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After Congress passes CAFTA by one vote in a midnight count, questions are being raised about the process. We speak with the Director of Public Citizen´s Global Trade Watch about the GOP leaders´ round-up of House votes to approve trade agreement. [includes rush transcript]
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In a midnight vote, Congress narrowly approved the Central American Free Trade Agreement, or CAFTA. The final vote was 217 - 215 in the House, the closest margin possible as a tie vote would have blocked approval. Democratic Congressperson Marcy Kaptur said yesterday, "Compared to the vote a decade ago on NAFTA, which carried by a margin of only thirty-four votes, this vote was even more razor-thin. It barely crawled across the finish line."
To pass the agreement, the White House and GOP leaders had to overcome resistance from dozens of Republican members who opposed CAFTA because of issues ranging from the threat to the US sugar industry to more general worries about the impact of global trade on U.S. jobs. To lobby wavering Republicans, President Bush made a rare visit to Capitol Hill and Vice President Dick Cheney reportedly spent hours personally lobbying Congress members.

Publicly, the Bush Administration has been selling CAFTA as a national security issue, rather than an economic issue.


Scott McClellan, White House Press Secretary:
"It helps to strengthen democracy in our own hemisphere. This goes right to our own national security. This is an agreement that will help extend peace and prosperity throughout the Western hemisphere. While we´re working to advance freedom abroad we also need to be looking at our own hemisphere and make sure that we´re supporting the democratic efforts that continue to advance in our own hemisphere."
Meanwhile, critics of the trade pact have been blasting the last-minute maneuvering by GOP leaders determined to pass the agreement.

When official voting had ended in the House at 11:17 pm, as the fifteen minute voting period had expired, legislators had actually voted to defeat CAFTA 180 (one hundred eighty) -175 (one hundred seventy five). But in an unusual move the final House vote was held open for an extra forty seven minutes, giving Republican leaders time to furiously round up holdouts in their own party until they had secured just enough to ensure approval.


Nancy Pelosi, House Minority Leader:
"The Republicans turned the floor of the House of the Representatives into a "Let´s Make a Deal" set that was reminiscent of what happened at the time of the medicare prescription drug legislation that evening and again this time they kept the vote open a long time. But many of the overtures that were made to members was made before even going to the floor. So this is about again an abuse of power, an unethical way of passing legislation and depending on what members decide to do, may require further attention."
Meanwhile, Republican Rep. Charles Taylor of North Carolina said he voted against the bill, but that a problem with the electronic voting system failed to record the vote.


Lori Wallach, Director of Public Citizen´s Global Trade Watch
AMY GOODMAN: This is Scott McClellan, White House Press Secretary:

SCOTT MCCLELLAN: It helps to strengthen democracy in our own hemisphere. This goes right to our own national security. This is an agreement that will help extend peace and prosperity throughout the Western Hemisphere. While we´re working to advance freedom abroad, we also need to be looking in our own hemisphere and make sure that we´re supporting the democratic efforts that continue to advance in our own hemisphere.

AMY GOODMAN: That was White House Press Secretary, Scott McClellan. Meanwhile, critics of the trade pact have been blasting the last minute maneuvering by GOP leaders determined to pass the agreement.

JUAN GONZALEZ: When official voting had ended in the House at 11:17 p.m., as the fifteen-minute voting period expired, legislators had actually voted to defeat CAFTA, 180 to 175. But in an in an unusual move, the final House vote was held open for an extra 47 minutes, giving Republican leaders time to furiously round up holdouts in their own party until they had secured just enough to ensure approval. This is House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi:

NANCI PELOSI: What I said was that the Republicans turned the floor of the House of Representatives into a "Let´s Make a Deal" set that was reminiscent of what happened at the time of the Medicare prescription drug legislation that evening, and again this time they kept the vote open a long time. But many of the overtures that were made to members was made before even going to the floor. So this is about again an abuse of power, an unethical way of passing legislation and, depending on what members decide to do, may require further attention.

AMY GOODMAN: That was California Congress Member Nancy Pelosi, Minority Leader of the House of Representatives, speaking on CNN. Republican Congress Member Charles Taylor of North Carolina said he thought he voted against the bill, but that a problem with the electronic voting system failed to record the vote. We´re joined right now in our Washington studio by Lori Wallach with Public Citizen´s Global Trade Watch. Welcome to Democracy Now!, Lori.

LORI WALLACH: Good morning, more or less.

AMY GOODMAN: Can you explain what took place? Start with that Taylor story.

LORI WALLACH: Well, as you said, if the vote had been 217-217, CAFTA would have gone down, and in fact, the vote probably really was 217-217. Even after a year-and-a-half of the White House pushing this NAFTA expansion, after the President was forced to make one of his first visits to Capitol Hill, literally in years, after Vice President Cheney set up shop literally off the floor of the Congress that night, with so much of the Cabinet trolling the halls of Congress that looked like a Cabinet meeting had become basically a roving craps game in the House of Representatives for the entire last week, after threats of cutting people off of committees, taking away all of their funding, after promises and luring in all of corporate America, what it came down to was ultimately, even with that, and for a trade agreement that for the U.S. is not very big economically of a deal, they had to make two people take a walk.

And what happened was there, mysteriously, was the computer problem that did not record the "no" vote of Congressman Charlie Taylor, a guy from the Carolinas, said he voted no. Funny thing, they held the vote open for 62 minutes, and somehow, even though there was a stadium-size scoreboard that has your name and either a green or a red light, Mr. Taylor didn´t realize that his vote wasn´t recorded and no one found him for an entire hour-plus to go fix that problem.

Then there was a second Member, Jo Ann Davis from Virginia, who claims she got stuck on her way back from the Boy Scout jamboree. Now, the hitch on that one is the Boy Scout jamboree event she was going to got canceled at 5:00, and this vote was at 11:30, and basically you could go by yak between where it was and the Capitol and still be here for the vote, if you intended to be there. Both of those members had agreed to vote no.

And that doesn´t even get, Amy, to the eight members of the Republican -- eight Republican members of Congress who were committed to voting no, when, as you heard, they stopped the clock. The leftover members were Republicans, and they sat there and browbeat people. They got two other people to switch votes. Then they let two of those Republicans vote against it. It was disgusting. I mean, when I hear Scott McClellan talk about CAFTA and democracy, it should be CAFTA, the cancer on democracy. Because when you see what happened in our Congress, when you saw in Guatemala, for instance, the military was called out to shoot at peaceful Mayans marching towards the capital to protest and murdered two people, the military called out against civilians in violation of the peace accords, I mean, it´s just a perversion of democracy caused by this agreement before it would go into effect. It’s disgusting.

JUAN GONZALEZ: Well, Lori, while the administration says that this was really economically not that important, why then did it use such immense pressure on fellow Republicans to pass it? I mean, clearly there had been a lot of defeats in recent years around this whole issue of free trade, beginning with, obviously, the World Trade Organization, the Free Trade Area of the Americas, that there was before that the fast track legislation was defeated. Why did they feel such a need to get something through?

LORI WALLACH: Well, this is the good news and the bad news. The good news is CAFTA basically being truly of not that much economic significance, because all of six Central American countries in CAFTA’s annual GNP together is about equivalent to the annual activity, economically, of New Haven, Connecticut. The reason why it became a very big deal, was because, symbolically, it was like a referendum on the record of NAFTA. CAFTA was an expansion of NAFTA and that model, and in a way, it was a question about whether or not that model would have any viability. So this became a huge symbolic vote. The good news is that for that an agreement that didn´t really mean much economically, that it took that to sleaze it through, which they really, actually, if you counted all the votes, didn´t, bodes very well for the fact that the economically significant attempts to pursue that model further, like the hemisphere-wide NAFTA expansion, called the Free Trade Area of the Americas, is toast, if that´s what it took to get something like CAFTA through.

The bad news is for people in Central America, this is devastating. Right? I mean, the provisions are very clear: People with HIV and AIDS who need medicine, who use generics will die now, because they will not get generic drugs, because this agreement takes away the ability to produce generic drugs. People in Central America who rely on essential public services, their drinking water, electricity, education, or for instance in Costa Rica, the whole telecommunications system, government guaranteed access, has to be privatized and deregulated under this agreement. People´s difficult lives will be made much harder, or as Oxfam and the World Bank reported, millions of Central American Campesinos, small farmers, who are hanging on by their fingernails as it is, are going to get flattened by this agreement, and there are going to be millions of displaced and hungry people. Talk about instability. I mean, if it takes the military killing people to get the thing passed, and you know the results are going to be devastating, destabilizing, economically and socially, as a national security matter, but as a human, moral matter, what this is going to do in Central America, is God-awful.

And that is why, even though the vote has happened, there´s one more action for people of justice in the U.S., and that is to call the members of Congress, because there are a lot of them, despite all this beating, who did the right thing, and thank them and keep them buoyed-up and ready to fight on the next agreements, because there´s been incredible momentum, public education, new people brought to the fight for the future of finally boxing and burying this failed model. But for those members of Congress who voted wrong, they need to feel it 24/7. We can´t let the calls go away once the vote happens. If they voted wrong, they need to get three times more calls and come election time, the job that needs to be lost is theirs. And there are some people on whom we can do that. That´s how we win. That´s how we take the work that was done and the momentum on this vote, and we turn it into a real honest vote victory, because if you think of what they had to do, and the fact really of people -- if all of the people had voted we would have won, it actually bodes well for our future, even though it´s horrific for what it´s going to do in Central America.

JUAN GONZALEZ: And Lori, I understand, one report I read said that the pharmaceutical companies got greater protection against generic drugs in this legislation than they have already in the United States.

LORI WALLACH: That´s true, and it´s a god-awful provision. It literally, the rule is, under CAFTA, every country has to adopt – has to modify all of their domestic laws to meet CAFTA´s rules. And CAFTA´s rule is that a generic drug company is not allowed to get access to the data that the brand name company used, the testing data to prove safety and efficacy, so that the generic company would theoretically have to do all of the studies over. Now, of course, that´s where the saving is. And typically, a generic company uses the information, the testing data that´s used to get the marketing approval, the right to sell the drug in a country, to get their own marketing approval.

AMY GOODMAN: Lori, we have five seconds.

LORI WALLACH: That´s now made a monopoly.

AMY GOODMAN: Lori Wallach, I want to thank you very much for being with us. Public Citizen’s Global Trade Watch is her organization.

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IAHF List: I hope a lot of you watched the CAFTA vote on the House Floor on C-
Span as I did and the emotional pain I´m feeling right now over this is just
huge. I took yesterday off to decompress.

We´re witnessing the complete dismantling and destruction of our once proud
nation before our eyes as it gets subsumed into a world government- but we´re
just goint to have to REDOUBLE our efforts and REBOUND from this loss to make
DAMN SURE we kill the Free Trade Area of the Americas whenever they try to
shaft us with that one.

My favorite testimony on the House floor was that of Stephanie Tubbs Jones (D-
OH) who summarized the whole situation quite succinctly when she said "NAFTA-
CAFTA- SHAFTA!!"

The most moving testimony came from Rep. Howard Coble, R-N.C., who said he told
President Bush that his late mother was a textile worker and that when textile
workers urged him to vote against CAFTA, "I said to the president, ´it´s my
mamma talking to me.´"


CONFUSION OVER VOTE OF CHARLES TAYLOR (R-NC) WHO TRIED TO VOTE NO

The Media reported immediately afterwards that we´d lost by two votes
(217-215), but the Clerk´s office the next day changed the vote tally so the
official count was 217-216 because of confusion about the vote of Charles
Taylor (R-NC) who had TRIED to vote no:

"Due to an error, my ´no´ vote did not record on the voting machine," said
Taylor in a statement released Thursday. "The Clerk´s computer logs verified
that I had attempted to vote, but it did not show my ´nay.´ I am re-inserting
my ´No´ vo-te in the record. But even with my ´No´ vote re-inserted, the bill
still passed."

I see from [link to clerk.house.gov] that the clerk hasn´t yet corrected this, and am going to call to request the record be changed to reflect Taylor´s vote.

JOANNE DAVIS WANTED TO VOTE NO BUT WAS "STUCK IN TRAFFIC"

JoAnne Davis (R-VA) had wanted to vote NO, but was unable to get back in time
to vote from the Boy Scout National Jamboree which is taking place in Virginia.
Her vote would have made it a TIE which would have meant the measure would not
have passed. Where the hell were HER priorities, anyway? She needs to be driven
from office. She should have been there to vote. Vitamin consumers in and
around Fredericksburg VA please take note and REMEMBER THIS.

BIGGEST TRAITOR: ROBIN HAYES (R-NC) SWITCHED FRON NO VOTE TO YES AT LAST MINUTE

We need to drive Robin Hayes (R-NC) out of office. He should have listened to
the testimony of Congressman Paul who cited his FIRST reason for opposing CAFTA
as being that it didn´t square with the commerce clause in the constitution, so
it was therefor ILLEGAL.

Intead, this TRAITOR allowed his arm to be twisted with promises that were most
likely quite empty.
Vitamin consumers living in his district around Concord and Rockingham NC,
please TAKE NOTE!!

As time ran out on a House vote early Thursday -- with CAFTA headed to apparent
defeat -- Speaker Dennis Hastert told Hayes he could promise increased GOP
attention to the challenges China poses to the domestic textile industry.

Hayes said he changed his mind after Nicaragua agreed to require its trouser
manufacturers to increase their use of American fabric as much as 200 percent
in order export trousers to the U.S.

Hayes said changes to the measure now amount to nearly $200 million in current
and new exports and that textiles companies said those change were "critical to
them keeping jobs in the 8th District."

North Carolina exported $1.7 billion in goods to the CAFTA region in 2004,
Hayes said, making it the third largest total behind Florida and Texas and "80
percent of North Carolina´s exports to the region will be duty-free
immediately."

In a telephone interview Thursday, Hayes said he had voted no when the clock
ran out on CAFTA late Wednesday night, with the measure apparently headed to a
214-210 defeat. That´s when House Speaker Dennis Hastert asked if Hayes was
willing to switch.

WHATS NEXT?

IAHF & Allied Groups are going to be BLACKLISTING every member of congress who
made the MISTAKE of abandoning their OATH to vote for CAFTA. We will be posting
the roster on our websites and we´re going to use this situation to keep the
ball rolling.

I am heading for the PANLA CONFERENCE this coming week in Pennsylvania [link to www.panla.org] where I´ll be addressing the CODEX International Threat to Health Freedom and I´ll be showing Kevin Miller´s documentary titled "WE BECOME SILENT" Please attend if you live anywhere in the vicinity of Harrisburg PA, I´ll be selling copies of the DVD film for you to use to educate people in your area.

We need to get funds to Kevin Miller so that he can make an EXPANDED version of
this film, because we´ll clearly need it as a means of educating people if we
are to have a chance of stopping FTAA which has even MORE treacherous
harmonization language in it than CAFTA does.

I want to THANK each and every one of you who took the time to educate friends
and neighbors and to get them to make calls to Congress. You might think from
this that things are hopeless, and that we might as well give up. Some have
emailed me to tell me they feel crushed and hopeless by this, but we can´t
allow ourselves to EVER give up!

SOME PERSPECTIVE & SOMETHING THAT KEEPS ME GOING

When I was 16 years old, a tree fell on me in a tornado. I had an out of body
experience that changed my life and I haven´t been the same since. I was in a
tent when it fell on me while I was on a canoe trip through the Adirondack
Mountains of Upstate, New York.

I was not ready to go, my life had only just begun. It was the night of July 4,
1972. When we turned in for the night, it was eerily calm, but a thunderstorm
came up quickly and the tornado came out of it sounding like a freight train
bearing down on us. We had a false sense of security from being in the tent. I
was curled up on my side holding up the front tent pole, while the guy in the
back was curled up holding up the back tent pole. There were 3 of us sleeping
across the width of a 2 man tent because one of our other tents had a hole in
it that we hadn´t repaired yet.

The guy in the middle was shining his flashlight on the side of the tent in a
futile effort to dab water proofing stuff on it while the wind blew so hard it
was blowing the rain right through the walls of the tent and we had to yell to
be heard by the person next to us.

He saw the shadow of the tree as it fell, and grabbed my shoulder, slamming me
flat so I wouldn´t be in curled up position when it hit which could have broken
my back or ribs, then he dived on top of the guy in the back to escape being
hit himself.

I was tomahawked, and at first thought I´d been hit by lightening. It was the
most excruciating pain I´d ever felt as my hip and pelvis were shattered, my
bladder was ruptured and my urethra was ripped loose from my bladder.

I went hurtling through space at a high rate of speed, but wasn´t ready to go.
I was yelling over and over "No!No! No! No! as I came very close to crossing
over to the other side. There were beings shining with white light on the other
side, and it was a place of unconditional love that swept over me as I came
closer like the tide sweeps over a beach at high tide, but I wasn´t ready to
go, and the next thing I knew I was snapped back as if attached to a bungee
cord and was suspended about 30´ above my body.

I saw the trail guide slash the tent open with his knife so the other two guys
could climb over me and I saw them exit the tent. I saw the guide grab my wrist
and check for a pulse which I knew he wasn´t going to find. I didn´t want him
to worry, and I tried crying out "I´m not in there, but its OK, I tried to
yell, but had no vocal cords and THATS when it fully hit me- "OH SHIT, I´M NOT
IN MY BODY!" I was afraid. I wanted to go back in my body, but didn´t know
how.

Next thing I knew I was in the presence of our Creator. Neither of us had a
physical form and he said "Its up to you, you can come with me, or you can go
back into your body." Then I REALLY felt afraid, not knowing what to do, so I
said "Can you tell me anything about what my life would be like if I choose to
go back?" He replied: " Sorry, can´t answer that, it would interfere with your
free will."

Then I REALLY got scared and PLEADED with him to give me something, ANYTHING to
go by (and in that moment I think I became a lobbyist). In any case, he said
"Alright, but if I agree to respond to your question, I´ll have to chose my
words very carefully or it would interfere with your free will, and if I
respond, you´ve got to promise me that you´ll make a decision immediately after
what I´m about to say."

I agreed.

He then said "All I can tell you is that if you decide to reenter your body,
you will end up going through something far more painful even than recovering
from this accident."

That was acceptable to me, and the next thing I knew "POOF!" I was back in my
body, the trail guide was astonished because my eyes were open and suddenly I
was giving him advice on how to rescue me. He´d been attempting CPR on me for
45 minutes and could not get a pulse, then all of a sudden my eyes were open
and I was telling him not to try to move me without strapping me on a guerney
because we didn´t know if my neck or back were broken. I told him not to try to
transport me in a canoe or runabout due to the lake being whipped up into
whitecaps- to only transport me on a very stable vessel.

They got a motor catamaran from the Raquette Lake Rescue Squad designed to have
a guerney fastened to the deck by quick release fasteners and carried me down
the hill on a guerney to the boat. At the dock, they had an ambulance waiting
and they had to hold the glucose bottles out the window to get the gravity
feed.

They had to bring chainsaws with them and a pevey to move trees that had been
felled across the road by the tornado and get me 100 miles through the
wilderness to the hospital in Utica.

At one point they stopped at Old Forge to take xrays and to radio the results
ahead to the hospital and to urge that a team of surgeons be airlifted in from
NYC by helicopter, and I had a 7 hour long operation. When I came to, I was in
intensive care in a body cast with tubes going in and out of me and they had
injected me with demerol.

I was in the body cast for several months and had to learn to walk again and go
through intensive physical therapy, but was playing baseball again not long
after, so I bounced back fast.

I did end up going through something even more painful than this accident, and that was surviving 4 years mired in the psychiatric system, escaping only by smuggling in vitamins which I was forced to hide in a cavity in my foam mattress- [link to www.iahf.com]

When people ask me the question "WHERE DOES THIS LEAVE US"? WHAT CAN WE DO NOW?

At this point, all I can tell you is that we need to PRAY. I can tell you with
authority from being out of my body and from being on the edge of crossing over
to the other side that there is a CREATOR who sees our struggle against the
NEOCON TROTSKYITE SWINE who are selling our nation into bondage through this
New World Order.

I can tell you with authority that we came into this world with nothing, and we
leave with nothing. These Fat Cats who are trying to lay this crap on us can´t
take it with ´em when they go, and they will be held accountable for their
crimes- all of this is a test- a test to see how we act, and no one "gets away"
with anything at all.

We are witnesses to a crime, a crime of vast proportions, and we might not ever
get the JUSTICE that we´re striving for, but we HAVE TO TRY, and NEVER GIVE
UP!!!

By the Grace of God I was able to recover from a life threatening illness
through a suppressed alternative treatment mode, and by the Grace of God, I
will do all in my power to defeat these traitors who ignored their oaths of
office and voted for CAFTA.

I vow to make this a campaign issue in each of the districts where these
traitors screwed us.

I vow to work with the OPPONENTS of eacy of these traitors, and I don´t care
which PARTY these opponents are with because I am not a Republican or
Democrat.

In closing, we all need to THANK Ron Paul, and the others, of both parties who DID vote against CAFTA. See the roster here from the clerk [link to clerk.house.gov]

Please take the time to send a quick email to those who DID STAND WITH US,
those who DIDN´T, we´re going to DRIVE FROM OFFICE.

IAHF has had huge bandwith charges over the past month and I need help to keep
the site online.
Please help if you possibly can and haven´t already. See address below:

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rrick  (OP)

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Sorry thought it was in there

[link to www.democracynow.org]
ANON  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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I posted a quick thread yesterday about Haestert and Delay and CAFTA and the irregularities.

There are two links on the thread, one of which is www.buzzflash.com

This is good info. Thanks for including it all.
Concerned Aussie from Perth  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:13 AM
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"President Dick Cheney reportedly spent hours personally lobbying Congress members. "

I wonder what methods he used to "persuade" members?
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It is interesting that the things he chooses to become visible with are CAFTA, blocking limits on interrogation methods in the military, and Niger yellow cake.
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~ What a friggin´ mess...the whole thing..whew! Something´s got to give, this is NOT NOT NOT God´s Divine Plan for the United States of America by any stretch of the imagination..oh no ! Time for a NEW BEGINNNING...an ideal world where electronically tampered with voting machines do noT exist...and a beautiful constitutionally based government is not put on the auction block, up for grabs to the highest corporate bidder... ptouey! SPit out that bad seed! POWER TO THE PEOPLE OF INTEGRITY AND TRUTH ~ ~ ~ ~ Power to us now .... banana2headbangbonghitluvstonerheadbang
ANON  (OP)

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Blue Dolphin,

I am beginning to develop a sense of calm because of the incredible number of anti´American, anti-Constitutional, anti-human race,...anti-civilized actions and the DEGREE of these actions and the IN YOUR FACE approach make it inevitable that this will not continue. I think there is a process of self-destruction that crossed a line. It cannot go on.

I am hoping the FBI investigation into the CIA leak is the conduit to bring all of this DOWN and HALT anymore of this.
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12347, I agree with you and feel the same way...it is just SO blatant...it simply can not continue in this tack, NO WAY. How exactly the correcting will occur, that is in the hands of a Power much greater than mine...but we can feed and help this greater power along by kindling the fires of Faith with confidence and Trust that YES , GOODNESS and upliftment, TOLERANCE and Diversity is the true destination of humankind...all else is an inferior plan that is destined to and IS falling away... flower We decree it~ As The Beloved Children of Laughter Truth and Justice, so be it...and it is so. cheerluvcheer
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To Truth and Justice. May the forces of Good defeat the forces of Evil that are in control in the U.S. May they be banished forever. May they each develop a conscience and awaken to the awful things they have done.
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ONE WORLD GOVT HERE WE COMEdance
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