~~~BREAKING.2 States calling for CON CON~~~~

thanks for speaking up

All politicians and judges took an oath to uphold the US Constitution. If they fail in their duties sworn to the American people, they must leave office.

Don't get your panties in a bunch over any MSM BS about repealing our Constitution. That's what they want.

~ EDIT: ADDING: I agree, it would be a start!! =)

Last Edited by BloodRed on 01/23/2011 02:46 PM

Self esteem issues?


Thanks Red !

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Speak for yourself...


The 13th is irrelevant..

The 14th is unconstitutional...


In both cases...

If "all men are created equal"...

How is a 2nd class of citizen (US federal citizenship) Constitutional?


What's more...

If "all men are created equal"..

What relevance does an amendment that says "no involuntary slavery" have... since this is an obvious violation of the original intent?

Doesn't "all men are created equal" cover it?

you can still CONTRACT into slavery... How do you think you became a SU citizen and not one of We the People?

You contracted your rights away !






P.S. manipulating quotes manually is a bit of a challenge after the adjustments.. 'scuse the mess...

Correction:

All Amendments, from the 13th amendment, forward, were passed by Corporate (defacto) US... *NOT the dejure US.

dont worry grendelmort---no one's gonna take any penis externsions away

A new Con would legitimize a NWO. It would allow for it and signify its beginning. Not a good idea.

"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." - Henry David Thoreau

i called it - the day we pinned that they were reading the constitution on tv. fuckin bastards!! if they impose a con con - say goodnight gracie.

Last Edited by Phennommennonn on 01/23/2011 03:46 PM

Needs to be done...

johntitor.com

nuff said.

+1000 Careful what you wish for.

I think those proposed amendments, which are very good, are an add on to the original amendments, rather than a replacement.

If y'all aren't careful and as it sits today you could end up with a corporation like Goldman Sachs as your president..

Correctamondo !


Forever the Student (trying a new acct)

VERY BAD IDEA...a Con-Con would destroy this country. Better know what it means!

The first 'Con-Con' was held in an effort to address short-comings in the Articles of Confederation....delegates to the Con Con threw out the old document in its entirety and tried to replace it with the US Constitution.

Guess what, it was NOT ratified; hence, the proposed Bill of Rights was appended and thereafter the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights was adopted.

One might propose...'what's the big deal?'...and a very shallow observation that would be! Who picks the delegates to this supposed 'Con-Con'? NOT YOU AND I! POS's like Pelosi and Reid and the Chicago Mob would annoint their lackeys to 'propose ratification' of a new and complete document...ERGO: No more Bill of Rights.

Also, the number for calling for a Con-Con is two short...did you realize that there is NO provision for states to withdraw an earlier request for a 'Con-Con' (which were made historically when they were far more conservative in their motive and desire to fascilitate drafting of necessary amendments)...so what happens when the TN delegation says: "We withdraw our request for a 'Con-Con'", is it binding?

What happens when the retreads from the DNC who become 'Con-Con' lackey delegates for Soros, et al, say to 70 million (that is 70,000,000) American citizens that the 2nd Amendment has now been declared null and void, along with Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Religion, Freedom of the Press (no more GLP!) because those prior 'rights' were too abused and abusive towards the 'public good' (whatever in the hell that means)...thusly we, who know better than thou, have ordained that all that stuff is stale, counter-productive, and unnecessary in our new world order...

Better know what you are asking for before you accept the consequences of a foolish choice!

NO CON-CON...because Madison will not be around to author the document. And the great "O'fuckus-All" is no Jefferson. And Pelosi cann't stitch a seam to Betsey Ross.

NO Con-Con.

I'm retracting my vote for a Con Con. I was hasty in making my decision and failed to look into the deeper ramifications of this.

The person who said that "they can not be trusted" is spot on. I don't agree with some of the Amendments (mainly 17) but the possibilities for them to screw us completely by negating the Bill of Rights is too great.

I was wrong, and I admit it.

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Yes, that is a divine set of words...all out of the Preamble to the Declaration of Independence...GUESS WHAT, it is not binding authority in a Court of Law...what is binding however is this: A CON-CON can legally dispose of ALL EARLIER DOCUMENTS and adopt a completely different template...imagine you were playing chess and the loosers declared 'Con-Con' and now the rules are the same as 'Tiddly Winks'...game over.

NO CON-CON!

I will agree that the Declaration of Independence is imutable in it's message...but get the message it conveys, don't contort it!

A Con-Con would field dress the Republic. Our lives would become a waking nightmare.

I have been told by multiple teachers / attorneys that the "Declaration of Independence" has been incorporated into US code... giving it standing in court !

Having said that...

I have looked for it, or a reference to it, and, as yet, have been unable to verify...

this is the point of the documentary the Corporation:

[link to www.youtube.com]

That the government accepts money from corporations leads to donations for favors and favors for donations at the expense of the general public by tilting the free market (which it becomes not) in favor of the donors.

The result is that competition is restricted leading to higher prices and lower quality products as the public's dollars that normally vote for the best product/price combination takes a back seat to those in control of the market.

With a REAL capitalist free market, the corporations would have to deal with market forces generated by the consumers rather than government that bails out those chosen to fail by consumers.

It's LONG Past time to sever the illegal tie between corporations and government!!!

And yes, it's also time to reaffirm the power of the states as intended by our founders. Otherwise, there will be a tide of cecession.

nope... more Fraud...

This point has already been rebutted:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Thread: Corporations Are NOT Legal "Persons" ! ! !


If corporations illegal status was corrected...

all corporate lobbyists would be out of a job...


The game in Washington would be destroyed !

No ma'am.

Sovereign Immunity means that Obama could order your death and then claim he is exempt from prosecution under this legal doctrine. It means that Bush could claim immunity from prosecution for 9/11.

It pretty much means that the government can do any thing it wants and we are powerless regarding redress or justice. That is .... if you accept this insanity.

We executed Nazis after they claimed "Just following orders" which is a related principle.

+324,334,673

People are awaking to the 14th Amendment issue. I am afraid that if it hits a critical mass that people start to demand its removal that the adversary will install a whole new system that is worse.
The different factions in the movement had better start working together so that this does not take place. From what I see too many people still have the “Let the King Take Care of It” mentality.

More on the Danger of a Constitutional Convention

A constitutional convention or a constitutional amendment are really bad things to support at this point in time. Alan Cranston was always waiting for a chance to get one of the communist world government constitutions enacted via a constitutional convention. He even told that it would be the method necessary to get a world government constitution passed. I believe his statement is in Senate Doc. 87. He wasn't the only one who agreed that it was their only chance to move us out of and away from the 1789 Constitution and Bill of Rights. Cranston had a lot of followers. They were taught the value of such a maneuver to their communist conquest, and have used every excuse in the world to coax us into development of a constitutional convention. First, comes a constitutional "amendment" to soften up the playing field, then switching it over into a constitutional "convention".

The people behind this maneuver are playing on the ignorance of the general public who does not know all the pitfalls, nor the evil intentions of those who are unscrupulous. The enemies of our country greatly desire to open up a constitutional convention as it permits the opening up of the heart of the 1789 Constitution and the Bill of Rights! When this happens, the possibility of bringing in a different constitution to replace the 1789 Constitution and the Bill of Rights exists! They are aware of the rules. They want to replace our rightful 1789 Constitution and our Bill of Rights with one of the communist constitutions they have prepared. Attendees at a constitutional convention cannot be limited as to what they can do. They can even hold the convention in secrecy, behind locked doors to keep the public out.


Globalists will go to great lengths to convert a constitutional "amendment" into a constitutional "convention"! It is just a short step to do so, once all the work of writing out an "amendment" is finalized, and the acquiring number of states necessary to qualify it, has been met.

The members attending a constitutional “convention” do not have to stay with that amendment once they have pulled it under a "convention" procedure. Chief Justice Warren Burger stated that the attendees to the convention cannot be limited as to what they decide to do! The innocent public does not realize these facts.

First. The timing for such a movement is 1000% wrong. Are you aware of what is happening under Obama? Our government is now allowing Chinese communists to enter and dwell on our American soil. They are being allowed to set up communist businesses in the United States, run entirely by communist Chinese! We are providing the land. The United States is peppered throughout - all 50 states - with what they call "Foreign

Trade Zones".

For instance, take Boise, Idaho for example. 10,000 - 30,000 acres are being given to the Chinese communists in that area to do business at that site. The designated area will be considered to be "foreign soil". Only communist Chinese will work there. Vicky Davis, who reports on this situation, says they will be allowed to bring in military equipment. I will forward some articles we have been getting from those who are front runners in this discovery. Jane Lesko, one of the foremost people reporting on this situation, has written a number of articles on these “Foreign Trade Zones”. If you intend to download from the Internet the whole list of officially designated Foreign Trade Zones that are being set up all over the United States, be prepared to receive about 40 pages in order to list them all. The United States is peppered with these Chinese communist enclaves. The area they occupy is to be considered foreign soil. Is it safe? What do you think? Why can't the Chinese communists stay working in their own homeland? Who knows what the real reason is behind interweaving the United States with communist China on an economic basis? Is it collateral for the debts we owe them? Will they end up permanently owning the land they acquire now? Are they here for purely economic reasons or could they be soldiers who one day will take off their aprons and put on their soldiers uniforms, (like in the Trojan Horse)? Or are they here to put down any controversy if the world switches to the Chinese dollar? Or if Obama needs help when he signs the Small Arms Treaty and demands that everyone turn in their privately-owned arms? These are the questions that need answering. Surely, someone has to answer for this! We should be concentrating on getting these communist groups out of here, not setting up a procedure by which they can ultimately take us over!

It is unspeakably unwise and dreadfully dangerous to watch this situation inch along so that, with just a little twist put into it, it can be re-arranged and revised to be a “constitutional convention” procedure, which will allow them the option of collapsing the 1789 Constitution and the Bill of Rights, terminating them forever! God forbid! The timing for the ideas listed in the current proposal now circulating and calling for a constitutional “amendment” is the WRONG TIMING!!!

We have the wrong people running our government now. The proposal for the constitutional “amendment” currently underway is too late, and is so far down on the list of ‘things that we should do’ – that it would be crazy to succumb to the world government promoters’ tricks. They won’t miss an opportunity to switch a constitutional “amendment” into a "convention". A constitutional "convention" will undoubtedly and inevitably subject us to a hazard that will be instantly fatal! Keep remembering that a “convention” cannot be limited and you cannot sue them for working in secret!

Anything can happen! WHY TAKE THE FOOLISH RISK?

Second. What we really need is a National Investigation and Assessment - a true State of the Union disclosure. We have three (at least) major things to complain about as a beginning, which are central and outrageous conditions:

(1) The General and Complete Disarmament Law - signed into law by Kennedy in 1961 (Public Law 87-297) requiring us to give up our guns and give up our total national armed forces (on a permanent basis) to the communists running the United Nations;

(2) The Homeland Security Department which has converted our government system from a republic into requirements necessary for operation of a dictatorship. (We have been revamped so that we are now in accord with military concepts for operation under a world communist system);

(3) Foreign Trade Zones (Trojan horse-like), that allow communists to live inside of our national borders, while at the same time, open and unguarded national borders allow druggies and criminals to enter and destroy our moral fiber.

These three outrageous conditions alone could wipe out the integrity and existence of our proper government. The proposal for a National Investigation and Assessment does not call for a constitutional “convention”. Nor does it call for a constitutional “amendment”. (We have existing laws on sedition!) The right thing to do is to broaden public awareness of what “change” has done to our republic and the threat these "changes" still hold to fully destroy our true heritage: our Constitution and the Bill of Rights! The media does not report the necessary facts. There can be no hope until we get the public media to report on these facts to the people.