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Giffords Brain Transplant Into 9 Year Old Clone

 
Plautus (OP)

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"Grafton remembers about five since she arrived at Carolinas Rehabilitation in 2007. None have returned to the work they did before they were injured.

Two have been particularly slow to recover. They know who they are and can recognize close family members, but they remain confused about dates and about other people in their lives.

'Where you are after a year is probably where you'll be,' Grafton said."

[link to www.charlotteobserver.com]
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"Traumatic brain injuries afflict more than 1.7 million people every year, but the odds of having a recovery like that of U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords’ are slim, according to reports by the CDC."

[link to www.hollandsentinel.com]
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What 'recovery'?

rolleyes
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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"Traumatic brain injuries afflict more than 1.7 million people every year, but the odds of having a recovery like that of U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords’ are slim, according to reports by the CDC."

[link to www.hollandsentinel.com]
 Quoting: Plautus


What 'recovery'?
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You tell me, numbnuts.
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"Traumatic brain injuries afflict more than 1.7 million people every year, but the odds of having a recovery like that of U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords’ are slim, according to reports by the CDC."

[link to www.hollandsentinel.com]
 Quoting: Plautus


What 'recovery'?
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


You tell me, numbnuts.
 Quoting: Plautus


You're the one that posted it, Scrote...

flip
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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I didn't make it up.

If you want to find out for yourself, truck on over to the White House or Area 51 and demand that they let you go down into the underground facility.

They might just let you in.

But I doubt they let you out.
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The rest of your post proves you did make it up...

lmao
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Well?
Free your mind and the rest will follow.

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God...Romans 12:2

BE the change you wish to see in the world.
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I didn't make it up.

If you want to find out for yourself, truck on over to the White House or Area 51 and demand that they let you go down into the underground facility.

They might just let you in.

But I doubt they let you out.
 Quoting: domesticangel


The rest of your post proves you did make it up...

lmao
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Well?
 Quoting: domesticangel


Well what?

Can't follow the fantasies you wrote?

I'm not surprised...
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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I didn't make it up.

If you want to find out for yourself, truck on over to the White House or Area 51 and demand that they let you go down into the underground facility.

They might just let you in.

But I doubt they let you out.
 Quoting: domesticangel


The rest of your post proves you did make it up...

lmao
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines



Well?
 Quoting: domesticangel


Well what?

Can't follow the fantasies you wrote?

I'm not surprised...
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines



I asked you in another post, you missed it.

I asked "How so?" How does the rest of my post prove I made it up?
Free your mind and the rest will follow.

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God...Romans 12:2

BE the change you wish to see in the world.
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"Traumatic brain injuries afflict more than 1.7 million people every year, but the odds of having a recovery like that of U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords’ are slim, according to reports by the CDC."

[link to www.hollandsentinel.com]
 Quoting: Plautus


What 'recovery'?
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


You tell me, numbnuts.
 Quoting: Plautus


You're the one that posted it, Scrote...
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


I didn't write it, ask the author, dumbfuck. Or better yet just go hang yourself, you're wasting my oxygen.
Plautus (OP)

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"And what about the six people who did not survive, including a 76-year-old pastor and a 9-year-old girl who had just come from receiving her first holy communion? Did the prayers of the public somehow overlook them?"

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"Posted: Saturday, January 8, 2011 7:35 pm

Christina-Taylor Green, the 9-year-old who was shot at the event and later died at a hospital, had just received her first Holy Communion at St. Odilia’s Catholic Church on Tucson’s northwest wide, Catholic Diocese of Tucson officials said."

[link to azstarnet.com]

Eight hours later and the Tucson catholic diocese is already pushing this "holy communion" bullshit? Does the catholic church always inform the media when a catholic is killed and when they last (first?) had "holy communion"?

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"More than two hundred parishioners gathered Sunday at the St. Odilia Catholic Church in Tuscon for a mass remembering Christina Taylor Green, the 9-year old victim of the Safeway shooting, whose patriotism and passion is being commemorated across the nation.

Miss Green attended the church, a modern building in an affluent part of Tucson, set against the dramatic backdrop of the Santa Catalina Mountains, for four years; she was part of the “Joyful Noise Choir” and last year she took her First Communion here, less than a mile away from the parking lot where she was felled. “I heard the shots,” said Father Richard Troutman, the parish’s pastor. “I had no idea what it was.”

Raul Gonzalez, a church member in attendance, said he didn’t know the Green family, but her death struck close to home. When his family saw her picture in the news, he says he told himself: “I’d hate to think it was one of our kids. And sure enough, it was.”"

[link to blogs.wsj.com]

Very peculiar this guy Gonzalez doesn't know this Green girl, presumably everyone in the church would know about the "9/11 girl" who was the "only girl" in the little league baseball team. I guess it slipped under his radar. Is there ANYONE who claims to know this girl besides her family and Hileham?
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"AMANPOUR: We thank the congregation of St Odilia for hosting us... It is the home parish to two of those lost in the shooting. 9 Year old Christina Taylor Green had her first communion here...and Judge John Roll grew up in the parish as well."

[link to abcnews.go.com]
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"Teresa Bier, Christina's religious teacher of four years, knew her best.

'Very gentle girl,' she said. 'She was happy always smiling a beautiful very beautiful little girl and always sincere about everything she did. Oh, she was fun and had fun with her friends and so on.'"

[link to www.kgun9.com]

Wow, how revealing, and this from the person who "knew her best", a "religious teacher".
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"St. Odilia Parish, just a few blocks away from the scene of Saturday's shootings, is the parish of the family of Christina Taylor Green, who made her First Communion at the parish last spring. She was a member of the parish children's choir.

St. Odilia Parish is in the Pima North Vicariate, a geographic area of Tucson parishes that also includes St. Thomas the Apostle Parish, the parish of Judge John Roll and his family.

Judge Roll served at St. Thomas the Apostle as a lector."

[link to www.kgun9.com]
Plautus (OP)

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I found some online facial recognition software and decided to test a few things out. First I checked two picture of Louhgner:

[link to demo.pittpatt.com]

The match is "-1.5". not sure exactly what that means, but two pictures of Loughner produced that number using this software.

I then submitted a picture of young Christina Green and young Gabrielle Giffords:

[link to demo.pittpatt.com]

The same result. -1.5

I presume this number has something to do with the confidence of the match. Could be a coincidence. Could be lousy recognition software.

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Interesting read, cheers.Glpers have become too lax minded.Thinking outside the box is how great minds are born.
THey have been cloning for along time,THey always leave clues for Us to pick up.Think about the endless possibilities for this tech,and how the SOcalled first USe of it was to clone a sHEep?Get it??
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very interesting indeedbump
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"Kelly's decision to take a risky rocket ride so early in her recovery may seem startling.

But those who know the couple, as well as doctors and rehabilitation experts, say it's a personal choice. And for this modern, high-powered couple, not an extreme one."

[link to www.mb.com.ph]

Her astronaut husband is apparently going to go through with this "final Endeavor" flight, despite the circumstances. What a truly dedicated individual. If only we had a million more just like him. Maybe we will some day, but I doubt if any of us will be around to see it, we'll all be mulch by then.
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The brain isn't a solid mass. actually it's alot like jello. Lets couple that with the massive undertaking of nerve transplantation... while it's still attached to the brain steam, Vessel re-anastomosis, reattaching bone ... the surgery on it's own merit is impossible. She would die from the wait, if not she would surely die for post surgical infections and swelling.

Brain swaps are not feasible with todays tools.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1078715

why on earth not, they were transplanting heads and are only now announcing they can regrow (fuse) nerve using stem cell therapy.

"black" medical research (as with black military tech) being unconstrained by ethical questions will be at least 10-20 years ahead of known developments.
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The brain isn't a solid mass. actually it's alot like jello. Lets couple that with the massive undertaking of nerve transplantation... while it's still attached to the brain steam, Vessel re-anastomosis, reattaching bone ... the surgery on it's own merit is impossible. She would die from the wait, if not she would surely die for post surgical infections and swelling.

Brain swaps are not feasible with todays tools.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1078715

why on earth not, they were transplanting heads and are only now announcing they can regrow (fuse) nerve using stem cell therapy.

"black" medical research (as with black military tech) being unconstrained by ethical questions will be at least 10-20 years ahead of known developments.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1104102

What kind things do you think they can do
"A dreamer is one who can only find his way by moonlight, and his punishment is that he sees the dawn before the rest of the world." --Oscar Wilde
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The brain isn't a solid mass. actually it's alot like jello. Lets couple that with the massive undertaking of nerve transplantation... while it's still attached to the brain steam, Vessel re-anastomosis, reattaching bone ... the surgery on it's own merit is impossible. She would die from the wait, if not she would surely die for post surgical infections and swelling.

Brain swaps are not feasible with todays tools.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1078715

why on earth not, they were transplanting heads and are only now announcing they can regrow (fuse) nerve using stem cell therapy.

"black" medical research (as with black military tech) being unconstrained by ethical questions will be at least 10-20 years ahead of known developments.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1104102

What kind things do you think they can do
 Quoting: Keyboard Warrior



They've been cloning since the 30's. They have the technology to do whatever they wish.
Free your mind and the rest will follow.

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God...Romans 12:2

BE the change you wish to see in the world.
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Interesting thread OP! I think you could be onto something too. Your idea is not that far-fetched and people have to be used as studies sooner or later.

One thing that has bothered me about all the facts I've read is this:

Did the bullet enter her forehead or the back of her head? I keep reading both!!

Unusual symbols too... The little girl had the words "Justice" on her shirt and "Truth" on her jacket" is this correct? Also her being born on 9-11 is odd.

Good luck with your studies and astute observations OP!
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Interesting thread OP! I think you could be onto something too. Your idea is not that far-fetched and people have to be used as studies sooner or later.

One thing that has bothered me about all the facts I've read is this:

Did the bullet enter her forehead or the back of her head? I keep reading both!!

Unusual symbols too... The little girl had the words "Justice" on her shirt and "Truth" on her jacket" is this correct? Also her being born on 9-11 is odd.

Good luck with your studies and astute observations OP!
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So far as I know the story is the bullet entered her forehead and exited the back of her skull. Dr. Rayle on the scene stated he saw an "entrance wound" but no exit wound, which would have been much larger. Hernandez stated he wrapped his jacket around her head and applied pressure (wrong move for a fractured skull) after checking two or three corpses for pulses. Witnesses describe seeing CPR on Green (again, wrong move, CPR is last resort in a gunshot wound and she was reportedly still alive and died in the hospital). As to what was on her shirt/sweatshirt/whatever, I've read statements from Hileman that it said "Justice" ("bedazzled").
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stupthrd

You're so full of shit your eyes are brown!
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You're so full of shit your eyes are brown!
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Fellate me.
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I just found this bizarre comment in another forum:

"Date: January 13th, 2011 4:16 PM
Author: Relatively New Poaster (-recognition +potential)

[link to www.nytimes.com]

Date: January 13th, 2011 4:47 PM
Author: Relatively New Poaster (-recognition +potential)

Gifford clone now able to keep eyes open for ~15 minutes at a time. Has also figured out how to move arms and legs."

[link to www.xoxohth.com]
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"Want To Clone Your Cat?

September 8, 2004 3:11 PM

A California company claims it is ready to step up and clone your dearly departed pet. Cat clones go for $50,000. Dogs cost more."

[link to www.cbsnews.com]
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"A third type of cloning called replacement cloning is a theoretical possibility, and would be a combination of therapeutic and reproductive cloning. Replacement cloning would entail the replacement of an extensively damaged, failed, or failing body through cloning followed by whole or partial brain transplant."

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"However, the sense of personal identity is held in the higher brain alone, which opens up the possibility of a partial brain transplant in which Ron remains Ron, but in which he could be shorn of that troubling perfectionist streak. Remarkably, such partial brain transplants seem to be possible in principle, having been successfully performed upon mice. Dr. Dorothy T. Krieger, chief of endocrinology at Mount Sinai Medical Center in New York City, performed such experiments as far ago as 1982, taking a small piece from one brain, and dropping it into a cavity in another brain. In these experiments, the donated brain cells began to grow in the cavity, sending out nerve fibres which spontaneously connected up in the right way with the rest of the brain."

[link to mccabism.blogspot.com]
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On remotely controlling the donor body:

"It is impossible to engage in willed action without the thalamus communicating with the relevant part of the motor cortex in the cerebrum, and whilst the relevant part of the motor cortex can be directly stimulated to produce action, doing so will yield action without a corresponding desire to perform that action."

[link to mccabism.blogspot.com]

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