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Scrump's Newsletter 1/2011 *Total Economic Collapse: Catastrophe 2011*

 
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1) ET will come and save us.
2) Jesus will save us be patient
3) NWO will save us
4) Obama will save us....on and on and on.

I IMHO submit that we the caretakers of this world can save ourselfs.

We must pull our feet out of the guilt and religious mud and stop in-fighting and simply go to work for the common good of humanity.

It's just a management job after all
 Quoting: I Want To Know It All


The accepted university anthropology of the origins of complex societies speaks volumes against the concept that we can have a truly equal society when there is any degree of specialization beyond medicine man.

Humanity will always require good leadership and management... these are the conditions under which groups always function best, there are no exceptions to this rule.

Those who are looking for salvation from another source are automatically on the "fail list", they don't have the psychological make up to sustain a world with their will, just to be used to fulfill someone else's fantasy of power.

I haven't met too many people who have the chops to run the world and the one's that do usually have a frightening aspect.

What are we so afraid of? :)
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Will some states be worse off than others?
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States with a ton of debt & a lot of crime already will be worse off..... I wouldn't want to be in California when this goes down.
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Look civilization will not be saved. It will fail yet again like all prior civilizations did...

Rather simple actually.
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Look civilization will not be saved. It will fail yet again like all prior civilizations did...

Rather simple actually.
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+1

Gonna burn like Rome.
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Look civilization will not be saved. It will fail yet again like all prior civilizations did...

Rather simple actually.
 Quoting: wirelessguru1

We still carry the genes of our ancestors in us. We still survive and carry on like our ancestors, so maybe the precise exoteric form is no longer visible, the intrinsic nature carries on. It hasn't failed, it just isn't what you define as a success.
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I would love to live long enough to see the fucking Bull on Wall Street outside of the stock exchange melt from a thermonuclear blast.......
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Look civilization will not be saved. It will fail yet again like all prior civilizations did...

Rather simple actually.
 Quoting: wirelessguru1

We still carry the genes of our ancestors in us. We still survive and carry on like our ancestors, so maybe the precise exoteric form is no longer visible, the intrinsic nature carries on. It hasn't failed, it just isn't what you define as a success.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 860229


Look, the civilizations themselves failed.

..and the evidence is also rather clear that only small groups survived even though all prior civilizations failed or were destroyed...

IMHO wishful and/or positive thinking will not save the present civilization. It will fail like all others did.
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I would love to live long enough to see the fucking Bull on Wall Street outside of the stock exchange melt from a thermonuclear blast.......
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abomb

I just wish the bastards would get on with it..... stop the prop-up bullshit scrump was talking about do what they're going to DO.
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Man, do you have some baggage!
Freshman in college?
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Sorry you are going to have to try again to get me to open up intellectually to you. afro

Perhaps you would be interested in some classes?

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You are correct the “green” movement is just another face of the cap and trade agenda obama is trying to foist upon us. Ultimately, this movement according to obama will necessitate fuel costs to skyrocket meaning we will need to decide whether to spend our carbon credits to fuel our cars to get to work or warm our homes.

Green Jobs
The effect of Cap & Trade, according to President Obama, would be that "the price of electricity will necessarily skyrocket," largely by imposing huge costs on utilities, like coal-powered plants, which would be passed onto consumers. The Heritage Foundation estimated Pennsylvania, a state that gets nearly 50 percent of its energy from coal, will lose 46,762 jobs between 2012 and 2035 if Cap and Trade is passed.
[link to energyfactspa.com]

The Green Agenda
The developmental and environmental objectives of Agenda 21 will require a substantial flow of new and additional financial resources to developing countries, in order to cover the incremental costs for the actions they have to undertake to deal with global environmental problems and to accelerate sustainable development. Financial resources are also required for strengthening the capacity of international institutions for the implementation of Agenda 21.
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 Quoting: SilverPatriot


It's a web... so tangled as to be almost indiscernible.

But again & again you find the same names... some that have made 'green' a religion...

Obama, Maurice Strong, Al Gore key players cashing in on Chicago Climate Exchange
March 30, 2009 — Stefan Fobes

Obama’s involvement in Chicago Climate Exchange–the rest of the story...

[link to warofillusions.wordpress.com]

[link to canadafreepress.com]

A search into the history, philosophy & beliefs of this man: [link to mauricestrong.biz] will give insight into the kind of psychopaths that rule the World today...
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


Between our economic woes then consider “Climate Change” derived from “Global Warming” which failed with Climategate and obama is still trying to foist Cap and Trade upon us although piecemeal now. Gun Control attempts, Net Neutrality a.k.a. the Internet fairness Doctrine, Net 'Fairness Doctrine and let us not forget Agenda 21 and all its hidden nastiness all stem from the UN (United Nation) and simply stated does not have our best interests at heart.
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Look civilization will not be saved. It will fail yet again like all prior civilizations did...

Rather simple actually.
 Quoting: wirelessguru1

We still carry the genes of our ancestors in us. We still survive and carry on like our ancestors, so maybe the precise exoteric form is no longer visible, the intrinsic nature carries on. It hasn't failed, it just isn't what you define as a success.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 860229


Look, the civilizations themselves failed.

..and the evidence is also rather clear that only small groups survived even though all prior civilizations failed or were destroyed...

IMHO wishful and/or positive thinking will not save the present civilization. It will fail like all others did.
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The few that would survive a global conflict between the haves and the have-nots will leave Mad Max world for their children...Are you so sure it can't be saved you won't try, just fuck it....blow it all up fuck the kids
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The few that would survive a global conflict between the haves and the have-nots will leave Mad Max world for their children...Are you so sure it can't be saved you won't try, just fuck it....blow it all up fuck the kids
 Quoting: I Want To Know It All


So OBVIOUSLY the best course of action is to go on the internet and rage against the very people who are actively working against this possibility. (/sarcasm)

Easier to vilify the do'ers? Of course.

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Look civilization will not be saved. It will fail yet again like all prior civilizations did...

Rather simple actually.
 Quoting: wirelessguru1

We still carry the genes of our ancestors in us. We still survive and carry on like our ancestors, so maybe the precise exoteric form is no longer visible, the intrinsic nature carries on. It hasn't failed, it just isn't what you define as a success.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 860229


Look, the civilizations themselves failed.

..and the evidence is also rather clear that only small groups survived even though all prior civilizations failed or were destroyed...

IMHO wishful and/or positive thinking will not save the present civilization. It will fail like all others did.
 Quoting: wirelessguru1

Yes, America, as we know it, will not survive intact.
But, you are saying all civilization will disintegrate.

Don't worry about that happening. We are here for a reason. It is just a hunch..
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The few that would survive a global conflict between the haves and the have-nots will leave Mad Max world for their children...Are you so sure it can't be saved you won't try, just fuck it....blow it all up fuck the kids
 Quoting: I Want To Know It All

Sorry Smith but your matrix is going to be reset once again...by the machines...

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The few that would survive a global conflict between the haves and the have-nots will leave Mad Max world for their children...Are you so sure it can't be saved you won't try, just fuck it....blow it all up fuck the kids
 Quoting: I Want To Know It All


So OBVIOUSLY the best course of action is to go on the internet and rage against the very people who are actively working against this possibility.

Easier to vilify the do'ers? Of course.

ocaesar
 Quoting: Least Servant

I really do get your point....And I,m on your side. But how can you rally troops to make change if they all want Mad Max World...It will take 20 years to change this system and work and blood and lots of national heartache.

But I,m sick of the fuck it it's gonna fail stock up on food..

By myself I,m nothing like a flea...

But if 100,000 could be rallied it could start a movement.
Thats what GLP could become the start of a movement
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Yes, America, as we know it, will not survive intact.
But, you are saying all civilization will disintegrate.

Don't worry about that happening. We are here for a reason. It is just a hunch..
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Yes, I am indeed saying that the present ruling civilization will fail like all prior civilizations did and I am most definitely NOT worried at all about it...

The ones meant to survive will survive...
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Look at how many Countries have been set-up to fall at the drop of a hat over the last 2 years... any one of a hundred hair-triggers could set the whole thing off at any time... when it goes this time, it won't be like '08.

If we'd have had 2008 with a World in 2011 shape... there would've been no stopping it... like there won't be any stopping the next one.

That's where we're at.
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Yaun? Or Dollar?

That choice may just mean the difference as to which countries exist in 2012.
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Look civilization will not be saved. It will fail yet again like all prior civilizations did...

Rather simple actually.
 Quoting: wirelessguru1

We still carry the genes of our ancestors in us. We still survive and carry on like our ancestors, so maybe the precise exoteric form is no longer visible, the intrinsic nature carries on. It hasn't failed, it just isn't what you define as a success.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 860229


Look, the civilizations themselves failed.

..and the evidence is also rather clear that only small groups survived even though all prior civilizations failed or were destroyed...

IMHO wishful and/or positive thinking will not save the present civilization. It will fail like all others did.
 Quoting: wirelessguru1

The few that would survive a global conflict between the haves and the have-nots will leave Mad Max world for their children...Are you so sure it can't be saved you won't try, just fuck it....blow it all up fuck the kids
 Quoting: I Want To Know It All


Of course you're going to try....... but this scenario is balls-out bumfucked disasterland. At some point before it happns you've got to get ready for it.
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I would love to live long enough to see the fucking Bull on Wall Street outside of the stock exchange melt from a thermonuclear blast.......
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abomb

I just wish the bastards would get on with it..... stop the prop-up bullshit scrump was talking about do what they're going to DO.
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This. I know too much about this mess we're in, that day to day life is rather painful and pointless as of late. Being about to graduate from 4 years of attempted brainwashing and the market for my field is shit (obviously).

Also I get a headache talking with all the sheeple who stare at me with glazed eyes and a "huh? But MSNBC blah blah BS blah blah" or "whatever FOX blah HATRED blah blah"...which is the reason why I'm on here so flippin much.

Also have been reading tons of books about societies like the USSR, Germany, also Bosnia, just to perhaps get a mental idea of what we're running into with our train wreck of society. I'll figure out where I stand as we go along, but I think I've already accepted that I will die with my dignity rather than bow down to anything or anybody that doesn't deserve it....
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I really do get your point....And I,m on your side. But how can you rally troops to make change if they all want Mad Max World...It will take 20 years to change this system and work and blood and lots of national heartache.

But I,m sick of the fuck it it's gonna fail stock up on food..

By myself I,m nothing like a flea...

But if 100,000 could be rallied it could start a movement.
Thats what GLP could become the start of a movement
 Quoting: I Want To Know It All


So Smith, you're sick and tired of the ones that are trying to survive!?

..and 20 years!?

Come on Smith, we have less than 2 years now before the end of the present age/era is upon Earth!!!

Finally exactly what is it that you wish your group of 100,000 to do!? Are you talking about that Ad Campaign!!!???
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I think 2011's gonna be a roller-coaster ride to hell economically (not to mince words)... by the time we get to December, there'll be no doubt in anyone's mind that we're in the middle of a significant financial disaster.

But that's just my opinion based on available current data... I sincerely hope that I'm wrong.
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I hope you're wrong too, Scrump ... but I think the toxins in our environment will present an equal or worse disaster than even the economic problems that are looming.

Birds are dying ... frogs are dying ... sea life is dying ... good grief, even our ocean currants are messed up.

What will our human lives be like when there are no birds or frogs to eat the insects? Guess what, folks ... they will be chewing on us. Sound fun?

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I really do get your point....And I,m on your side. But how can you rally troops to make change if they all want Mad Max World...It will take 20 years to change this system and work and blood and lots of national heartache.

But I,m sick of the fuck it it's gonna fail stock up on food..

By myself I,m nothing like a flea...

But if 100,000 could be rallied it could start a movement.
Thats what GLP could become the start of a movement
 Quoting: I Want To Know It All


So Smith, you're sick and tired of the ones that are trying to survive!?

..and 20 years!?

Come on Smith, we have less than 2 years now before the end of the present age/era is upon Earth!!!

Finally exactly what is it that you wish your group of 100,000 to do!? Are you talking about that Ad Campaign!!!???
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Your a 2012er.....I want to see the look on your face in feb of 2013 when you have to go to work for someone like me................I plan for 2013....good luck with your 2012
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Birds are dying ... frogs are dying ... sea life is dying ... good grief, even our ocean currants are messed up.
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Well, all of this is happening because global Earth and climate changes continue to accelerate since the end of the present age/era macro cycle is almost upon all of us... idea
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Your a 2012er.....I want to see the look on your face in feb of 2013 when you have to go to work for someone like me................I plan for 2013....good luck with your 2012
 Quoting: I Want To Know It All

Don't worry Smith, you'll just need about 2 more years to see the look on my face...

..and believe me, I would never, ever work for the likes of you even if Hell froze over...

But good luck to you also... :)

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Look at how many Countries have been set-up to fall at the drop of a hat over the last 2 years... any one of a hundred hair-triggers could set the whole thing off at any time... when it goes this time, it won't be like '08.

If we'd have had 2008 with a World in 2011 shape... there would've been no stopping it... like there won't be any stopping the next one.

That's where we're at.
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan

Yaun? Or Dollar?

That choice may just mean the difference as to which countries exist in 2012.
 Quoting: Khim


The Yuan is on it's way up... the Chinese are maneuvering to replace us as the World's reserve currency... they see us destroying ours in concert with the wishes of the banksters with the goal of a single currency... and they don't wanna play that game.

The World (soooo many Countries now) is really hanging by a string... the debt loads & phony money out there are many times World GDP & everyone's post 'bailout' & worse-off than ever.

If we had a 'crisis' of even 2008 proportions at this point it would blow the economies & financial systems of the World into smithereens overnight... but I think this next one's gonna be much worse than '08 at the outset... the consequences are uncharted territory.
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The few that would survive a global conflict between the haves and the have-nots will leave Mad Max world for their children...Are you so sure it can't be saved you won't try, just fuck it....blow it all up fuck the kids
 Quoting: I Want To Know It All


So OBVIOUSLY the best course of action is to go on the internet and rage against the very people who are actively working against this possibility. (/sarcasm)

Easier to vilify the do'ers? Of course.

:ocaesar:
 Quoting: Least Servant

Excuse me? Are you claiming BeHO is one of those "doers"?

If by "do" you mean "fuck" (as in anal rape) then ok.

Otherwise...and I really hate to say this...you're the biggest dumbass on this forum.
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Look at how many Countries have been set-up to fall at the drop of a hat over the last 2 years... any one of a hundred hair-triggers could set the whole thing off at any time... when it goes this time, it won't be like '08.

If we'd have had 2008 with a World in 2011 shape... there would've been no stopping it... like there won't be any stopping the next one.

That's where we're at.
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan

Yaun? Or Dollar?

That choice may just mean the difference as to which countries exist in 2012.
 Quoting: Khim


Although I see your rationale in my opinion it might be too simplistic as I see after a certain point all will fall like a set of dominos and the answer will be in who can pick themselves off quickest after a fall and provided we are not trying to keep each other down.
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Look at how many Countries have been set-up to fall at the drop of a hat over the last 2 years... any one of a hundred hair-triggers could set the whole thing off at any time... when it goes this time, it won't be like '08.

If we'd have had 2008 with a World in 2011 shape... there would've been no stopping it... like there won't be any stopping the next one.

That's where we're at.
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan

Yaun? Or Dollar?

That choice may just mean the difference as to which countries exist in 2012.
 Quoting: Khim


The Yuan is on it's way up... the Chinese are maneuvering to replace us as the World's reserve currency... they see us destroying ours in concert with the wishes of the banksters with the goal of a single currency... and they don't wanna play that game.

The World (soooo many Countries now) is really hanging by a string... the debt loads & phony money out there are many times World GDP & everyone's post 'bailout' & worse-off than ever.

If we had a 'crisis' of even 2008 proportions at this point it would blow the economies & financial systems of the World into smithereens overnight... but I think this next one's gonna be much worse than '08 at the outset... the consequences are uncharted territory.
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan

Scrump...sorry for ranting a little on your thread....I have been trying to get these very average American GLPer's to see the folly of Their mindset....

Blow it all up dude start over.

They did the job.....Now I,m depressed....Peace to you and your house
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I would love to live long enough to see the fucking Bull on Wall Street outside of the stock exchange melt from a thermonuclear blast.......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1239339


abomb

I just wish the bastards would get on with it..... stop the prop-up bullshit scrump was talking about do what they're going to DO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1239077


This. I know too much about this mess we're in, that day to day life is rather painful and pointless as of late. Being about to graduate from 4 years of attempted brainwashing and the market for my field is shit (obviously).

Also I get a headache talking with all the sheeple who stare at me with glazed eyes and a "huh? But MSNBC blah blah BS blah blah" or "whatever FOX blah HATRED blah blah"...which is the reason why I'm on here so flippin much.

Also have been reading tons of books about societies like the USSR, Germany, also Bosnia, just to perhaps get a mental idea of what we're running into with our train wreck of society. I'll figure out where I stand as we go along, but I think I've already accepted that I will die with my dignity rather than bow down to anything or anybody that doesn't deserve it....
 Quoting: RogueA007


Hell yeah the glazed eyes..... I know them well & am sick of seeing them. Some people deserve whats coming. They intentionally ignore the fucking sirens & flashing lights going off all around them & watch American Idol.
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Re: Scrump's Newsletter 1/2011 *Total Economic Collapse: Catastrophe 2011*
Scrump...sorry for ranting a little on your thread....I have been trying to get these very average American GLPer's to see the folly of Their mindset....

Blow it all up dude start over.

They did the job.....Now I,m depressed....Peace to you and your house
 Quoting: I Want To Know It All


Rant away man!

It's quite a bit to absorb once you really start to fathom the magnitude of the various problems we're facing.


cheers

Last Edited by ScrumpTheTexan on 01/22/2011 09:27 PM
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