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Zeus2573 User ID: 1233331 United States 01/19/2011 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I don't believe in god, you think I believe in satan? Its all part of the same marketing campaign Quoting: Grumpy Old BastardI see. Eventually, you'll have to choose between the two though. Your a pretty cool dude Grumpy Old Bastard. Most would have hurled nasty insults my way over that post. And you didn't. That say's a great deal about your character. Despite your abrasive approach toward God and those who believe in him............ I like you. ~Zeus Zeus2573 was an alter ego that never should have existed in the first place. Therefore, he has been laid to rest, never to return again. Brent has taken his place. ______________________________________ God is dead. ~Friedrich Nietzsche - 1882 Friedrich Nietzsche is dead. ~God - August 25, 1900 _______________________________________________________________ Before God we are equally wise, and equally foolish. ~ Albert Einstein. |
TheRealUFOMan User ID: 1210499 United States 01/19/2011 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The infinite nothingness beyond the stars provides an infinite possibility for omnipotence Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1060015Therefore the infinite vastness of "space" represents the infinite power of God.. Compared to the "infinite" vastness of space we are nothing This is exactly what omnipotence is. Space the mysterious philosophical portrait of infinite power (this is beyond all known stars) How would you respond to these facts OP? I welcome your debate I can't, but what I will say is this. You claim there is one god for the whole universe........ YOU CAN'T EVEN AGREE ON ONE RELIGION ON THIS LITTLE ROCK CALLED EARTH...... At least when a real ufo with real ET's shows up, all the religions will unite and stop fighting each other, and pick on the aliens "god" The infinite proof of God provides that there is an infinite amount of consideration into pain, and suffering. I cannot, I do not have infinite logic. But I do know that if you study history you can study why pain and suffering has spread so quickly. In the ancient times men fought to secure territories, but today they occur for more mysterious reasons. I won't argue geo-poltiics with you my friend we both know that's an entire day of debate. But we can agree there are many things that we cannot understand in the infinite of God's space i'm really not interested in philosophising with you on your subject. I was only responding in philosophical context to your thread. I only suggest that logic can provide no other alternative to God maybe another time, when I'm not so tired You seem to have enough energy to respond to other posts, don't leave me out my friend Your logic is terrible. You don't even understand what infinite is. Your brain is too limited to even understand the basics of how the universe works. The universe would be the stars and planets, nothing cant be the universe that is the infinite No One On GLP Could Have Known The Whole Time I Was An Ambassador To Them If You Book It, They Will Come What Energy Caused The Universe To Come Into Place Almost Instantaneously? |
Grumpy Old Bastard (OP) User ID: 907315 Ireland 01/19/2011 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus said... death is not final. There comes a second death for the wicked. That will be final. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1232215Thanks for that, but I'm really not interested in what Jesus said............. If you signature is too loud or too long YOU WILL BE BANNED from MY posts |
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Grumpy Old Bastard (OP) User ID: 907315 Ireland 01/19/2011 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I don't believe in god, you think I believe in satan? Its all part of the same marketing campaign Quoting: Zeus2573I see. Eventually, you'll have to choose between the two though. Your a pretty cool dude Grumpy Old Bastard. Most would have hurled nasty insults my way over that post. And you didn't. That say's a great deal about your character. Despite your abrasive approach toward God and those who believe in him............ I like you. ~Zeus I respond with similar vigour, politly or foul mouthed, depending on the post. If you signature is too loud or too long YOU WILL BE BANNED from MY posts |
Grumpy Old Bastard (OP) User ID: 907315 Ireland 01/19/2011 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All gods all religions are for the weak and vunerable, so grow a pair of balls and accept that when you die, you rot....... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1233159atheism is for weak minded people who are afraid of God. My dad is bigger than yours!!! PLEASE!!! If you signature is too loud or too long YOU WILL BE BANNED from MY posts |
Jamie User ID: 1236061 Canada 01/19/2011 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Judging another does not define them it defines you. What u do to the out u do to the in, war is a good example. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1060015wat? It's a game we all live on mother and we have been playing war for a long time but what we didnt/don't realize is we are fighting this war internally with ourselves out of fear, if u believe we are all mirrors of ourselves. God created one race we created racism. We are one. Don't think feel... Bruce lee |
Grumpy Old Bastard (OP) User ID: 907315 Ireland 01/19/2011 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All gods all religions are for the weak and vunerable, so grow a pair of balls and accept that when you die, you rot....... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1233159atheism is for weak minded people who are afraid of God. Here is a sample list of atheists - not many weak ones there Vincent Hallinan (18961992): American lawyer who ran for President of the United States in 1952, the third highest polling candidate in the election.[49] Evan Harris (1965): British Liberal Democrat politician and MP.[50] Roy Hattersley PC (1932): British Labour Party politician, author and journalist, Deputy Leader of the Labour Party 19831992.[51] George Hawi (19382005): Lebanese politician and former secretary general of the Lebanese Communist Party.[52] Bill Hayden (1933): Governor-General of Australia (19891996).[53].[54] Theodor Herzl (18601904): Austro-Hungarian Jewish journalist and founder of modern political Zionism.[55] Douglas Houghton PC CH (18981996): British Labour politician.[56]. Enver Hoxha (19081985): Communist ruler who declared Albania the first atheist state, and who has been identified as an "arch-atheist."[57][58] Robert Hughes, Baron Hughes of Woodside (1932): British Labour politician.[59] Nilde Iotti (19201999): Italian politician, the first woman to became president of the Italian Chamber of Deputies for three consecutive legislatures 19791992.[60] Dale Jackaman (1956): Canadian politician.[61] Tommy Jackson (18791955): English founder of the Socialist Party of Great Britain and later the Communist Party of Great Britain.[62] Janet Jagan (19202009): American-born socialist politician, Prime Minister and then President of Guyana.[63] Zoran Janković (1953): Slovenian businessman and current mayor of Ljubljana, the capital of Slovenia.[64] Jiang Zemin (1926): Chinese communist politician, General Secretary of the Communist Party of China 19892002 and President of China 19932003.[65] Joel Joffe, Baron Joffe CBE (1932): South Africa-born British Labour peer in the House of Lords.[66] Sir Reginald Johnston (18741938): Scottish diplomat and tutor of Puyi, the last emperor of China, later appointed as commissioner of British-held Weihaiwei.[67] Kanimozhi (1968): Indian politician and poet, and daughter of the Tamil Nadu Chief Minister M. Karunanidhi.[68] M. Karunanidhi (1924): Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu.[69][70] Jim Kemmy (19361997): Irish socialist politician.[71] Nikita Khrushchev (18941971): Soviet General Secretary, 1953-1964.[72][73] Kim Jong-il (1941): Korean politician, leader of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea and officially referred to as the "Dear Leader".[74] Oona King (1967): Former Labour MP for Bethnal Green and Bow (1997-2005).[75] Neil Kinnock PC (1942): British Labour politician, Leader of the Opposition and Labour Party leader 19831992.[76] Aleksander Kwaśniewski (1954): Former President of Poland (1995-2005).[77] GRUMP OLD BASTARD GLP Vladimir Ilyich Lenin (18701924): Marxist revolutionary, Bolshevik Leader and President of the All Russian Congress of Peoples' Soviets. Lenin considered atheist propaganda to be essential to promoting communism.[78] Ken Livingstone (1945): Mayor of London 2000-08.[79] Alexander Lukashenko (1954): President of Belarus, describes himself as "an Orthodox atheist."[80] Heather Mac Donald (c.1956): American writer and lawyer, member of the Manhattan Institute and author of The Burden of Bad Ideas: How Modern Intellectuals Misshape Our Society.[81] Gus Macdonald, Baron Macdonald of Tradeston CBE, PC (194056): distinguished British Labour politician.[82] Mao Zedong (18931976): was a Chinese military and political leader, who led the Communist Party of China to victory in the Chinese Civil War, and was the leader of the Peoples Republic of China from its establishment in 1949 until his death in 1976. Under his leadership, China officially became an atheist state.[83][84][85] Karl Marx (181883): a 19th-century philosopher, political economist, sociologist, political theorist, often called the father of communism.[86] John Maxton, Baron Maxton (1936): Scottish politician, MP and now member of the House of Lords.[87][88] David Miliband (1965): British Labour politician, Foreign Secretary since 2007.[89] Montague Miller (18391920): Australian unionist, secularist and revolutionary socialist.[90] Violet Milner (18721958): English Edwardian society Lady and editor of the political monthly, National Review.[91] Slobodan Miloević (19412006): Serbian politician, former President of Serbia and of Yugoslavia.[92] John Morley, 1st Viscount Morley of Blackburn OM, PC (18381923): British Liberal statesman, writer and newspaper editor.[93] Mo Mowlam (19492005): Former Secretary of State for Northern Ireland.[94] Elaine Murphy, Baroness Murphy (19492005): British politician and a member of the House of Lords, and a doctor and academic, formerly Professor of Psychiatry of Old Age at Guy's Hospital.[95] Benito Mussolini (18831945): Fascist dictator of Italy.[96] Jawaharlal Nehru (18891964): First prime minister of India (19471964). [97] Barack Obama, Sr. (19361982): A senior economist for the Kenyan government, ex-Muslim, and father of United States President Barack Obama.[98] Culbert Olson (18761962): American politician and Governor of California (19391943).[99] Periyar E. V. Ramasamy, known as Periyar (18791973): Indian social reformer and politician, the 'Socrates of South East Asia', who founded the Self-Respect Movement and Dravidar Kazhagam. [100] Marion Phillips (18811932): Australia-born Labour Party politician and British Member of Parliament.[101] Phil Piratin (19071995): British member of the Communist Party of Great Britain (CPGB) and one of their few Members of Parliament.[102] Michael Portillo former British Member of Parliament for the Conservative party, former Minister of Defence. Now a TV writer and presenter whose work includes UK Channel 4's documentary Christianity: A History - Rome [103] Pol Pot, birthname Saloth Sar (1925?1998): genocidal dictator of Cambodia.[104] Santiago Casares Quiroga (18841950): Spanish politician, Prime Minister of Spain from May 13 to July 19, 1936.[105] Ivica Racan (19442007): former Croatian leftist politician who led the Social Democratic Party of Croatia between 1989 up to 2007. He was also the last leader and democratic transformer of the League of Communists of Croatia. [106] Zbigniew Religa (19382009): prominent Polish cardiac surgeon, pioneer in human heart transplantation and a Minister of Health of the Republic of Poland.[107] Sir Dove-Myer Robinson (19011989): New Zealand politician, Mayor of Auckland from 19591965 and 19681980.[108] Gilbert Romme (17501795): French politician and mathematician who developed the French Republican Calendar.[109] Proinsias De Rossa (1940): Irish politician, former President of the Workers' Party, leader of Democratic Left, and later a senior member of the Labour Party.[110] Manabendra Nath Roy (18871954): born Narendra Nath Bhattacharya, popularly known as M. N. Roy, was a Bengali Indian revolutionary, internationally known political theorist and activist, founder of the Communist parties in Mexico and India. He later denounced communism, as exponent of the philosophy of radical humanism.[111] Phil Sawford (1950): British politician and former Member of Parliament for Kettering.[112] Brian Sedgemore (1937): former left-wing British Labour Party politician.[113] Hanna Sheehy-Skeffington (18771946): Irish suffragist and nationalist.[114] Owen Sheehy-Skeffington (19091970): Irish university lecturer and Senator.[115] Clare Short (1946): British politician, former Labour Secretary of State for International Development, now an Independent MP.[116] Bhagat Singh (19071931): Indian freedom fighter. Wrote a pamphlet entitled Why I am an atheist.[117] Dennis Skinner (1932): British politician, who has been the Labour Member of Parliament for Bolsover since 1970.[118] Joe Slovo (19261995): South African Communist politician, leader of the South African Communist Party and leading member of the African National Congress.[119] Hedi Stadlen (19162004): Austrian Jewish political activist, philosopher and musicologist.[120] Joseph Stalin: General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union's Central Committee from 1922 until his death in 1953..[121] Pete Stark (1931): U.S. Representative (D-CA), the first openly atheist member of Congress.[122] Harkishan Singh Surjeet (19162008): Indian politician, General Secretary of the Communist Party of India (Marxist) from 1992 to 2005 and a member of the party's Polit Bureau from 1964 to 2008.[123] Veton Surroi (1961): Kosovo Albanian publicist and politician.[124] Eddie Tabash is an American lawyer and atheist activist and debater.[125] Josip Broz Tito (18921980)President of the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (1953-1980) Peter Tatchell, human rights activist[126] William Thompson (17751833): Irish socialist and economist.[127] Xuan Thuy (19121985): North Vietnamese political figure, foreign minister for North Vietnam 196365, official leader of the delegation to the secret talks with Henry Kissinger, and the main negotiator at the earliest meetings with Kissinger.[128] Palmiro Togliatti (18931964): Italian politician, the leader of Italian Communist Party from 1927 to his death in 1964.[129] William Trenwith (18461925): Australian trade union official and labour movement politician.[130] Leon Trotsky (18791940): Marxist theorist.[131] Erkki Tuomioja (1946): Finnish politician, Minister for Foreign Affairs 20002007.[132] Frederick Vosper (18691901): Australian newspaper journalist and proprietor, and politician, known for his ardent views and support of Australian republicanism, federalism and trade unionism.[133] Bengt Westerberg (1943): Swedish politician, leader of the Liberal People's Party from 1983 to 1995. Minister for Social Affairs and Deputy Prime Minister from 1991 to 1994. Currently holds office as the Deputy President of the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies in Geneva, Switzerland.[134] Phillip Whitehead (19372005): British Labour politician, television producer and writer.[135] Alan Wolfe (circa 1945,[136]): American political scientist and sociologist, director of the Boisi Center for Religion and American Public Life.[137] [edit] Notes Full list here [link to en.wikipedia.org] Last Edited by Grumpy Old Bastard on 01/19/2011 01:42 PM If you signature is too loud or too long YOU WILL BE BANNED from MY posts |
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Grumpy Old Bastard (OP) User ID: 907315 Ireland 01/19/2011 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's simple those who do not live from the heart/love far more intelligent then the mind we will not make the trip we are causing much suffering on this planet right now and we walk around blind trying to make sense of it with the mind this cannot be done the mind can't comprehend. We fight to hold on to our securities/trivial rather being in ignorance then being aware. Quoting: Jamie 1236061sounds good to you! If you signature is too loud or too long YOU WILL BE BANNED from MY posts |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1210277 United States 01/19/2011 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have no logic! Why do I make that statement? Because the martyrs during the time of the roman empire faced cruel death. Could you be burned at the stake, or be eaten alive by wild dogs, or lions? Do you have a strength in you as they did, or do you believe in something strongly enough to give your life for it. All gods all religions are for the weak and vunerable, so grow a pair of balls and accept that when you die, you rot....... Quoting: Grumpy Old Bastard |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1233761 Poland 01/19/2011 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All gods all religions are for the weak and vunerable, so grow a pair of balls and accept that when you die, you rot....... Quoting: Grumpy Old BastardThe same could be said for bitter grumpy old fools who choose to prey on the weak. Your post says more about you than those you attack. What your kind is afraid of the most is letting things live and shutting the fuck up. |
Grumpy Old Bastard (OP) User ID: 907315 Ireland 01/19/2011 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have no logic! Why do I make that statement? Because the martyrs during the time of the roman empire faced cruel death. Could you be burned at the stake, or be eaten alive by wild dogs, or lions? Do you have a strength in you as they did, or do you believe in something strongly enough to give your life for it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1210277All gods all religions are for the weak and vunerable, so grow a pair of balls and accept that when you die, you rot....... NO I couldn't or wouldn't - BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE Last Edited by Grumpy Old Bastard on 01/19/2011 02:02 PM If you signature is too loud or too long YOU WILL BE BANNED from MY posts |
Grumpy Old Bastard (OP) User ID: 907315 Ireland 01/19/2011 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All gods all religions are for the weak and vunerable, so grow a pair of balls and accept that when you die, you rot....... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1233761The same could be said for bitter grumpy old fools who choose to prey on the weak. Your post says more about you than those you attack. What your kind is afraid of the most is letting things live and shutting the fuck up. I'm defending, admittedly with vigour, but defending nevertheless. I'm deliberately being a complete pain in the arse, call in revenge or a taste of your own medicine - SUCK IT UP THE RELIGITARDS Last Edited by Grumpy Old Bastard on 01/19/2011 02:06 PM If you signature is too loud or too long YOU WILL BE BANNED from MY posts |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1233761 Poland 01/19/2011 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm deliberately being a complete pain in the arse, call in revenge or a taste of your own medicine - SUCK IT UP THE RELIGITARD Quoting: Grumpy Old BastardReligitard, of what may i ask? Unlike you I can observe as your uninspiring picture or your stupid sig which is by all means too loud. After all who else here really wants to here what some douchebag prick thinks of others. From a hater to wannabe troll don't try to play the game. Suck it up, now when you talk like that it's obvious which end of the stick you like the most. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1060015 United States 01/19/2011 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The universe would be the stars and planets, nothing cant be the universe that is the infinite Quoting: TheRealUFOManYou see stars and planets. From that you assume a bunch of things instead of observing what's already out there. Therein lies the fundamental flaw in your reasoning - you are taking the version of how you think things are, and applying it to the world around you, instead of seeing the world around you and applying it to your ideals within. You can never hope to mentally evolve by continuing on with your existing paradigm - the universe is vast, so vast that it may seem infinite to a human but it's not actually infinite. It's just very very very very very big. When you look around you, you aren't even seeing one millionth of one reality, and that one tiny sliver that you are capable of observing, you aren't actually learning from. Instead you continue on with your idea of how things should be and attempting to externalize them. The universe simply doesn't work that way, but that's a lesson one has to learn with time. Some day you may grasp this difference in reasoning, but it doesn't seem like today is that day. |
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Jamie User ID: 1236061 Canada 01/19/2011 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's simple those who do not live from the heart/love far more intelligent then the mind we will not make the trip we are causing much suffering on this planet right now and we walk around blind trying to make sense of it with the mind this cannot be done the mind can't comprehend. We fight to hold on to our securities/trivial rather being in ignorance then being aware. Quoting: Grumpy Old Bastardsounds good to you! I'm not Alone on this my brother. |
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Heavyheadfred User ID: 1236137 United Kingdom 01/19/2011 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes; I was aware that you had gone to bed; that was the joke; gone to ground; spudhead; spuds are grown in the soil. Anyway so you are still alive; looks like the devil looks after his own; be careful you may meet him some day; he prefers his spuds roasted. Nice to see you have the good manners to reply to peoples posts. But I have good news to tell you; Jesus loves you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1236061 Canada 01/19/2011 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All gods all religions are for the weak and vunerable, so grow a pair of balls and accept that when you die, you rot....... Quoting: shezatripAs charlie browns teacher would say "Waa..wa..wa...waaaa..." Do you really believe this does it satisfy your hunger? What hate do u hold in ur heart that makes u desire such things? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1218297 United States 01/19/2011 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have no logic! Why do I make that statement? Because the martyrs during the time of the roman empire faced cruel death.. Quoting: Grumpy Old BastardNO I couldn't or wouldn't - BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE Not to mention all of the other martyrs, and not just Christian ones. It seems to me that you would have to be incredibly strong minded and fearless to face what they did when all they had to do was renounce their faith to escape it. |
Grumpy Old Bastard (OP) User ID: 907315 Ireland 01/19/2011 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm deliberately being a complete pain in the arse, call in revenge or a taste of your own medicine - SUCK IT UP THE RELIGITARD Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1233761Religitard, of what may i ask? Unlike you I can observe as your uninspiring picture or your stupid sig which is by all means too loud. After all who else here really wants to here what some douchebag prick thinks of others. From a hater to wannabe troll don't try to play the game. Suck it up, now when you talk like that it's obvious which end of the stick you like the most. Why dont you just ignore my post then? If you signature is too loud or too long YOU WILL BE BANNED from MY posts |
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Grumpy Old Bastard (OP) User ID: 907315 Ireland 01/19/2011 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes; I was aware that you had gone to bed; that was the joke; gone to ground; spudhead; spuds are grown in the soil. Quoting: Heavyheadfred 1236137Anyway so you are still alive; looks like the devil looks after his own; be careful you may meet him some day; he prefers his spuds roasted. Nice to see you have the good manners to reply to peoples posts. But I have good news to tell you; Jesus loves you. well thats just dandy my friend If you signature is too loud or too long YOU WILL BE BANNED from MY posts |