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Solar Radiation Leaking through a Failing Magnetosphere Likely Cause of Plant Blights and Animal Mass Deaths

 
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Could very well be part of the Answer.

A factoid I came across earlier that mentioned in passing that Earth loses 2 Pounds or 0.9 Kilograms of Cold Plasma a Second from our Atmosphere/s..

'The new measurements indicate that about 2 pounds (0.9 kilogram) of cold plasma escapes from Earth’s atmosphere every second, Andre said.
Knowing that rate of loss for Earth may help scientists better reconstruct what became of the atmosphere of Mars, which is thought to once have been denser and more similar to Earth’s'.
[link to www.astronomy.com]

Id' like to try and figure out some kind of time-scale or whether or not this is sustainable for the last 2 Billion Years.

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I believe it will end abruptly.I think thats what happened in the past.Everything is changing and its coming more quickly.
I am in central Ky and we have had relentless wind almost all winter.Actually had a lot during Fall too.We might have a day or two with just a slight breeze but most days have been 20+ mph winds on a daily basics.Some days the feel of the wind is nothing short of scary.I am not referring to the speed but the actual feel.Hard to describe but there is a pressure to it.Like its trying to compress the body and its hard to breath.My security cameras have bad bad interference the last month or so especially along with other electronics.Something is for sure changing and its getting to the point it cant be ignored much longer.
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Ever ask yourself where wind comes from and what causes it? May want to look into it, it's not as simple as people think it is and the answer lays in space.
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[link to www.scientificamerican.com]





Two concepts are central to understanding what causes wind: air and air pressure. Air comprises molecules of nitrogen (about 78 percent by volume), oxygen (about 21 percent by volume), water vapor (between 1 and 4 percent by volume near the surface of the earth) and other trace elements. Every time we breathe, the air we inhale is composed of about the same relative ratios of these molecules, and a cubic inch of air at ground level contains about 1020 molecules. hiding
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Did you even read the article? Nothing in it explains what causes wind...

Simply put, wind is the motion of air molecules.

No shit? That is the definition of wind. But what is the cause of the motion? I know what causes wind (fart jokes aside) and it's not that simple, so I'm not even going to bother to try to explain, I was just asking people to think about it because the answer is not that obvious.

You did everything but explain what causes the motions of air. There are many theories but no one actually knows for sure what all the causes of wind actually are...
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Differing Pressures in Air Densities causes Wind.
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Differing Pressures in Air Densities causes Wind.
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Not just that also temperature and the rotation of the Earth, but they're just theories and not proven to be 100% accurate. Then you have to ask yourself what is air pressure and what are the causes of it? It's not that simple...

Pressure changes like ocean waves, from solar radiation and the plasma in our atmosphere reacting to these changes.

"Atmospheric tides are global-scale periodic oscillations of the atmosphere. In many ways they are analogous to ocean tides."
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Just because we define something with something else that doesn't mean we understand how it works. There are way too many factors and variables in this process to know for 100% sure how it all works yet. Taking into account the many layers of our atmosphere, that's a lot of calculations, observations and measurements to be done. The oceans of low density plasma high in the atmosphere are also playing a role and they are invisible to us. We barely understand the solar wind plasma interactions with our planet to accurately know what effects it has on the planet much less be able to predict weather and climate with any real degree of accuracy.

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So the wind comes from space at the poles of our magnetosphere bringing with it molecules which negatively affect our living environment resulting in a fight for survival like none other in the history of our world by virtue of our generation being the most advanced species ever inhabiting the earth?

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Differing Pressures in Air Densities causes Wind.
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Not just that also temperature and the rotation of the Earth, but they're just theories and not proven to be 100% accurate. Then you have to ask yourself what is air pressure and what are the causes of it? It's not that simple...

Pressure changes like ocean waves, from solar radiation and the plasma in our atmosphere reacting to these changes.

"Atmospheric tides are global-scale periodic oscillations of the atmosphere. In many ways they are analogous to ocean tides."
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Just because we define something with something else that doesn't mean we understand how it works. There are way too many factors and variables in this process to know for 100% sure how it all works yet. Taking into account the many layers of our atmosphere, that's a lot of calculations, observations and measurements to be done. The oceans of low density plasma high in the atmosphere are also playing a role and they are invisible to us. We barely understand the solar wind plasma interactions with our planet to accurately know what effects it has on the planet much less be able to predict weather and climate with any real degree of accuracy.
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Agreed,more or less : )

Id' say that any and all Pressure causing phenomenon in the Solar System,be it from the Solar Wind/CMEs/Flares to Geo-Magnetic Fluxes and Gravitational Waves/Forces are ultimately responsible for how the whole picture of Wind on Earth is Fundamentally affected.

I dont' think we can discount any Force or Effect in the Universe ultimately affecting everything else within the Universe at any One given Time.

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These are the space weather warnings due to the X-class flare we had late Thursday into Friday:

Space Weather Message Code: WARPX1
Serial Number: 340
Issue Time: 2012 Jan 28 1629 UTC

EXTENDED WARNING: Proton 10MeV Integral Flux above 10pfu expected
Extension to Serial Number: 339
Valid From: 2012 Jan 27 1826 UTC
Now Valid Until: 2012 Jan 29 1800 UTC
Warning Condition: Persistence
Predicted NOAA Scale: S2 - Moderate

-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------

Space Weather Message Code: WARPC0
Serial Number: 53
Issue Time: 2012 Jan 28 1626 UTC

EXTENDED WARNING: Proton 100MeV Integral Flux above 1pfu expected
Extension to Serial Number: 52
Valid From: 2012 Jan 27 1900 UTC
Now Valid Until: 2012 Jan 28 2359 UTC
Warning Condition: Persistence

-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------

Space Weather Message Code: ALTEF3
Serial Number: 1857
Issue Time: 2012 Jan 28 1128 UTC

CONTINUED ALERT: Electron 2MeV Integral Flux exceeded 1000pfu
Continuation of Serial Number: 1856
Begin Time: 2012 Jan 27 1535 UTC
Yesterday Maximum 2MeV Flux: 1722 pfu

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Here is the current Electron Flux Chart:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

And here is the current Proton Flux Chart:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

And this is the earth absorbing all that stuff at the poles:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Please scroll down to the bottom of the page in the link below. There is a list of major events. Click on the X-Flare which was consider an X-28 from November 4, 2003 and it will take you to an animation of the absorption at the poles from this solar storm. From this animation, you can see that the earth was bombarded by the protons, electrons etc. (solar radiation) for about 5 hours. Again - This comes from a list considered "major events" from the NOAA site for D-Region Absorption.

[link to www.ngdc.noaa.gov]

The absorption chart has been spiking non-stop since the beginning of this past week, due to the solar flares that created proton storms. These solar flares were Long Duration Events (LDEs) like the one we had on Thursday evening. The major events in the list in the above paragraph does not compare to the length of the proton storms and amount of absorption we have had this past week. Here is the X-ray flux monitor showing the LDEs from the past few days:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

I believe we have had three solar flares that were LDEs in the last seven days, two of which caused long duration proton storms as well. One of these was an M-class flare with a CME and the other was an X-class flare with a CME. The X-class was barely earth facing and you can see what is happening with the protons in this picture from Lasco (C2). The top picture is dated 1/28/2012 at 16.48 and the LDE flare peaked (not began) on 1/27/2012 at 18:48. This is 22 hours after the X-class flare peaked.The snowy effect is a result of protons hitting the satellite cameras:

[link to sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov]

I believe our magnetosphere is weakening....you look this data over and tell me something isn't worse or out of the norm than usual - even at a time when the sun is entering solar maximum.
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I would be more worried about the slow death We all will have due to Fukajima radiation !
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These are the space weather warnings due to the X-class flare we had late Thursday into Friday:

Space Weather Message Code: WARPX1
Serial Number: 340
Issue Time: 2012 Jan 28 1629 UTC

EXTENDED WARNING: Proton 10MeV Integral Flux above 10pfu expected
Extension to Serial Number: 339
Valid From: 2012 Jan 27 1826 UTC
Now Valid Until: 2012 Jan 29 1800 UTC
Warning Condition: Persistence
Predicted NOAA Scale: S2 - Moderate

-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------

Space Weather Message Code: WARPC0
Serial Number: 53
Issue Time: 2012 Jan 28 1626 UTC

EXTENDED WARNING: Proton 100MeV Integral Flux above 1pfu expected
Extension to Serial Number: 52
Valid From: 2012 Jan 27 1900 UTC
Now Valid Until: 2012 Jan 28 2359 UTC
Warning Condition: Persistence

-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------

Space Weather Message Code: ALTEF3
Serial Number: 1857
Issue Time: 2012 Jan 28 1128 UTC

CONTINUED ALERT: Electron 2MeV Integral Flux exceeded 1000pfu
Continuation of Serial Number: 1856
Begin Time: 2012 Jan 27 1535 UTC
Yesterday Maximum 2MeV Flux: 1722 pfu

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Here is the current Electron Flux Chart:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

And here is the current Proton Flux Chart:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

And this is the earth absorbing all that stuff at the poles:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Please scroll down to the bottom of the page in the link below. There is a list of major events. Click on the X-Flare which was consider an X-28 from November 4, 2003 and it will take you to an animation of the absorption at the poles from this solar storm. From this animation, you can see that the earth was bombarded by the protons, electrons etc. (solar radiation) for about 5 hours. Again - This comes from a list considered "major events" from the NOAA site for D-Region Absorption.

[link to www.ngdc.noaa.gov]

The absorption chart has been spiking non-stop since the beginning of this past week, due to the solar flares that created proton storms. These solar flares were Long Duration Events (LDEs) like the one we had on Thursday evening. The major events in the list in the above paragraph does not compare to the length of the proton storms and amount of absorption we have had this past week. Here is the X-ray flux monitor showing the LDEs from the past few days:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

I believe we have had three solar flares that were LDEs in the last seven days, two of which caused long duration proton storms as well. One of these was an M-class flare with a CME and the other was an X-class flare with a CME. The X-class was barely earth facing and you can see what is happening with the protons in this picture from Lasco (C2). The top picture is dated 1/28/2012 at 16.48 and the LDE flare peaked (not began) on 1/27/2012 at 18:48. This is 22 hours after the X-class flare peaked.The snowy effect is a result of protons hitting the satellite cameras:

[link to sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov]

I believe our magnetosphere is weakening....you look this data over and tell me something isn't worse or out of the norm than usual - even at a time when the sun is entering solar maximum.
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Thanks for that!

Check out this Image of the Sun hurling Solar Proton Nunchucks at the LASCO C2 Imager: [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

On the Down-side,all those Protons on the Imager means we can expect yet another spike in the 100,50 and 10 MeV Proton Flux.
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I definitely notice the heat whenever we get a CME down here. The more direct it is the hotter and drier it is here but for someone on the other side of the globe it could mean colder weather. It's not just a simple global warming we're experiencing, in fact they haven't called it global warming for years because they know that (the media). Yet some people still say global warming. Climate is changing and the cause is from space but they don't want people to know that because they can't tax is, they can't control you with it using guilt and they surely don't want you to know that there's abso-fucking-lutely nothing you can do about it but adapt.
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considering we all know where the radiation is coming from, it is clearly obvious the OP is a counterintelop.

you should be banned.
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100% BULL SHIT !!!


bsflagbsflagbsflagbsflag

If This were true, NASA, The Government, DHS or FEMA would let us know.

Stop spreading fear OP
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100% BULL SHIT !!!


bsflagbsflagbsflagbsflag

If This were true, NASA, The Government, DHS or FEMA would let us know.

Stop spreading fear OP

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Now that's funny....rofljerkit
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sounds like a good theory.. but unfortunately there isnt enough evidence to support your claim.. FAIL
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I would be more worried about the slow death We all will have due to Fukajima radiation !
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correct. we will kill our selves before mother earth gets her chance
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Good call.

Are you really a professional astrophysicist? Can you tell us that?
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I can't tell you who I am without going through a shitstorm of controversy but I can tell you this much, when I speak, the most well known names in the discipline take notice and I have been instrumental in re writing what has up until this time been more or less a psuedo science concerning everything from sub atomic physics , the propagation and nature of electromagnetic energy and the mechanism that powers the Sun. .
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what's a little controversy when your end is nigh?

the purpose of all that's coming to pass is specifically structured to illuminate exactly what each of us are made of, in truth

how will you fare on the richter scale of ethical impeccability when good old Push comes home to Shove?

nevermind. nothing will remain hidden nor secret in future tense

and as it damn well should be, it shall.
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100% BULL SHIT !!!


bsflagbsflagbsflagbsflag

If This were true, NASA, The Government, DHS or FEMA would let us know.

Stop spreading fear OP

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Don't worry the alarm will go off and you'll wake up soon
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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bsflag
Magnitosphere collapse would NOT be breed spacific.
This falls into the realm of phosgene gas BS

It's not. All species are being effected, including humans. I will get to that as this thread develops, there is alot of information to present,. Some are just more vulnerable and exposed than others. What is happening to the plant life will become undeniable soon, already there are widespread unexplained blights and spotting of vegetation. this spotting is cause by high energy particles penetrating the leaves of the vegetation, which are specifically designed to absorb sunlight.. I believe much of the genetic engineering of crops was an attempt to make them radiation resistant
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Look, your drama exceeds you intelligence. Your fear mongering and lack of investigation will be more apparent as this thread develops. You know nothing of these causes and speculation nowhere nears the warrant of a pin.
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^^^^this
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Great post OP. I have recently come to the conclusion thats what the chemtrails are for. It all adds up.


The people seeing them spray in the direction of the sun at sunset.



Spraying only at night.


Some days yet not other days. (I imagine they have some sort of early warning system and know exactly how to plot their shield generation, this explains the "x" patterns, X marks the spot.)


Most people will say thats a bs theory for chemtrails because the government would never help us.

Not for US for THEM!!


They want to protect all their technology or else risk losing everything they have got!

Also explains why we see the chemtrails all over the world.
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I still contend that there are multiple applications for ct's, but definitely this is one of them.
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The X pattern changes the flow and path of clouds or cloud front. Watch when a system bumps up against the X and you will see the clouds/front go from a horizontal flow to a vertical rise. This breaks apart any chance for clouds to form a jet stream pattern. You can see the clouds standing up. Look at the vertical patterns.

Go look at the jet stream, (well there isn't one) Look at the weather maps and see the vertical systems of jagged, full of holes and a see-through grey haze that blankets the country. The spray also slants weather systems in a 45 degree angle.

Different spray types are common. There's the blanket spray. There is the flat waterless dark black, the steel gray formations, and the sickly browns we see at sunrise and set.

The dark colored spray , the black and grey you see clinging to real clouds around the edges pulling and tearing the cloud apart. Look for the waves at the clouds edges and the holes to separate and break down the clouds.

It may take a bit for you to see this, but you will. Before and after pics of clouds caught in the spray. The X and vertical rise.

The spray can make any weather be it rains, wind, hurricanes, tornados.
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bsflag

I'm sorry, pole shifts have happened many times before and not caused mass extinction.

You sir are a troll.
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bsflag

I'm sorry, pole shifts have happened many times before and not caused mass extinction.

You sir are a troll.
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Magnetic pole reversals do not CAUSE mass extinctions but rather are an effect of the CAUSE of such mass extinctions, which happen to be dense plasma clouds from space. Even NASA admit it.

All the "mysterious" events happening in our solar system, like the sun's odd behaviour for the past few years, ie, the extremely low activity, the heliosphere shrinking, cosmic rays rising, climate changing on Earth, it all points to one of these clouds entering the solar system. Or the solar system entering a cloud, depends on how you look at it and on the size of this cloud. If the cloud is dense it will push back the heliopshere to within 1 AU and leave the Earth unprotected and depending on the characteristics of the clouds, ie density, temperature, composition etc, there are various effects.


Eons ago, giant clouds in space may have led to global extinctions, according to two recent technical papers supported by NASA’s Astrobiology Institute.

One paper outlines a rare scenario in which Earth iced over during snowball glaciations, after the solar system passed through dense space clouds. In a more likely scenario, less dense giant molecular clouds may have enabled charged particles to enter Earth’s atmosphere, leading to destruction of much of the planet‘s protective ozone layer. This resulted in global extinctions, according to the second paper. Both recently appeared in the Geophysical Research Letters.

“Computer models show dramatic climate change can be caused by interstellar dust accumulating in Earth’s atmosphere during the solar system‘s immersion into a dense space cloud,” said Alex Pavlov, principal author of the two papers. He is a scientist at the University of Colorado, Boulder. The resulting dust layer hovering over the Earth would absorb and scatter solar radiation, yet allow heat to escape from the planet into space, causing runaway ice buildup and snowball glaciations.
[link to www.universetoday.com]


These numbers confirm what astronomers have long suspected. The solar system is colliding with a vast interstellar cloud.

Most people think space is empty, but it's not. The "void" between the stars is crowded with clouds of gas. Clouds on Earth are miles wide. Clouds in space are light years across. They range in character from inky-black and cold to colorful and glowing-hot. Stars are born in clouds, and they hurl even more clouds into space when they die. Interstellar clouds are everywhere, so it's no surprise that the solar system is running into one.

The question is, what kind of cloud?
[link to science.nasa.gov]

However, because of the large flow of hydrogen from space clouds into the sun's heliosphere, the sun greatly increases its production of electrically charged cosmic rays from the hydrogen particles. This also increases the flow of cosmic rays towards Earth. Normally, Earth's magnetic field and ozone layer protect life from cosmic rays and the sun's dangerous ultraviolet radiation.

Moderately dense space clouds are huge, and the solar system could take as long as 500,000 years to cross one of them. Once in such a cloud, the Earth would be expected to undergo at least one magnetic reversal. During a reversal, electrically charged cosmic rays can enter Earth's atmosphere instead of being deflected by the planet's magnetic field.

Cosmic rays can fly into the atmosphere and break up nitrogen molecules to form nitrogen oxides. Nitrogen oxide catalysts would set off the destruction of as much as 40 percent of the protective ozone in the planet's upper atmosphere across the globe and destruction of about 80 percent of the ozone over the polar regions according to Pavlov.
[link to www.nasa.gov]

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bump

NASA admits giant plasma space clouds can cause magnetic pole reversals and no one even bats an eyelid... I thought you people wanted a pole shift.
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sounds like a good theory.. but unfortunately there isnt enough evidence to support your claim.. FAIL
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There are presently Thousands of different Scientific Papers that discuss Solar Radiation and its' effects on all Life on Earth.

There are also tons of papers on the Breach/s in our Magnetosphere if you care to read.

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sounds like a good theory.. but unfortunately there isnt enough evidence to support your claim.. FAIL
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There are presently Thousands of different Scientific Papers that discuss Solar Radiation and its' effects on all Life on Earth.

There are also tons of papers on the Breach/s in our Magnetosphere if you care to read.
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No there are not, people keep stating that but they never actually provide the proof. I know the article you're talking about but if you actually read it that's not what it says.
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sounds like a good theory.. but unfortunately there isnt enough evidence to support your claim.. FAIL
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There are presently Thousands of different Scientific Papers that discuss Solar Radiation and its' effects on all Life on Earth.

There are also tons of papers on the Breach/s in our Magnetosphere if you care to read.
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No there are not, people keep stating that but they never actually provide the proof. I know the article you're talking about but if you actually read it that's not what it says.
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I suppose the problem is the definition of the term 'breach'.

But the fact remains that alot more Solar Radiation is making its' way through our Magnetosphere than was previously thought possible..whether this is a new thing or not remains to be seen.

I suppose it could be said that we are only using the term because of the relatively recent over-turning of our understanding of the way we pictured our Magnetosphere to have functioned in the past.

But hey,we cant' be sure of anything and shouldnt' be too quick to discount ideas,regardless of whether they have come from someone with no qualifications or from someone with a whole host of Letters following their Name.
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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sounds like a good theory.. but unfortunately there isnt enough evidence to support your claim.. FAIL
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There are presently Thousands of different Scientific Papers that discuss Solar Radiation and its' effects on all Life on Earth.

There are also tons of papers on the Breach/s in our Magnetosphere if you care to read.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


No there are not, people keep stating that but they never actually provide the proof. I know the article you're talking about but if you actually read it that's not what it says.
 Quoting: Plasmare


I suppose the problem is the definition of the term 'breach'.

But the fact remains that alot more Solar Radiation is making its' way through our Magnetosphere than was previously thought possible..whether this is a new thing or not remains to be seen.

I suppose it could be said that we are only using the term because of the relatively recent over-turning of our understanding of the way we pictured our Magnetosphere to have functioned in the past.

But hey,we cant' be sure of anything and shouldnt' be too quick to discount ideas,regardless of whether they have come from someone with no qualifications or from someone with a whole host of Letters following their Name.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


[link to lasp.colorado.edu]

Total Irradiance Monitor. Clearly shows that the total solar radiation is fluctuating.

The Total Irradiance Monitor (TIM) was launched in January 2003 on the NASA Earth Observing System (EOS) SOlar Radiation and Climate Experiment (SORCE). The TIM measures the total solar irradiance (TSI), the spatially and spectrally integrated solar radiation incident at the top of the Earth's atmosphere. The TIM continues this solar climate data record, which began from space in 1978 and is used to determine the sensitivity of the Earth's climate to the natural effects of solar forcing.

The TIM TSI measurements monitor the incident sunlight to the Earth's atmosphere using an ambient temperature active cavity radiometer. Using electrical substitution radiometers (ESRs) and taking advantage of new materials and modern electronics, the TIM measures TSI to an estimated absolute accuracy of 350 ppm (0.035%). Relative changes in solar irradiance are measured to less than 10 ppm/yr (0.001%/yr), allowing determination of possible long-term variations in the Sun's output.


Solar irradiance is another term for sunlight and it means;
Sunlight, in the broad sense, is the total frequency spectrum of electromagnetic radiation given off by the Sun. On Earth, sunlight is filtered through the Earth's atmosphere, and solar radiation is obvious as daylight when the Sun is above the horizon.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

I'm not sure where you're getting your "facts" from but clearly you and everyone else that keeps saying the magnetosphere is failing don't really understand much at all about the subject. Otherwise you'd know it cannot fail since it's the result of certain physical processes between our atmosphere and the solar wind.
slaphim1doh1

Don't take it personally but I can't stand when people spread the wrong information or when they don't even understand what it is they're talking about. Because it just causes other people to believe in that same misunderstanding and confuses people. You keep saying facts and this and that but never provide any links to display what you're discussing, no articles or papers. As I stated the "breaches" in the magnetosphere were discovered by THEMIS and the results were that they found the sun directly pumps solar wind into our atmosphere through these "holes" because of how plasma and magnetic fields work. It's not a bad thing, it's just a process that occurs and no one noticed until a few years ago. It doesn't mean anything other than that, it's something they didn't see before because they didn't look. It's a natural process and has been occurring for as long as the Earth and Sun have existed.

[link to www.igpp.ucla.edu]

You'd probably find some belief system to shove this tidbit into, but we're constantly losing atmosphere into space, it's something that has been happening since the birth of the solar system and will continue to happen until it dies. We've only recently found this out but it doesn't mean the world is coming to an end. Atmosphere goes out into space, solar wind plasma comes in. And the cycle is complete.

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There are presently Thousands of different Scientific Papers that discuss Solar Radiation and its' effects on all Life on Earth.

There are also tons of papers on the Breach/s in our Magnetosphere if you care to read.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


No there are not, people keep stating that but they never actually provide the proof. I know the article you're talking about but if you actually read it that's not what it says.
 Quoting: Plasmare


I suppose the problem is the definition of the term 'breach'.

But the fact remains that alot more Solar Radiation is making its' way through our Magnetosphere than was previously thought possible..whether this is a new thing or not remains to be seen.

I suppose it could be said that we are only using the term because of the relatively recent over-turning of our understanding of the way we pictured our Magnetosphere to have functioned in the past.

But hey,we cant' be sure of anything and shouldnt' be too quick to discount ideas,regardless of whether they have come from someone with no qualifications or from someone with a whole host of Letters following their Name.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


[link to lasp.colorado.edu]

Total Irradiance Monitor. Clearly shows that the total solar radiation is fluctuating.

The Total Irradiance Monitor (TIM) was launched in January 2003 on the NASA Earth Observing System (EOS) SOlar Radiation and Climate Experiment (SORCE). The TIM measures the total solar irradiance (TSI), the spatially and spectrally integrated solar radiation incident at the top of the Earth's atmosphere. The TIM continues this solar climate data record, which began from space in 1978 and is used to determine the sensitivity of the Earth's climate to the natural effects of solar forcing.

The TIM TSI measurements monitor the incident sunlight to the Earth's atmosphere using an ambient temperature active cavity radiometer. Using electrical substitution radiometers (ESRs) and taking advantage of new materials and modern electronics, the TIM measures TSI to an estimated absolute accuracy of 350 ppm (0.035%). Relative changes in solar irradiance are measured to less than 10 ppm/yr (0.001%/yr), allowing determination of possible long-term variations in the Sun's output.


Solar irradiance is another term for sunlight and it means;
Sunlight, in the broad sense, is the total frequency spectrum of electromagnetic radiation given off by the Sun. On Earth, sunlight is filtered through the Earth's atmosphere, and solar radiation is obvious as daylight when the Sun is above the horizon.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

I'm not sure where you're getting your "facts" from but clearly you and everyone else that keeps saying the magnetosphere is failing don't really understand much at all about the subject. Otherwise you'd know it cannot fail since it's the result of certain physical processes between our atmosphere and the solar wind.
slaphim1doh1

Don't take it personally but I can't stand when people spread the wrong information or when they don't even understand what it is they're talking about. Because it just causes other people to believe in that same misunderstanding and confuses people. You keep saying facts and this and that but never provide any links to display what you're discussing, no articles or papers. As I stated the "breaches" in the magnetosphere were discovered by THEMIS and the results were that they found the sun directly pumps solar wind into our atmosphere through these "holes" because of how plasma and magnetic fields work. It's not a bad thing, it's just a process that occurs and no one noticed until a few years ago. It doesn't mean anything other than that, it's something they didn't see before because they didn't look. It's a natural process and has been occurring for as long as the Earth and Sun have existed.

[link to www.igpp.ucla.edu]

You'd probably find some belief system to shove this tidbit into, but we're constantly losing atmosphere into space, it's something that has been happening since the birth of the solar system and will continue to happen until it dies. We've only recently found this out but it doesn't mean the world is coming to an end. Atmosphere goes out into space, solar wind plasma comes in. And the cycle is complete.
 Quoting: Plasmare


I am aware of everything you just posted(more or less)and I think perhaps you didnt' understand what I was saying in my previous comment.

I am aware how Our Magnetosphere is dependant upon the Solar Wind and its Polarity,you need not quote nor explain but thank you all the same.
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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There are also tons of papers on the Breach/s in our Magnetosphere if you care to read.




But the fact remains that alot more Solar Radiation is making its' way through our Magnetosphere than was previously thought possible..whether this is a new thing or not remains to be seen.


 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Please show me those papers and evidence for those statements, unless you just made it up there should be plenty of data to support those claims because frankly you want people to believe you and yet have no proof of what you say.

You and this anon astrophysicist keep stating opinions like the magnetosphere is failing based upon a simple misunderstanding of one article, have no data or evidence to support any of your claims. So it does seem like you don't really understand how the magnetosphere works from all your posts. And then you say you KNOW how it works even after so many posts which you clearly show you do not? Maybe you KNOw but you don't understand. Or you're just lying because you're pushing some belief onto people.
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[link to connecticut.cbslocal.com]


Really weird.

The plants are budding like it's spring and now the bats are leaving caves thinking it's warm outside. Now you are not allowed into caves...

WIERD.

Clip.
White nose is caused by a fungus that prompts bats to wake from their winter hibernation and die when they fly into the winter landscape in search of food that isn’t there.

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FIRE DESTROYS ALL


"I knew I was over a pattern of tunnels," the engineer explained yesterday, "and I had mapped out the course of the tunnels, the position of large rooms scattered along the tunnel route, as well as the position of deposits of gold, but I couldn't understand the meaning of it."


According to the legend as imparted to Shufelt by Macklin, the radio X-Ray has revealed the location of one of the three lost cities on the Pacific Coast, the local one having been dug by the Lizard People after the "great catastrophe" which occurred about 5000 years ago. This legendary catastrophe was in the form of a huge tongue of fire, which "came out of the Southwest, destroying all in it's path," (continued on Page 5, Column 2) "...the path being several hundred miles wide." The city underground was dug as a means of escaping future fires.

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