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Small earthbound CME.

 
OTOC  (OP)

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Re: Small earthbound CME.
Thanks, I always capture videos daily anyway. I'm not pushing the YT channel, could care less about that, I just use it for hosting the vids for another forum. I was a little torn on that, if it was pure flare or if there was heavier mass to it, which I think it does. You're expertise is certainly appreciated by many as well as by me. Do you post on another forum solar events? Best wishes and thanks again.

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I don't use other forums.

And please change expertise for experience ;)

I don't consider myself to be an expert on this subject as is easily visible on my solar storms guide thread "I'm no expert, Remember this and as such you must consider this to be my opinion. "

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Thanks OTOC. Been watching this.

Nice to have you post early!

Am wondering if I can ask you a question unrelated? On the Magnetosphere simulation site there is also a simulation of the ionospheric convection. Can you tell me what the black circlular line/lines are representing? Not that I don't have some understanding, just hear alot of stuff from others and want to hear it from someone who knows.
[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

Thanks in advance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1167411


I believe that it is potential electric conductivity.

But not certain, nict don't really explain it in detail anywhere. [link to www2.nict.go.jp]

So I had to work from that and literally just saw it as potential electric currents.

It's not a chart I really bother with though so never looked into it much, I watch the auroral activity over here: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

It gives the same results except that auroral activity is based on satellite fly-overs instead of computer generated predictions based on raw data from ace.
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Thanks, I've been looking at this for a very long time but could never find a real explanation anywhere when I searched. I don't feel so stupid now. I knew I could count on you for honesty. I think your thought on it being the Electric Potential is correct as the current nict.go simulation matches that of the electric potential map at: [link to www2.nict.go.jp]

I have heard the most odd expanations like "that's the hole in the magnetosphere and downhill from there.

Anyhow, thanks alot and also for the link you use. Saved to my favorites.

Thanks for being the rock of science in this crazy world!

Speaking of the Ionosphere, do you have any thoughts on issues we may be experiencing with that at this time? I keep waking between 3 and 4 am because the night sky becomes so bright....it's hard to explain but the light difference at that hour until dawn seems unusual. The night sky seems like a cobalt blue vs. the black/blue. We have snow on the ground and the snow actually appears to be blue during this hour and sometimes up until dawn. It's enough to wake me up so was wondering if our Ionosphere was the cause of this phenomena. I live in the northeast.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1167411


Sounds like an effect from noctilucent clouds.

"that's the hole in the magnetosphere" That's damn funny, I'd like to again point out that nict is a simulation, based on certain base parameters.

THose base parameters don't include holes in the magnetosphere.
 Quoting: OTOC

Thanks OTOC. I appreciate it. I looked this up and think you are spot on.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Noctilucent clouds are composed of tiny crystals of water ice up to 100 nanometers in diameter[1] and exist at a height of about 76 to 85 kilometers (47 to 53 mi),[2] higher than any other clouds in Earth's atmosphere.[3] Clouds in the Earth's lower atmosphere form when water collects on particles, but mesospheric clouds may form directly from water vapour[4] in addition to forming on dust particles.[5] The sources of both the dust and the water vapour in the upper atmosphere are not known with certainty. The dust is believed to come from micrometeors, although volcanoes and dust from the troposphere are also possibilities. The moisture could be lifted through gaps in the tropopause, as well as forming from the reaction of methane with hydroxyl radicals in the stratosphere.

It seemed odd, because it looked like a perfectly clear night. I did not see any clouds but from the Wiki explanation, the phenomena may not can be too faint to be seen unless they are illuminated by sunlight from below the horizon. There were barely any stars in the sky and those that were seemed very faded, so this makes sense.

also per wiki:
Noctilucent clouds can form only under very restrictive conditions; their occurrence can be used as a sensitive guide to changes in the upper atmosphere. Since their relatively recent classification, the occurrence of noctilucent clouds appears to be increasing in frequency, brightness and extent. It is theorized that this increase is connected to climate change.

Also there has been some reports of orange/red and also green evening/nights skys here on GLP. Noctilucent clouds can be seen in red and green also. My Husband actually said he saw red sky/clouds just prior to sunrise on Friday morning.

Thanks so much! And by the way...glad I could make you laugh with the hole in the magnetosphere remark. I swear I have heard people make remarks to that effect at least 10 times on this forum.
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