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2012gregg (OP) User ID: 933586 United States 01/20/2011 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the correct explanation is that you're just an unobservant, uneducated shithead Quoting: Anonymous Coward 192998oops, I mean shifthead. this is a typical statement from someone who has no argument. btw, are you skipping school today or are you just a "moran"? in5D: [link to www.in5d.com] Maya 2012: [link to www.maya12-21-2012.com] in5d YouTube Channel: [link to www.youtube.com] |
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sea User ID: 1217065 Netherlands 01/20/2011 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Field rotation and libration are both reasons why you might think it's "shifting." Quoting: AstronutSo taking a pic of the moon at a set time for a few years like taking a pic every august at 21:00 and comparing them would prove that field rotation and libration is the cause ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 192998 United States 01/20/2011 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the correct explanation is that you're just an unobservant, uneducated shithead Quoting: 2012greggoops, I mean shifthead. this is a typical statement from someone who has no argument. btw, are you skipping school today or are you just a "moran"? I'm not the idiot claiming that the moon or the Earth shifted, so you might want to rethink who the "moran" who needs to go back to school might be here. |
Astronut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 634208 United States 01/20/2011 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Field rotation and libration are both reasons why you might think it's "shifting." Quoting: seaSo taking a pic of the moon at a set time for a few years like taking a pic every august at 21:00 and comparing them would prove that field rotation and libration is the cause ? Why would you think the moon would look the same at a given time of day on a given date each year? The moon's orbital period is 27.3 days... that doesn't divide evenly into the earth's 365.25 day orbital period around the sun. |
2012gregg (OP) User ID: 933586 United States 01/20/2011 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the correct explanation is that you're just an unobservant, uneducated shithead Quoting: Anonymous Coward 192998oops, I mean shifthead. this is a typical statement from someone who has no argument. btw, are you skipping school today or are you just a "moran"? I'm not the idiot claiming that the moon or the Earth shifted, so you might want to rethink who the "moran" who needs to go back to school might be here. listen, dolt, it's not a "claim", it's a posed question for discussion. don't forget your lunchbox tomorrow in5D: [link to www.in5d.com] Maya 2012: [link to www.maya12-21-2012.com] in5d YouTube Channel: [link to www.youtube.com] |
Gazmik User ID: 487277 United States 01/20/2011 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So taking a pic of the moon at a set time for a few years like taking a pic every august at 21:00 and comparing them would prove that field rotation and libration is the cause ? Quoting: seaIf you took a picture on a specific date at a specific time in a specific location, a year later on the same date and time at the same location, the Moon would be at a different location and phase. It wouldn't do any good. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 192998 United States 01/20/2011 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the correct explanation is that you're just an unobservant, uneducated shithead Quoting: 2012greggoops, I mean shifthead. this is a typical statement from someone who has no argument. btw, are you skipping school today or are you just a "moran"? I'm not the idiot claiming that the moon or the Earth shifted, so you might want to rethink who the "moran" who needs to go back to school might be here. listen, dolt, it's not a "claim", it's a posed question for discussion. don't forget your lunchbox tomorrow "Look at the "eyes" on the moon. They've moved. " That's a claim, dumbfuck. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 96644 United States 01/20/2011 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the correct explanation is that you're just an unobservant, uneducated shithead Quoting: 2012greggoops, I mean shifthead. this is a typical statement from someone who has no argument. btw, are you skipping school today or are you just a "moran"? Do you not realize that ALL objects in the sky, including the constellations and the moon, appear to rotate nearly 180 degrees as the earth rotates? Are you THAT unobservant? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 192998 United States 01/20/2011 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the correct explanation is that you're just an unobservant, uneducated shithead Quoting: Anonymous Coward 96644oops, I mean shifthead. this is a typical statement from someone who has no argument. btw, are you skipping school today or are you just a "moran"? Do you not realize that ALL objects in the sky, including the constellations and the moon, appear to rotate nearly 180 degrees as the earth rotates? Are you THAT unobservant? Apparently. The OP doesn't strike me as a particularly bright individual, much like his fellow 2012/poleshift tard compatriots. |
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sea User ID: 1217065 Netherlands 01/20/2011 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Field rotation and libration are both reasons why you might think it's "shifting." Quoting: AstronutSo taking a pic of the moon at a set time for a few years like taking a pic every august at 21:00 and comparing them would prove that field rotation and libration is the cause ? Why would you think the moon would look the same at a given time of day on a given date each year? The moon's orbital period is 27.3 days... that doesn't divide evenly into the earth's 365.25 day orbital period around the sun. Good point, i am not an astronomer. Any other suggestions that could prove it, these complicated calculations make my head spin ? |
Astronut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 634208 United States 01/20/2011 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good point, i am not an astronomer. Any other suggestions that could prove it, these complicated calculations make my head spin ? Quoting: seaTo prove field rotation all you have to do is observe the way the sky moves over the course of a night. Watch the way Orion is oriented when it rises (laying on his right side, your left), when it's high overhead (standing up fairly straight), and when it sets (laying on his left side, your right). You'll see the same effect in the apparent orientation of the moon. A polar aligned telescope does not see this effect, which is why it is used for long exposure astrophotography. To prove libration you can take photos of the moon when it's at the same phase in different months. If you do so you can even use the difference in perspective to generate a stereoimage of the moon. [link to www.flickr.com] |
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GeekOfTheWeek User ID: 1383040 United States 07/13/2011 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the correct explanation is that you're just an unobservant, uneducated shithead Quoting: Anonymous Coward 192998oops, I mean shifthead. No you were right the first time... I love physics. It bonds us eternally, it's what makes our computers work, it's what's in my morning cup of coffee, it's the thing that keeps the universe from vanishing due to lack of belief... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2424601 Australia 02/09/2012 07:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Libration would account for it appearing to shift if it was within it's standard deviation. However if you compare the current position of the lunar craters with any traditional moon map you can see that they are clearly not within there standard diviation. There has been a French scientist who recently released a paper on this. His summation is thst a polar shift is not a sufficient cause for the amount of obsearvable shift and that there is likely a planetary body of significant size outside our current scope of observation that may or may not be influencing the gravitational stability of the moons orbit, but claims that this possibilty is still speculative and that the definite cause of the shift is still unknown. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10426840 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9552045 United Kingdom 02/09/2012 07:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Libration would account for it appearing to shift if it was within it's standard deviation. However if you compare the current position of the lunar craters with any traditional moon map you can see that they are clearly not within there standard diviation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10426840 Because moon maps are designed for general use, and don't (in fact can't) show field rotation or libration. It's the same as moon phase calendars - they always show a "standard" moon. Field rotation depends on when you look at the moon, and where you are on the earth. Libration is a slow and continuous change. There has been a French scientist who recently released a paper on this. His summation is thst a polar shift is not a sufficient cause for the amount of obsearvable shift and that there is likely a planetary body of significant size outside our current scope of observation that may or may not be influencing the gravitational stability of the moons orbit, but claims that this possibilty is still speculative and that the definite cause of the shift is still unknown. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10426840 I think you're talking about the paper by Lorenzo Iorio, who's Italian BTW. In fact he said exactly the opposite - that the data showns no evidence of a large planetary body affecting the moon. The effect he was looking at is also so small you can't see it with the naked eye. The moon hasn't "shifted" or "tilted", and neither has the earth. You just haven't been looking regularly to see what you think as strange in fact happens all the time. |
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