God is for weak minded people who are afraid of dying

wat?

Jesus said... death is not final. There comes a second death for the wicked. That will be final.

I see.

Eventually, you'll have to choose between the two though.

Your a pretty cool dude Grumpy Old Bastard.

Most would have hurled nasty insults my way over that post.

And you didn't.

That say's a great deal about your character.

Despite your abrasive approach toward God and those who believe in him............

I like you.

~Zeus

The universe would be the stars and planets, nothing cant be the universe that is the infinite

Thanks for that, but I'm really not interested in what Jesus said.............

atheism is for weak minded people who are afraid of God.

I respond with similar vigour, politly or foul mouthed, depending on the post.

My dad is bigger than yours!!! PLEASE!!!

It's a game we all live on mother and we have been playing war for a long time but what we didnt/don't realize is we are fighting this war internally with ourselves out of fear, if u believe we are all mirrors of ourselves. God created one race we created racism. We are one. Don't think feel... Bruce lee

Here is a sample list of atheists - not many weak ones there

Vincent Hallinan (1896–1992): American lawyer who ran for President of the United States in 1952, the third highest polling candidate in the election.[49]
Evan Harris (1965–): British Liberal Democrat politician and MP.[50]
Roy Hattersley PC (1932–): British Labour Party politician, author and journalist, Deputy Leader of the Labour Party 1983–1992.[51]
George Hawi (1938–2005): Lebanese politician and former secretary general of the Lebanese Communist Party.[52]
Bill Hayden (1933–): Governor-General of Australia (1989–1996).[53].[54]
Theodor Herzl (1860–1904): Austro-Hungarian Jewish journalist and founder of modern political Zionism.[55]
Douglas Houghton PC CH (1898–1996): British Labour politician.[56].
Enver Hoxha (1908–1985): Communist ruler who declared Albania the first atheist state, and who has been identified as an "arch-atheist."[57][58]
Robert Hughes, Baron Hughes of Woodside (1932–): British Labour politician.[59]
Nilde Iotti (1920–1999): Italian politician, the first woman to became president of the Italian Chamber of Deputies for three consecutive legislatures 1979–1992.[60]
Dale Jackaman (1956–): Canadian politician.[61]
Tommy Jackson (1879–1955): English founder of the Socialist Party of Great Britain and later the Communist Party of Great Britain.[62]
Janet Jagan (1920–2009): American-born socialist politician, Prime Minister and then President of Guyana.[63]
Zoran Janković (1953–): Slovenian businessman and current mayor of Ljubljana, the capital of Slovenia.[64]
Jiang Zemin (1926–): Chinese communist politician, General Secretary of the Communist Party of China 1989–2002 and President of China 1993–2003.[65]
Joel Joffe, Baron Joffe CBE (1932–): South Africa-born British Labour peer in the House of Lords.[66]
Sir Reginald Johnston (1874–1938): Scottish diplomat and tutor of Puyi, the last emperor of China, later appointed as commissioner of British-held Weihaiwei.[67]
Kanimozhi (1968–): Indian politician and poet, and daughter of the Tamil Nadu Chief Minister M. Karunanidhi.[68]
M. Karunanidhi (1924–): Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu.[69][70]
Jim Kemmy (1936–1997): Irish socialist politician.[71]
Nikita Khrushchev (1894–1971): Soviet General Secretary, 1953-1964.[72][73]
Kim Jong-il (1941–): Korean politician, leader of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea and officially referred to as the "Dear Leader".[74]
Oona King (1967–): Former Labour MP for Bethnal Green and Bow (1997-2005).[75]
Neil Kinnock PC (1942–): British Labour politician, Leader of the Opposition and Labour Party leader 1983–1992.[76]
Aleksander Kwaśniewski (1954–): Former President of Poland (1995-2005).[77]
GRUMP OLD BASTARD GLP
Vladimir Ilyich Lenin (1870—1924): Marxist revolutionary, Bolshevik Leader and President of the All Russian Congress of Peoples' Soviets. Lenin considered atheist propaganda to be essential to promoting communism.[78]
Ken Livingstone (1945–): Mayor of London 2000-08.[79]
Alexander Lukashenko (1954–): President of Belarus, describes himself as "an Orthodox atheist."[80]
Heather Mac Donald (c.1956–): American writer and lawyer, member of the Manhattan Institute and author of The Burden of Bad Ideas: How Modern Intellectuals Misshape Our Society.[81]
Gus Macdonald, Baron Macdonald of Tradeston CBE, PC (1940–56): distinguished British Labour politician.[82]
Mao Zedong (1893–1976): was a Chinese military and political leader, who led the Communist Party of China to victory in the Chinese Civil War, and was the leader of the People’s Republic of China from its establishment in 1949 until his death in 1976. Under his leadership, China officially became an atheist state.[83][84][85]
Karl Marx (1818–83): a 19th-century philosopher, political economist, sociologist, political theorist, often called the father of communism.[86]
John Maxton, Baron Maxton (1936–): Scottish politician, MP and now member of the House of Lords.[87][88]
David Miliband (1965–): British Labour politician, Foreign Secretary since 2007.[89]
Montague Miller (1839–1920): Australian unionist, secularist and revolutionary socialist.[90]
Violet Milner (1872–1958): English Edwardian society Lady and editor of the political monthly, National Review.[91]
Slobodan Milošević (1941–2006): Serbian politician, former President of Serbia and of Yugoslavia.[92]
John Morley, 1st Viscount Morley of Blackburn OM, PC (1838–1923): British Liberal statesman, writer and newspaper editor.[93]
Mo Mowlam (1949–2005): Former Secretary of State for Northern Ireland.[94]
Elaine Murphy, Baroness Murphy (1949–2005): British politician and a member of the House of Lords, and a doctor and academic, formerly Professor of Psychiatry of Old Age at Guy's Hospital.[95]
Benito Mussolini (1883–1945): Fascist dictator of Italy.[96]
Jawaharlal Nehru (1889–1964): First prime minister of India (1947–1964). [97]
Barack Obama, Sr. (1936–1982): A senior economist for the Kenyan government, ex-Muslim, and father of United States President Barack Obama.[98]
Culbert Olson (1876–1962): American politician and Governor of California (1939–1943).[99]
Periyar E. V. Ramasamy, known as Periyar (1879–1973): Indian social reformer and politician, the 'Socrates of South East Asia', who founded the Self-Respect Movement and Dravidar Kazhagam. [100]
Marion Phillips (1881–1932): Australia-born Labour Party politician and British Member of Parliament.[101]
Phil Piratin (1907–1995): British member of the Communist Party of Great Britain (CPGB) and one of their few Members of Parliament.[102]
Michael Portillo former British Member of Parliament for the Conservative party, former Minister of Defence. Now a TV writer and presenter whose work includes UK Channel 4's documentary Christianity: A History - Rome [103]
Pol Pot, birthname Saloth Sar (1925?–1998): genocidal dictator of Cambodia.[104]
Santiago Casares Quiroga (1884–1950): Spanish politician, Prime Minister of Spain from May 13 to July 19, 1936.[105]
Ivica Racan (1944–2007): former Croatian leftist politician who led the Social Democratic Party of Croatia between 1989 up to 2007. He was also the last leader and democratic transformer of the League of Communists of Croatia. [106]
Zbigniew Religa (1938–2009): prominent Polish cardiac surgeon, pioneer in human heart transplantation and a Minister of Health of the Republic of Poland.[107]
Sir Dove-Myer Robinson (1901–1989): New Zealand politician, Mayor of Auckland from 1959–1965 and 1968–1980.[108]
Gilbert Romme (1750–1795): French politician and mathematician who developed the French Republican Calendar.[109]
Proinsias De Rossa (1940–): Irish politician, former President of the Workers' Party, leader of Democratic Left, and later a senior member of the Labour Party.[110]
Manabendra Nath Roy (1887–1954): born Narendra Nath Bhattacharya, popularly known as M. N. Roy, was a Bengali Indian revolutionary, internationally known political theorist and activist, founder of the Communist parties in Mexico and India. He later denounced communism, as exponent of the philosophy of radical humanism.[111]
Phil Sawford (1950–): British politician and former Member of Parliament for Kettering.[112]
Brian Sedgemore (1937–): former left-wing British Labour Party politician.[113]
Hanna Sheehy-Skeffington (1877–1946): Irish suffragist and nationalist.[114]
Owen Sheehy-Skeffington (1909–1970): Irish university lecturer and Senator.[115]
Clare Short (1946–): British politician, former Labour Secretary of State for International Development, now an Independent MP.[116]
Bhagat Singh (1907–1931): Indian freedom fighter. Wrote a pamphlet entitled Why I am an atheist.[117]
Dennis Skinner (1932–): British politician, who has been the Labour Member of Parliament for Bolsover since 1970.[118]
Joe Slovo (1926–1995): South African Communist politician, leader of the South African Communist Party and leading member of the African National Congress.[119]
Hedi Stadlen (1916–2004): Austrian Jewish political activist, philosopher and musicologist.[120]
Joseph Stalin: General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union's Central Committee from 1922 until his death in 1953..[121]
Pete Stark (1931–): U.S. Representative (D-CA), the first openly atheist member of Congress.[122]
Harkishan Singh Surjeet (1916–2008): Indian politician, General Secretary of the Communist Party of India (Marxist) from 1992 to 2005 and a member of the party's Polit Bureau from 1964 to 2008.[123]
Veton Surroi (1961–): Kosovo Albanian publicist and politician.[124]
Eddie Tabash is an American lawyer and atheist activist and debater.[125]
Josip Broz Tito (1892–1980)President of the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (1953-1980)
Peter Tatchell, human rights activist[126]
William Thompson (1775–1833): Irish socialist and economist.[127]
Xuan Thuy (1912–1985): North Vietnamese political figure, foreign minister for North Vietnam 1963–65, official leader of the delegation to the secret talks with Henry Kissinger, and the main negotiator at the earliest meetings with Kissinger.[128]
Palmiro Togliatti (1893–1964): Italian politician, the leader of Italian Communist Party from 1927 to his death in 1964.[129]
William Trenwith (1846–1925): Australian trade union official and labour movement politician.[130]
Leon Trotsky (1879–1940): Marxist theorist.[131]
Erkki Tuomioja (1946–): Finnish politician, Minister for Foreign Affairs 2000–2007.[132]
Frederick Vosper (1869–1901): Australian newspaper journalist and proprietor, and politician, known for his ardent views and support of Australian republicanism, federalism and trade unionism.[133]
Bengt Westerberg (1943–): Swedish politician, leader of the Liberal People's Party from 1983 to 1995. Minister for Social Affairs and Deputy Prime Minister from 1991 to 1994. Currently holds office as the Deputy President of the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies in Geneva, Switzerland.[134]
Phillip Whitehead (1937–2005): British Labour politician, television producer and writer.[135]
Alan Wolfe (circa 1945–,[136]): American political scientist and sociologist, director of the Boisi Center for Religion and American Public Life.[137]
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Full list here [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Last Edited by Grumpy Old Bastard on 01/19/2011 01:42 PM

It's simple those who do not live from the heart/love far more intelligent then the mind we will not make the trip we are causing much suffering on this planet right now and we walk around blind trying to make sense of it with the mind this cannot be done the mind can't comprehend. We fight to hold on to our securities/trivial rather being in ignorance then being aware.

sounds good to you!

why do you respond to everyone else but not me? What have I done?

toughen up mate, you post is too deep and I'm too tired to answer properly

The same could be said for bitter grumpy old fools who choose to prey on the weak. Your post says more about you than those you attack. What your kind is afraid of the most is letting things live and shutting the fuck up.

I'm defending, admittedly with vigour, but defending nevertheless.

I'm deliberately being a complete pain in the arse, call in revenge or a taste of your own medicine - SUCK IT UP THE RELIGITARDS

Last Edited by Grumpy Old Bastard on 01/19/2011 02:06 PM

Religitard, of what may i ask? Unlike you I can observe as your uninspiring picture or your stupid sig which is by all means too loud. After all who else here really wants to here what some douchebag prick thinks of others.

From a hater to wannabe troll don't try to play the game. Suck it up, now when you talk like that it's obvious which end of the stick you like the most.

You see stars and planets. From that you assume a bunch of things instead of observing what's already out there. Therein lies the fundamental flaw in your reasoning - you are taking the version of how you think things are, and applying it to the world around you, instead of seeing the world around you and applying it to your ideals within.

You can never hope to mentally evolve by continuing on with your existing paradigm - the universe is vast, so vast that it may seem infinite to a human but it's not actually infinite. It's just very very very very very big.

When you look around you, you aren't even seeing one millionth of one reality, and that one tiny sliver that you are capable of observing, you aren't actually learning from. Instead you continue on with your idea of how things should be and attempting to externalize them. The universe simply doesn't work that way, but that's a lesson one has to learn with time. Some day you may grasp this difference in reasoning, but it doesn't seem like today is that day.

You see the world how u are not how it really is.

I'm not Alone on this my brother.

As charlie browns teacher would say "Waa..wa..wa...waaaa..."

I see. Misconception wisdom does not come with age, wisdom is the application of knowledge.

Yes; I was aware that you had gone to bed; that was the joke; gone to ground; spudhead; spuds are grown in the soil.

Anyway so you are still alive; looks like the devil looks after his own; be careful you may meet him some day; he prefers his spuds roasted. Nice to see you have the good manners to reply to peoples posts.


But I have good news to tell you; Jesus loves you.

Do you really believe this does it satisfy your hunger? What hate do u hold in ur heart that makes u desire such things?

Not to mention all of the other martyrs, and not just Christian ones. It seems to me that you would have to be incredibly strong minded and fearless to face what they did when all they had to do was renounce their faith to escape it.

Why dont you just ignore my post then?

grasshopper bows to your superiority complex master

well thats just dandy my friend