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Scrump's Newsletter 1/2011 *Total Economic Collapse: Catastrophe 2011*

 
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I would support common people with a heart, Khimmy is a perfect example to lead us....

Because a common person would make the decisions for the greatest good for the most amount of people.

You must remove the money from politics first...and that is the battle that is coming
 Quoting: I Want To Know It All


I agree that a 'Regular Joe (or Jane)' would blow the doors off anyone in DC...*Medina for Governor!* but there are no real "Regular Joe's" to choose from today...

It takes tens to hundreds of millions of dollars to be elected these days... you'll never change that... it's a machine.

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I would support common people with a heart, Khimmy is a perfect example to lead us....

Because a common person would make the decisions for the greatest good for the most amount of people.

You must remove the money from politics first...and that is the battle that is coming
 Quoting: I Want To Know It All


I agree that a 'Regular Joe (or Jane)' would blow the doors off anyone in DC...*Medina for Governor!* but there are no real "Regular Joe's" to choose from today...

It takes tens to hundreds of millions of dollars to be elected these days... you'll never change that... it's a machine.
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan

Everything can change.....revamp of the whole system is possible.....If the People unite for it....This is their corner stone of power...it's too expensive for Jack and Jane...that is where our focus should be...But it will take a united America all speaking in one voice this is how it's going to be............

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Everything can change.....revamp of the whole system is possible.....If the People unite for it....This is their corner stone of power...it's too expensive for Jack and Jane...that is where our focus should be...But it will take a united America all speaking in one voice this is how it's going to be............

Imagine
 Quoting: I Want To Know It All


I agree entirely with this.

1) People stop participating in consumer culture and minimize use of credit. Advertising ceases because it doesn't work, this breaks one corner of the mind control triangle. Demand-side stagflation would occur, which would "softly collapse" the economy and almost overnight make the petite bourgeoisie bloated and largely corrupt management class obsolete, good buy wasteful McMillionaires! Eventually the supply-side would adjust to the new level of demand. In all of this, food is a constant the supply and demand for this economy doesn't change, so we all still eat. afro

2) Once people break the mind control hold from advertising, most of the social engineering culture programming gets voided, real writers will have to be called in to write shows that people actually will watch because they are no longer interested in the Sex and the City, Friends, Skins Date my 14 Year Old Pregnant Homosexual HIV Daughter shows. TV will no longer be a source of message and again be a source of entertainment. Political activism can be done again on a local or internet-local level. No or little money required.

So who's going to make this happen? hmm

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Everything can change.....revamp of the whole system is possible.....If the People unite for it....This is their corner stone of power...it's too expensive for Jack and Jane...that is where our focus should be...But it will take a united America all speaking in one voice this is how it's going to be............

Imagine
 Quoting: I Want To Know It All


Everything will change, but still Smith what is your plan to execute your "imagination"!? :)

In other words, exactly how do you expect the people to unite for it!!!???
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1) People stop participating in consumer culture and minimize use of credit. Advertising ceases because it doesn't work, this breaks one corner of the mind control triangle. Demand-side stagflation would occur, which would "softly collapse" the economy and almost overnight make the petty bourgeoisie bloated and largely corrupt management class obsolete, good buy wasteful McMillionaires! Eventually the supply-side would adjust to the new level of demand. In all of this, food is a constant the supply and demand for this economy doesn't change, so we all still eat. afro

2) Once people break the mind control hold from advertising, most of the social engineering culture programming gets voided, real writers will have to be called in to write shows that people actually will watch because they are no longer interested in the Sex and the City, Friends, Skins Date my 14 Year Old Pregnant Homosexual HIV Daughter shows. TV will no longer be a source of message and again be a source of entertainment. Political activism can be done again on a local or internet-local level. No or little money required.

So who's going to make this happen? hmm
 Quoting: Least Servant


Exactly, so who is going to make this happen!!!???
Easier said than done... wink
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I would support common people with a heart, Khimmy is a perfect example to lead us....

Because a common person would make the decisions for the greatest good for the most amount of people.

You must remove the money from politics first...and that is the battle that is coming
 Quoting: I Want To Know It All


I agree that a 'Regular Joe (or Jane)' would blow the doors off anyone in DC...*Medina for Governor!* but there are no real "Regular Joe's" to choose from today...

It takes tens to hundreds of millions of dollars to be elected these days... you'll never change that... it's a machine.
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan

Everything can change.....revamp of the whole system is possible.....If the People unite for it....This is their corner stone of power...it's too expensive for Jack and Jane...that is where our focus should be...But it will take a united America all speaking in one voice this is how it's going to be............

Imagine
 Quoting: I Want To Know It All


I can imagine it HERE, with people who can AT LEAST SEE the problem...but out there? In the real world? People are discussing Jersey Shore and Sarah Palin and Oprah.

I agree with Scrump. It'll never change. Not, at least, before the whole thing collapses and the survivors once again band together and pick up the pieces. Maybe then...
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Everything can change.....revamp of the whole system is possible.....If the People unite for it....This is their corner stone of power...it's too expensive for Jack and Jane...that is where our focus should be...But it will take a united America all speaking in one voice this is how it's going to be............

Imagine
 Quoting: I Want To Know It All


Everything will change, but still Smith what is your plan to execute your "imagination"!? :)

In other words, exactly how do you expect the people to unite for it!!!???
 Quoting: wirelessguru1


They don't really want it because people like them would no longer exist.

Scrump and people like him have too much invested in this scheme to understand they are the problem, or at least, a big part of the solution. ;)

Most econ-shit-stirrers are afraid of losing their petite fortunes.

Ignore that.
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Everything can change.....revamp of the whole system is possible.....If the People unite for it....This is their corner stone of power...it's too expensive for Jack and Jane...that is where our focus should be...But it will take a united America all speaking in one voice this is how it's going to be............

Imagine
 Quoting: I Want To Know It All


I agree entirely with this.

1) People stop participating in consumer culture and minimize use of credit. Advertising ceases because it doesn't work, this breaks one corner of the mind control triangle. Demand-side stagflation would occur, which would "softly collapse" the economy and almost overnight make the petty bourgeoisie bloated and largely corrupt management class obsolete, good buy wasteful McMillionaires! Eventually the supply-side would adjust to the new level of demand. In all of this, food is a constant the supply and demand for this economy doesn't change, so we all still eat. afro

2) Once people break the mind control hold from advertising, most of the social engineering culture programming gets voided, real writers will have to be called in to write shows that people actually will watch because they are no longer interested in the Sex and the City, Friends, Skins Date my 14 Year Old Pregnant Homosexual HIV Daughter shows. TV will no longer be a source of message and again be a source of entertainment. Political activism can be done again on a local or internet-local level. No or little money required.

So who's going to make this happen? hmm
 Quoting: Least Servant

Good post......It will take a "advertising campaign " to get this message out there...Then a group would have to be formed....One goal remove money from politics

Would you call them the "Whole-Ness" :)

This is not about power and all joking aside is about a better future.......



I,m not your leader..or want to be...I can just see the needs.....Someone about 30ish would have to pick up this ball

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I agree with Scrump. It'll never change. Not, at least, before the whole thing collapses and the survivors once again band together and pick up the pieces. Maybe then...
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It will change, but Nature will force it to change, not humans!!!

Humans are like "viruses" and Smith should already know that... wink

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Good post......It will take a "advertising campaign " to get this message out there...Then a group would have to be formed....One goal remove money from politics

Would you call them the "Whole-Ness" :)

This is not about power and all joking aside is about a better future.......
 Quoting: I Want To Know It All

Sure Smith, but are you going to "pay" for that Ad campaign to carry this mesage!?
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I agree with Scrump. It'll never change. Not, at least, before the whole thing collapses and the survivors once again band together and pick up the pieces. Maybe then...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1113553

It will change, but Nature will force it to change, not humans!!!

Humans are like "viruses" and Smith should already know that... wink

+1 (Neo)
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It can change without violence.....That is why they are pulling so many strings with you today....At the drop of a hat you threaten political violence
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I,m not your leader..or want to be...I can just see the needs.....Someone about 30ish would have to pick up this ball
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I would say that most already know the needs and know that the present "slavery" system sucks, but it is not a question of needs, it is a question of execution!

Like for example, when America was created the founding father had to EXECUTE not just discuss the needs around the kitchen table!!!
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Good post......It will take a "advertising campaign " to get this message out there...Then a group would have to be formed....One goal remove money from politics

Would you call them the "Whole-Ness" :)

This is not about power and all joking aside is about a better future.......
 Quoting: I Want To Know It All

Sure Smith, but are you going to "pay" for that Ad campaign to carry this mesage!?
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Money can be found......Hey I,m throwing out idea's today on what it will take....But sadly I,m too old to pick up a ball like this....But someone like you young full of fire...it could be done.....don't give up
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I don't make predictions or 'set doom dates' here on the board... but I don't foresee anything but darkness in 2011 for the Economy of The United States... and The World.

If December 31 2011 arrives with no hint of dire economic times... if we're still limping along in 'recovery'... I'll gladly stand corrected with a smile.

But I don't see that happening...


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They say this every year, but it does not happen.

For sure the system is dead but they keep him artificialy !

How long can this last ?
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It can change without violence.....That is why they are pulling so many strings with you today....At the drop of a hat you threaten political violence
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Maybe in your dreams and imagination!!!
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Just to put it into perspective .....


If I threw 1 dollar out of the window every second, it would take me 31,546 years to throw a trillion out the window.


Six trillion equals 189,276 years


Nine hundred and ninety nine billion, nine hundred and ninety nine million, nine hundred and ninety nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety nine takes about 8 seconds to pronounce.So by the time you've prounounced it, the debt has changed....
The problem is one million takes no longer to write than a trillion, but it would only take me 11 and a half days to throw a million out the window at one dollar per second, and 31 years to throw a billion out that same window at one dollar per second.

I have a pretty good idea what I'll be doing a million seconds from now,(aged 51) no idea what I'll be doing a billion seconds from now, (I'll be 70)and an excellent idea of what I'll be doing a trillion seconds from now.(pushing up the daisies)

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This is not about power and all joking aside is about a better future.......


 Quoting: I Want To Know It All


I've done ALMOST NOTHING to fuck this world up since I've come to this place in this life and what I've seen around me FOREVER has bothered me.

Through no intention of my own I have an odd set of abilities that I have almost no desire or will to use to gain personal advantage.

As close as I am to politely asking the rest of the world to FUCK OFF with YOUR problems that people like me have been stuffed into without so much as note about how we shouldn't expect MUCH, I'm willing to stick around a bit longer to see if we can have what's our potential as a group.


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Money can be found......Hey I,m throwing out idea's today on what it will take....But sadly I,m too old to pick up a ball like this....But someone like you young full of fire...it could be done.....don't give up
 Quoting: I Want To Know It All


Look, I don't give up because I know that Nature will be changing things and not because I want to "save" today's greedy, corrupt and decadent civilization...

In terms of "money can be found", sure the damn bankers can always make trillions more out of nothing, but I am almost certain that they are not going to finance your Ad campaign!!! rolleyes
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They say this every year, but it does not happen.

For sure the system is dead but they keep him artificialy !

How long can this last ?
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IMHO it can last until Nature takes over...
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It can change without violence.....That is why they are pulling so many strings with you today....At the drop of a hat you threaten political violence
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Maybe in your dreams and imagination!!!
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Hey Guru your alright ......at least were throwing idea's that can help....But your right at some point it's action time.......rock on Neo
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How long can this last ?
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Until the pastry bag is too empty to get any more filling out of...
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some more thoughts here

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One trillion is more than the total of satrs in the milky way!!
A trillion seconds ago, civilization didn’t exist. A billion minutes ago, Trajan was emperor in Rome. A million hours ago, it was 1895, and Grover Cleveland was President of the United States.How big is 14 trillion dollars? 14 trillion $1 bills, laid end to end, side to side, would pave every interstate, highway, and country road in America—twice.

Coming soon to America and Europe, Zimbawian style inflation!
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For the conversation... Good work!
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Even though we're still a couple of months away from Spring now is a good time to be thinking about next winter. Things will most certianly be worse by then.
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well well well
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For sure the system is dead but they keep him artificialy !

How long can this last ?
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In my opinion, 2008 was a 'test run'... and since then we've seen them frantically prop-up the system (while drawing those who lost 40% in '08 back into the market(s))... by doing everything in their power to delay foreclosing on the millions of delinquent mortgages out there... by monetizing the debt... propping up the Dow... so many other ways.

It'll last until the World is in the shape the money men want it in... then they'll pull the plug.

All they have to do is to stop the propping-up & let the system roll at this point... they've set-up something much like a dead-man's switch.

The 600 trillion dollar derivatives market is a good example of that.

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Even though we're still a couple of months away from Spring now is a good time to be thinking about next winter. Things will most certianly be worse by then.
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well well well
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Exactly. Everyone better be taking the signs of the times seriously.
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When the dollar finally dumps (I'm thinking March) what will happen to Gold? Can anyone who understands these things please help me with this?
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When the dollar finally dumps (I'm thinking March) what will happen to Gold? Can anyone who understands these things please help me with this?
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Executive Order 6102 V2.0 hiding

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When the dollar finally dumps (I'm thinking March) what will happen to Gold? Can anyone who understands these things please help me with this?
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I wonder why there is a huge demand for gold right now. It's in TV adverts, newspapers and magazines. You know, bring in your unwanted gold and they pay for it. Where does it all go?
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Clinton, Bush, Obama.

DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS

If you think voting the official Republican candidate is going to change anything, you are as stupid as an Obamabot who thought things were going to change with their 2008 vote.

Watch closely, find who is NOT owned by either party [even if some may self identify as R or D], and vote for them instead.

DO NOT LET A NEWS CHANNEL TELL YOU WHO TO VOTE FOR