuttyburgers.

It's not about liking her.

It's not even about defending her religion, which is frankly kind of scary.

It's about the gross misrepresentation of her. And I mean, these are not minor things. This insinuation that she wants people to burn themselves up to "get rid of their body" is a very serious allegation. It really is.

And try as he might to deny it, he HAS put these allegations together. And it IS personal (again, you don't post a person's personal RL info when it isn't personal towards them).

He has made sure that anyone who hasn't read her stuff fairly extensively would see this thread and think she's some kind of monster who wants to burn people, gas them in space ships, or who leads some kind of monster suicide cult.

Which is pretty fucking extreme, I don't care who you are.

People who've read her stuff wouldn't see it, but anyone who hasn't would be hard-pressed to believe that sometimes he's talking all about her beliefs but other times (undifferentiated times) he's not... and they should know which is which...
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That's ridiculous. The argument and FreedomStand's point is there for all to see and I don't see where he's said that at all.

You're being pretty obtuse in your arguing and my estimation of you has gone down an awful lot. Sensationalist much?

A whole lot of fuss for nothing IMO. Quit your whining.


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violin


He's personally attacking her. I'm sorry you're not seeing it, but that doesn't change it. He has twisted her obviously esoteric words into literal fire and has made very obvious connections between what she believes and suicide cults.

He has called her and anyone who believes like her, a luciferian satanist.

If you can't see it, then the good opinion I might have otherwise formed about you just lowered significantly. Especially since the whole luciferian thing is there in blunt, word-for-word black and white. Not even the tiniest bit of comprehension is required to see that one.
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You see it as a personal attack, I just see it as a disagreement in fundamentals. I don't think his estimation of NiP is right by any stretch of the imagination (like I said in a previous post, I think NiP is an awesome poster and I really do enjoy her threads, possibly more than any other poster on GLP if I'm honest).

What I don't see is how you've taken this to such personal extremes. Maybe what FreedomStands is implying about her belief system is somewhat undesirable but IMO he's not been rude or insidious in his comments, he's merely being honest in as (again IMO...) friendly fashion as he can manage.

All of his points are based in sound logic too. Although I love NiPs posts, I do see how they are prone to flights of fancy.
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Quit your whining.

Says the man with "egg on his face"! lol

You want cheese with that wine? ;)
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Haha, Bree please!
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I feel so 'caught in the middle'........on the one hand, I can see Sandi's point of "FS misrepresenting NIP"......while on the other hand: I remember NIP getting banned for demanding that SHE get "moderator" status like Nancy had!

What to do, what to do..........I know! hiding


Well, I'm not a big fan of NiP. I think sometimes she's more than a little nuttyburgers.

It's not about liking her.

It's not even about defending her religion, which is frankly kind of scary.

It's about the gross misrepresentation of her. And I mean, these are not minor things. This insinuation that she wants people to burn themselves up to "get rid of their body" is a very serious allegation. It really is.

And try as he might to deny it, he HAS put these allegations together. And it IS personal (again, you don't post a person's personal RL info when it isn't personal towards them).

He has made sure that anyone who hasn't read her stuff fairly extensively would see this thread and think she's some kind of monster who wants to burn people, gas them in space ships, or who leads some kind of monster suicide cult.

Which is pretty fucking extreme, I don't care who you are.

People who've read her stuff wouldn't see it, but anyone who hasn't would be hard-pressed to believe that sometimes he's talking all about her beliefs but other times (undifferentiated times) he's not... and they should know which is which...
 Quoting: Sandi_T

I totally agree........that's why when you asked earlier, if you were the only one to see it?, I stepped forth to second your voice!

Although, in defense of FS a little, maybe he is very opinionated toward NIP, to the extreme that caused him to overstate his case????

I hope you'll cut him a little slack Sandi.......us humans tend to practice in "imperfection"! lol :(
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What do you think the "sides" might be if there are any?

Nu uh. I'm not saying anything or starting anything.

I got far more pressing issues awaiting attention.

I am not 'abandoning' you or anything FreedomStands, I am however priorising a more important issue in development than a couple of people posting.
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Ok! Thank you for sticking around, I appreciate it! I really enjoy your presence here! What is the more important issue so we can discuss that here as well?
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