New planet or just a notch on the Kuiper Belt?

What astronomers like Brown are ignoring is the distinction between a planet that formed in the same way that the planets up to Pluto did and Kuiper Belt Objects, which are merely debris from the Kuiper Belt that has over time been dragged into orbits around the Sun. These far-off objects are NOT true planets, even though they orbit the Sun, for the simple reason that they did not form in the primordial Solar System from the aggregation of planetisimals. They are just the outermost chunks of material that were left over from planet formation - the debris, NOT planets. This is why the object recently discovered by Mike Brown has a large inclination to the ecliptic of 45 degrees. If it had been a REAL planet formed by aggregation of planetisimals from a proto-planetary disc, it would exhibit the same small inclination to the ecliptic that the other true planets do because they condensed out of a disc. Mercury and Pluto have larger inclinations than the other planets and they are about the same value. In the past, Brown has argued that Pluto should not be considered a planet because its inclination and eccentricity are much larger than those of other planets. Yet he has now found an object with much larger inclination (45 degrees compared with 17 degrees for Pluto) and yet wants us to accept it as a planet merely because it is larger than Pluto! He cannot have it both ways. The truth of the matter is that large inclination per se is not necessarily evidence that an object is NOT a planet - Mercury being an example of a planet with a relatively large inclination. Pluto could have acquired its large inclination and orbital eccentricity through collision in the past with Trans-Neptunian Objects.

Astronomers love the kudos of everyone thinking that they have discovered new planets, whereas in fact all they have spotted are Kuiper Belt Object remnants of the primordial matter that made up the proto-planetary disc before it condensed into genuine planets. Just because a far-out object happens to be bigger than Pluto does not mean, as Brown thinks, that it ever had to be a true planet, that is, formed in the same way as the other planets! He is so keen to get recognised as the discoverer of a planet that he is ignoring an important fact here. That´s why the International Astronomical Union has resisted pressure from people like Brown to get Kuiper Belt Objects as large as Pluto recognised as planets. They are NOT true planets, just large objects in the debris field left over from the formation of the REAL planets. So don´t be deceived by all this silly hype. It is not being accepted by many other astronomers, amongst whome there considerable debate as to what constitutes a true planet. As far as I am concerned, it is one that was FORMED in the primordial proto-planetary disc; it is not merely a chunk of rock left over as debris from this process.

What astronomers like Brown are ignoring is the distinction between a planet that formed in the same way that the planets up to Pluto did and Kuiper Belt Objects, which are merely debris from the Kuiper Belt that has over time been dragged into orbits around the Sun. These far-off objects are NOT true planets, even though they orbit the Sun, for the simple reason that they did not form in the primordial Solar System from the aggregation of planetisimals. They are just the outermost chunks of material that were left over from planet formation - the debris, NOT planets. This is why the object recently discovered by Mike Brown has a large inclination to the ecliptic of 45 degrees. If it had been a REAL planet formed by aggregation of planetisimals from a proto-planetary disc, it would exhibit the same small inclination to the ecliptic that the other true planets do because they condensed out of a disc. Mercury and Pluto have larger inclinations than the other planets and they are about the same value. In the past, Brown has argued that Pluto should not be considered a planet because its inclination and eccentricity are much larger than those of other planets. Yet he has now found an object with much larger inclination (45 degrees compared with 17 degrees for Pluto) and yet wants us to accept it as a planet merely because it is larger than Pluto! He cannot have it both ways. The truth of the matter is that large inclination per se is not necessarily evidence that an object is NOT a planet - Mercury being an example of a planet with a relatively large inclination. Pluto could have acquired its large inclination and orbital eccentricity through collision in the past with Trans-Neptunian Objects.

Astronomers love the kudos of everyone thinking that they have discovered new planets, whereas in fact all they have spotted are Kuiper Belt Object remnants of the primordial matter that made up the proto-planetary disc before it condensed into genuine planets. Just because a far-out object happens to be bigger than Pluto does not mean, as Brown thinks, that it ever had to be a true planet, that is, formed in the same way as the other planets! He is so keen to get recognised as the discoverer of a planet that he is ignoring an important fact here. That´s why the International Astronomical Union has resisted pressure from people like Brown to get Kuiper Belt Objects as large as Pluto recognised as planets. They are NOT true planets, just large objects in the debris field left over from the formation of the REAL planets. So don´t be deceived by all this silly hype. It is not being accepted by many other astronomers, amongst whome there considerable debate as to what constitutes a true planet. As far as I am concerned, it is one that was FORMED in the primordial proto-planetary disc; it is not merely a chunk of rock left over as debris from this process.


A lot of those "planetoids" are actually "Interstellar Space Stations", piloted by the "Advanced ET Beings" (**ADVANCED ETHERIC BEINGS**), that are similar to "Angelic Entities":

[link to www.hyperspacecafe.com]

These are the "Angelic Heralds" from different "Parallel Dimensions" and other galaxies as well as this galaxy, who are in this Solar System to change the "Collective Consciousness" on Planet Earth.

Nibiru approaching.

American scientists have discovered what they are excitedly claiming — but others dispute — should be recognised as the 10th planet in orbit around our Sun.

But its discovery as the farthest known object in our solar system is threatening to further jeopardise little Pluto´s credibility as a planet at all.

Half as big again as Pluto and twice as far away, the new body — designated 2003 UB313 — is almost 15 billion kilometres from the Sun, which it orbits every 560 years at a 45-degree angle.

It is the largest object so far found in the so-called Kuiper Belt, a collection of space material orbiting the Sun beyond Neptune, the eighth and furthest planet from the Sun that is not in dispute.

Dutch-American astronomer Gerard Kuiper predicted in 1951 that there would be discovered a ring of debris beyond Neptune, and it began to be seen from 1992. The previous largest object was nearly as big as Pluto.

The new object was first spotted on October 31, 2001, by a group of NASA-financed researchers using the Samuel Oschin Telescope at the Palomar Observatory, near San Diego. But it was so far away that its motion was not detected until the scientists re-analysed the data in January this year.
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Its discoverers are California Institute of Technology astronomer Michael Brown and colleagues Chad Trujillo, of the Gemini Observatory, in Hawaii, and David Rabinowitz, of Yale University.

Like Pluto, the object´s surface is believed to be predominantly methane, but its size — about 2700 kilometres in diameter — qualifies it as a planet, Mr Brown said. Earth is about 12,700 kilometres in diameter.

They have submitted a name — not released yet — for the planet to the International Astronomical Union.

"We hope that it´s fairly non-controversial among those who believe Pluto is a planet," Mr Brown said. "I would say, get out your pens and start rewriting the textbooks today."

But his confidence may be premature, because the announcement sparked off another round of a long-running astronomical controversy about the definition of planets.

Depending on how this unravels, the number of solar system bodies accepted as planets could shrink to eight, excluding Pluto — or expand to 23 or 24 or more.

One of Australia´s leading astronomers was interested but underwhelmed by the news yesterday, and keen to reawaken debate on a planet´s definition.

"In a sense, this is not unexpected news at all," said the astronomer-in-chief of the Anglo-Australian Observatory at Siding Spring, Professor Fred Watson.

"Certainly, I would not headline this as the 10th planet. I would consider it as perhaps the largest of the known Kuiper Belt objects"

[link to www.theage.com.au]
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American scientists have discovered what they are excitedly claiming — but others dispute — should be recognised as the 10th planet in orbit around our Sun.

But its discovery as the farthest known object in our solar system is threatening to further jeopardise little Pluto´s credibility as a planet at all.

Half as big again as Pluto and twice as far away, the new body — designated 2003 UB313 — is almost 15 billion kilometres from the Sun, which it orbits every 560 years at a 45-degree angle.

It is the largest object so far found in the so-called Kuiper Belt, a collection of space material orbiting the Sun beyond Neptune, the eighth and furthest planet from the Sun that is not in dispute.

Dutch-American astronomer Gerard Kuiper predicted in 1951 that there would be discovered a ring of debris beyond Neptune, and it began to be seen from 1992. The previous largest object was nearly as big as Pluto.

The new object was first spotted on October 31, 2001, by a group of NASA-financed researchers using the Samuel Oschin Telescope at the Palomar Observatory, near San Diego. But it was so far away that its motion was not detected until the scientists re-analysed the data in January this year.
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Its discoverers are California Institute of Technology astronomer Michael Brown and colleagues Chad Trujillo, of the Gemini Observatory, in Hawaii, and David Rabinowitz, of Yale University.

Like Pluto, the object´s surface is believed to be predominantly methane, but its size — about 2700 kilometres in diameter — qualifies it as a planet, Mr Brown said. Earth is about 12,700 kilometres in diameter.

They have submitted a name — not released yet — for the planet to the International Astronomical Union.

"We hope that it´s fairly non-controversial among those who believe Pluto is a planet," Mr Brown said. "I would say, get out your pens and start rewriting the textbooks today."

But his confidence may be premature, because the announcement sparked off another round of a long-running astronomical controversy about the definition of planets.

Depending on how this unravels, the number of solar system bodies accepted as planets could shrink to eight, excluding Pluto — or expand to 23 or 24 or more.

One of Australia´s leading astronomers was interested but underwhelmed by the news yesterday, and keen to reawaken debate on a planet´s definition.

"In a sense, this is not unexpected news at all," said the astronomer-in-chief of the Anglo-Australian Observatory at Siding Spring, Professor Fred Watson.

"Certainly, I would not headline this as the 10th planet. I would consider it as perhaps the largest of the known Kuiper Belt objects"

[link to www.theage.com.au]
new-planet-or-just-a-notch-on-the-kuiper-belt/
2005/07/30/1122144059150.html?oneclick=true

What astronomers like Brown are ignoring is the distinction between a planet that formed in the same way that the planets up to Pluto did and Kuiper Belt Objects, which are merely debris from the Kuiper Belt that has over time been dragged into orbits around the Sun. These far-off objects are NOT true planets, even though they orbit the Sun, for the simple reason that they did not form in the primordial Solar System from the aggregation of planetisimals. They are just the outermost chunks of material that were left over from planet formation - the debris, NOT planets. This is why the object recently discovered by Mike Brown has a large inclination to the ecliptic of 45 degrees. If it had been a REAL planet formed by aggregation of planetisimals from a proto-planetary disc, it would exhibit the same small inclination to the ecliptic that the other true planets do because they condensed out of a disc. Mercury and Pluto have larger inclinations than the other planets and they are about the same value. In the past, Brown has argued that Pluto should not be considered a planet because its inclination and eccentricity are much larger than those of other planets. Yet he has now found an object with much larger inclination (45 degrees compared with 17 degrees for Pluto) and yet wants us to accept it as a planet merely because it is larger than Pluto! He cannot have it both ways. The truth of the matter is that large inclination per se is not necessarily evidence that an object is NOT a planet - Mercury being an example of a planet with a relatively large inclination. Pluto could have acquired its large inclination and orbital eccentricity through collision in the past with Trans-Neptunian Objects.

Astronomers love the kudos of everyone thinking that they have discovered new planets, whereas in fact all they have spotted are Kuiper Belt Object remnants of the primordial matter that made up the proto-planetary disc before it condensed into genuine planets. Just because a far-out object happens to be bigger than Pluto does not mean, as Brown thinks, that it ever had to be a true planet, that is, formed in the same way as the other planets! He is so keen to get recognised as the discoverer of a planet that he is ignoring an important fact here. That´s why the International Astronomical Union has resisted pressure from people like Brown to get Kuiper Belt Objects as large as Pluto recognised as planets. They are NOT true planets, just large objects in the debris field left over from the formation of the REAL planets. So don´t be deceived by all this silly hype. It is not being accepted by many other astronomers, amongst whome there considerable debate as to what constitutes a true planet. As far as I am concerned, it is one that was FORMED in the primordial proto-planetary disc; it is not merely a chunk of rock left over as debris from this process.

American scientists have discovered what they are excitedly claiming — but others dispute — should be recognised as the 10th planet in orbit around our Sun.

But its discovery as the farthest known object in our solar system is threatening to further jeopardise little Pluto´s credibility as a planet at all.

Half as big again as Pluto and twice as far away, the new body — designated 2003 UB313 — is almost 15 billion kilometres from the Sun, which it orbits every 560 years at a 45-degree angle.

It is the largest object so far found in the so-called Kuiper Belt, a collection of space material orbiting the Sun beyond Neptune, the eighth and furthest planet from the Sun that is not in dispute.

Dutch-American astronomer Gerard Kuiper predicted in 1951 that there would be discovered a ring of debris beyond Neptune, and it began to be seen from 1992. The previous largest object was nearly as big as Pluto.

The new object was first spotted on October 31, 2001, by a group of NASA-financed researchers using the Samuel Oschin Telescope at the Palomar Observatory, near San Diego. But it was so far away that its motion was not detected until the scientists re-analysed the data in January this year.
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Its discoverers are California Institute of Technology astronomer Michael Brown and colleagues Chad Trujillo, of the Gemini Observatory, in Hawaii, and David Rabinowitz, of Yale University.

Like Pluto, the object´s surface is believed to be predominantly methane, but its size — about 2700 kilometres in diameter — qualifies it as a planet, Mr Brown said. Earth is about 12,700 kilometres in diameter.

They have submitted a name — not released yet — for the planet to the International Astronomical Union.

"We hope that it´s fairly non-controversial among those who believe Pluto is a planet," Mr Brown said. "I would say, get out your pens and start rewriting the textbooks today."

But his confidence may be premature, because the announcement sparked off another round of a long-running astronomical controversy about the definition of planets.

Depending on how this unravels, the number of solar system bodies accepted as planets could shrink to eight, excluding Pluto — or expand to 23 or 24 or more.

One of Australia´s leading astronomers was interested but underwhelmed by the news yesterday, and keen to reawaken debate on a planet´s definition.

"In a sense, this is not unexpected news at all," said the astronomer-in-chief of the Anglo-Australian Observatory at Siding Spring, Professor Fred Watson.

"Certainly, I would not headline this as the 10th planet. I would consider it as perhaps the largest of the known Kuiper Belt objects"

[link to www.theage.com.au]
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2005/07/30/1122144059150.html?oneclick=true


Within the galaxy, there are many kinds of "Advanced Celestial Beings" who do not want the Draconians, the Greys, the Reptilian Hybrids and the Satanists on this planet to create any type of "Galactic Empire", and therefore this Solar System is under some kind of "Martial Quarantine".

The "Kuiper Belt Aliens", certainly are in this Solar System, and here are some brilliant weblinks that have some great and interesting information about some of their "Etheric Technology":

The Cymatics Of The Saturn Hexagon At The Saturnian South Pole:

[link to www.youtube.com]

Alien Speech Found In The NASA Saturn Ring Radio Signal:

[link to www.youtube.com]

The Celestial Object Known As 2003 EL61:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

More Information About The Strange Kuipers Belt Objects (KBO) Known As EL61:

[link to www.daviddarling.info]

Here Is A Good Weblink About The Mysterious Kuipers Asteroid Belt:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

This Weblink Has Excellent Information About The Kuipers Belt Objects (KBO) Such As Orcus, Quaoar, Ixion And Varuna:

[link to www.windows.ucar.edu]

This Weblink Is About The Extraterrestrial Saturn Hexagon And The Mystical Meaning Of It:

[link to www.youtube.com]

Richard C. Hoagland Talking About The Hyperdimensional Saturn Hexagon Part 1:

[link to www.youtube.com]

Richard C. Hoagland Talking About The
Hyperdimensional Saturn Hexagon Part 2:

[link to www.youtube.com]

Richard C. Hoagland Talking About The
Hyperdimensional Saturn Hexagon Part 3:

[link to www.youtube.com]

Richard C. Hoagland Talking About The
Hyperdimensional Saturn Hexagon Part 4:

[link to www.youtube.com]

A Great Composite Of Some Excellent CGI Of The Planet Saturn And The Saturn Hexagon:

[link to www.youtube.com]

Passport To Pluto 1:

[link to www.youtube.com]

Passport To Pluto 2

[link to www.youtube.com]

17P Comet Holmes was created energetically and electromagnetically by "adapting" the actual "comet" itself, by the Kuiper Belt Aliens (KBA). Also the "asteroids" known as TU24 and BE15 were both electromagnetically and energetically changed by the KBA because if an "Alien Invasion" within the Solar System is going to happen, then "asteroids" would be utilized by the KBA.

Thread: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'

Thread: There's more to Comet Holmes than we've been led to believe.

The many millions of "Celestial Objects" the Kuiper Belt Aliens have utilized and brought into the Solar System, all were created with "Etheric Technology" and such technical and scientific abilities are hundreds of thousands of years more advanced than on Planet Earth.

[link to m-hokuto.at.webry.info]

[link to www.spaceweather.com]

[link to space.newscientist.com]

[link to www.popastro.com]

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Thread: NEW ASTEROID 2008 BE15 COULD HIT IN 5 DAYS

EL61 is an "Artificial Celestial Object" (ACO) that has a very unusual "orbit" and is an "Ovaloid Space Station" of some type that was created by the Kuiper Belt Aliens, who have the majority of their "Space Ships" in the Kuipers Asteroid Belt and the Great Oort Cloud:

[link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov]

[link to www.solstation.com]

So the KBA created EL61 as some kind of "Space Station" to begin the process of Martial Quarantine in this Solar System. The KBA are part of the "Ancient Elders" of this galaxy as well as from beyond this galaxy, who want to electromagnetically and energetically completely alter the "Collective Consciousness" on Planet Earth because it has become to "dense" and the Galactic Communities want this planet liberated from TPTB as well:

[link to space.newscientist.com]

[link to www.space.com]

The UFO Casebook website has an excellent article about the Saturn Hexagon. The "Saturnian UFO Space Stations" appear to be hollowed out, artificially piloted "Celestial Objects":

[link to www.ufocasebook.com]

[link to www.ufocasebook.com]

The "Kuiper Belt Aliens" (Advanced ET Beings), that are according to many, to be some kind of "Galactic Alliance" of many "Star Nations" and "Celestial Elders", are in the Solar System and there is a lot of unusual "Celestial Objects" that many posters here at GLP have discussed and shown MPEG Files and JPEG Images on at this forum as well. Here are some good weblinks to other forums and websites that have information about the "Kuiper Belt Aliens" (KBA):

[link to www.hyperspacecafe.com]

Thread: ARE THE KUIPER BELT ALIENS AND 17P COMET HOLMES RELATED IN ANYWAY?

Thread: If the Aliens are in the Kuiper Belt...

[link to www.abovetopsecret.com]

[link to www.abovetopsecret.com]

[link to www.expansions.com]

[link to www.expansions.com]

So the Kuiper Belt Aliens (KBA) are definitely authentic "ET Alien Groups", and with the massive number of literally millions and millions of Kuiper Belt Objects (KBO) in the Outer Solar System, behaving outside the "Laws Of Astrophysics", it does also seem therefore that possibly the KBA are wanting to slowly develop some kind of "Alien Invasion" of this planet in the possible near future. Here is another two weblinks that have information about the KBA:

Thread: Why are insectoid aliens massing near kuiper belt?

Thread: All Available Information About The Kuiper Belt Aliens

There are apparently over "3,000,000" different kinds of "Celestial Objects" or "Space Ships" already in the Solar System, and the KBA want a massive and very positive change in the "Collective Consciousness" on Planet Earth, with the "neutralizing" of TPTB (Satanists), the NWO and the Draconian Reptilians and Greys as well.