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Anyone know a lot about Model 1894 30-30 Winchesters?

 
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man, the powder they use today is a lot hotter than way back then, i would talk to a certified gunsmith, or call the company that made your ammo.

if lester or et are around they would be of help


Yeah, what this poster said and the cartridge dimensions might be off for the sounds of function test. After all, you are firing an antique.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1134726

Nah, the 30-30 Winchesters have a chamber as tight as 100 dollar whore. Mine is the same way. It's meant to seal the pressure because the round doesnt produce adequate self sealing pressure like some of the more energetic rounds.
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Winchester 94 in 45 long colt
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Good luck! BTW, when you get back, you want to sell it?

I had to ask.

How much is it worth lol? Never thought about it.

SDM
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Is it the short magazine model? If it is it could be worth quite a lot. If it is the run of the mill version with no fancy embellishments it is worth less than a new one.
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Winchester 94 in 45 long colt
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Nah, he said it;'s marked chambered for .30CFW, which is the 30-30
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Re: Anyone know a lot about Model 1894 30-30 Winchesters?
man, the powder they use today is a lot hotter than way back then, i would talk to a certified gunsmith, or call the company that made your ammo.

if lester or et are around they would be of help
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It's against the law to sell ammo stronger that the weakest model that can chamber the round.
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Re: Anyone know a lot about Model 1894 30-30 Winchesters?
man, the powder they use today is a lot hotter than way back then, i would talk to a certified gunsmith, or call the company that made your ammo.

if lester or et are around they would be of help


It's against the law to sell ammo stronger that the weakest model that can chamber the round.
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Ah jezuz, a tranny gun expert
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I'll just strap the fucker down to a big log with some come-alongs and fire it from a distance with a string.

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Op good chance you'll be OK. I too own an 1894 good shooter 30 cailber and 30 grains of smokeless. As already stated low pressure round. Cycling of the cartridge shouldn't be hard but assuming this gun has been used it probably is just a bit tempermental. A piece of advise once you fire the gun, good idea to use the string, see how easy or hard the brass comes out. If the brass does not extract easily or the brass is split at the mouth, take Malu's advice and let a gunsmith inspect it.
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I like the cartridge ejecting out the side, myself.
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always wanted a 1894 or maybe another year lever action(what 6 or 8 shots)winchester rifle but i would take it to somewhere that sells guns and bullets and i am sure they will set you straight on the right course or ya get some 30 30 ammo and make sure it fits in the breech right and tie it to a tree far away and pull the string on that trigger and see what happens, put a target in front to see how accurate if going rthe latter route.
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Re: Anyone know a lot about Model 1894 30-30 Winchesters?
man, the powder they use today is a lot hotter than way back then, i would talk to a certified gunsmith, or call the company that made your ammo.

if lester or et are around they would be of help


It's against the law to sell ammo stronger that the weakest model that can chamber the round.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


i don't know?

Older weapons should not be used with maximum loads. Additionally, some weapons will fit and fire cartridges that are expressly dangerous. One of the more common ones is the ".38" marked on the slides of guns usually before 1930 or so. The .38 on the slide refers to .38 ACP and not the more modern and common .38 Super. The Hornady manual says it better than I can: "The 38 ACP became obsolete in 1929 when Colt introduced the more powerful 38 Super Automatic, an improved version of the .38 ACP loaded to much higher pressures. The cartridges are identical in appearance, but the Super version is dangerous if fired in handguns designed for the original cartridge... Under no circumstances should 38 Super factory ammo or top equivalent reloads be fired in weapons chambered for the older 38 ACP."

apparently this is not the case with 30/30
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Re: Anyone know a lot about Model 1894 30-30 Winchesters?
Op good chance you'll be OK. I too own an 1894 good shooter 30 cailber and 30 grains of smokeless. As already stated low pressure round. Cycling of the cartridge shouldn't be hard but assuming this gun has been used it probably is just a bit tempermental. A piece of advise once you fire the gun, good idea to use the string, see how easy or hard the brass comes out. If the brass does not extract easily or the brass is split at the mouth, take Malu's advice and let a gunsmith inspect it.
 Quoting: SKIRNIR 980737

The more the gun has been cycled the easier the cartridge will chamber. this is because there are microscopic hills and valleys on the chamber surface. The gun is safe to shoot and more than likely hasn't been fired much unless there is rust in the chamber.A gunsmith may or may not know more than I or some of the others here do about it.
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Good luck! BTW, when you get back, you want to sell it?

I had to ask.

How much is it worth lol? Never thought about it.

SDM
 Quoting: SickDaveMondo


My 1950 94 in "32 Win SPL" has been appraised at $800, but its pretty rare. I'd say, given the age of yours, probably nearly the same. I'd shell 500 for it without too much argument. Maybe more if its more than 90%.

Let me know.
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I like the cartridge ejecting out the side, myself.
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Yeah, and I like the Marlin action better all the way around, with the round bolt and positive 'feel' or click when the lever is brought against the receiver. I don't however, like the micro grooved barrel because it wears out quickly.

The winchester design to me always seems to get 'loose' and less positive with age.
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Re: Anyone know a lot about Model 1894 30-30 Winchesters?
The 94 was chambered in more than one caliber, are you sure it's a 30 30?

Yes, 100%. It does fit in the chamber perfectly, and the extractor grabs the round and flings it out fine. It just seems a little stiff getting the round chambered.

SDM
 Quoting: SickDaveMondo

were you trying to watch it cycle? you need to kinda use a little force and speed on the lever.
If you were doing it slowly trying to watch the bullet feed it can stick like your saying. Fill the mag up and cycle them all real fast. I wouldnt worry about it having sat all that time. But if I had it at the range I surely would have fired a few rounds thru it.
Also make sure you clean it well, whoever put it in storage may have applied some grease to keep rust away...you need to brush that out. Id leave it dry if its going to be cold out. Levers are known to get sticky in really cold temps.
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Re: Anyone know a lot about Model 1894 30-30 Winchesters?
man, the powder they use today is a lot hotter than way back then, i would talk to a certified gunsmith, or call the company that made your ammo.

if lester or et are around they would be of help


It's against the law to sell ammo stronger that the weakest model that can chamber the round.


i don't know?

Older weapons should not be used with maximum loads. Additionally, some weapons will fit and fire cartridges that are expressly dangerous. One of the more common ones is the ".38" marked on the slides of guns usually before 1930 or so. The .38 on the slide refers to .38 ACP and not the more modern and common .38 Super. The Hornady manual says it better than I can: "The 38 ACP became obsolete in 1929 when Colt introduced the more powerful 38 Super Automatic, an improved version of the .38 ACP loaded to much higher pressures. The cartridges are identical in appearance, but the Super version is dangerous if fired in handguns designed for the original cartridge... Under no circumstances should 38 Super factory ammo or top equivalent reloads be fired in weapons chambered for the older 38 ACP."

apparently this is not the case with 30/30
 Quoting: malu

.357 will fit in some .38 special revolvers too, the ones that have long cylinders that they called 'Saturday night specials". Fucker will blow up too
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Re: Anyone know a lot about Model 1894 30-30 Winchesters?
Good luck! BTW, when you get back, you want to sell it?

I had to ask.

How much is it worth lol? Never thought about it.

SDM


My 1950 94 in "32 Win SPL" has been appraised at $800, but its pretty rare. I'd say, given the age of yours, probably nearly the same. I'd shell 500 for it without too much argument. Maybe more if its more than 90%.

Let me know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1088754

1894 is the model name, they are still produced today...or were until last year. I think they quit. I know they quit making the trapper and scout models, and all pistol caliber models.
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Re: Anyone know a lot about Model 1894 30-30 Winchesters?
A gunsmith may or may not know more than I or some of the others here do about it.

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Yep. One has to understand that if you take and old Model A down to a modern mechanic and ask him if its oK to run, he can check a few basic things but won't know much specific about it. He/She should be able to tell if its in good condition, though, as I think OP already did.

It sounds like the shoot this weekend will have a lot of guys there that are gun owners. I'd imagine that one of them would be able to ascertain your safety in operation.
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Re: Anyone know a lot about Model 1894 30-30 Winchesters?
The 94 was chambered in more than one caliber, are you sure it's a 30 30?

Yes, 100%. It does fit in the chamber perfectly, and the extractor grabs the round and flings it out fine. It just seems a little stiff getting the round chambered.

SDM

were you trying to watch it cycle? you need to kinda use a little force and speed on the lever.
If you were doing it slowly trying to watch the bullet feed it can stick like your saying. Fill the mag up and cycle them all real fast. I wouldnt worry about it having sat all that time. But if I had it at the range I surely would have fired a few rounds thru it.
Also make sure you clean it well, whoever put it in storage may have applied some grease to keep rust away...you need to brush that out. Id leave it dry if its going to be cold out. Levers are known to get sticky in really cold temps.
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yep, especially with the winchester design
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Re: Anyone know a lot about Model 1894 30-30 Winchesters?
man, the powder they use today is a lot hotter than way back then, i would talk to a certified gunsmith, or call the company that made your ammo.

if lester or et are around they would be of help


It's against the law to sell ammo stronger that the weakest model that can chamber the round.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

They load .30-30 ammo to the same spec as when it was introduced. The rifle was manufactured to handle the spec. ammo. The rifle is "probably" safe to shoot. The only caveat is if the firearm has abnormal wear, it might not be safe.

Look for "slop" in the action, a little wiggle is normal.

Nikki...You don't have a clue what you are talking about..Look up Core-bon and Buffalo Bore ammo... They do come with a warning to verify that your rifle is capable of handling high pressure ammo...


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Re: Anyone know a lot about Model 1894 30-30 Winchesters?
man, the powder they use today is a lot hotter than way back then, i would talk to a certified gunsmith, or call the company that made your ammo.

if lester or et are around they would be of help


It's against the law to sell ammo stronger that the weakest model that can chamber the round.

Ah jezuz, a tranny gun expert
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I grew up reloading.
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Re: Anyone know a lot about Model 1894 30-30 Winchesters?
hey sick Dave..

my husband says YOUR VAGINA IS OK and so Is Your Rifle
(he says you will know what that means)

good ammo
Hornaby makes 30-30 balistic tip ammo for lever action rifles

lever revolution not cheap but the best
happy hunting
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Re: Anyone know a lot about Model 1894 30-30 Winchesters?
man, the powder they use today is a lot hotter than way back then, i would talk to a certified gunsmith, or call the company that made your ammo.

if lester or et are around they would be of help


It's against the law to sell ammo stronger that the weakest model that can chamber the round.

Ah jezuz, a tranny gun expert


I grew up reloading.
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It wasn't a dig, necessarily
lmao

You just don't usually think of post OP transsexuals with one leg as gun experts, ordinarily, but to each his own I always say
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Re: Anyone know a lot about Model 1894 30-30 Winchesters?
hey sick Dave..

my husband says YOUR VAGINA IS OK and so Is Your Rifle
(he says you will know what that means)

good ammo
Hornaby makes 30-30 balistic tip ammo for lever action rifles

lever revolution not cheap but the best
happy hunting
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LOL< just get some winchester ammo at wally world for christs sake, he's not going to a match. That shit is expensive!
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Re: Anyone know a lot about Model 1894 30-30 Winchesters?
hey sick Dave..

my husband says YOUR VAGINA IS OK and so Is Your Rifle
(he says you will know what that means)

good ammo
Hornaby makes 30-30 balistic tip ammo for lever action rifles

lever revolution not cheap but the best
happy hunting
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 659511

don't forget about an all copper round for those rascally giants, just to be safe, hehehe, only kidding.
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Re: Anyone know a lot about Model 1894 30-30 Winchesters?
My 1950 94 in "32 Win SPL" has been appraised at $800, but its pretty rare. I'd say, given the age of yours, probably nearly the same. I'd shell 500 for it without too much argument. Maybe more if its more than 90%.

Let me know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1088754

I ran the serial # and it comes up as manufactured in 1910 on this site [link to oldguns.net]

All original wood, no pitting or tarnish. One good scratch by the large screw above the trigger assenmbly though.

SDM
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Re: Anyone know a lot about Model 1894 30-30 Winchesters?
Good luck! BTW, when you get back, you want to sell it?

I had to ask.

How much is it worth lol? Never thought about it.

SDM


My 1950 94 in "32 Win SPL" has been appraised at $800, but its pretty rare. I'd say, given the age of yours, probably nearly the same. I'd shell 500 for it without too much argument. Maybe more if its more than 90%.

Let me know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1088754

I recommend that the OP holds on to it if he is young, when he gets older he can sell it or pass it down and it will be worth much more. It's more than likley not worth 500 right now, you have to remember there are hundreds of thousands of winchester 94's that predate the OP's and a large percentage of them are still in working order.

I have a 30-30 I bought in 1970 that cost 89 dollars out of the sear roebuck catalog. Man, those were the good old days.
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op u good it,s probable in pretty good shape thats why it,s tight I killed 2 deer with one just like it this year .Best 30/30 ever made shoot the thing boy ..
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I love my 40 year old Marlin 30-30 336C.
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My 1950 94 in "32 Win SPL" has been appraised at $800, but its pretty rare. I'd say, given the age of yours, probably nearly the same. I'd shell 500 for it without too much argument. Maybe more if its more than 90%.

Let me know.

I ran the serial # and it comes up as manufactured in 1910 on this site [link to oldguns.net]

All original wood, no pitting or tarnish. One good scratch by the large screw above the trigger assenmbly though.

SDM
 Quoting: SickDaveMondo


You never did answer my question, does the rifle have a short magazine (Concealed in the forestock), with a half octagonal barrel, or does the magazine go all the way to the end of the barrel? there were not many of the former made an it makes it worth ten to twenty times as much
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op u good it,s probable in pretty good shape thats why it,s tight I killed 2 deer with one just like it this year .Best 30/30 ever made shoot the thing boy ..
I love my 40 year old Marlin 30-30 336C.
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I have the same piece, I got mine for Christmas when i was 12

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