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U.S. Supreme Court Issues Landmark Decision: Constitution is Void

 
Forever the Student
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Have you taken any steps to establish your standing formally?

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How can I establish my standing, formally ?
 Quoting: jamesofthecommons


sorry... overlooked your question...


There are short and long term answers...

but basically... in the short term...

You must establish INTENT.

The long term fix takes a few months...

so it's important to establish your INTENT... ASAP..

so if you end up in court before finishing the "long term fix"

your butt is covered !
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Are you saying that no one needs to abide by any of their county's founding laws if they were not around at the time of signing? Give me some time to go to the supermarket and get the biggest bag of popcorn available. I want to sit back and watch what happens from my window! popcorn


"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the CONSENT of the governed" - Declaration of Independence
 Quoting: Forever the Student 1013311


And no one alive today was even around to give our consent when the constitution was sighnend !
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Have you taken any steps to establish your standing formally?

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How can I establish my standing, formally ?


sorry... overlooked your question...


There are short and long term answers...

but basically... in the short term...

You must establish INTENT.

The long term fix takes a few months...

so it's important to establish your INTENT... ASAP..

so if you end up in court before finishing the "long term fix"

your butt is covered !
 Quoting: Forever the Student 1013311


Will our corrupt government allow me to formally establish my INTENT ?

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Forever the Student
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Very true !

The constitution says that the people have a right to petition the government for greviances;however,because the constitution was wrote primarly by wealthy slave owning elites, who were very good at saying things people liked to hear,''but in reality were only concernend with their own wealth and power,''they were carefull NOT,to include a provision in the constitution, requiring the government actualy do what the people might be petitioning the government to do.This is one reason,that a new constitutional convention is needed.
 Quoting: jamesofthecommons



With all due respect...

much of what you post above is "progressive propaganda"

The founding fathers were human... but they are not the scumbags the progressives would have you believe..


If the progressives can get you to swallow that...

and get you to reject the whole thing since the get go...

THEY WILL NEVER BE PROSECUTED FOR THEIR TREASON !
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Will our corrupt government allow me to formally establish my INTENT ?
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You have authority SUPERIOR to the government.

We created them.

They can't stop you.

Government has NO RIGHTS.

They only have privileges.. by your consent.

Consent which you can withdraw at any time.
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Yes,can you not tell;have you not read any of my other posts ?

Child, CHILD. Who has the time much less the DESIRE to read your other posts especially when you say things like that? Stop blaming those who would correct you by thrusting your despicable, dirty knife of sarcasm back onto those who are better. It's people like you.... :(
 Quoting: Devil's Advocate


Say things like what ?

Have you no understanding of the use of sarcasam ?

Why did you not finish your post;choke on your mommy's nipple or something ?
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Will our corrupt government allow me to formally establish my INTENT ?


You have authority SUPERIOR to the government.

We created them.

They can't stop you.

Government has NO RIGHTS.

They only have privileges.. by your consent.

Consent which you can withdraw at any time.
 Quoting: Forever the Student 1013311


I never gave the government my consent !
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And no one alive today was even around to give our consent when the constitution was sighnend !
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When you turn 18 you have 30 days to rescind all contracts your parents may have created on your behalf.

It's a tad more involved if you miss the "window" at 18. No biggie though.
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I never gave the government my consent !
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Which brings us full circle...

back to their codified PRESUMPTION...


"A Presumption is but a rule of procedure used to supply wants of facts and its only effect is to cast burden on opposite party of going forward with proof." CiChecki v. City of Hamtrunk, Mich. 170 NW 2nd 58.


see? they use presumption to move the burden of proof to you !



PROVE you're not a US citizen !!

This is injury and a crime !
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nice, the masks are really coming off now aren't they?
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"In my opinion, this is the most serious issue that our country has ever faced. Our rights have been stolen. And the mainstream media refuses to cover this story because they are afraid of the judges. Heaven help us.

"I believe our only hope in America is if the masses become aware of what is taking place. I am writing an expose, and my book will be available at Borders, Barnes & Noble, and on amazon.com soon. The publisher will decide if the title is Lawless America or Screwed, Glued, and Tattooed."
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God creates all things based upon his Sovereignty.

All creation is subject to the Sovereignty of God.

The Design of God is based on the Sovereignty of God.

The Lord Jesus Christ controls human history based upon the Sovereign Design of God.

The Holy Spirit implements the Sovereign Design of God.

The Sovereignty of God is totally unconditional and not subject to the volitional choices of man.

Sin, human good, and evil are not part of the Sovereignty of God.

Carnality and reversionism do not change the Sovereignty of God.


Human good is substitution of human works for the Sovereign Design of God.

Evil is the policy of Satan in rejecting the Sovereign Design of God.

Neither Satan nor evil can alter the Sovereign Design of God.

Those who contend with the Sovereignty of God will be destroyed.

The Sovereignty of God operates in conjunction with the free will of man to fulfill the Divine Design of Creation and Revelation.

The Lord Jesus Christ in His Sovereignty controls all creation and all history.

The Lord Jesus Christ in His Sovereignty controls the rise and fall of nations.

Government leaders are under the control of the Sovereignty of God.

God in His Sovereignty hardens or has mercy.

God in His Sovereignty raises one up and puts another down.

The events of history may be part of the Sovereign Design of God.
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^^^^
THIS
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nice, the masks are really coming off now aren't they?

In my opinion, this is the most serious issue that our country has ever faced. Our rights have been stolen. And the mainstream media refuses to cover this story because they are afraid of the judges. Heaven help us.

"I believe our only hope in America is if the masses become aware of what is taking place. I am writing an expose, and my book will be available at Borders, Barnes & Noble, and on amazon.com soon. The publisher will decide if the title is Lawless America or Screwed, Glued, and Tattooed."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1047074


They didn't steal them...

They got you to VOLUNTEER to give them up !


Two classes of citizen.. (see my posts earlier in this thread)

State citizens (We the People)

Federal citizens (US citizen - created for slaves)
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Very true !

The constitution says that the people have a right to petition the government for greviances;however,because the constitution was wrote primarly by wealthy slave owning elites, who were very good at saying things people liked to hear,''but in reality were only concernend with their own wealth and power,''they were carefull NOT,to include a provision in the constitution, requiring the government actualy do what the people might be petitioning the government to do.This is one reason,that a new constitutional convention is needed.



With all due respect...

much of what you post above is "progressive propaganda"

The founding fathers were human... but they are not the scumbags the progressives would have you believe..


If the progressives can get you to swallow that...

and get you to reject the whole thing since the get go...

THEY WILL NEVER BE PROSECUTED FOR THEIR TREASON !
 Quoting: Forever the Student 1013311


Are you dening that most of the founders were wealthy slave owning elitests,who did not believe the people were capable of electing a president without an electorial college ?

I am ceartain that you remember Shay's Rebellion ?

If there is a provision in the constitution which requires the government to do what the people might petition it to do,then why would it be nessacary to,in the words of Jefferson,''water the tree of liberty with the blood of patriates and tyrants from time to time'' ?

What percentage of the American people were actualy even allowed to vote ,say by the year 1795 ? I will tell you;between 17 and 20 percent ! Still think the founders gave a crap about the will of the people ?
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then it is time.
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I never gave the government my consent !



Which brings us full circle...

back to their codified PRESUMPTION...


"A Presumption is but a rule of procedure used to supply wants of facts and its only effect is to cast burden on opposite party of going forward with proof." CiChecki v. City of Hamtrunk, Mich. 170 NW 2nd 58.


see? they use presumption to move the burden of proof to you !



PROVE you're not a US citizen !!

This is injury and a crime !
 Quoting: Forever the Student 1013311


Are you a lawer ?
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Which brings us full circle...

back to their codified PRESUMPTION...


"A Presumption is but a rule of procedure used to supply wants of facts and its only effect is to cast burden on opposite party of going forward with proof." CiChecki v. City of Hamtrunk, Mich. 170 NW 2nd 58.


see? they use presumption to move the burden of proof to you !



PROVE you're not a US citizen !!

This is injury and a crime !
 Quoting: Forever the Student 1013311


This is the reason for having paperwork in place to demonstrate your INTENT to rescind US citizenship.


It throws the burden of proof back onto them...

and they have no proof !!!
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Are you a lawer ?
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Nope...

Been studying law for 8 years...

have had many fine teachers

and have done everything I'm talking about !
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Of course the courts can do this. The Constitution does not apply as most all Americans are US citizens under the 14th Amendment. Accordingly they are legal entities under private law wherefore the Constitution does not apply.


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I ran a law discussion web forum with 15,000 members for many years.. (now closed unfortunately)
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Soooooooo, in lamens terms, this means what?


If you find yourself in court, the judge is NOT bound by any law.

Thanks.
I like this statement..a LOT!
"Let there be no more illusions. Our government is illegitimate and corrupt. We are no longer morally bound to follow their rules."
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Are you dening that most of the founders were wealthy slave owning elitests,who did not believe the people were capable of electing a president without an electorial college ?

I am ceartain that you remember Shay's Rebellion ?

If there is a provision in the constitution which requires the government to do what the people might petition it to do,then why would it be nessacary to,in the words of Jefferson,''water the tree of liberty with the blood of patriates and tyrants from time to time'' ?

What percentage of the American people were actualy even allowed to vote ,say by the year 1795 ? I will tell you;between 17 and 20 percent ! Still think the founders gave a crap about the will of the people ?
 Quoting: jamesofthecommons


US citizens do NOT have access to the Constitution

Congress has a superior position...

and stands between you and it...

and will interpret it for you !


Constitutional power flow:

Creator -->

man -->

We the People -->

county (sheriff and one supreme court) -->

state constitution -->

state -->

fed constitution -->

fed (legislative / executive / judicial) -->

US citizens and corporations (under Congress (legislative branch))
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Of course the courts can do this. The Constitution does not apply as most all Americans are US citizens under the 14th Amendment. Accordingly they are legal entities under private law wherefore the Constitution does not apply.


[link to www.notmygovernment.us]
 Quoting: The Jurist 1230265



Hey L.B. !!! tounge
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Are you a lawer ?


Nope...

Been studying law for 8 years...

have had many fine teachers

and have done everything I'm talking about !
 Quoting: Forever the Student 1013311


How has this actualy helped you ?
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What percentage of the American people were actualy even allowed to vote ,say by the year 1795 ? I will tell you;between 17 and 20 percent ! Still think the founders gave a crap about the will of the people ?
 Quoting: jamesofthecommons


And do you know why it was only 17-20%?
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"By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation will disconnect herself fully from righteousness. When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near." - Written in the 1880s
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Nice to see others on here searching for truth in end time events ;) hf
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Of course the courts can do this. The Constitution does not apply as most all Americans are US citizens under the 14th Amendment. Accordingly they are legal entities under private law wherefore the Constitution does not apply.


[link to www.notmygovernment.us]



Hey L.B. !!! tounge
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1013311


Who? What? Me?

Want to get a handle on things? Go through this thread...

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jamesofthecommons

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Are you dening that most of the founders were wealthy slave owning elitests,who did not believe the people were capable of electing a president without an electorial college ?

I am ceartain that you remember Shay's Rebellion ?

If there is a provision in the constitution which requires the government to do what the people might petition it to do,then why would it be nessacary to,in the words of Jefferson,''water the tree of liberty with the blood of patriates and tyrants from time to time'' ?

What percentage of the American people were actualy even allowed to vote ,say by the year 1795 ? I will tell you;between 17 and 20 percent ! Still think the founders gave a crap about the will of the people ?


US citizens do NOT have access to the Constitution

Congress has a superior position...

and stands between you and it...

and will interpret it for you !


Constitutional power flow:

Creator -->

man -->

We the People -->

county (sheriff and one supreme court) -->

state constitution -->

state -->

fed constitution -->

fed (legislative / executive / judicial) -->

US citizens and corporations (under Congress (legislative branch))
 Quoting: Forever the Student 1013311


I, nor most of the people I know, never agreed to this power heirachy,but yet we are told that we must accept it and love it,or leave the country !
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No... The Supreme Court is VOID. Obama is VOID.

Throw off your shackles.

Buck off your masters.

Don't submit, don't comply.

Know Thyself, govern yourself, and network with likeminded and liberty loving people.
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America - used to be the land of the free and home of the brave! Rise up again, Americans. Overthrow your slavemasters! Tunisians have done it. So can you!

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If the ruling elite have their way, things will get decidedly worse for the people. Those who understand the situation should resist the ruling elite.

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the problem is the judges are regulated by their peers who wont do a damn thing

the lawyers the same

the lawyers wont turn in bogus judges because they are fearfull nor will the court employees

if people complain they do nothing

alot of judges are assigned for a lifetime and not voted in which is totally wrong

we need to go back to the Republic courts dejure courts, they are easy, fast and have only one rule and that is if you hurt someone you are liable for that damage plus they are constitutional

we are footing the bills for so much when it is not needed and can be so corruptable, the Republic courts would not turn a blind eye
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What percentage of the American people were actualy even allowed to vote ,say by the year 1795 ? I will tell you;between 17 and 20 percent ! Still think the founders gave a crap about the will of the people ?


And do you know why it was only 17-20%?
 Quoting: Forever the Student 1013311


Yes;because 80 percent of the population was not allowed to vote !





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