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"If I had a child now, the last thing I would allow is vaccination."- RETIRED VACCINE RESEARCHER

 
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"If I had a child now, the last thing I would allow is vaccination."- RETIRED VACCINE RESEARCHER
Q: Do you believe that people should be allowed to choose whether they should get vaccines?

A: On a political level, yes. On a scientific level, people need information, so that they can choose well. It's one thing to say choice is good. But if the atmosphere is full of lies, how can you choose? Also, if the FDA were run by honorable people, these vaccines would not be granted licenses. They would be investigated to within an inch of their lives.

Q: There are medical historians who state that the overall decline of illnesses was not due to vaccines.


A: I know. For a long time, I ignored their work.

Q: Why?

A: Because I was afraid of what I would find out. I was in the business of developing vaccines. My livelihood depended on continuing that work.

Q: And then?


A: I did my own investigation.

Q: What conclusions did you come to?


A: The decline of disease is due to improved living conditions.

Q: What conditions?


A: Cleaner water. Advanced sewage systems. Nutrition. Fresher food. A decrease in poverty. Germs may be everywhere, but when you are healthy, you don't contract the diseases as easily.

Q: What did you feel when you completed your own investigation?

A: Despair. I realized I was working a sector based on a collection of lies.

Q: Are some vaccines more dangerous than others?


A: Yes. The DPT shot, for example. The MMR. But some lots of a vaccine are more dangerous than other lots of the same vaccine. As far as I'm concerned, all vaccines are dangerous.

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americans - no balls, no brains, no guts, no backbone and no fucking clue.

carry on.
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Re: "If I had a child now, the last thing I would allow is vaccination."- RETIRED VACCINE RESEARCHER
There is an excellent book called "How to raise a healthy child in spite of your doctor" by the late Dr. Mendelsohn. This book was my bible when I had my first baby. The author was a highly respected pediatrician for decades and came to the conclusion that vaccinations are dangerous and unnecessary. He also explains very clearly when to worry about your child and when not to. High fevers are not necessarily worrisome events. He even talks about head injuries and when to be concerned. I highly recommend it.

Because of the book and other resources I used in my hundreds of hours of research, I got the courage needed to say no to vaccinations, and honestly, I never met a doctor or nurse who questioned my decision. I felt very respected. I believe a lot of parents don't follow their gut about this issue and are too afraid to stand up to doctors. Arm yourself with knowledge and the decision is so much easier to make, and you have ammunition to defend your decision if questioned. This is a lot more than just an autism issue. I believe vaccinations permanently "skew" the immune system towards an autoimmune response, and there is scientific proof of this.
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I just had to get hep A&B, rabies, typhoid, and Japanese encephalitis vaccinations for a trip I am taking overseas. Wound up costing over $1,300 I couldn't believe it.
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I just had to get hep A&B, rabies, typhoid, and Japanese encephalitis vaccinations for a trip I am taking overseas. Wound up costing over $1,300 I couldn't believe it.
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you were forced this vaccination,

why didn't you say no, and go natural
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Re: "If I had a child now, the last thing I would allow is vaccination."- RETIRED VACCINE RESEARCHER
vaccination is a powerful illusion used by the elite to engineer the population.

people merely assume that there will be invisible stuff inside their bodies aiding in protection against a certain disease. come on, this is stupid fairy tale for adults.

in fact, certain statistics show that a percentage of the vaccinated targets develop the very disease they sought protection from. that is because, on a subconscious level, they still held on to their fear of the disease, and fear opens up the mind (and body) to whatever is that you fear, thus manifesting it. so, it's not that a vaccine can do harm or cure -- it does neither. vaccination is mere propaganda based on fear and ignorance designed to control people's minds, and also their bodies when you consider placebo / psychosomatic effects. the pharma companies refuse to do a placebo versus vaccination study, because they know what it would reveal.
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I just had to get hep A&B, rabies, typhoid, and Japanese encephalitis vaccinations for a trip I am taking overseas. Wound up costing over $1,300 I couldn't believe it.

you were forced this vaccination,

why didn't you say no, and go natural
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Certain countries will not let you work in them unless your vaccination record is up to date. My entire family has been vaccinated for foreign diseases for years now because they travel so much, and none of them are showing any signs of illness. Not to say I disagree that it seems mandated, but I do think that the price tag on them is insane.
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Our kids' pediatrician made us sign a form promising we'd give our children all recommended vaccines on schedule or else we aren't "allowed" to go there anymore. We're relocating soon anyway, so it's not much of an issue as we'll be finding a new doc, but yeah, it pissed me off. They're not interested in people doing their own research or thinking for themselves.
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Re: "If I had a child now, the last thing I would allow is vaccination."- RETIRED VACCINE RESEARCHER
There is an excellent book called "How to raise a healthy child in spite of your doctor" by the late Dr. Mendelsohn. This book was my bible when I had my first baby. The author was a highly respected pediatrician for decades and came to the conclusion that vaccinations are dangerous and unnecessary. He also explains very clearly when to worry about your child and when not to. High fevers are not necessarily worrisome events. He even talks about head injuries and when to be concerned. I highly recommend it.

Because of the book and other resources I used in my hundreds of hours of research, I got the courage needed to say no to vaccinations, and honestly, I never met a doctor or nurse who questioned my decision. I felt very respected. I believe a lot of parents don't follow their gut about this issue and are too afraid to stand up to doctors. Arm yourself with knowledge and the decision is so much easier to make, and you have ammunition to defend your decision if questioned. This is a lot more than just an autism issue. I believe vaccinations permanently "skew" the immune system towards an autoimmune response, and there is scientific proof of this.
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So please explain why, after getting every possible vaccine i could get when I was little, is my immune system stronger than most?

I never take any precautions for germs, eat things off the floor when i drop them, eat things with my hands when they are covered in dirt and stuff, and never EVER use hand sanitizer. Shit, i hardly even wash my hands.

Yet, the last time I can remember getting sick was 4 years ago, and that was a mild stomach bug. Before that, i cant remember.
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Re: "If I had a child now, the last thing I would allow is vaccination."- RETIRED VACCINE RESEARCHER
americans - no balls, no brains, no guts, no backbone and no fucking clue.

carry on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1054369

Many Americans are refusing vaccines for their children, and other forms of invasive medical care. Some have their children taken from them. I'd say it takes massive balls to take that stand.
Why don't you check your own sac. I'll bet it's all shriveled up.
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Our kids' pediatrician made us sign a form promising we'd give our children all recommended vaccines on schedule or else we aren't "allowed" to go there anymore. We're relocating soon anyway, so it's not much of an issue as we'll be finding a new doc, but yeah, it pissed me off. They're not interested in people doing their own research or thinking for themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1220977


Take them to a family practice doctor. They are usually far less militant about vaxes. That's what I've done the few times my kids went to see a doc.
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Re: "If I had a child now, the last thing I would allow is vaccination."- RETIRED VACCINE RESEARCHER
There is an excellent book called "How to raise a healthy child in spite of your doctor" by the late Dr. Mendelsohn. This book was my bible when I had my first baby. The author was a highly respected pediatrician for decades and came to the conclusion that vaccinations are dangerous and unnecessary. He also explains very clearly when to worry about your child and when not to. High fevers are not necessarily worrisome events. He even talks about head injuries and when to be concerned. I highly recommend it.

Because of the book and other resources I used in my hundreds of hours of research, I got the courage needed to say no to vaccinations, and honestly, I never met a doctor or nurse who questioned my decision. I felt very respected. I believe a lot of parents don't follow their gut about this issue and are too afraid to stand up to doctors. Arm yourself with knowledge and the decision is so much easier to make, and you have ammunition to defend your decision if questioned. This is a lot more than just an autism issue. I believe vaccinations permanently "skew" the immune system towards an autoimmune response, and there is scientific proof of this.



So please explain why, after getting every possible vaccine i could get when I was little, is my immune system stronger than most?

I never take any precautions for germs, eat things off the floor when i drop them, eat things with my hands when they are covered in dirt and stuff, and never EVER use hand sanitizer. Shit, i hardly even wash my hands.

Yet, the last time I can remember getting sick was 4 years ago, and that was a mild stomach bug. Before that, i cant remember.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 838578


It's not a one-size-fits-all thing for starters. Some babies and children have genes that predispose them to vaccine damage. How old are you? You probably received far fewer vaccines than today's children do. If you're in your 30s you probably received 1/3 of the vaccines required today. If you google the polio SIV debacle that happened in the 50s, a lot of people who received that tainted vaccine died in their 40s and 50s so many times damage doesn't show up until later in life.

You really shouldn't eat stuff off the floor and not wash your hands. You get plenty of exposure to germs even when you do wash your hands. Your immune system appreciates a break, which it gets when you practice some basic sanitation.
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... I got the courage needed to say no to vaccinations, and honestly, I never met a doctor or nurse who questioned my decision. I felt very respected. ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 875198

I never had a doctor complain. Nurses told us vaccination is mandatory, which is completely wrong, fortunately they are under the thumb of the doctors so the doctors can shut them up.
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they do have natroapathic and homeopathic vaccines
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they do have natroapathic and homeopathic vaccines
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care to explain please
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bump
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Let me tell you something about vaccines.........
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few ....
PERIOD!!!!! Any questions?
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americans - no balls, no brains, no guts, no backbone and no fucking clue.

carry on.
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Where do you live that children aren't vaccinated? Third world shithole, where infant mortality rate is twenty percent? Stfu
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I believe in the 70's and 80's they were effective and did work, but now with the sinister evil people in charge can't believe anything is for our health, it's for our destruction.
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Re: "If I had a child now, the last thing I would allow is vaccination."- RETIRED VACCINE RESEARCHER
Our kids' pediatrician made us sign a form promising we'd give our children all recommended vaccines on schedule or else we aren't "allowed" to go there anymore. We're relocating soon anyway, so it's not much of an issue as we'll be finding a new doc, but yeah, it pissed me off. They're not interested in people doing their own research or thinking for themselves.
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I would suggest that this was due to kickbacks recieved from big pharma. I know that a few years ago in the UK, doctors were being given massive bonuses if their vaccination percentage was in excess of 98%. NOw, why would this be so?

Corporate influence? Just think back to the H1N1 scam from last year. Who profited??? Follow the money and you will always find the answer.
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Re: "If I had a child now, the last thing I would allow is vaccination."- RETIRED VACCINE RESEARCHER
An additional problem contributing to the development of cancer is now occurring.

Sloppy isolation techniques have caused widespread viral contamination of the animals used to create vaccines.

The Salk vaccine for polio contained 40 viruses that were never able to be eradicated. (2) This vaccine contained SV40 virus known to cause malignancies.

SV 40 has been identified in 43% of cases of non-Hodgkin lymphoma, 36.5% of brain tumors, mesotheliomas and other malignancies.

The Salk vaccine had been given to more than 10,000,000 persons when this discovery was made. Yellow fever vaccine has been found to contain avian (bird) leukemia virus.

VACCINES GIVE YOU CANCER!
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An additional problem contributing to the development of cancer is now occurring.

Sloppy isolation techniques have caused widespread viral contamination of the animals used to create vaccines.

The Salk vaccine for polio contained 40 viruses that were never able to be eradicated. (2) This vaccine contained SV40 virus known to cause malignancies.

SV 40 has been identified in 43% of cases of non-Hodgkin lymphoma, 36.5% of brain tumors, mesotheliomas and other malignancies.

The Salk vaccine had been given to more than 10,000,000 persons when this discovery was made. Yellow fever vaccine has been found to contain avian (bird) leukemia virus.

VACCINES GIVE YOU CANCER!
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Everything, everything gives you cancer
Everything, everything gives you cancer
There's no cure, there's no answer
Everything gives you cancer

Don't touch that dial
Don't try to smile
Just take this pill
It's in your file

Don't work hard
Don't play hard
Don't plan for the graveyard
Remember

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Everything, everything gives you cancer
There's no cure, there's no answer
Everything gives you cancer

Don't work by night
Don't sleep by day
You'll feel all right
But you will pay

No caffeine
No protein
No booze or nicotine
Remember

Everything, everything gives you cancer
Everything, everything gives you cancer
There's no cure, there's no answer
Everything gives you cancer

No caffeine
No protein
No booze or nicotine
Remember

Everything, everything gives you cancer
Everything, everything gives you cancer
There's no cure, there's no answer
Everything gives you cancer





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