Shocked this thread is still going on. No ground has been made either way.

Just be adults and move on eh? You've both made your points and Sandy has complained apparently (I think I remember reading that in a block of writing somewhere in this thread) so it's in the mods hands now.

Whoever turns out to be right (maybe we'll find out when we're dead?), we've all lost precious time in this thread.

Edit - rong spelin :p