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I am stuck on the whole Galactic Plane issue. As I understand it the sun travels a circle around the center of our galaxy. The earth crosses this circle twice a year. If you divide the galaxy into north (top) and south (bottom). Our sun is currently some degree's north(above) this so called Galactic Equator. Is the OP saying we are crossing into the southern (bottom) region of this line ? This crossing will occur on dec 21 at the same time the earth crosses the Galactic plane ?
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Yeah, but this will be the first time in human history (according to the OP) that in will cross in three spacial dimensions.
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Which brings to mind Hancock's work as presented in Fingerprints of the Gods

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Yes, the human race DID survive the last pass through the galactic plane!
And that is what is most encouraging. But you'd be a fool not to recognize it as the cause of the genetic bottleneck of that period, and as the likely cause of a near extinction of the human race!
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OP, I didn't make mention of your last statement, and if you have read Hancock's work, specifically Fingerprints of the Gods, he covers this quite clearly. I take it from your comment you haven't.

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How about a quick summary of the book?
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Wow...he covers so much info I wouldn't even know where to begin.

The reviews on Amazon are quite sufficient and better articulated than anything I could write on the fly:

[link to www.amazon.com]

His website page for the book:

[link to www.grahamhancock.com]

And Wiki

Fingerprints of the Gods: The Evidence of Earth's Lost Civilization is a book first published in 1995 by Graham Hancock, in which he echoes nineteenth century writer Ignatius Donnelly, author of Atlantis: The Antediluvian World (1882), in contending that some previously enigmatic ancient but highly-advanced civilization had existed in prehistory, one which served as the common progenitor civilization to all subsequent known ancient historical ones.

Supposedly, sometime around the end of the last Ice Age this civilization ended in cataclysm[1], but passed on to its inheritors profound knowledge of such things as astronomy, architecture, and mathematics.

Most of his claims are based on the idea that mainstream interpretations of archaeological evidence are flawed or incomplete, rather than supplying "new" evidence. Part of Hancock's argument is towards a reassessment of existing archaeological evidence, which in the introduction to a new edition he outlines as being more important than the theory he uses to link together his conclusions.
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Yeah, but this will be the first time in human history (according to the OP) that in will cross in three spacial dimensions

Then how fast is this southern drift of the sun happening ? With the size of the sun and the approaching Event Horizon is this going to be a long drawn out crossing ? Is the OP saying that we will be on the Galactic Equator on Dec 21 when the alignment occurs and if so , will it not take thousands of years and hundreds of Galactic Plane crossings for the sun to drift inot the southern part of the Galaxy ?
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Yes, the human race DID survive the last pass through the galactic plane!
And that is what is most encouraging. But you'd be a fool not to recognize it as the cause of the genetic bottleneck of that period, and as the likely cause of a near extinction of the human race!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1241940


OP, I didn't make mention of your last statement, and if you have read Hancock's work, specifically Fingerprints of the Gods, he covers this quite clearly. I take it from your comment you haven't.

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 Quoting: TX PATRIOT 1241252


How about a quick summary of the book?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1172424


Wow...he covers so much info I wouldn't even know where to begin.

The reviews on Amazon are quite sufficient and better articulated than anything I could write on the fly:

[link to www.amazon.com]

His website page for the book:

[link to www.grahamhancock.com]

And Wiki

Fingerprints of the Gods: The Evidence of Earth's Lost Civilization is a book first published in 1995 by Graham Hancock, in which he echoes nineteenth century writer Ignatius Donnelly, author of Atlantis: The Antediluvian World (1882), in contending that some previously enigmatic ancient but highly-advanced civilization had existed in prehistory, one which served as the common progenitor civilization to all subsequent known ancient historical ones.

Supposedly, sometime around the end of the last Ice Age this civilization ended in cataclysm[1], but passed on to its inheritors profound knowledge of such things as astronomy, architecture, and mathematics.

Most of his claims are based on the idea that mainstream interpretations of archaeological evidence are flawed or incomplete, rather than supplying "new" evidence. Part of Hancock's argument is towards a reassessment of existing archaeological evidence, which in the introduction to a new edition he outlines as being more important than the theory he uses to link together his conclusions.
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My thanks!
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I am not buying the issue involving the Galactic Plane alignment. Which is the basis for all this Doooom. These movements take alot of time to transpire. Although I am of diminishes capacity, I do not believe....
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If you have ever watched a flock of starlings or blackbirds fly during the day, the mystery would be solved. they fly in flock of hundreds of thousands , tightly packed together and constantly changing directions and going in opposing directions. Now imagine that going on at night, with BLACK birds
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1241940


I personally witness this is my own backyard every year (seasonal). Hundreds of them that cover the backyard and neighborhood and not once have I seen one bird fly into another....night or day.


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Yes, i'm abit perplexed about this point.

I have seen starlings move in groups of hundreds during the day - flying in formation of patterns - swirling and turning in a nanosecond - the whole group.

If they are able to fly so close and ALL OF THEM fly in a pattern that appears to our eyes as random...and make such manouvers in a split second - would suggest to me that they fly using a difference 'sense' other than sight.

If they were just looking where the others were going and flying in formation through sight then the flock flights and rapid changes in shape as a whole flock would surely occur slower?

So through this i'm lead to believe they didn't fly into each other because they 'couldnt see'...

I'll try linking to a youtube vid to demonstrate what i mean...you'll see that the entire flock are 'tuned in' to each other and know exactly as a (one consciousness) flock where they will ALL fly to.

Flying into each other causing deaths just doesn't correlate enough for me.
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You are also describing the same type of mass movement that occurs with schools of fish, which can be easily witnessed by anyone who dives. Absolutely stunning to observe.

I was the poster who mentioned magnetite. I remember back in 2005 reading an article reporting that scientists had found minute pieces of magnetite (rare earth mineral) in some birds' forebrain area, which helps the birds navigate. I am wondering if the birds who were impacted had magnetite as part of their anatomy? Curious.
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I am not buying the issue involving the Galactic Plane alignment. Which is the basis for all this Doooom. These movements take alot of time to transpire. Although I am of diminishes capacity, I do not believe....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1244049


From an electrical universe model point it makes some sense, but what is real enough is that the magnetosphere is weakening (for whatever reason) as we face the solar max just in time for the Mayan's alleged prophecy of doom to have some teeth.
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If you have ever watched a flock of starlings or blackbirds fly during the day, the mystery would be solved. they fly in flock of hundreds of thousands , tightly packed together and constantly changing directions and going in opposing directions. Now imagine that going on at night, with BLACK birds
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1241940


I personally witness this is my own backyard every year (seasonal). Hundreds of them that cover the backyard and neighborhood and not once have I seen one bird fly into another....night or day.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1241252


Yes, i'm abit perplexed about this point.

I have seen starlings move in groups of hundreds during the day - flying in formation of patterns - swirling and turning in a nanosecond - the whole group.

If they are able to fly so close and ALL OF THEM fly in a pattern that appears to our eyes as random...and make such manouvers in a split second - would suggest to me that they fly using a difference 'sense' other than sight.

If they were just looking where the others were going and flying in formation through sight then the flock flights and rapid changes in shape as a whole flock would surely occur slower?

So through this i'm lead to believe they didn't fly into each other because they 'couldnt see'...

I'll try linking to a youtube vid to demonstrate what i mean...you'll see that the entire flock are 'tuned in' to each other and know exactly as a (one consciousness) flock where they will ALL fly to.

Flying into each other causing deaths just doesn't correlate enough for me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 711671


You are also describing the same type of mass movement that occurs with schools of fish, which can be easily witnessed by anyone who dives. Absolutely stunning to observe.

I was the poster who mentioned magnetite. I remember back in 2005 reading an article reporting that scientists had found minute pieces of magnetite (rare earth mineral) in some birds' forebrain area, which helps the birds navigate. I am wondering if the birds who were impacted had magnetite as part of their anatomy? Curious.
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An excellent question. I don't know if scientific investigation is that advanced in this area. But if someone knows, clue us in.
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I was the poster who mentioned magnetite. I remember back in 2005 reading an article reporting that scientists had found minute pieces of magnetite (rare earth mineral) in some birds' forebrain area, which helps the birds navigate. I am wondering if the birds who were impacted had magnetite as part of their anatomy? Curious.
 Quoting: TX PATRIOT 1241252


An excellent question. I don't know if scientific investigation is that advanced in this area. But if someone knows, clue us in.
 Quoting: Thelemic Messiah


Well, the general functional study of biomagnetism has been on-going for decades, but the question is do we know which birds have magnetite. Fish, bees and humans do as well.

From one journal article:

Magnetite-based magnetoreception in birds: the effect of a biasing field and a pulse on migratory behavior

The Journal of Experimental Biology 205, 3031–3037 (2002)


Birds have always been of particular interest for the study
of magnetoreception because they rely strongly on the Earth’s magnetic field for orientation and navigation.

They appear to use information from the geomagnetic field in two ways, namely (1) as a compass for direction finding and (2) as part of their navigational ‘map’ for determining positions (for a review, see R. Wiltschko and Wiltschko, 1995).

These probably involve separate receptor systems with different types of receptor cells, as the biophysical constraints on them differ markedly (e.g. Kirschvink and Walker, 1985). In birds, magnetite was found in the head, particularly in the ethmoid region above the beak (Walcott et al., 1979; Beason and Nichols, 1984; Beason and Brennan, 1986; Kirschvink and Walker, 1986; Edwards et al., 1992) and in the cutis of the upper mandible (Hanzlik et al., 2000; Winklhofer et al., 2001).

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[link to www.gps.caltech.edu]
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This REALLY shows the true colors of GLP. Someone credible comes forward with solid science and you blast him out the door for challenging your view of the world.

Way to go "Truth seekers"

As for the OP, I would suggest you make and formally document/reference all that you have researched into a nice summary and forward it to all the media outlets of the world. Despite the few select asshats on GLP, the worlds population does deserve fair warning beyond the public PSA's we got a couple years ago telling us to be ready for some unforeseen disaster with buggout kits.
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Maybe we can get a quick encore from the OP?

It worked at the MUSE concert at Wembly last year.
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I'm a newbie at gardening, but my kin are not; after the whole bit about a change in UV light, we got to chatting it up about their gardens and how difficult it had become to get the gardens to produce much (even though they were using heirloom seeds).

My sister has a small kitchen garden (she's in SoCal and has always had beautiful veggies out of her small urban space) and she managed to "net" hers for the last 3 years. Her harvests were improved. Her stance was that she must be shielding her garden from some unseen solar force that is harming the plants.
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To add, my next door neighbors have been avid large plot gardeners (acres) for decades. They produce stunning vegetables and fruit. This year all the vegetables in their small plot next to their house died, and they are without explanation. Perplexed. They just pulled up the entire plot.
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what area do you live in?
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To add, my next door neighbors have been avid large plot gardeners (acres) for decades. They produce stunning vegetables and fruit. This year all the vegetables in their small plot next to their house died, and they are without explanation. Perplexed. They just pulled up the entire plot.
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what area do you live in?
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East TX

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So, and bringing this thread back to its main topic, the way that I see it and since the Universal Consciousness cycle is just around the corner now (starting Feb 11, 2011), I fully expect that more and more people will start being directly affected by this leaking EM radiation (as it continues to intensify) and many more will snap!!!

(See what just happened in Russia today).
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For the past two weeks, I have honestly felt like I was operating in another matrix. The majority of the people around me are not using logic, reasoning, critical thought...comments and conversations do not make sense...unrelated comments out of left field with the person believing s/he is making perfect sense. A significant amount of lying and deception, unwarranted games and manipulation over the most trivial issues. This behavior seems to be all around me, and it is bizarre and quite disconcerting. I almost feel I am watching them from a different space/place...the experience is very, very surreal.

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+1

add to that balance issues
i feel fine but having odd balance issues
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I feel fine as well...it's everyone else acting like their cognitive processes and judgments are malfunctioning. I don't even address it any longer. During these experiences, I just sit and stare with my head tilted while thinking "WTF?". lol

Be cautious of your balance, AC. Don't take a tumble.

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it makes one wonder if powers of observation are strengthening such that we are slowly gaining the ability to see ourselves in situations from an 'outside' perspective where the absurdity of it all is horrifically transparent
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I am not buying the issue involving the Galactic Plane alignment. Which is the basis for all this Doooom. These movements take alot of time to transpire. Although I am of diminishes capacity, I do not believe....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1244049


From an electrical universe model point it makes some sense, but what is real enough is that the magnetosphere is weakening (for whatever reason) as we face the solar max just in time for the Mayan's alleged prophecy of doom to have some teeth.
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^^^^^^
this combined with financial doom, the never ending threat of violence and war makes the mayan prediction stick out like a sore thumb
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I am not buying the issue involving the Galactic Plane alignment. Which is the basis for all this Doooom. These movements take alot of time to transpire. Although I am of diminishes capacity, I do not believe....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1244049


From an electrical universe model point it makes some sense, but what is real enough is that the magnetosphere is weakening (for whatever reason) as we face the solar max just in time for the Mayan's alleged prophecy of doom to have some teeth.
 Quoting: Thelemic Messiah

^^^^^^
this combined with financial doom, the never ending threat of violence and war makes the mayan prediction stick out like a sore thumb
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You can feel the sense of reality of it, can't you? There's something to this.
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THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH OP / IDW FOR COMING HERE AGAIN AND POSTING YOUR INFO!!!!

hf hf hf hf

I think you are right, this thread has run its course, regardless of the shilling.

people should bump it again and again for the next few weeks so that more users can read through it...


everything seems to click in line these days, its coming...
everyone who live's in this quite special time has decided to come here volunterily before incarnating - one can almost sense the underlying tenseness these days, the foreshadowing of what is about to come.

everythings according to one#s POV, if you think its positive, it will be positive, if you think contrarily, it will be that way...

All about choices!

THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN AND I HOPE TO SEE YOU ROUND AGAIN IF YOU GAIN SOME NEW KNOWLEGDE (though i doubt it...)

NAMASTÉ, DUDE! cool2
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The feeling you describe has most likely been in human beings since before we could even have been considered human beings.

But, enjoy that "new car feeling" if that's how you choose to experience a very old emotion.
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Which brings to mind Hancock's work as presented in Fingerprints of the Gods

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 Quoting: TX PATRIOT 1241252

Yes, the human race DID survive the last pass through the galactic plane!
And that is what is most encouraging. But you'd be a fool not to recognize it as the cause of the genetic bottleneck of that period, and as the likely cause of a near extinction of the human race!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1241940


OP, I didn't make mention of your last statement, and if you have read Hancock's work, specifically Fingerprints of the Gods, he covers this quite clearly. I take it from your comment you haven't.

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 Quoting: TX PATRIOT 1241252


How about a quick summary of the book?
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How about using a Search Engine?
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Yes, the human race DID survive the last pass through the galactic plane!
And that is what is most encouraging. But you'd be a fool not to recognize it as the cause of the genetic bottleneck of that period, and as the likely cause of a near extinction of the human race!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1241940


OP, I didn't make mention of your last statement, and if you have read Hancock's work, specifically Fingerprints of the Gods, he covers this quite clearly. I take it from your comment you haven't.

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 Quoting: TX PATRIOT 1241252


How about a quick summary of the book?
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How about using a Search Engine?
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Dude, you don't have to shill me, I don't know shit about this crap.

The kind gentleman answered my question nicely.

Why be a dick? Just for being a dick's sake?
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That is why it is necessary that these events transpire, but don't be surprised if you're left alive, you might be found worthy and it is not for us to understand the complexities and the mercies of the creators wisdom
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Collectively, the human race has DEvolved to a disgusting disgrace in which I, quite honestly, no longer have much tolerance watching and being imposed upon by people driven by evil, greed and self at the expense of others...not just strangers but neighbors, friends and family (filled with sociopaths...no empathy, no compassion, hate, intolerance). This behavior seems to be 1. increasing and/or 2. I am becoming more aware of it. Whatever the cause, this is not what life is about. And again, no, I'm not religious or a new ager. I just follow intuition and heart. And where we are and what we are doing is just not right. A human cleansing is what is needed...and from my perspective (not scientific but behavioral), it's long overdue.


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If there were no ugliness inside us;
we would be unable to comprehend the ugliness outside of us.
That is where we use compassion.
("Forgive them for they know not what they do.")
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Coming to your house soon...
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Bring body bags, this is Texas
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OP, you are near Longview, TX?? Howdy neighbor.

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Dang!

That's a long walk from West Texas.

Visit postponed.
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So, and bringing this thread back to its main topic, the way that I see it and since the Universal Consciousness cycle is just around the corner now (starting Feb 11, 2011), I fully expect that more and more people will start being directly affected by this leaking EM radiation (as it continues to intensify) and many more will snap!!!

(See what just happened in Russia today).
 Quoting: wirelessguru1


For the past two weeks, I have honestly felt like I was operating in another matrix. The majority of the people around me are not using logic, reasoning, critical thought...comments and conversations do not make sense...unrelated comments out of left field with the person believing s/he is making perfect sense. A significant amount of lying and deception, unwarranted games and manipulation over the most trivial issues. This behavior seems to be all around me, and it is bizarre and quite disconcerting. I almost feel I am watching them from a different space/place...the experience is very, very surreal.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1241252

+1

add to that balance issues
i feel fine but having odd balance issues
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1213670


I feel fine as well...it's everyone else acting like their cognitive processes and judgments are malfunctioning. I don't even address it any longer. During these experiences, I just sit and stare with my head tilted while thinking "WTF?". lol

Be cautious of your balance, AC. Don't take a tumble.

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In those situations, when it appears to be "everyone else, but me" acting whacky, one must consider the possibility that it is not "them", but "me"...
It's a good way to stay grounded.
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If you have ever watched a flock of starlings or blackbirds fly during the day, the mystery would be solved. they fly in flock of hundreds of thousands , tightly packed together and constantly changing directions and going in opposing directions. Now imagine that going on at night, with BLACK birds
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1241940


I personally witness this is my own backyard every year (seasonal). Hundreds of them that cover the backyard and neighborhood and not once have I seen one bird fly into another....night or day.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1241252


Yes, i'm abit perplexed about this point.

I have seen starlings move in groups of hundreds during the day - flying in formation of patterns - swirling and turning in a nanosecond - the whole group.

If they are able to fly so close and ALL OF THEM fly in a pattern that appears to our eyes as random...and make such manouvers in a split second - would suggest to me that they fly using a difference 'sense' other than sight.

If they were just looking where the others were going and flying in formation through sight then the flock flights and rapid changes in shape as a whole flock would surely occur slower?

So through this i'm lead to believe they didn't fly into each other because they 'couldnt see'...

I'll try linking to a youtube vid to demonstrate what i mean...you'll see that the entire flock are 'tuned in' to each other and know exactly as a (one consciousness) flock where they will ALL fly to.

Flying into each other causing deaths just doesn't correlate enough for me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 711671


You are also describing the same type of mass movement that occurs with schools of fish, which can be easily witnessed by anyone who dives. Absolutely stunning to observe.

I was the poster who mentioned magnetite. I remember back in 2005 reading an article reporting that scientists had found minute pieces of magnetite (rare earth mineral) in some birds' forebrain area, which helps the birds navigate. I am wondering if the birds who were impacted had magnetite as part of their anatomy? Curious.
 Quoting: TX PATRIOT 1241252

All animals have magnetite (esp. in the brain) as a part of their anatomy (at least, vertebrates, as far as I know). The question is which ones make more or less use of it (We have it, too).
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I personally witness this is my own backyard every year (seasonal). Hundreds of them that cover the backyard and neighborhood and not once have I seen one bird fly into another....night or day.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1241252


Yes, i'm abit perplexed about this point.

I have seen starlings move in groups of hundreds during the day - flying in formation of patterns - swirling and turning in a nanosecond - the whole group.

If they are able to fly so close and ALL OF THEM fly in a pattern that appears to our eyes as random...and make such manouvers in a split second - would suggest to me that they fly using a difference 'sense' other than sight.

If they were just looking where the others were going and flying in formation through sight then the flock flights and rapid changes in shape as a whole flock would surely occur slower?

So through this i'm lead to believe they didn't fly into each other because they 'couldnt see'...

I'll try linking to a youtube vid to demonstrate what i mean...you'll see that the entire flock are 'tuned in' to each other and know exactly as a (one consciousness) flock where they will ALL fly to.

Flying into each other causing deaths just doesn't correlate enough for me.
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You are also describing the same type of mass movement that occurs with schools of fish, which can be easily witnessed by anyone who dives. Absolutely stunning to observe.

I was the poster who mentioned magnetite. I remember back in 2005 reading an article reporting that scientists had found minute pieces of magnetite (rare earth mineral) in some birds' forebrain area, which helps the birds navigate. I am wondering if the birds who were impacted had magnetite as part of their anatomy? Curious.
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An excellent question. I don't know if scientific investigation is that advanced in this area. But if someone knows, clue us in.
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(Since people are too lazy to use a search engine on their own - takes half a damn second to do...):

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This REALLY shows the true colors of GLP. Someone credible comes forward with solid science and you blast him out the door for challenging your view of the world.

Way to go "Truth seekers"
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The problem is that OP DIDN'T have solid science OR credibility.
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OP, I didn't make mention of your last statement, and if you have read Hancock's work, specifically Fingerprints of the Gods, he covers this quite clearly. I take it from your comment you haven't.

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How about a quick summary of the book?
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How about using a Search Engine?
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Dude, you don't have to shill me, I don't know shit about this crap.

The kind gentleman answered my question nicely.

Why be a dick? Just for being a dick's sake?
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Perhaps you should use a search engine to find the definition of "Shill".

I'm "Trolling" you.

Google can tell you what that is, too, Dude.
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Yes, i'm abit perplexed about this point.

I have seen starlings move in groups of hundreds during the day - flying in formation of patterns - swirling and turning in a nanosecond - the whole group.

If they are able to fly so close and ALL OF THEM fly in a pattern that appears to our eyes as random...and make such manouvers in a split second - would suggest to me that they fly using a difference 'sense' other than sight.

If they were just looking where the others were going and flying in formation through sight then the flock flights and rapid changes in shape as a whole flock would surely occur slower?

So through this i'm lead to believe they didn't fly into each other because they 'couldnt see'...

I'll try linking to a youtube vid to demonstrate what i mean...you'll see that the entire flock are 'tuned in' to each other and know exactly as a (one consciousness) flock where they will ALL fly to.

Flying into each other causing deaths just doesn't correlate enough for me.
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You are also describing the same type of mass movement that occurs with schools of fish, which can be easily witnessed by anyone who dives. Absolutely stunning to observe.

I was the poster who mentioned magnetite. I remember back in 2005 reading an article reporting that scientists had found minute pieces of magnetite (rare earth mineral) in some birds' forebrain area, which helps the birds navigate. I am wondering if the birds who were impacted had magnetite as part of their anatomy? Curious.
 Quoting: TX PATRIOT 1241252


An excellent question. I don't know if scientific investigation is that advanced in this area. But if someone knows, clue us in.
 Quoting: Thelemic Messiah

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[link to www.google.com]
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Yeah yeah we're all aware of google thanks.
If we googled every question we have there would be no point in forums eh?! Why ask and discuss anything when we can just 'ask' google?

Google is full of disinfo just like many people. Chinese whispers in overdrive is the majority of 'info' online.

Asking in forums enables those who have done indepth reasearch on the subject to chime in and inform others.
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Regarding magnetite - i have read from several sources it is located in the pineal gland in humans.

Whether we 'use' it like birds - or it lays dormant - i'm not sure.
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About the coments of balance being affected...whats up with the Power Balance bracelets that are being advertised and sold recently.I work in a sporting goods store and am astounded at the amount of people who come in looking for them and purchase them at $30 a pop. To myself I've been wondering just how many people have trouble keeping thier balance. These are people of all ages. Interestingly enough, I have been experiencing some slight dizzyness when bending over or getting out of bed, but I have chalked it up to maybe having a clogged ear as I have been using q-tips a lot lately.
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Magnetite
Despite our increased understanding of the functions and mechanisms of action of the pineal gland in the past few decades, the precise mechanism at a cellular level whereby electromagnetic radiation can produce biological effects was, until recently, unknown. However in the past decade or so, studies of the ferrous mineral known as magnetite, have shown that it can act as a transducer linking ambient electromagnetic activity to cellular function. In addition – in both animals and humans – magnetite has been identified in most tissues examined, including the pineal gland (Lohmann & Johnsen, 2000; Schultheiss-Grassi & Dobson, 1999).

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